Hill React to FCS OK; Rumors on OSD Review

Hill React to FCS OK; Rumors on OSD Review

FCS, the Army’s prime modernization effort, appears set for a major restructure if rumors emanating from the Pentagon and Hill are correct.

Half of the eight FCS vehicles would apparently be axed or moved way to the right. While the lineup appears fluid, this is what I’m hearing now. It looks as if the NLOS-C, C2V, MCS Reconnaissance and Surveillance Vehicle and the Infantry Carrier Vehicle (ICV) would survive, along with the UAVs and SUG-V and the network.

A congressional aide told me this would mark a major improvement in the program and would answer many of the Hill’s concerns about the program. This aide pointed out that $18 billion will have been spent on the program through 2009 without a whole of hardware having made it to the troops. Especially in the current budget situation, that sort of burn rate is just not sustainable, this aide said.

As to the question of just what the Army’s approval of the PDR for the eight vehicles means, this aide said it may not mean very much in the long run: “There are really parallel tracks going. The acquisition system is just chugging along like nothing is going to happen.” The aide said that Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey is trying hard to “sell his FCS plan to Gates and the Obama folks.” But Casey’s efforts may be in vain. I’m sure Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), a senior member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, will have something to say about all this. We’ll see how well Casey and Inhofe do.

BTW, below is a Jan. 17 comment we received in reaction to a much earlier Buzz story on FCS. It came from an Army officer. I’ve floated it by several experts familiar with FCS who do not have a dog in the fight and they say it is highly accurate.

FCS is the principal Army modernization program designed to conduct full-spectrum operations enabling the Army to conduct traditional warfare, complex, and irregular warfare. FCS will allow the Army to function and conduct complex warfare in urban and mixed terrain environments. FCS will provide the Army and joint forces unprecedented capability to see and engage the enemy on the battlefield. Based upon F100: Managing Army Change Student Advance Book readings contained in F104 I argue that the Army should continue incremental development of the FCS program. Based upon Government Accounting Office (GAO) and other United States Government (USG) agencies studies begun in May 2003 I recommend development of the FCS program in two incremental (near term and long-term) development phases due to cost, timeline to implement systems, and dependence on advance technologies not yet developed. Near-term development allows for fielding of some FCS program systems within five years. Let us look at the cost, timeline for implementation and dependence on advance technologies.

I define near term as all systems that can be developed based upon the acquisition approach of single step development, defined, as capabilities required are known and the technology is available to fulfill development. The cost of the Future Combat System has doubled over the past three years to about $300 billion based upon Department of Defense (DoD) estimates. Challenges with developing the evolutionary technology required to build the platform for the FCS program is estimated to cost over $100 billion dollars. Long-term developmental cost would skyrocket due to the use of spiral development of the technology that does not currently exist.

“The CAIG report breaks down the estimates by account: $118 billion for procurement, $87.9 billion for operation and maintenance, $56.3 billion for personnel and $300 million for construction. RDT&E could cost between $31.8 billion and $44 billion, the report states.”1 The projected cost is just that, additional projected costs could be in the billions once committed to the development. It is estimated that the actually cost could cost 30% or more than projected cost due to technology development and testing.

Near-term development time line for implementation allows us to develop, test, and field component systems of the FCS program rapidly to the troops in the field that have a need for the systems now. Focusing on developing systems based upon advance current technology enables us to field the systems quickly and incorporate into future technologically advanced systems developed. The long-term reality of the FCS network centric based program is that it will take decades to develop, test, implement, and field throughout the Army. Currently there are no operational network capabilities available to support the network, frequency driven program. The budgetary and fielding milestones established for the FCS program does not accurately reflect the budgetary and technology requirement and challenges the system faces.
The near term and long-term development are viable and acceptable milestones that lends itself to development of the FCS program. Near term development are systems that could be developed over a five-year period. Long-term development would be all systems that require spiral advance technology development that takes longer than ten-years to test and produce a prototype.

