Raid Pentagon Spending Or Leverage It?

Raid Pentagon Spending Or Leverage It?

The debate about guns or butter hotted up last week, with Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) calling for an enormous decline in defense spending of 25 percent and the head of the House Appropriations defense subcommittee, Rep. John Murtha (D-Penn.) saying money for weapons will have to come from spending originally slated to fund substantial increases in Army personnel. Below defense consultant Robbin Laird weighs in on the likely impacts of the financial crisis on defense spending.

The impact of the global financial crisis on US defense spending will strike in two ways, directly and indirectly. The impact will be substantial in terms of the ripple effect of operations in Afghanistan and Iraq upon the recapitalization budget.

Why? Throughout the Bush years, defense recapitalization has been overtaken to a large extent by the cost of military operations, and the re-definition, in effect, of recapitalization in terms of reset of equipment being used directly in those operations. At the same time, the wear and tear of capital equipment upon a number of infrastructural support elements, ranging from Air Force tankers, Air Force lift, sealift and related equipment means growing pressure to modernize those forces as well.

The major direct impacts of the financial crisis on the budget are three-fold and all lead to an inevitable downturn in the top line for the capital budget.

First, the new administration will be elected to deal with the financial crisis, not to recapitalize defense forces. This means that public spending to support the financial institutions plus injections of public monies in a number of civil industries or infrastructure replacement will compete directly for defense capitalization dollars.

Second, the cost of money for the federal government will go up as various public sectors compete for money to borrow for re-capitalization. Given the dependence of the US public sector on overseas borrowing, and given the increased cost of that borrowing, the result will be significant pressure to reduce new equipment acquisition simply in terms of the unit costs going up in terms of the cost of capital.

Third, the perceived need for the new administration to “borrow” from the defense budget to pay for other public sectors will go up. Because the financial crisis is as much a political legitimization as an economic crisis, defense will not get a free political ride. It will lose its privileged position as an investment priority.

This does not mean that there will be a radical downturn in overall defense spending UNTIL substantial reductions are made in overseas deployments; but pressure will increase to take the POLITICAL decision to reduce those deployments, save operational cash and NOT to turn that money into defense capital investments, but rather into investments in other sectors or for servicing the public debt.

There are a number of secondary impacts as well upon the defense capitalization effort associated with the global financial crisis.

First, a number of US defense companies are hoping that exports can make up for downturns in the capital budget. This is unlikely given the global nature of the downturn.

Second, the spirit of domestic investment in the US and abroad will strengthen protectionist elements here and abroad. This means that the competition, which US companies will find in overseas markets, can become tougher than ever before.

Third, core US global export programs, such as the F-35, will be severely strained in this context. On the one hand, narrow emphasis on the operational requirements of Afghan and Iraqi operations can lead to a “current war” only focus; this would reduce the amount of capital available to support power projection forces, and within this context, the F-35 could appear to be an attractive cash cow for other DoD capital reset requirements.

Any serious slip in the US commitment to the timeline of buying its own F-35s will have severe consequences for the cost to partners. The attractiveness of alternative systems, especially those with more attractive economic content, such as the Gripen, will go up and some F-35 partners could well leave. This could create a vicious cycle within which partner drop out coupled with the US Defense Department seriously moving their own F-35 acquisitions to the right will lead to cost escalations. In turn, cost escalations generated by capital underinvestment will in turn accelerate.

Fourth, if there is a political conjunction of commitment to “current” war with a political priority on the financial crisis (interpreted in terms of public investment in non-defense as a priority), then US power projection forces – US Navy and US Air Force – will continue their rapid downward trend. Given that most US allies are significantly underinvesting in power projection systems as well and overall significant downgrading of the ability of Asian, European and American allies to deal with global challenges is inevitable.

A reverse trend could be possible; investment in defense industry could be offered as an intelligent use of public monies to generate growth and development. Investment in a major global export program like the F-35 is central to US and allied power projection and economically benefit the entire range of partners. Repeats of Georgian type events, or resource conflicts, or terrorist incidents are as likely as ever and will require a response.

