Obama = Butter, Guns or What?

Obama = Butter, Guns or What?

Christian picked up on an interesting Wall Street Journal OpEd yesterday sort of dove tailing with my story from Friday that broke the news of Democratic party Brahman Barney Frank’s call for a 25 percent cut in defense spending. Here’s Christian’s take on the Journal piece and a recent reporters’ breakfast he had with former Navy Secretary Richard Danzig, Obama’s top defense advisor.

Now, Frank is not a DoD budget decisionmaker, but his views tend to jibe closely with the liberal leadership of the House and even some in the Senate.

The Journal analyzed what Obama and his supporters have said about what they’d do with defense budgets, so it’s worth a close read for a worst-case scenario.

Here are some excerpts: We’ve been fighting two wars, straining people and equipment. Weapons have generally become more complex and expensive. President Clinton’s “procurement holiday” punted the modernization problems to the present. And even after the Bush buildup, defense spending amounts to just 4% of gross domestic product. By contrast, at the nadir of Cold War defense spending under Jimmy Carter, the figure was 4.7%.

All this should argue for at least a modest recapitalization effort by an Obama administration, assuming it really believes a strong military is ‘necessary to sustain peace.’ A study by the Heritage Foundation makes the case that defense spending should rise to close to $800 billion over the next four years in order to stick to the 4% GDP benchmark. That’s unrealistic in light of the financial crisis. But holding the line at current levels is doable — and necessary.

But what if a President Obama doesn’t actually believe in the importance of a strong military to keep the peace? Or has an attenuated idea of what qualifies as a “strong” military? Or considers military strength a luxury at a moment of financial crisis? Or thinks now is the moment to smash the Pentagon piggy bank to fund a second Great Society?

Does anyone really know where Mr. Obama’s instincts lie? During the third debate, he cited former Marine Gen. James Jones as a member of his wise man’s circle — which was reassuring but odd, given that the general made a point of appearing at a McCain campaign event simply to distance himself from the Democratic candidate.

The Obama campaign has also produced a lengthy defense blueprint on its Web site. It reads more like a social manifesto, promising to “improve transition services,” “make mental health a priority,” and end “don’t-ask, don’t-tell.” All very well, except the document is notably vague on naming the kinds of weapons systems Mr. Obama would actually support.

And so the question remains: If elected, which Obama do we get? The nuanced centrist or the man from Ben and Jerry’s?

From the writing I’m seeing on the wall, we can basically forget end-strength increases. There’s no political capital in increasing the size of the military, but there’s plenty of bacon in hardware.

During an interview with defense reporters in Washington earlier this month, former Navy Secretary Richard Danzig — a top Obama defense advisor — talked to us about “revitalizing” America’s “overstretched” military, then went on to highlight Obama’s commitment to veterans care, traumatic brain injury and PTSD.

“It’s just an example of trying to do more for our troops and create stronger incentives for recruitment,” Danzig said.

What about more guns, ammo and tanks? I know a bunch of Marines and Soldiers who want that more than a little extra money for college classes.

Danzig went on to talk about how the acquisition system is broken (who hasn’t said that?) and that cost overruns on programs have gone ballistic (tell me something else I don’t already know)…

“We need to come to grips with the affordibility and the requirements process,” Danzig said. “The requirements need to be more appropriately fashioned not only to the desire to buy the most modern program, but also to” meet realistic costs.

“We have a strong view that national missile defense is a rewarding area that should be invested in,” Danzig added. “It’s an area that demands scrutiny. It should be used to the extent that it works but used with other checks and balances.”

“The future combat system in the Army is a system that’s been criticized … and needs to be looked at closely,” he added. “With our ship building system it’s just clear that we’re not building enough. … The shipbuilding program doesn’t work. It doesn’t add up.”

Danzig said Obama supports a 65K increase in Army end strength and a 27K bump in Marines — but Obama ain’t Congress.

Here’s more on hardware:

“The new technologies represent extraordinary capabilities — UAVs and robotics — we need to invest in that,” Danzig said. “We need to recognize that there are a set of risks in cyber warfare that are now very intense.”

On defense spending:

“I don’t see defense spending declining in the first years of an Obama administration. There are a set of demands there that are very important to our national well being,” Danzig said.

Then he went on to explain how out of balance it was that the U.S. spends $10 billion on national missile defense and less than $1 billion trying to control loose nukes.

“Is that the right proportion for what you want in your defense budget?” Danzig asked. “And look how you could increase the one by 50 percent if you reduce the other by 5 percent. We need to achieve a better balance [between soft-power spending and hard-power spending] and I think that can be done within the context of the DoD top line.”

So let’s see, more money for the corrupt failure of an effort to pad the pockets of Russian nuke warehouse guards at the expense of a missile interceptor that is our only line of defense against a nuclear warhead lobbed at Los Angeles? Soft power worked great against al Qaeda didn’t it?

So let’s get the conversation going here. Where will a swollen Democratic majority in the House and a filibuster-proof Dem majority in the Senate PLUS a Democratic president take us in terms of defense spending, programs and force posture?

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“Soft power worked great against al Qaeda didn’t it?”

Hard power worked great against Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia (post-Cold War edition) and Al-Qaeda, didn’t it?

There was some serious lack of “meat” in the answers provided by Danzig. I just love indecisive leadership, and most definitel tired of hearing “the process of “X” is broken and we’re going to fix it”. I’m not holding my breath.
Also, I think at this time, Obama will not say he is cutting defense spending, but when guys like Frank, Pelosi (lol — guy) et al, talk about it, you can bet there will be legislation to follow that will do exactly what they say they want to do.
We have a very foolish electorate, but as things do, we’re on this wild pendulum ride to the left — and it will swing back as it always has.

Total: Well, yeah, in fact, it worked great. The post-invasion insurgency is a different conflict. You’re right that “hard power” isn’t an effective tool for reducing insurgency, but it did fine at the job it was meant to do.

Colin:
“The new technologies represent extraordinary capabilities — UAVs and robotics — we need to invest in that,” Danzig said.

Which is good news for TSAT and AEHF people, because wideband satcom is going to be a critical need to make UAVs work.

“h, in fact, it worked great”

The fact that you can say that with a straight face is hysteria-inducing.

“is a different conflict”

Golly gee, so when the enemy uses a strategy that you don’t like, it doesn’t count? Lord Almighty, no wonder we weren’t ready for the insurgency.

