A Little Bird For the Army?

A Little Bird For the Army?

News that DOD had chopped the Army’s Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter program sparked an interesting discussion in the comments section (both here and at sister site DefenseTech) about the reasons behind the cancellation, the larger issue of attack aviation in future wars and what the Army needs in any next-generation scout helicopter.

Readers agreed the ARH was killed due to a combination of “mission creep,” hanging everything possible on the Bell 407 civilian airframe so it could perform any and all combat missions. Poor program oversight at the PEO level that allowed per unit cost to climb more than $6 million was also clearly a factor. As the Pentagon’s chief weapons buyer, John Young, put it in a letter to Congress, the ARH management structure was “inadequate.” The Army’s plan to upgrade the Kiowa fleet, Young said, gives the military time to plan and execute a “disciplined” ARH replacement, and industry teams can recompete.

The ARH cancellation brought up the question of how attack aviation and current Army doctrine, which envisioned Apaches attacking deep against massed enemy armor formations, fits into the “contemporary operating environment” against a dispersed and adaptive enemy. In any discussion of that subject it’s evident that the Army still suffers a persistent hangover from the failed Apache deep attack operation near Karbala during the Iraq invasion in 2003.

The Army had amassed a massive fleet of Apaches in Kuwait prior to crossing the berm — 151 AH-64A/Ds — and there was enormous pressure from the service leadership to use them en masse, fitting the prevailing vision of deep battle. The 11th AHR night attack against the Republican Guard Medina division near Karbala was a total failure. No damage was done to the enemy division and every aircraft was hit by ground fire and one was shot down. A deep attack by the Apaches from the 101st a few days later fared little better, according to the Army’s official history On Point. Commanders quickly shifted the Apache mission to daylight reconnaissance and hovering “over the shoulder” of ground units that could protect them from ground fire.

One thing that struck me, from observations as an embedded reporter with the 3rd Infantry Division during the invasion, was the very different way 3–7 Cavalry used their Kiowas and the how the Apaches were employed by division and corps. During the drive to Baghdad, the Cav operated as a true combined arms mini-brigade, with an attached cannon battery and its own aviation element, the Kiowas. The Kiowas operated dispersed in pairs, in close coordination with troops on the ground, flying at tree top level, using buildings and terrain for cover.

Interestingly, the Apache units in OIF and OEF have since adopted the same tactics. I’ve been told that the Apaches are restricted to operating above friendly units, at least during daylight missions, because of ground fire danger. I also heard repeated complaints from soldiers in Iraq in 2005–2006 that the Apaches often refused to fly downrange against insurgents firing from constricted terrain.

As RAND analyst and outstanding military historian David Johnson points out in his book on the competing roles of airpower and ground power in the post war era, Learning Large Lessons, the Army developed the attack helicopter following the Korean war because Army officers doubted the Air Force’s commitment to providing close air support. The Army now has a thoroughly upgraded fleet of heavy attack helicopters, the Apache, that can perform the close air support mission. The Air Force has also done much over the past years to demonstrate their commitment to providing troops close air support.

The Army needs a replacement for the Kiowa. As Army operations director Lt. Gen. James Thurman put it, some sort of ARH remains a “critical requirement.” But do we need more of a recon bird that can also carry lots of guns and rockets or a smaller recon airframe that’s also really good at quick insertion of troops, particularly in urban areas? To Brig. Gen. Ed Cardon, veteran of multiple Iraq tours and now deputy commander at the Army’s general staff college (and a rising star in the service), the asset he could have used most as a brigade commander in Baghdad was about a dozen of the Boeing AH-6 Little Birds to do quick insertions and raids over his sprawling AO. Kinetic options he had; more troop lift was what he needed.

In his letter to Congress, Young said, “Recent feedback from operational theaters has emphasized the capability benefits of a small, highly maneuverable helicopter to complement the Apache attack helicopters.” After the rather public scolding Young delivered in his letter, it is highly doubtful Bell will be given another chance to deliver the next Army helicopter. He basically endorsed the Boeing Little Bird in his letter when he said “there is at least one alternative” that is equal to the Bell offering and at less cost. Given recent Pentagon acquisition history with trying to buy European, I’m pretty sure he’s not talking about the Eurocopter Tiger.

As a number of readers pointed out, between the Apaches and all of the new UAVs coming on line, the recon mission is being adequately filled. Perhaps a small lift bird better fits the bill.

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Not a bad article. A bit harsh on Army attack pilots. And for someone who said: “A deep attack by the Apaches from the 101st a few days later fared little better, according to the Army’s official history On Point,” Mr. Grant sure didn’t appear to have read the “101st Goes Deep” section in the middle of this webpage:

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Also, not sure but believe the Eurocopter is considerably more expensive than the ARH that was killed for cost. The Eurocopter LUH may be the alternative helicopter that could compete alongside the little bird in any future contest.

Not sure you would ever get regular Army Infantry standing on skids like the Rangers and other SOF might. Is that what you meant by “small lift bird?”