In other words, a focus on defense recapitalization to protect Western interests could be seen to be central to deal with the financial as well as global challenges. This will require leadership but is not impossible to imagine. And it is unlikely that the world will wait while Europe and the US gets their act together in creating a new financial order. The financial crisis will have to be managed in conjunction with political, resource, security and military challenges and crises. If it is not, the hollowing out of the US power projection system will be a reality a decade out.

Robbin Laird is an international defense consultant who served on the National Security Council staff of both the Reagan and Carter administrations.

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It won’t take long, pelosi, reid and osama obama will take Our Second Amendment Rights away, pay reparations to increase Our National debt and screw everyone that employs people to where no jobs will be in America and all that will be left is welfare, inflation, no oil for gas because democrats won’t drill here and no money to buy inflated gas or inflated food because of inflation and then all we’ll have is a socialist/welfare Goverment, thats what democrats want, total control of America !

doughboy, you forgot them taking away our First Amendment and therefore we won’t be able to blog our disgust with them on websites like this!

doughboy - democrats running the country - ha kid yourself, it is the plutocrats that are running this country. Why else give $700B to Wall Street - look at the Fed Reserve, a quasi government office taking care of the rich. Besides, Wall Street firms will be giving their employees big time bonus’ - greed by big business to increase profits is why they have shipped the jobs overseas. Look at the profits the oil companies are posting and you will see the Governments hands all over their industry. The party of the poor or middle class, whatever is left, is the Democrats - it was Nixon who reinvented the Republican (Plurocrats) into the moral majority (Conservatives) Being in my 70s, I have seen the evolution!!

Send Barney Frank and Nancy plosi Packing with their Butt Buddies. We need defence spending to keep our part of the world free!!!.

The cuts in defense are coming. President Obama is not going to resist a congress led by the insane crew mentioned above. Reid should be added. Like Clinton they’ll take it recklessly and proclaim they’ve cut government spending or reduced the size of the federal government.

They are not likely to release impact analyses or advertise what this means in terms of perserving national security. These pols are talking about “taking” money from CEOs, bankers, Wall Street professionals, “the rich” and now defense programs to achieve fairness. It’s apparently more important to be fair than it is to be strong or prepared. Barney Frank says 25% more important. Now there’s a number?

We need strict accounting for this proposed redistribution along with return-on-investment analysis that will be viewable by every taxpayer on a regular basis. If we’re to be made weaker in one respect we have to understand how we’re stronger elsewhere and how that strength can be employed more effectively when needed.

I fully recognize the above is just fantasy. We will never know how the money is used. We will only know how little we have left after it’s taken from us. This is apparently what the majority of Americans want. Come next Jan, they’ll have it.

The problem is that people insist on thinking about this emotionally. Guns are scary. Stop buying guns because I don’t like being scared. But old people and beggars make me sad, so let’s give them lots of money because I don’t like feeling sad. Entitlement programs are triple the size of defense, but nobody thinks about it like that; we’ve been taught for thirty years that the heart is more important than the head.

densityduck,

i bet you are pretty happy that you have social security right now though huh? how’s your 401K package doing these days? and i bet you will be happy that you have medicare when you retire too. i’m tired of hearing people whine about entitlement programs, especially when they are going to be relying on them when they retire.

dsueii,

you’re right. clinton screwed everything up and bush fixed it all.

bottom line, we will be at least $1T in debt this year alone. That will put us $10T in debt overall. You ready to go more into debt to the Chinese and Saudis? because that is far more dangerous than even a 25% defense cut (not that i am for that either).

so we can continue to whine about liberals and conservatives and point the finger at each other. or we can move on and realize that sacrifices will need to be made by everyone before this gets any better.

or we can cancel the entitlement programs and use the additional money for defense spending. that way our military can be used domestically to quell the protests and demonstrations.

ahhh, the american way.

The 700B $$ bailout was to be expected, don’t you understand the “business of the United States, is business”, to paraphrase a long forgotten president.
The only thing that can save this nation is a second American Revolution. You have to ask your self this question, were the founding fathers right or wrong in there decisions to form this country.
But who will lead it? Who will take up the the fight, but more important, who will follow. We are complacent in our lives. And as an old soldier I do know one thing, complacency kills.

Jennings, I’m not going to retire another fifty years, if ever. Social Security and Medicare will be long gone by that point. And my 401K is doing just fine–with not a dime of government money in it, except in the sense that my employer sells them stuff so that’s where my salary comes from.