I’m just asking. But if Obama came to us and we had to have him fill out a FS86 based on who he has associated with he would not get security clearance.

How is this man who has friends who have bombed American Cities being given TS and Q level info?

He quotes Karl Marx, won’t salute the flag, had a man launch his career who bombed NYC, he is supported by The American Communist Party.

Does anyone think this man is NOT going to destroy our military on many fronts.

How is a Communist getting in the White House?

Total: The post-invasion insurgency is a different conflict. You’re right that “hard power” isn’t an effective tool for reducing insurgency, but it did fine at the job it was meant to do. You haven’t refuted this statement with anything but “…nuh-UH!”

“You haven’t refuted this statement with anything but “…nuh-UH!””

That’s because your statement is ridiculous. The enemy changed tactics and we had no answer because we’d been obsessed with hard power. Calling it a “different conflict” is simply obscuring how unprepared the US was.

Total — you read what you wished to when rebutting Density’s comment about the post invasion insurgency. The invasion was aimed at, and was fought against elements of Saddams military.

The insurgency that followed is entirely different in character, makeup and objective.Initially it was Saddams military making up much of it, but that wasn’t true later. Having been involved in both invasion and countering the “post invasion” insurgency, I have a fair bit of objectivity about both — with no politicization of my opinion. Most people get lost in why we went there in the first place, and won’t see the operations for what they are today.
While I question the rationale of invasion now– all I can offer is hindsight is such a wonderful thing, don’t you think? :)

“The insurgency that followed is entirely different in character, makeup and objective.Initially it was Saddams military making up much of it, but that wasn’t true later. ”

1. So it was largely made of Saddam’s military immediately post-invasion and then they were able to recruit even more people? And you want this to be an argument in favor of your position? Oy vey.

2. The point is that having an insurgency _after_ a successful invasion was *entirely predictable* and the U.S. and the military should have been ready for it. They were not, and this semantic legerdemain about it being a “different conflict” is simply a coverup for that woeful failure.

” hindsight is such a wonderful thing, don’t you think”

Golly Gee, you’re right: no one could have _ever_ suspected before hand that there might be irregular warfare after the conventional campaign. Gosh, that’s never happened before has it?

As I have been involved in hard and soft power in Iraq for over 30 months in the past 4 years, I can tell you you need a mix of both the hard and soft power. We just need to finally admit it — the military was set-up over OIF. The administration wanted a quick fix to finish DS/DS of 1990/91 and a distraction from Afghanistan where the writing was already showing that hard wasn’t gonna win. (Anyone remember 9 years in Bosnia and its been another 9 in Kosovo (there for the beginning of that one, also) What you do not need is an overpriced, over hyped FCS system being assembled in 39 different Congressional districts. It is way too expensive counting on technologies that haven’t been developed, which still doesn’t do what we need it to do. However, it looks great in recruiting ads and promotional videos. It is a Rummy leftover (and other Cold War relics) aimed at making the Defense Industry a lot richer. Let’s not even get into Danzig thinking the Navy needs more blue water ships or the Air Force another strike fighter solely programmed to fight a near-competitor opponent that is 15–20 years in the future. Many in the Army are pushing FCS solely on the basis that the Navy and Air Force got new toys and the Army did not. Before we figure out FCS and missile defense (a sci-fi fantasy for any of us currently alive, maybe my great-great-grand kids will see it work), how about concentrating on a replacement for the M4; increased treatment and funding for the VA; additional resources for families; resetting and refixing our equipment? There are too many senior leaders in the military that are focused on golden golf courses they see with a defense contractor job after military retirement. That is what is out of whack. Defense contractors need the big, high-value programs (FCS, Blue Water ships, fighter aircraft, etc.)where they can send cost overruns through the roof and engourge their pockets equal to Big Oil. Let’s get that fixed!

LOL — I wish I was as sarcastic as you come across and the very reason why I typically avoid forums. Thanks for that.

1. You’ve compared an apple to an orange. I can’t respond to what you pose.

2. Yep, it should have been obvious to expect an insurgency. We all asked the same thing going in and even after it was over — yes, over, as OIF’s objective was to eliminate Saddam’s government and his power. The question was “Now what?” We were entirely unprepared, but I submit that that was entirely in the hands of political leadership as it has been in the past when it comes to setting strategic phase 4 operations. It wasn’t done.

I have not taken a political stance on this, nor will I. It’s pointless.

Finally, the hindsight comment I made? It was directly linked to the rationale for our invasion of Iraq, but it seems you wanted it to mean something else.I won’t attempt to convince you of anything you won’t believe.

You won’t see me posting in reply or even bothering to read any further posts. It’s useless as no exhangce of ideas in a respectful fashion occur.

Your sarcasm was absolutely unnecessary and unwarranted. Good luck with it in the future and good bye!

” I wish I was as sarcastic as you come across”

Some people work to achieve greatness, some have greatness thrust upon them.

1. Look at what you argued; the same forces were fighting each other, albeit one was using different tactics, and yet you want to call it a ‘different conflict’?

2. “We were entirely unprepared, but I submit that that was entirely in the hands of political leadership as it has been in the past when it comes to setting strategic phase 4 operations”

The political leadership surely bears enormous responsibility for this, but warfighting is the military’s responsibility and the military is responsible for having the doctrine, training, and equipment to fight the wars they might encounter. If the military is likely to face an insurgency, it needs to be ready to fight a counterinsurgency.

“Your sarcasm was absolutely unnecessary and unwarranted”

If that’s what you need to focus on to avoid dealing with the arguments, please go ahead.

Looks like Total got the last word, so I guess that means he won the argument! Right? That’s how all the kids on these message boards seem to think.

“ooks like Total got the last word, so I guess that means he won the argument! Right? That’s how all the kids on these message boards seem to think.”

I had won the argument before getting the last word, but I’ll take the added verification.

Matt,

Good commentary. Couldn’t agree with you more my friend.

DC2

Ed Murphy addresses the elephant in the room, Congress controls the purse strings and WILL cut defense. How it will work is that Obama will say his hands are tied there are “currently” higher priorities we will increase the budget later.…that will never happen.…the main stream media will NEVER report it.

The real threat becomes that defense S&T and R&D will be ignored for four (hopefully not eight) years of an Obama administration. With the pace of technological change the US could fall behind a generation.

“the main stream media will NEVER report”

Really? Fox News won’t report it? The Washington Times? The Wall Street Journal?

Obama’s not going to cut the defense budget 25%. It’s not politically possible, no matter what the Democratic majorities are.

