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> <channel><title>Comments on: Pinnacle Armor Claims Forgery in Fight</title> <atom:link href="http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/</link> <description>Online Defense and Acquisition Journal</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:05:17 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Greg C</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-15854</link> <dc:creator>Greg C</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:19:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-15854</guid> <description>So Pinnacle Armor is no longer around, I  can&#039;t get on their site and from what said they closed April of this year, if I wanted to get my hands on one of these vests how would I go about it? Or is there no way to them anymore? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Pinnacle Armor is no longer around, I  can’t get on their site and from what said they closed April of this year, if I wanted to get my hands on one of these vests how would I go about it? Or is there no way to them anymore?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Justin Wesley</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-13133</link> <dc:creator>Justin Wesley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:05:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-13133</guid> <description>I&#039;m currently on my second deployment to Iraq and I have seen our current vest barely stop one bullet, shit you drop the damn thing and it might crack.  I&#039;ll take something that stood up to 10 rounds or whatever the dragonskin took and take my chances on a failure.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m currently on my second deployment to Iraq and I have seen our current vest barely stop one bullet, shit you drop the damn thing and it might crack.  I’ll take something that stood up to 10 rounds or whatever the dragonskin took and take my chances on a failure.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-9218</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:27:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-9218</guid> <description>So is Pinnacle armor still a company? or have they closed their doors?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is Pinnacle armor still a company? or have they closed their doors?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joe Auger</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8722</link> <dc:creator>Joe Auger</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:52:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-8722</guid> <description>I order a set back in August 08 while I was working in A-stan, requested refund due to lack of delivery in October and had back and forth e-mails until Pinnacle Armor closure, somewhere in April 09, directly from Murray Neil. Every week or 2, the guy would say that refund was on its way. Never happened. After this experience and losing 6,200$, I wouldn&#039;t be surprise it was all smoke and mirror.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I order a set back in August 08 while I was working in A-stan, requested refund due to lack of delivery in October and had back and forth e-mails until Pinnacle Armor closure, somewhere in April 09, directly from Murray Neil. Every week or 2, the guy would say that refund was on its way. Never happened. After this experience and losing 6,200$, I wouldn’t be surprise it was all smoke and mirror.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: William Snyder</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8698</link> <dc:creator>William Snyder</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:46:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-8698</guid> <description>Their site is like gone but I have other company contact info and will try that. For those who care.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their site is like gone but I have other company contact info and will try that. For those who care.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: William Snyder</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8696</link> <dc:creator>William Snyder</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:40:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-8696</guid> <description>I fully agree they should say screw you the the military and open up sales to civillians if the military won&#039;t buy. They would generate a TON of revenue and I woudld me one of the 1st to buy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree they should say screw you the the military and open up sales to civillians if the military won’t buy. They would generate a TON of revenue and I woudld me one of the 1st to buy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DensityDuck</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8691</link> <dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:09:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-8691</guid> <description>Matt: just make one yourself, go to Wal-Mart and buy a set of dinner plates plus a plastic sack!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt: just make one yourself, go to Wal-Mart and buy a set of dinner plates plus a plastic sack!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: scott fredrics</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8689</link> <dc:creator>scott fredrics</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 13:26:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-8689</guid> <description>I also have been looking for this .I even have gone to the trade shows to purchase but have come up empty.Whats going on .We need the truth to save lives so lets have it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have been looking for this .I even have gone to the trade shows to purchase but have come up empty.Whats going on .We need the truth to save lives so lets have it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8485</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:03:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-8485</guid> <description>i noticed that also about their website Ralph, i wanted to order some of it myself, if they would put up a simple site and offer a decent rate to civilians i am certain they would continue to generate revenue!CMON PINNACLE ARMS!! WE WANT YOU BACK!lol i would buy one right away!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i noticed that also about their website Ralph, i wanted to order some of it myself, if they would put up a simple site and offer a decent rate to civilians i am certain they would continue to generate revenue!</p><p>CMON PINNACLE ARMS!! WE WANT YOU BACK!</p><p>lol i would buy one right away!