Hi Cole,

Thanks for the comments and your input on the ARH story earlier this week, which inspired me to write this piece! My comment on the 101st came from this section of On Point, “Army, Air Force, and Navy pilots destroyed six armored personnel carriers, four tanks, five trucks, and a fiber-optic facility. They also killed approximately 20 troops. Although not a high count by “exercise standards,” the attack marked an effective use of deep strike Army attack aviation against a highly adaptive enemy.”

In subsequent talks with 101st and other Army aviators, the general consensus was that fixed wing did the majority of the killing in that operation. Immediatly after, both 3ID and corps shifted the Apache mission to close support, operating directly above ground troops. Gen. Blount (CG 3ID) ordered the Apaches to stay west of the Euphrates, which caused at least one battalion commander some grief a few days later when trying to call in fire at Objective Peach.

I was surprised by Byron’s comment that the 160th Avn. dictates Army aviation doctrine. Is that true with attack aviation? I thought that was more of an outgrowth of AirLand Battle from the 80s.

My comment on the Eurocopter was more an assessment of the state of play with trying to buy European in today’s political environment, I’m just not sure that’s an option, at least not now with current domestic employment picture.

I agree with you on having a hard time seeing regular infantry on Little Bird outboard skids. But that was the airframe commanders (in Baghdad anyway) most wished they had, as it was able to manuever and land in areas too small for UH-60.

Good comments Greg. The 101st attack was far more of a joint and combined arms fight with more effective just-in-time JSEAD, air cover, and a deception plan. But that’s why it works…the ground aviation force causes the enemy to come out of hiding for joint airpower.

Spoke with a CW4 yesterday who was an 11th AH-64A guy not on the deep attack who got diverted to providing security and close combat attack for the 3rd ID afterwards. He talked about killing air defense guns hiding under trees (that the USAF could not see), taking out pick-up trucks firing machine guns at him next to a house (that the USAF could not see or take out without hitting the house, too), and supporting the armored battalion TF at Objective Peach.

Keep in mind that unlike the rides of a few complaining tanker-types, AH-64s don’t have all kinds of armor protection…but still give/gave it their best shot at low altitude for the guys on the ground. Recall that shooting over their shoulder is still shooting/seeing farther than they can shoot effectively.

Although I like to think I know a little about a lot, I’m far from an expert on anything, and rely on Google and external resources like everyone else.;) But I had to chuckle when Byron mentioned 160th SOAR was driving Army doctrine…since I coincidentally was one of many peons writing aviation doctrine back in 2002/03. As far as I know, no 160th doctrine was used. Doctrine is unclassified and those guys play in their own black world. Byron was also implying all kinds of secret squirrel stuff, and I didn’t/don’t want to go there.;)

You’re probably right about no Eurocopter LUH victor for a new ARH competition under Obama and a more Democratic Congress…but who else is out there to compete besides little bird? If you compete Tiger or a AH-1Z, you might as well buy more comparably priced Apaches (also Boeing like little bird) and create a version with combined conformal aux fuel tanks/weapons racks for greater endurance and lighter arming.

Just an opinion.

Hey guys, you’re missing the point with the scout helicopter and the role it fills. Kiowas work directly for ground commanders on the scene more often than not, are more maneuverable than remotes/uavs and can see more under most conditions. There isn’t a more flexible platform out there for directly supporting ground units. The recon mission is far from “adequately filled” without scout helicopters. Having light lift isn’t a bad idea, but you might as well be comparing apples to oranges when you start saying scouts should be replaced by light lift.

Given the fact that literally thousands of plain vanilla infantrymen learned to ride the skids of UH-1s in Viet Nam — and even leave the skids without the aircraft actually halting, I had to chuckle at the fallacy of “Rangers and other SOF” being the only folks that could do that.

Though in the modern risk averse Army misplaced ‘concern’ by Commanders might be an impediment…

The OH-6 was always legendary with the reported ability to roll like a ball in accidents. The rumor was always that Lady Bird Johnson supposedly had something to do with Bell, and that was why they ended up buying the OH-58. Not saying it was true but that was the Army rumor.

I think most folks thought the little bird would win the ARH competition. There must have been a legitimate reason why it did not and I sure hope we aren’t in for more of the same in cost creap.

BTW Ken, agree that in today’s safety environment, it is unlikely you would see troops carried around on fold-down platforms where you sit outside the aircraft. I can only imagine what the wind chill factor would be like on a cold night at 80 knots. Plus the MH-6J (or whatever it is now) that they use for that is different than the AH-6J and has a higher gross weight and may be stretched. Not sure.

Thanks for serving in Vietnam.

During my 2 years in Nam, we had all kinds of troops riding the skids. If you want a platform that will deliver a small unit, i.e., recon, than the little bird is the answer. In the era of doing more with less or with what we have on hand/shelf than utilizing the little bird within it’s mission parameters is a no brainer. And remember during Nam, cobras were used to pick-up troops. Nesscessity is the mother of invention and as Americans we are the best mothers around. UUUURRRRAAAAHHHH.