“I’m just asking. But if Obama came to us and we had to have him fill out a FS86 based on who he has associated with he would not get security clearance.”

Ed: Makes a mockery of the system, doesn’t it? Live and learn. :(

But if Obama came to us and we had to have him fill out a FS86 based on who he has associated with he would not get security clearance.”

By that standard, neither would McCain.

I am a Vietnam veteran. I don’t know why they weren’t prepared for an insurgency. This is a repeat of all the goofy stuff they did in Vietnam. If it’s stupid when the politicians don’t expect an insurgency, what is it when the military doesn’t either? This is the same stupidity that was shown before, with the same blame game. Our politicians are concerned with reelection and their image. The military (top Admirals and Generals) are concerned with their next promotion, their image and playing with the toys they have. The same short comings with armored vehicles existed in Vietnam, as well as the lack of parts, poor maintenance and general lack of basic equipment. When those in charge are more interested in looking good, then you have all kinds of problems! The people in charge did not care in Vietnam and we had over a hundred thousand dead. Why do you expect them to care now?

Way to go Mark. You told it like it is and was. This war has been a duplicate of the vn war and probably will take as many or more lives if it keeps going the way it is. They don’t and won’t care because it isn’t them or their families sacrificing their lives for this country.

Mark,

The military was prepared for the insurgency. You know, during the 9 years between wars the developed a wonderful plan of invading Iraq. Unfortunately that plan took 400,000+ troops, which didn’t sit well with the Bushies. That’s when then forced Shinseki to retire and put good ole boy (and yes man) Tommy Franks in.

So your comments about politicians and top brass are right on target. Look at what just happened to the Air Force top brass for speaking their mind.

DC2

Let’s see…where is the real war? Last 45 days: Iraq dead 221; Chicago: 292…highest tax rate in America: Illinois; Nothing is going right in Chicago and Ill in general…let’s see, who is running the political machine in Ill? Why it’s all Democrats…and we think that type of machine is going to “fix” America!? I salute the Flag Mr Oboma!

Last 45 days: Iraq dead 221; Chicago: 292

Oh brother, not that old meme. The troops in Iraq are the equivalent of the cops in Chicago. So were there 292 dead cops in Chicago in the last 45 days?

(By the way, even your numbers are incorrect: Chicago had 291 murders in the first six months of 2008, not in 45 days. Meanwhile, the only way to get to 221 dead in Iraq is by counting January-July 2008, seven months. Even your smears are factually wrong).

I find it particularly disturbing and unnerving to believe so many people listen to whatever a particular source may tell them without questioning the validity of the arguement, and to often use those words discredit the words or opinions of anyone else.

The reason democrats are gaining such ground is because republicans have made some bad choices. I doubt –all– republicans are to blame any more that I believe all democrats are hippies and radicals. We can blame and flame back and forth all day, but at the end of that day we all wan the same thing; security for our families and ourselves, our country. This bickering between one another may seem trivial on the forums online with so much anonymity, but I see American’s fighting American’s, and whe I see that I have no doubt in my mind why this nation now endures so hardship.

We all forge sometimes that we are all people who have a voice, and a choice. Instead of disrespecting one another we should revel as brothers and stand strong in our unity. But instead it would seem we all decide we are better than one another and watch as our country suffers from our own induced hardship.

I joined the service because I believe in the things this country stands for, and I feel dissapointed when I see or hear two Americans fighting over something we should be united in. We look too much to ask a candidate especially a president to do our work for us. We place the blame and the burden of failure on our elected leaders when we are the ones wo hold thier leashes, we give them the slack they deserve or let go of the leash in hopes they will do the right thing.

What I want out of a candidate is integrity; I’m not buying their words but I am relying on them to speak truthfully. I’ve seen McCain in a few elections now and each year he loses, sometimes that makes me believe he wants to do what is right, he never gives up hope or stops trying. Then again, sometimes when he speaks I fear for the future he promises. I am entranced when Obama speaks, but wonder if he’ll follow through with his deeds. And so I try to remember, in the service I follow the orders of those appointed over me, I no longer bear quite the freedom or power I had as a civillian, but I will alwas remember come good or bad that I as an active participant, and when it comes time to blame I’ll look in the mirror first, and to each other second. I hope some of you choose to do the same, and listen to your heart before you taint your views with the soil of conformity, bias and reckless agenda.

First of all, Im not here to start an argument. Im here to comment and give a different perspective on this election. Im a military spouse (28) with a husband who is 30 years old with 3 children. He has served 12 years, been deployed to Iraq, and currently serving 3 years as a DA selected recruiter for the military. He gets cursed out, spit on, and disrespected everyday for mistakes other people have made. He wakes up every morning not knowing how his day will be but knows that he is here to do a job (that he did not choose, it chose him).He just wants to help them to see another way to a means of surpassing their goals and to select more men and women to serve. He has defended this country, military, his branch, himself, and our family at the sake of doing whats best for him and his family. This is our life within our family. We have whats important to us(our need) and we want what our family wants. There is not one candidate that proclaims that they will provide all of what we want or a solution to how were going to get there(in my family’s eye). All of this is about what has currently happened and about what someone & their officials want or think is best. Every candidate has flaws just like the rest of us Americans and everybody has wants. No one has the ability to read into the future but we all can see what’s broken. Everybody wont be satisfied when this election is over but someone has to try to fix it. These men are taking a huge risk trying to fix what has been broken and I commend them because I didnt try to do it nor can I fix it. There is a war on every street…Whether with death, poverty, drugs, abuse…I can go on and on. Guilty by association is beyond unfair. Am I guilty for reading/posting this blog while not knowing who yall are or who you might turn out to be in the future? Thats bananas! Lets stop this! Our America is hurting now and Im glad that both men see somethings are broken and need to be fixed.When will our current official admit that?Just one of them had to be chosen by us and one BEST SUITED the needs of my family and hopefully some others.Handle your business and you too will be fine. Thank you

Let’s see…where is the real war? Last 45 days: Iraq dead 221; Chicago: 292…highest tax rate in America: Illinois; Nothing is going right in Chicago and Ill in general…let’s see, who is running the political machine in Ill? Why it’s all Democrats…and we think that type of machine is going to “fix” America!? I salute the Flag Mr Oboma!

Oh, Thats right. I forgot that Senators were “in charge” of their states and their police departments. Use your sense man…

Total: your arguments are totally rediculous, and have no factual backing.