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ralph</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-8036</link> <dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 04:29:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-8036</guid> <description>Whats going on with Pinnacle their website has been down for weeks, are they going bankrupt?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats going on with Pinnacle their website has been down for weeks, are they going bankrupt?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dragon pro</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-4552</link> <dc:creator>dragon pro</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:34:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-4552</guid> <description>When the inventor of the interseptor armor says that he thinks that dragonskin is better thats saying something. I have watched a video of a ballistics test for dragonskin and interseptor and the rounds that powderd the interseptor armor did not penatrate the dragon skin, and these were nasty round. I think you can still find the video on military.com.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the inventor of the interseptor armor says that he thinks that dragonskin is better thats saying something. I have watched a video of a ballistics test for dragonskin and interseptor and the rounds that powderd the interseptor armor did not penatrate the dragon skin, and these were nasty round. I think you can still find the video on military.com.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joe Wells</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-593</link> <dc:creator>Joe Wells</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:03:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-593</guid> <description>To my knowledge the Army has never released (or conducted?) similar multi-hit (&gt;10 hits)ballistic tests on their Interceptor vests similar to those that Pinnacle has repeatedly demonstrated on their DS vests. There also have been NUMEROUS perforation events in the level III interceptor vests for std 3-hit tests which the army does not like to acknowledge. Is this why they avoid a fair and unclassified comparison test with DS? A real Level IV comparison is also necessary to clarify this situation.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my knowledge the Army has never released (or conducted?) similar multi-hit (&gt;10 hits)ballistic tests on their Interceptor vests similar to those that Pinnacle has repeatedly demonstrated on their DS vests. There also have been NUMEROUS perforation events in the level III interceptor vests for std 3-hit tests which the army does not like to acknowledge. Is this why they avoid a fair and unclassified comparison test with DS? A real Level IV comparison is also necessary to clarify this situation.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tomas</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link> <dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:51:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-173</guid> <description>Why doesn&#039;t the test take place with dragon skin, and the current armor used next to it.  If it is any better the results would be there for all to see.  This current meathod is a complete waste of money.  Using the current logic, boxing match would be done on the stats of the boxers then a computer would declare the winner.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn’t the test take place with dragon skin, and the current armor used next to it.  If it is any better the results would be there for all to see.  This current meathod is a complete waste of money.  Using the current logic, boxing match would be done on the stats of the boxers then a computer would declare the winner.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: gary</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-170</link> <dc:creator>gary</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:44:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-170</guid> <description>We need to change procurement procedures completely!  The higher ups are not looking at what is best for the troops - they are looking to pad their retirement from the military in to extremely lucrative &quot;consultant&quot; jobs with whatever defense contractor pays the most!  Just look at the Beretta - can&#039;t stop a fly! How &#039;bout the m16 - a weapon so reliable it needs an assist lever built in! Stryker? VSTOL?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to change procurement procedures completely!  The higher ups are not looking at what is best for the troops — they are looking to pad their retirement from the military in to extremely lucrative “consultant” jobs with whatever defense contractor pays the most!  Just look at the Beretta — can’t stop a fly! How ’bout the m16 — a weapon so reliable it needs an assist lever built in! Stryker? VSTOL?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tyler</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link> <dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:02:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-169</guid> <description>I agree with jeff.  We need an unbiased testing procedure.  It would be a shame to give the troops less than the best, because someone wanted to make a few extra bucks.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with jeff.  We need an unbiased testing procedure.  It would be a shame to give the troops less than the best, because someone wanted to make a few extra bucks.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeff</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/07/02/pinnacle-armor-claims-forgery-in-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link> <dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:57:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=167#comment-127</guid> <description>Let&#039;s ignore the publicity and the allegations.
Reading what was sent here (documents and deposition transcripts) it seems safe to say the testers were not following fair testing protocols; using harsher standards for the dragon skin than is normal procedure. That alone shows that in the least dragon skin should get another test.Even up the standards retest and hopefully the govt. testing groups can correct their errors and we&#039;ll seee the truth.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s ignore the publicity and the allegations.<br
/> Reading what was sent here (documents and deposition transcripts) it seems safe to say the testers were not following fair testing protocols; using harsher standards for the dragon skin than is normal procedure. That alone shows that in the least dragon skin should get another test.</p><p>Even up the standards retest and hopefully the govt. testing groups can correct their errors and we’ll seee the truth.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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