My first tour in vietnam the Army had and used a hughs OH-6 observation Helicopter . and it was fast and maneuverable. But by my second tour there was not a hughs OH-6 around. I often wondered why the Army quit using them. I had a fried that chased a v.c. around a tree,Around and around. until the v.c. got tired and gave up then my friend shot him.thats how fast that chopper was!!!.You can not do that with a kiowa (OH-54) if I remember correcly???. The story I heard was that the Hughs OH-6 was hard to hover(Stabilize) about 3 feet off the ground???.I think that that would be a great air frame for a hunter killer team.

IIRC, Hughes sold the intial OH6 as THE Light Observation Helicopter and then steeply jacked up the price for subsequent buys and that Army switched to the 58 instead of getting soaked.

Shame, really, the 6 was a tough bird and I pulled more than one pilot out of one that went down; with the 58, there wasn’t much left. Interesting that the OH6 might still win in the long run…

Check out this video:

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Still not sure the Army would approve of doing this with anyone other than Rangers and Delta types.

As a regular infantry grunt type, not an exalted SOF operator, I would personally jump at the idea of riding on the skids of a little bird. Gets the adrenaline going, plus you have the benefit of improved situational awareness. In Iraq we were doing operations on a daily basis that, back in the 90’s, would have been ranger territory. The army, and senior officer eggheads, need to give the regular infantryman some credit.

I served with F. Co. 1/160th from 88–92 as a helicopter mechanic on the AH/MH-6. There is no better scout helicopter than the AH/MH-6 for the Army. This a common fact. The AH/MH-6 is easier to maintain than a Bell 407, Bell OH-58, more capable, and more survivable in a crash than any Bell product. I’ve also worked as a civilian helicopter mechanic for the last 15 years as an A & P working on Bell 204,206, 407, Eurocopter BK-117, EC-135, and BO-105. The Boeing/MD product just works, and everyone in the “black world knows it”. Our fighting men of the entire Army deserve the best aircraft the taxpayers can provide, and the Night Stalkers history has proven what works in combat.

I read this article and what comes to mind is the Little Engine that Could. If spending is being cut pull together and make it work. Because as a nation that has what got through it all.

The Army should have never gotten rid of their AH-1 Cobras. They’re a lot smaller and narrower than the antiquated behemoth AH-64 Apache or the over-priced Commanche. The Marines still use their round-canopy Cobra’s on a daily basis for many different missions. The Army should’ve done the same. Don’t say I didn’t warn you, Cody.

Allons
AH-1 Cobra & OH-58A/C MTP/MTFE

So they are thinking about switching back to the little bird? And getting rid of the Kiowa? Sounds intresting.

I still don’t get the reason for using the H-6 platform. To me it is far too small. It can carry even less than the ARH. That just doesn’t make any sense. I mean, it has a purpose but not for general recon use.

I agree with Thunderhorse. We need something akin to the original AH-1. Single engine, 7.62mm minigun on a turret, one weapon station on each side. Perfect. Then you wouldn’t have to worry about chasing anyone around trees.

DC2

The Solution COTS: Tell your Federal Senators and Reps.!!!
A109M Light, Twin-Engine Multipurpose Helicopter
See:http://www.army-technology.com/projects/a109m/
“The A109M can carry out various missions and operations in hot temperatures and high altitudes.”

“Missions include observation and reconnaissance, armed escort, search and rescue, troop / cargo transport, casualty evacuation, liaison and training.”

“Denel is building the airframes as part of a license production agreement with AgustaWestland. Eight A109 Powers have been delivered for the US Coastguard’s HITRON (Helicopter Interdiction Tactical Squadron) programme. The helicopters are designated MH-68A.”

“There are three fuel systems configurations: three cells of 160 USgal (605l), four cells of 188 USgal (710l) and five cells of 230 USgal (870l). A crashworthy fuel system with closed circuit refuelling and self-sealing fuel tanks is optional.”

See:http://www.army-technology.com/projects/a109m/

The AH-1-Zulu (not to mention the Whiskey model) is an ok choice (Great for the Marines), no special forces insertion capability is a big strike against, Plus these birds have been twin engined for decades now, on par with Apache! And who wants a single engine vehicle in this type of service, that is unwise to say the least? The COTS solution is:
“US Coastguard’s designated MH-68A.” or
A109M (Power) Light, Twin-Engine Multipurpose Helicopter
See:http://www.army-technology.com/projects/a109m/

If the discussion is about “Little Birds”, and the article only mentions AH-64s, why show a picture of an AH-6? AH-6s are used by SOAR forces and not the entire US Army aviation corps.

OH-6 is a great aircraft but it lost the original competion far and square. Bell and gov srewed the deal equally. An interesting note on politics. IF OH-6 was selected for ARH recomp, Boeing would have 75–80 percent of the US Army fleet (less UH-60 and LUH). They are also prime for FCS. Wonder if that sort of politics would raise an eyebrow or two…

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