1. Hard power in OIF was the single most effective conflict EVER fought by the US military, as we achieved TOTAL air superiority in days, and then overwhelmed the ground forces shortly thereafter with ground and air forces.

2. The ‘post invastion’ insurgency was fueled from elements of al Quida and Iran, and basically created a vacuum for all of the middle easterners that hated America to get sucked into, in the chance they’d kill Americans or die for matyrdom.

3. The troop surge in Iraq has nearly eliminated many pockets that threatened both the country and the US troops there, go read the US death stats over the last year and note the DRAMATIC decrease.

4. Al Quida resurfaced because the politicians took focus off the main target (al Quida and Bin Laden and the terrorist camps in Afganistan and Pakistan) and focused on Iraq. The focus is now shifting back where it should be.

Please post to things you know, and not biased political filth. Being both a OIF and OEF vet, I speak with some considerable knowledge on the subject. Care to list your resume, or are you just talking about ‘things I’ve heard’?

I woke up this morning around 5 AM and started drinking vodka and diet Mtn Dew. After I got a real good buzz on, I went to our NG Armory and cast my vote.

With no clear candidate, I left with heqavey burden in my heart.

Neither are good for us, and both bring change we can’t afford.

Good luck,

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I have read all your comments and the one factor that I find in common is everyone seems afraid. We are all soldiers, airmen, sailors, or marines. Regardless of who wins we all took an oath to follow the orders of whomever is the “Commander-in-Cheif”. I don’t know what the future holds, but I do know that I am willing to give either guy the benefit of the doubt until he shows otherwise. Remember, a lot of you voted for our current leader and according to the polls and people that I know you aren
to thrilled with his performance either. By the way in case you forgot he was also military!!

Everyone has their opinion, has everyone providing an opinion actually served? Prob not. I saw what happened when Clinton and gang took over. I had retired , landed a temp gs 12 position, only to lose it and the BRAC started. The bottom line is that the military will suffer. If you do not have a strong military then is when the world starts thumbing their nose at us. Had we had a strong military all along, the world would be a better place.

This article should never have been placed in this paper as all it does is put more fear in the hearts and minds of the American military people. There is no truth in it and if we are to go on peoples past then let us look at all the dead and wounded military personnel from the Iraq war which was started based on bad information. So I tell you is McCain truly the better man. A man that almost lost his own life because he didn’t see it improtant to read the ejection procedures. The list goes on and on…Think about what you are doing before you get more people killed.

I am a military wife and mother of three military children. With a husband who has served for 24 years and is currently sitting in Iraq, here is something to ponder. Tonight, there will be a new president elected, which means my husband and every other person in the military will have a new Commander in Chief, aka new boss. If my husband and family are in harm’s way, I certainly want someone in office who has been there and done that!! Sorry, but an event organizer who has never been involved with the military in any form or fashion just doesn’t make me feel safe!! I could care less what he can organize, I want to feel confident that he is going to keep our soldiers and thier families safe and secure! Our America cannot withstand many more who turn their heads when we are threatened or attacked and allow others to get by with aggression against us! Wake up people!!

A lot of remarks get thrown around in the last minutes just before an election but one I heard last night that sent a chill down my spine was an Obama quote about the need for a “civilian security force.” What the heck is that? The Germans had one of those back before World War II broke out. They called it the Gestapo. In a lot of Communist countries, “civilian security forces” are very common. They answer to no one but the guy in charge and do his bidding against a public afraid to answer the knock on the door. Our military has a command structure that is tied to Congress, and the citizens of this country. The “civilian security forces” mentioned above have one thing in common, they all answer to the person in charge without parlimentary or citizen oversight. Without oversight or control, abuse of dissenters becomes the norm. It eventually becomes all about power, getting and keeping it at all costs. America beware! These folks are dangerous.

Obama in his 1/2 hour infomercial said that he will make our military stronger. Hopefully, he will increase manning levels across the services. As far as the defense budget, it does need to be revamped. There are too many areas of waste!

Total, RC is right about the conditions in Ill. Arguably, Chicago has a more lethal zip code than Iraq. Ill also has the country’s highest tax rate. The government is in a mess ’cause the Dem Governor can’t play nice with his own partymembers in the legislature.

Sgt JFK, you’re right, senators aren’t in charge of their states’ or any police departments. In fact, U.S. Senators aren’t in charge of anything. So, I suggest you be careful in reminding everyone of this fact.

A former Navy Captain has had more and greater responsibilities than a senator. A state governor, even one who has only been in office for about 2 years has more and greater responsibilities than a U.S. Senator.

Senator Obama is a bright, intelligent, and capable person. His oratory and personal demeanor are outstanding. But when it comes to actual accomplishments, dealing with daily problems, devising solutions to actual problems — and following through to ensure those solutions were effective — Senator Obama has no real experience.

A senator, of the Blue or Red variety, actually has no real responsibilites. They may answer to their constituents but that is of little consequence. Hell, Congress has an approval rating that is half the President’s. And that rating has dropped since the Dems took control. Bash President Bush if you will but Congress has done nothing to stand up to him.

Total, RC is right about the conditions in Ill. Arguably, Chicago has a more lethal zip code than Iraq

Crap it does, because RC (as do all the purveyors of this idiocy) leave out Iraqi civilians in the comparison, as if their deaths are meaningless.

civilian security force

Scary: the agronomists are coming for us. From an Obama interview with Defense News:

“I believe we can reconfigure our civilian national-security force. We still have a national security apparatus on the civilian side, in the way the State Department is structured and USAID, that harkens back to the Cold War,” Obama said.

“We need to be able to deploy teams that combine agricultural specialists and engineers and linguists and cultural specialists who are prepared to go into some of the most dangerous areas alongside our military,” he said.”

1. Hard power in OIF was the single most effective conflict EVER fought by the US military, as we achieved TOTAL air superiority in days, and then overwhelmed the ground forces shortly thereafter with ground and air forces.

Wow. Yeah, I noticed how everything was peaceful and happy after May 2003.

. The ‘post invastion’ insurgency was fueled from elements of al Quida and Iran, and basically created a vacuum for all of the middle easterners that hated America to get sucked into, in the chance they’d kill Americans or die for matyrdom.

And you hold this up as a recommendation for hard power, how?

3. The troop surge in Iraq has nearly eliminated many pockets that threatened both the country and the US troops there, go read the US death stats over the last year and note the DRAMATIC decrease.

