Comments on: DoD Budget Vault Closing http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/11/03/dod-budget-vault-closing/ Online Defense and Acquisition Journal Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:26:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: DensityDuckhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/11/03/dod-budget-vault-closing/#comment-3038 DensityDuck Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:24:02 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=2163#comment-3038 I agree that our recent "advances" haven't been anywhere near what we managed between 1940 and 1990. The problem is that without a war, there's no impetus to make a program work regardless of warts. The customer will put forth a set of pie-in-the-sky requirements and then whine when they're impossible; there's no longer any sense of urgency or "take what you can get". The customers will ask for the entire Solar System, and when we tell them that we can only do Venus through Jupiter, they'll say "no thanks" and go back to hitting things with sticks. I agree that our recent “advances” haven’t been anywhere near what we managed between 1940 and 1990. The problem is that without a war, there’s no impetus to make a program work regardless of warts. The customer will put forth a set of pie-in-the-sky requirements and then whine when they’re impossible; there’s no longer any sense of urgency or “take what you can get”. The customers will ask for the entire Solar System, and when we tell them that we can only do Venus through Jupiter, they’ll say “no thanks” and go back to hitting things with sticks.

]]> By: eSemperFihttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/11/03/dod-budget-vault-closing/#comment-3032 eSemperFi Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:03:40 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=2163#comment-3032 DensityDuck: I concur and redact my previous statement about WWII. There have been advances, but I remain frustrated by the ODT&E program's evolution.As we lower the percentage of GDP toward these programs, we fall further from the rapid progression to our sci-fi fantasies. When we do leverage a new capability from the current paradigm, we find it underwent such as slow evolution that it remains easy to oversee the progress made.<a href='http://www.esemperfi.com/ForumThread.aspx?categ=General&postID=11_5_2008__1_14_PMVG954QHDZGLPUIFTEEDH' rel="nofollow">http://www.esemperfi.com/ForumThread.aspx?categ=General&postID=11_5_2008__1_14_PMVG954QHDZGLPUIFTEEDH</a> DensityDuck: I concur and redact my previous statement about WWII. There have been advances, but I remain frustrated by the ODT&E program’s evolution.

As we lower the percentage of GDP toward these programs, we fall further from the rapid progression to our sci-fi fantasies. When we do leverage a new capability from the current paradigm, we find it underwent such as slow evolution that it remains easy to oversee the progress made.

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]]> By: DensityDuckhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/11/03/dod-budget-vault-closing/#comment-2972 DensityDuck Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:51:35 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=2163#comment-2972 eSemperFi: Well, we actually went pretty far because of the Cold War. Read up on SAGE if you think we never did anything good. Also: the Internet, you're soaking in it. eSemperFi: Well, we actually went pretty far because of the Cold War. Read up on SAGE if you think we never did anything good. Also: the Internet, you’re soaking in it.

]]> By: Charliehttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/11/03/dod-budget-vault-closing/#comment-2969 Charlie Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:37:00 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=2163#comment-2969 Gaming the system? That's just standard SOP. What this really means is that the chance of revising and updating requirements, based upon recent events and data, will shortly be eliminated. Much of the budgetary requirements are at least six months to a year out of date.(Based upon personal experience), most logistics data that must be used (by regulation) is at least that old. Some is much older. Gaming the system? That’s just standard SOP. What this really means is that the chance of revising and updating requirements, based upon recent events and data, will shortly be eliminated.
Much of the budgetary requirements are at least six months to a year out of date.

(Based upon personal experience), most logistics data that must be used (by regulation) is at least that old. Some is much older.

]]> By: eSemperFihttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/11/03/dod-budget-vault-closing/#comment-2951 eSemperFi Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:43:16 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=2163#comment-2951 I am not sure whether cutting the programs is the answer. I think we are due for an overhaul of the entire process.It has been a long time since we have seen any new technologies come from the DoD, and we cant blame the individual services for that. The one fact that remains blatantly evident is that no recent wars have produced rapid jumps in technology equivocal to those made during WWII.Funding the DoD should be an investment security AND technological future of the United States. Whoever is elected tomorrow has some serious work in front of them.<a href='http://www.esemperfi.com/ForumThread.aspx?categ=General&postID=11_3_2008__4_34_PMP1H9SGBASEZBEP25QJ9R' rel="nofollow">http://www.esemperfi.com/ForumThread.aspx?categ=General&postID=11_3_2008__4_34_PMP1H9SGBASEZBEP25QJ9R</a> I am not sure whether cutting the programs is the answer. I think we are due for an overhaul of the entire process.

It has been a long time since we have seen any new technologies come from the DoD, and we cant blame the individual services for that. The one fact that remains blatantly evident is that no recent wars have produced rapid jumps in technology equivocal to those made during WWII.

Funding the DoD should be an investment security AND technological future of the United States. Whoever is elected tomorrow has some serious work in front of them.

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