Density,

So the Dow has lost 4,000 points in 4 months and your 401K is doing fine. Government money would be in the form of T Bonds.

I wonder how much money your employer profits from the government. And I wonder if they make higher profits from the government than they do from the business world. Heck maybe you work for a company selling them $700 hammers.

Marshall,

I hope you aren’t the one leading the second revolution. After all, you can’t even use correct spelling or grammar. It’s ironic that as a soldier you were prepared to sacrifice your life for the government you now recommend overthrowing.

DC2

In a war, the only time the cost benefit equation works out is when you win it. The present “wars” in the mid east and Afghanistan are unwinnable as things now stand. The reasons are complex, and are more political than military.

It’s also time for European nations to get more serious about Afghanistan. We can not be the worlds policeman when the other nations are unwilling to significantly defray the cost in terms of treasure and lives.

Ho, ho, ho. I worked in the commercial side of this business and there was NO profit in it. Aerospace is a government-supported industry; the commercial business is a loss-making enterprise used mostly to keep engineers in the company instead of losing them to the competition.

Oh hey, it’s the “$700 hammer” canard. It’s not a $700 hammer; it’s a $5 hammer with $150 worth of qualification testing, $45 of compliance documentation, and $500 of oversight.

Density,

You said it yourself, you are sucking on the government teet of corporate welfare. Your company cannot make money on the commercial market so where does it turn?

Your $700 response is just as cliche as mine. But it proves two points, one made by each of us.

So tell me, how many millions of dollars has your company made off of Uncle Sam?

It’s no different than the welfare mom popping kids out to get a bigger check. Your company just wants a bigger piece of the defense pie so that it can suck a little more out of it.

Haliburton ring a bell?

DC2

Welcome aboard. I covered most of this in my military.com column, “Economic Chaos and the Military” posted on October 15, 2008.

Glad to see someone else looking at the pending disaster that Obama or McCain can’t fix and Congress won’t.

Looks like there is a sniper in the form Jennings. Great attacks with little idea of what you support yourself. Add to the thread, don’t subtract from it please.

You don’t cut a budget of this size without considering the costs you incure when you don’t program in recapitalization. That was what happened when the budget was cut in the 90’s - and the resulting surge in spending. The old action/reaction effect. The budget deficit is partly a construct of delayed or under-funding too, and all parties involved in the budget process share the blame for the deficit.

What the military needs to reconsider is the requirements side. If you want a platform to be the be all/end all, it’s going to cost a mint. However, if you make a platform that is specialized, you need others and more that have different capabilites. Which is more costly in the long run?

Finally, I think our military, having served 28 years in it, needs to have the finest hardware, training and maintenance on the planet. If our foreign policy objectives demand we play on the int’l scene - a large, and capable military is needed.

Mongo,

I did provide an idea of what I support. I support not being $10T in debt, a large part of that to China and Saudi Arabia. That was in my first comment.

The fact that weapons programs will be cut or trimmed should come as no surprise to anyone. And we should expect even more if the economy does not improve.

Regardless of what size of military we have or how much money we spend on it, our biggest vulnerability right now is financial. And it starts with our debt. We as a country are spending more than we make and making up the difference using a credit card. What happens when we reach our maximum balance and can’t get a credit increase?

I’m sure the response will be that China would never think of calling back their loans. Really? They would never displace thousands of their people for the Olympics either. And surely they would not send thousands upon thousands of their soldiers across a border to fight and die in a foreign land for no good reason. The Chinese government has no problem letting their people suffer.

DC2

i think that its ridiculous that they want to leverage the DoD spending. but if barack hussein obama jr. gets into office and this happens then this country is screwed and we will no longer be a free nation.

Anthony,

We are not a free nation. We are an indebted nation. And we owe China and Saudi Arabia most of it.

It isn’t a matter of leveraging. It is a matter of reality. There is too much money being spent on programs that are over budget and behind schedule. Or the programs are for battles that will never be fought.

It seems you have to be a Republican to be free in this country these days. I bet you are wondering why your political house of cards is crumbling around you too. Geee.