And why? Because the U.S. military got smart and turned away from raw hard power, instead working the counterinsurgency tactics effectively and cutting alliances with local tribal groups. The “Sunni Awakening” anyone?

(You do realize that the Sunnis were the ones helping the Al-Qaeda folks originally, right?)

Nikki thank you for your comments! My husband is at school right now to become a recruiter..just like yours he was DA Select.

I have listed to no end the words that each candidate have spoken. I have listened to the rhetoric til I can’t stand it anymore. My husband met McCain when he toured the market place..you remember that..the one 60 minutes talked about. Yeah he’s an idiot. Would I have preferred someone with experience, sure, but if you could hear Obama speak about his Grandfather, you would know there’s not a chance he’s going to reneg on his promises. His wife is the same. The love and compassion in her voice when she speaks of the Military is unmistakable.

The invasion of Iraq is a joke. It was nothing more than Bush attempting revenge at the cost of 1000’s of lives. Shame on all of you for not seeing that.

The continuation of that shame will not be blood on my hands. I made the correct choice.

Total: Do you even know what the elements of Power are, how they’re employed, and who employs each one?

Until you can answer that, you’ve got no business talking trash like “hard power” or “soft power” like some expert just because you heard some news commentator use the term and thought it sounds good.

TOTAL: When did McCain ever campainf for a cousin that’s been implicated in burning down a church after his goons locked the village inside and hacked up anyone that tried to escape?

Total: Do you even know what the elements of Power are, how they’re employed, and who employs each one?

Oh Good Lord, it’s a quiz. The last resort of the failed debater.

Obama’s cousin

McCain has a cousin who burns down churches after goons locked the village inside? That’s horrible.

(Cause Obama doesn’t: http://​www​.snopes​.com/​p​o​l​i​t​i​c​s​/​o​b​a​m​a​/​k​e​n​y​a​.​asp )

Naturally, this piece is put together in the interests of those slimy Defense Contractors and their powerful lobby.

Has anyone forgotten that Clinton downsized the military budget at the demand of Americans, seeking a “Peace Dividend” after the fall of the Warsaw Pact?

Why wouldn’t a defense budget cut be in order when we stop squandering $10–12 B per month in Iraq?

The DoD can’t even account for the money and equipment they are given each year, so why should they get more? The DoD spends more millions each year on Change of Command ceremonies than we do on worthwhile programs. When the DoD can manage responsibly, then they can complain about the budget.

Been there and Done That: Very Well Stated!! Those one chooses to associate with are a reflection upon themselves! Pretty scary! By the way, Thanks! By your title, I am assuming you are prior or current military!

I’ll read all your blogs and I don’t think you get it at all. I served 26 years in the Armed Forces and believe me during my 26 years, I seen a lot. I don’t think serving time in the military make you a leader.….Leaders are born not made. If McCain was such a good leader, he would have chosen a much better VP candidate than what he did. His irrational thinking lately makes me wonder about him. As for you military wives, your spouse is the one who is serving, not you. You don’t have an inkling as to what the price of WAR does to anyone. Whether it be us here in the United States or whether it be the country we’re at war with. It plays a damaging role to anyone involved. I don’t thin having a whole bunch of weapons make you a stronger country…It makes you more of a destructive country whose destroying a bunch of innocent lives, including our own men and women. We all need to come together in this country–We as a whole is our own worse enemy!! Most military families are struggling these days and it’s sad that you are looking at a portion of the picture and not the whole. Wake up people and STOP thinking so much of military and start thinking as a HUMAN BEING!! People are dying all around you.…open your eyes and stop thinking MILITARY DEFENSE is the answer. We all as citizens of this country need to get involved!!!!!

Blah, blah, blah, blather, blather, blather.

Anyone who believes an Obama administration in concert with a strongly liberal House and Senate — perhaps even a veto and filibuster proof Senate — is going to be anything better than hostile to the defense establishment has been smoking crack.

Obama will need SOME money that’s not printed in Pelosi’s basement for his “civilian security corps” and his “neighborhood outreach centers” and all the other b.s. he’s going to foist on us. That money is coming from Defense.

As Joe Biden would say, “Mark my words!”

If we have people with this kind of leadership thinking in charge.…. well, we’re Fu**ed!

“Ill also has the country’s highest tax rate.” Where do you get this stuff? I live in Massachusetts now, talk about tax rates, that’s 5.4 vs. 3.0 flat. IL has MA on sales tax. 6.25 to 5.0, but I can just cross state lines if it bothers me that much. What else did you just make up?

I think this article is a political statement and doesn’t belong on Military​.com, which is what I thought was the purpose of the site. Our incoming president will have many other enormous problems to work on besides the military one Mr. Bush created.

I have views which I won’t show here, because they are not apropos, but what do I know. I’m just an 82 year old spouse of a Navy veteran

I wish your editors would stick to the purpose for which is was started. It has been a very informative site. for retirees as well as those still in the military.

Thanks for listening.

That “Peace Dividend” is costing us now with with equipment that’s long overdue for replacement. Cutting the defense budget after we’re done with Iraq will mean putting off replacing that equipment but getting and keeping them servicable in case we enter another conflict.

Millions on Change of Command ceremonies? Compared to what Obama spent in his add campaigns the past few MONTHS that’s minor!

DoD accounts for everything. Every dime spent is accounted for and every accountable piece of equipment is kept on an inventory. Having the contractors account for their work is another story.

