??????????? Does that mean something in Boeing-ese???

OR refute those of others.

–I’ve never disagreed with anyone on here,except you, Once again catching you in a lie, just go away you keep making a fool of yourself

Oops forgaot to add…

Just love the liberal-like responce that calling someone what they are (EADS/KC-30 Kool-Aid drinker) &/or calling them on their half truths, misrepresentations & outright lies is an attack. LOL

–And that ladies & gentlemen is his typical childish comeback, would you expect anything less? I think not.

Just love the liberal-like responce that calling someone what they are (EADS/KC-30 Kool-Aid drinker) &/or calling them on their half truths, misrepresentations & outright lies is an attack. LOL

Read your own August 15th, 2008 at 3:45 pm post & explain how that is not patheric & childish.

–You post crap like this and you are calling me childish. Lol! Typical Boeing apologist attacking anyone who will not believe their little fairytale

Thanks for demonstrating just how patheric & childish you (& your fellow EADS/KC-30 Kool-Aid drinkers) are.

Actually, aside from the half-truths, misrepresentations of the truth & outright untruths of the Galloway article, it shows/hints at just how much the USAF was in bed with Boeing & the lengths at which it went to to get the KC-767AT it asked for ASAP.

It is also helpful to know something of the actual Inspector General Report which details the mistakes the USAF made.

D-2004–064 “Acquisition of the Boeing KC-767A Tanker Aircraft.”
http://www.dodig.osd.mil/Audit/reports/fy04/04064sum.htm
Report summary, pdf file of actual report is corrupt.

Statement of The Honorable Joseph E. Schmitz Inspector General Department of Defense before the Airland Subcommittee Senate Committee on Armed Services on “Air Force Acquisition Oversight”
http://www.dodig.osd.mil/fo/Testimony_DoDIG_4-14-05_Final11.pdf
While not the actual report itself it is what Inspector General Schmitz testified to Congress on the report.

An important timeline for those who happen to actually take the time to educate themselves (take particular note of the time gap between them)…

November 2002 — Druyun recuses herself from further negotiations with Boeing, retires mid-month & then accepts $250,000-a-year job with Boeing.

December 2003 — The USAF finalized negotiations with Boeing in December 2003 to lease 20 KC-767A tanker aircraft and procure 80 tanker aircraft.

November 2003 — Boeing fires Druyun (former USAF acquisitions officer) & Sears for unethical conduct in Druyun’s hiring.

October 2004 — Congress passes defense spending bill for fiscal 2005 that terminates Air Force’s authority to lease tanker aircraft.

“SecDef Gates is an idiot”

Pot calling the kettle black

http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,Galloway_033104,00.html

Shows just how much Boeing was in bed with the AF. Given all the events for the last half decade, it appears the honeymoon is over.

Corruption’s never good for a resume. That’s why the muckety-mucks keep shoving ethics down our throats. It’s hard to shake.

I’d like to be a fly on the wall for Boeing’s Saturday “discussions”. Would probably make some great press, but alas we’ll never get the truth.

The USAF got the KC-767 tanker lease taken away from them & was FORCED to have a competition even though “everyone” knew that the only other even realistically possible alternative (the A330MRTT was noncompetative. Plus it was shakled with higher than usual DOD oversight.

Yes the Druyun (USAF acquisition officer) & Sears (Boeing CFO) mess was cleaned up prior to 2004 yet the anti-Boeing/KC-767 crowd continue to falt Boeing for what Druyun (USAF acquisition officer) & Sears (Boeing CFO) did in 2003.

No, EADS/KC-30 Kool-Aid drinkers call the KC-767AT a paper frankentanker. Boeing calls in minor modification derivative of the KC-767 varients (built, flying & transfering fuel) for Italy & Japan. Counting the Italien & Japanese KC-767, Boeing has built six 767 airliner varients & two KC-767 varients, the KC-767AT/767-200LRF is/are just another varient.

SecDef Gates is an idiot, read the full GAO ruling & the later comments the GAO made related to its ruling.

http://www.merriam-webster.com

They will need to look up the definitions of dignity and respect, not something they run across very often in their corporate offices these days!

Today’s Non-Ethics Word: Boinginate
Pronunciation: \Bo-ing-i-nate\
Function: Verb
Etymology: North Western US & Boeing/Aeronovali/JADC Consortium
Date: 2008
Transitive verb
: to habitually lie, cheat, bribe or steal if you really, really want to win

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D92I8VS00.htm

“The protester got what it asked for, which was clarification of exactly what is required,” Northrop CEO Ronald Sugar said of Boeing in a phone interview Thursday. “There was no mystery to us as to what the requirements of the system were in the past.”

He hands it to them with dignity and respect

No, it is pointing out the blatant hipocracy of the anti-Boeing/KC-767 pro-EADS/KC-30 crowd when they fault Boeing while ignoring that EADS has the same faults.

–Oops, kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, but, seriously would you expect any less from Boeing?

What remains to be seen now is how possible/likely additional delays & cost overruns to various programs will effect EADS’s risk rating…

At any rate delays & cost overruns are a fact of life & are much more the norm rather than the exception. What should REALLY be looked at is how the contractor deals with the seemingly inevitable delays & cost overruns

Not punishable by time in prison.…next!

“Yes Druyun (USAF acquisition officer) & Sears (Boeing CFO) went to jail for illegally negotiating a job for Druyun while negotiating the tanker lease. And guess what Druyun retired in Nov 2002 & Boeing fired BOTH Druyun & Sears in Nov 2003. Everything that they had done had been undone/renegotiated before the contract was finally cancelled due to the mistakes the USAF made.”

Whew.…glad they got that mess cleaned up.

“What are you smoking? Boeing did not get lazy. It proposed a new KC-767 variant SPECIFICALLY TAILORED to the KC-X requirements.”

So that’s why they call it the paper frankentanker !?! I had heard that but did not understand.

Past performance was/is significant in this evaluation. What will Boeing pay in fines to the Italians and the Japanese?

“Don’t give me that BS that the GAO sustained less than 10% of Boeing’s protest items.”

The BS isn’t from me it’s from SecDef Gates who said: “The GAO sustained eight of the slightly more than 100 issues protested with this contract,” Oh…that’s right.…he’s a liar too. Er no…HIS fault! Uh…errrr….HE screwed up!!! Oh…sh!t. I’m just applying my advanced mathematics degree. And I was actually giving you more credit than you deserve.

“The GAO ruling was one of (if not THE) harshest ruling in its history. It is truly pathetic how EADS/KC-30 Kool-Aid drinkers attempt to minimized it.”

I read that somewhere…Yeah.…I think it was on…the Seattle PI. Please provide one credible source (Dicks, Cantwell, Murray, or Tiahrt are not credible by the way).

Pass the Kool-Aid. It’s hot down here in the bayou