Yeah, blame it all on the Republicans…bunch of crap. The Democrats are just as responsible, if not more responsible, for the financial mess this nation is in.

eah, blame it all on the Republicans…bunch of crap. The Democrats are just as responsible, if not more responsible, for the financial mess this nation is in.

Wow, so not only are Republicans bad at actually governing, they’re too cowardly to own up to their own failures.

finest hardware

Would that hardware be the DDG-1000 or the LCS? FCS? Recon helo? F-22 or F-35? How much would it cost to buy every single thing the military wants? $1 trillion? $2?

You got the cash?

Yeah, we do have the cash if spending was cut in areas the feds have no real authority to waste our tax dollars on…like welfare for illegal aliens.

Cold Warrior,

I agree that Democrats have screwed things up too. But when someone blantantly shows that they think it is all their fault I have to show that ignorance for what it is.

And no we don’t have the cash either. That is more ignorance. We are dead in the middle of a recession, we are trillions in debt, and every major DOD procurement program is over schedule and over budget.

You are right now welfare to an extent. Maybe we should get rid of the corporate welfare that keeps these defense industry giants (like Bell) on the government teet too. What do you think about that Cold Warrior?

Understand that both sides of the aisle support welfare, it is just how it is distributed that is different.

DC2

Yeah, we do have the cash if spending was cut in areas the feds have no real authority to waste our tax dollars on…like welfare for illegal aliens.

Total spending on programs identified as “welfare” was about $100 billion in the last fiscal year (afdc and food stamps are a part). If 10% of that went to illegal aliens (a massive overestimate), that’s $10 billion we could free up. That’s not even one more new aircraft carrier.

Want to try again?

(The point, for those playing along at home, is that each service *always* asks for more than its share of the goodies in its budget requests and then plays the “America is in danger is you don’t fund this!” card. If you summed up all the requests they made, just weapons acquisitions would be over a trillion. Why? So when the haggling starts, they can be assured of getting *something*. A variation on this trick is to front-load the budget with weapons acquisitions, leaving maintenance and training funds out, and then go back to Congress with the ‘our troops are suffering from lack of maintenance and training…give us more money.’)

Total: Er, what? Wikipedia lists the US budget for 2008 with $324 billion to “Unemployment/Welfare” and $209 billion to Medicaid.

Unemployment is not counted as part of the welfare program, nor is medicaid. If you want to add those both those in (though you explain to an unemployed steel worker that he’s getting “welfare” in his unemployment checks and medicaid for his kids), 10% of that is still only about $50 billion. How much did the air force want for a complete F-22 buy?

What’s really hysterical about this is the site (and the commenters) write gravely thoughtful articles about how the acquisitions system is broken and that cost overruns are terrible, but when somebody wants to actually do something about it (like, say, Barney Frank), the amount of shrieking around here is deafening.

Total,

You have to understand something here:

Democrats can make whatever changes they want to Social Security, Welfare, or any other social program and nobody complains. Look at Clinton with his reforms.

Republicans can make whatever changes they want to the Defense Dept and nobody complains. Look at what Bush I did to reduce the military.

But when Carter cut the B-1 (rightfully so apparently) or when Bush wants Social Security reform (nobody would even listen to him and his request for change) it becomes a really pitched battle where nobody really listens.

Obama could add money to the defense dept and the right wingers would still cry fowl.

Obama should focus on the primary needs of each branch of service. Keep funding close to it’s current levels except maybe disbursed differently. And focus on the guys coming back from combat that aren’t right. Because that is a place where Democrats would be completely accepted and would succeed.

Other than that, if Obama cut the ARH under his administration you guys would be screaming murder. Because Bush/Gates did it then everything is fine. You get my point.

DC2

DC2

I don’t think we disagree with each other; or at least we’ve been disagreeing with the same people upstream.

Obama should focus on the primary needs of each branch of service. Keep funding close to it’s current levels except maybe disbursed differently. And focus on the guys coming back from combat that aren’t right. Because that is a place where Democrats would be completely accepted and would succeed

Obama needs to push the services to figure out what they’re doing and why. Why is the Navy cancelling the DDG1000 and pushing for more DDG51s? Is the Army FCS on track? Etc. etc.

As to focusing on the soldiers, sailors, and marines coming back from the wars (more than guys there), I agree completely.

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