It’s an obvious fact that most people reading and commenting on this article are McCain fans, but I’m here to say not all military families are McCain fans.
I could not in good conscious even think about voting for another 4 years of Bush policy, with another name behind it. How anyone can look at the state of our country today and say, “let’s vote in another president who agreed with the current knuckle-head 92% of the time.” What is going of, people think!
I am not only a veteran of the Navy, but also a wife of an active-duty sailor (15 years). I look at Obama’s “lack of experience” (as some of you refer to it) as a wonderful breath of fresh air. American politicans have too much and are too out of touch to relate to the general public and the military.
I remember in boot-camp watching a video about the USS Forrestall fire and hearing how a young pilot (McCain) was the one accused of firing off that fateful and disasterous missile, but how conviently he was never found guilty of anything because his daddy bailed him out. I know I don’t want anyone that is not willing to step up and say “I made a mistake that killed over 300 people” running our military. Of Course there is controversey over whether or not McCain actually fired the missile, but the fact there is records that he did destroy over $6 million of U.S. military aircrafts doesn’t make me feel any better.
My husband has also gone over to Iraq more than once and I pray he doesn’t have to return, but I would rather he go knowing there is an end in sight rather than not knowing when and if he will come home “this time.“
Obama isn’t going to be standing in his presidency alone, that’s another wonderful thing about the American gov’t. He will have not only Joe Biden who has been around the block more than a few times and the cabinet he will choose will have members from both sides of the aisle. Only a real leader would and could be willing to hear ideas different from his own party’s.
As for the budget restrictions that people are fearful of when dealing with the military. How did the Bush White House improve things? Did I miss something when my husband had to choose whether to wear his bullet-proof plate in the front or back, or choose to use it to re-enforce his vehicle? How about when he was only fed once a day for over 3 months? The Bush White House is a mess, no doubt, but McCain did indeed admit, more times than not, to agreeing with the Bush’s policies.
My vote this morning proudly went to Obama/Biden and I pray that the Glorious Lord will allow America a new chance, a new healing, a new direction and place Barrack Obama into the White House!!
To show America that being in office or being a veteran of our military doesn’t give you a pass on your past voting records as a senator.

I don’t see a basis for this argument, or its purpose. Its become quit clear to me since my Husbands reenlistment, that democratic beliefs are no longer welcome. I agree with Lorraine (above)I came to this site for information purposes not speculation. Many Democratic presidents have served the country and its military wisely and well.

… of course he’s going to cut the armed forces. It’s what liberals do.

I’ve been amazed at how supportive liberals have been of veterans rights and benefits recently (far more supportive than Bush, Rumsfeld,et al)but wait until they’ve gotten all the power. The liberal president and congress will revert to cutting our defense, our veterans benefits, and our military status at home and abroad.

I believe defense needs a fresh look (ala H.R. McMaster’s recent essay) versus the slave to technology FCS approach. But I don’t think an Obama administration even cares about ‘how best to…’ but rather is signed-up for ‘how not to.’

Boy, I cannot wait to retire from The Marine Corps and join the civilian defense force, “just as powerful and funded as our military defense force.” Maybe I’ll be issued a Luger and be in charge of indoctrinated teenagers.

Instead of complaining about how things are…how about we ALL get back to our basics and do what we know best. Train like you fight — fight like you train and ANYBODY who won’t pull themselves up by their own bootstraps get out of my military. Don’t say that our families aren’t involved. They are; it’s how we keep saine on deployment/away to know they are okay at home and vice verse. Yes, there have been mistakes over the past few years and we follow our orders like good little soldiers and sailors. We need to be the ones to pick ourselves up not them, the politicians. Us… us, military, stop the bad comms and isolationism in housing. Stop the fear of retaliation for telling a junior or senior they have a discrepancy. Get the military in the military. At times contractors are good but not when they are used so much they take away from our mission and people — billets, shore tours, and get over half of a command’s total budget for their pay. Oh yes and i forgot — my opinion doesn’t matter.…. why because no matter who you talk to blue shirt, khaki, zero, XO, CO, Civilian counterparts alike, unless it effects them directly they care not. but they care when they don’t get a battle E and when they don’t pass COSAR/CART/inspections.

This is all idle.…

When we get our basics back; our honor, our courage, our tradition, our pride, then we can go on. Get rid of the IDC — I Don’t Care — mentality. The CNO’s guidelines (Hertitage, Rate/MOS expertise, Leadership, Proffessionalism, Communication, Loyalty) are inspiring. We need to get back on our feet. What are WE going to do to get there?

… of course he’s going to cut the armed forces. It’s what liberals do.

Really? I think that FDR, Truman, and Johnson would be really surprised by that remark. Until they realized that you have no idea what you’re talking about (hell, even Carter and Clinton increased military budgets in the second halves of their terms).

t’s an obvious fact that most people reading and commenting on this article are McCain fans, but I’m here to say not all military families are McCain fans.

Bless you.

A.J. you are sadly mistaken about McCain firing that missile to start the fire aboard Forrestal. If you had seen the camera shot from the “plat”, you would have seen a ground support equipment running and its exhaust caused the missile to “smoke off”. This Navy HM Spent 12 months in ‘nam, returned 5 years later
aboard the Enterprise, so I know a “little bit” about carriers.

Well, stand by America, and particularly my “brothers-in-arms”. As a vet, I remember when Clinton took over and how the military leadership bristled. Even Clinton’s SECDEF could not communicate with his Chiefs of Staff. I just hope we don’t have a lapse in our leadership now, but can’t help believe we won’t in some areas. Maybe he can make Nancy Pelosi our new SECDEF and Jesse Jackson the head of the military MWR. I foresee even a larger chasm between our newly elected CinC and the Chiefs of Staff. Truly, I hope not, but feel it is inevitable. Hang tough my brothers in arms and God Bless America.

In a sentence, what a disgusting blog article to have on military​.com. I thought these articles cover comprehensive military benefits and quality-of-life issues. It’s a far stretch to say this relates to benefits or QoL. Reads more like an opus to the defense industry. Thanks for the partisan electronic rag.

Chicago CPO: Ill’s sales tax is NOT 5.4%. In Cook County it is about 10%. In Will Cty, and most of the rest of the state, the sales tax is 7.75%. The Ill income tax rate is 3%, as is the rest of Ill. Considering the Ill population living within Chicago and collar counties — Ill, arguably, has the highest tax rates in the country.

SMSgt Ret’d: “They also serve who stay at home and wait.” Military spouses may not be the ones forward deployed but they are not without personal knowledge of the sacrifices their spouses make. Military spouses and dependents also make sacrifices that are unique compared to “non-military” civilians.

SgtMaj, you have the right to disagree with a military spouse’s opinions, you have the right to provide a counter opinion and to reference your personal experience to support your opinion(s) but, please, do not denigrate military spouses because their opinion differs from yours.

Total: RC’s point, and mine, is that some of our inner cities are much more violent than a combat zone. I find it interesting that so many Americans talk about our losses in Iraq, and when we point out the murder rate in Chicago, they suddenly add the number of Iraqis killed in Iraq and try to make this an apple vs oranges debate.

And, when did it become impermissible for a debater to question his opposition? It is both reasonable and expected that someone question a person’s experience/background when that someone renders a “qualified” opinion. But you ridicule BeenThereDoneThat for asking a valid question, and in the same breath, dodge the question.

“Well, stand by America, and particularly my “brothers-in-arms”. As a vet, I remember when Clinton took over and how the military leadership bristled. Even Clinton’s SECDEF could not communicate with his Chiefs of Staff. I just hope we don’t have a lapse in our leadership now, but can’t help believe we won’t in some areas. Maybe he can make Nancy Pelosi our new SECDEF and Jesse Jackson the head of the military MWR. I foresee even a larger chasm between our newly elected CinC and the Chiefs of Staff. Truly, I hope not, but feel it is inevitable. Hang tough my brothers in arms and God Bless America.”

Amen Brother! I’m worried for our brothers and sisters in arms. The big problem is less and less of folks in Congress and now the White House with our new president elect, have ever served in the military and know what we need or what we feel. Then they depend on former service Secretaries that in many cases don’t know either. It could be a very bumpy road ahead and hopefully they don’t hurt us in the way I fear for active duty folks and for my brethern who are retiree’s just like myself.

Total: RC’s point, and mine, is that some of our inner cities are much more violent than a combat zone.

I understood what you wanted your point to be, but it’s a stupidly inaccurate one unless you count Iraqi civilian deaths. You’re leaving out a big chunk of the dead simply to prove some sort of idiotic partisan point.

the murder rate in Chicago, they suddenly add the number of Iraqis killed in Iraq and try to make this an apple vs oranges debate

What on earth are you talking about? You want to analyze how violent Iraq is, but leave out the vast majority of the people in Iraq? That’s simply false and misleading, and designed as a ‘gotcha’ rather than having any real meaning.

We will take from school and put in the budget, because that is what us soldiers want.…… As an enlisted I enjoy TA and that is what I want but if a FMR Admiral says that is what I want i guess he know me better than me.

Now I know that the military is normally pro Republican but in this instance mil​.com did their due right to inform service members of possible change to expect. I applaud mil​.com for giving us the heads up.

umm ya, arguments over soft power/hard power.

Those who can, DO (the GOOD).

Those who can’t, teach [those who prefer to impress others with magniloquent speach(GOOD teachers not included. America loves you and needs you)].

Those who can’t do either, prepare an ambuscade of polictical drivelry for the easy targets.
These folks love to lure others onto their tricycle only to pedal the lot of them into the center of a slough and spin wheels.

The ride was fun but it’s time to dismount a wash up.

Watch and pray that we do not share the fate similar to Egypt in Isaiah 19

Bob

Thank you for defending the military spouse. It’s wrong for people to say that the military spouse doesn’t have any idea what is going on. Maybe our Friend posting the thrashings toward the military spouse either A. didnt have one. or B. Didn’t have one he was very proud of. By any means I’m sorry he can’t see what it is we go through. I refuse to even try to shed light for the simple fact that just thinking about it brings pain to my heart. My husband is serving his 4th tour in Iraq and as a medical platoon sergeant I get to hear about a great deal of what he has to endure. Then add in what the relationship endures, the children, and trying to learn to live with a man ridden with thoughts and memories that make it impossible to live a normal life… or friend has no idea what a military spouse goes through or how much we actually see through the eyes of our service member.

I worked for seven years at Nightwatch, the presidents airborne command post. Unfortunately, the late Peter Jennings did not know this existed, otherwise he wound not have made his spurious comments concerning President Bush’s cowardice immediately after 9/11. To continue, besides a Top Secret clearance, it was necessary for me to have an Expanded Background Investigation in order to participate in presidental support activities. There is no way President Obama could possibly be awarded such a clearance considering his past associates. This scares me! Just remember, whomever voted for Obama deserves him.

There is no way President Obama could possibly be awarded such a clearance considering his past associates.

By that standard, neither could McCain, who associated with Walter Annenberg, who funded William Ayers. Eek!

Total: You seem to lack the basic understanding of what was what in OIF. There were TWO parts (read, 2), the WAR, then the INSURGENCY. The WAR (military forces attacking each other to gain supremacy) was successful. The anti INSURGENCY (military and non-military forces with no real goal except to take American lives) was not.

The WAR was an example of HARD POWER. The anti-INSURGENCY is now based on SOFT POWER, and is becoming more successful by the day (yes, I DO agree with you it started off very very badly).

You are failing to see any of the points or logic anyone is throwing at you, and instead you are bashing your head against your own stubbornness. I agree with some of your points, but mostly you are trying to compare apples and oranges.

Total: In regards to Iraqi deaths, the point I was making, admittedly in a poor fashion, was that prior to the U.S. invasion of Iraq many of the naysayers laymented that the US would incurr tens of thousands of deaths. When that didn’t happen they then started arguing that the war was causing tens of thousands of Iraqi deaths.

In reality, the Iraq war has been almost benign with regards to US deaths and even those wounded.

To be sure, every death and injury carries a toll upon family and friends — and, of course, the injured for those that are injured. Still, the number of deaths should not be the deciding factor vis-a-vis when we should go to war. America lost 6,000 dead on D-Day alone. The Marines lost 6,000 dead on Iwo Jima. Grant lost nearly 10,000 on the first day of the Battle of Shiloh. If we, as a country, decide to throw in the towel as soon as we hit the “magic” number, we might as well give up before we even start the fight.

It is certainly fair to question whether Iraq was a necessary fight. But it is specious to argue that the battle is wrong simply by looking at the number of combat deaths. It is the “need” for the war which determines whether the body count is too heavy a burden — not the other way around.

Partisan Politics have no place in the Military. Like it or not Mr. Obama is our President, chosen by a large majority of the electric. President Eisenhauer said “Beware of the Military Industrial Machine”. The Military is governed by the Civilians for good reason; we would like to grow our ranks and strength with out any controls. Defense Employees and Military Service Members will achieve their mission, and we will follow the Orders of the Commander and Chief. Senator McCain is a shinning example of Guts, Commitment and sense of Duty. Follow Senator McCain and join the Ranks, behind our President and Commander & Chief; President Obama.

SM Sgt Retired Wrote:“As for you military wives, your spouse is the one who is serving, not you. You don’t have an inkling as to what the price of WAR does to anyone.”

Ok, maybe we do not physically serve in the military, but sir, we DO serve our country alongside our spouse. We move when we are told, we kiss our spouses goodbye and comfort our children as geographically single parents so that our spouses can physically serve. WE form support commitees to SERVE our soldiers away from home and we worry countless nights until they are safely home.

As for having no inkling what war does to anyone, again sir you are mistaken. Do we not watch our spouses suffer in silent agony over the things their jobs required them to see or do? Do many military marriages not break up because of the time and distance that so often causes couples to grow apart?

And one last thing, WIVES are not the only military spouses with an opinion Sir, and I use the term sir only because it is polite to do so. I thank you for your service, but your views are outdated to say the least!

Total: You seem to lack the basic understanding of what was what in OIF. There were TWO parts (read, 2), the WAR, then the INSURGENCY.

Oh, for the love of God. I’ve understood what you’re asserting all along, I just DON’T AGREE with the analysis. Jesus H. Christ. Splitting the war in Iraq into two distinct campaigns is an artificial distinction to make us look better. We proved overwhelmingly better at conventional tactics, so the Iraqis turned to unconventional tactics, at which we weren’t overwhelmingly better. That switch from conventional warfare to guerrilla warfare was eminently predictable and the military should have been ready for it. It wasn’t, and that’s a bad thing.

Total: In regards to Iraqi deaths, the point I was making, admittedly in a poor fashion, was that prior to the U.S. invasion of Iraq many of the naysayers laymented that the US would incurr tens of thousands of deaths. When that didn’t happen they then started arguing that the war was causing tens of thousands of Iraqi deaths.

Uh, and you’re disproving that by explicitly leaving Iraqi deaths *out* of your argument?

I have read most of the opinions and respect all of your opinions. The one thing I have to say is “Thanks God for America and bless this USA.” The “Man” Mr President elect: Senator Obama has come thru like Pour Gold and shall lead his people. I am Army retired Major and is proud of my country. I have never supported the war but I respect and support the many men and women that is fighting or have fought for us.

This article is totally unnecessary. As a journalist, I’m surprised that someone would even publish this one-sided, fear-inducing, hypothetical crap. That said, as a firm supporter of our Constitutional rights, I suppose I have to be thankful that in America writers like Colin can post articles such as these. Just remember Colin, Men and women of all political beliefs have shed blood, sweat and tears to make that possible. In many other countries, you would be silenced by your new Commander in Chief.

Mine is a house divided, one for Obama and one for McCain, but we proudly serve our country, not just one man in office. I would like to see this forum do the same. Also, I would like to commend AJ’s comments and those others who have defended the military spouse (and the military child). We may not share an identical experience as our spouse/parent, but we are affected and we make our own sacrifices for the sake of family and country.

Obama has a huge challenge in front of him, restoring the economy and resolving the wars which began under the Bush administration. Not even a war-hero such as McCain could put a band-aid on the gaping wound our country has right now. He should have our support, not some fear-inducing, bitter journalist who shares blame not solutions with his readers.

There is no easy fix for the economy, but if having to make budget cuts (which, let’s face it… if you’ve been in the military for even a year, you know there are places in which budget cuts can be made! How many flat screen tv’s does a squadron need just so they’ll get the same funding the next year, how times does a project get sold to the lowest bidder only to be 3 years delayed and over-budget?) If there are budget cuts to be made in the military at least I am confident that Obama will go in with a scalpel and not a hatchet as was McCain’s solution. I for one believe that Mr. and Mrs. Obama will take care of our military AND their families for the greater good of our country.

Total: I think you misunderstand my point. The naysayers, in my opinion, had no concern regarding Iraqi deaths, at first.

It was only AFTER American deaths turned out to be extremely low that they then looked for another “excuse” to bash the war and/or America.

Total: I think you misunderstand my point. The naysayers, in my opinion, had no concern regarding Iraqi deaths, at first.

It was only AFTER American deaths turned out to be extremely low that they then looked for another “excuse” to bash the war and/or America.

You said the following: “Arguably, Chicago has a more lethal zip code than Iraq”

There’s no way I can squint at that and make it come out the way you want it to.

As to the naysayers you insist you were originally talking about, I’m sure you can provide some examples? Links? Quotes?

AF Wife: How many flat screen tv’s does a squadron need just so they’ll get the same funding the next year

Please dont confuse the Air Force budget with that of the other services. There is absolutley no comparison. Every squadron I have worked with has to count pennies when they order parts for aircraft.

Most units take pride in the ability to make the most out of the little funding they do recieve. And by make the most, I mean use the same printer for 30 years.

Luckily, it appears that the most probable budget cut or reallocation of funds will be removed from the Air Force’s pocket.

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Face it, we are F***ed. Sorry, no other way to put it. Yes I was happy to see that a woman was in the running for president, yep even that a black even had a chance. Then after primaries Obama was still in it. But then I began reading more than listening…since media is mostly lies and hype. How can your “mentor” have such views and beliefs then as soon as it’s all made public, “thump” you jump off his bandwagon and claim to disassociate yourself. Your wife finally claims to be proud of her country. You have known associates in other than the right places. So just hang onto your hat, and pray.
***now for comments here, bases usually win money for quality of life improvements through inspections and different awards (Base of the Year) — those are the things that fund such things as flat screen TV’s and refrigerators when upgrades are made to day rooms, rec centers, etc… new golf carts for the golf courses, new gym equipment.

AND, I’m sorry you, who are enlisted, have to salute your new Commander-in-Chief, when he doesn’t respect the American flag that you defend. Ponder that… Thank you all for protecting us. I hope there are funds so that your job isn’t cut.

TOTAL, your a TOTAL idiot! Get a life!

TOTAL, your a TOTAL idiot! Get a life!

Wow, that’s a pun, isn’t it? You used my screen name as an adjective? Golly, that’s clever.

eSimperFi… that’s exactly my point. I would have preferred the thousands of dollars spent on flat screen TV’s for the AF go towards better armor for my brother who was Army ground troops in and around Baghdad. Re-allocating funds within our military does makes sense in certain situations (and no I’m not talking about the awards given to bases for Quality of Life programs, there’s a difference).

As for AF/ArmyMom, the new Commander-in-Chief does respect the American flag and our country. He just doesn’t have to pander to the public to make it a point. He has served our country in community service roles which often go unrecognized. He doesn’t get medals or need to wear a lapel pin to prove it. Judge someone by their actions… not what they wear on their suit jacket.

Therein lies the essence of the matter. Well said, my brother!!! Well said indeed!

TOTAL, Jimmy Carter killed the B-1 bomber and set the program years behind! That decision has had a ripple effect on our bomber forces. Why do you think we still have to fly B-52s as a stop gap measure? To all of you, if you’re in the military or defense industry, you better hang on because it’s going to be a wild ride under Obama!

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