The long-term systems of the FCS program is dependent upon advance technology that has not been developed–the logical approach is to develop those systems over long-term. The projected dependence on advance technologies for the FCS program implies an extended duration of development of a “Network-centric Operations” (NCO) platform. We will need to develop this new technology and secure it from our enemies. With China and other hostile nations continually probing and testing our networks (unclassified, classified, and secret) the new FCS network centric platform will need new technology developed in secret. The network centric FCS program technology will need to operate on a platform or system with multiple network security redundancies and firewalls. We will need to be able to ensure that FCS could not be neutralized or co-opted and used against our forces.

In conclusion, the bottom line here is that we are looking at technologies that will take decades to develop and cost the American taxpayers billions of dollars over the years. The technology being developed may become obsolete for the battlefield of the 21st century. Based upon the projected cost associated with the development of non-existing technologies, timeline to implement near-term systems compared to long-term systems I recommend development of the FCS program in the two incremental development phases discussed. The short term development of systems within the FCS program will be able to address the near-term needs of current operations. Long-term FCS program systems could be developed based upon existing and projected military technology requirements and needs.

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I’m certain the quoted Army officer is a great American, but it’s equally clear he used old and disputed data. His cost figures clearly come from the 7th paragraph of this 2006 Military​.com article:

http://​www​.military​.com/​f​e​a​t​u​r​e​s​/​0​,​1​5​2​4​0​,​1​0​4​8​1​0​,​0​0​.​h​tml

A week later the Army corrected the record with its own version of figures…and should have pointed out that personnel costs have no bearing on FCS costs since they exist regardless.

http://​www​.military​.com/​f​e​a​t​u​r​e​s​/​0​,​1​5​2​4​0​,​1​0​6​0​7​1​,​0​0​.​h​t​m​l​?​E​S​R​C​=​e​b​.nl

As for the predicted cuts in manned ground vehicles, I first read about that here (thank you Google News):

http://thehill.com/business–lobby/major-restructuring-looming-for-top-army-program-2009–01-10.html

Bummer. As I type, Foxnews is reporting that Congress wants the DoD to slash $55 billion which is more than 10%. Supposedly the DoD will be spending a long weekend looking for answers.

I fully expect FCS to get cut…maybe even in the number of BCTs being purchased. Point is that it sure would be nice if other services also felt some of the bite instead of just the biggest Army targets getting eliminated (like ARH) while far bigger-buck aircraft survive another year.

Agree, Cole. Additionally, the CAIG numbers he quoted include operations and maintenance funds. Considering that the Army will incur O&M costs regardless of whether it fields FCS or simply continues to use 25–30 year old platforms, it makes no sense to include them. I’ve also yet to see any CAIG estimates for such programs as the F-22, F-35, Virginia-class submarine, etc. The Army (and the Marines) have born the greatest burden in these conflicts and clearly need to modernize their capabilities.

ALL
Although this is not directly a FCS issue, the overall information, Source Center for Am. Prgress, tells a DOD story PRIOR to the elections.
We are going to get cuts, no question. The point of the entry, is that the source for these cuts is as stated.
Is this IAW the Leftist Agenda, ?
Saturday, November 8, 2008
in a 21st Century Military
* Rebuild the Military for 21st Century Tasks: As we rebuild our armed forces, we must not simply recreate the military of the Cold War era. Obama and Biden believe that we must build up our special operations forces, civil affairs, information operations, and other units and capabilities that remain in chronic short supply; invest in foreign language training, cultural awareness, and human intelligence and other needed counterinsurgency and stabilization skill sets; and create a more robust capacity to train, equip, and advise foreign security forces, so that local allies are better prepared to confront mutual threats.
* Expand to Meet Military Needs on the Ground: Barack Obama and Joe Biden support plans to increase the size of the Army by 65,000 soldiers and the Marines by 27,000 troops. Increasing our end strength will help units retrain and re-equip properly between deployments and decrease the strain on military families.
* Leadership from the Top: Barack Obama and Joe Biden will restore the ethic of public service to the agenda of today’s youth, whether it be serving their local communities in such roles as teachers or first responders, or serving in the military to keep our nation free and safe.
* Lighten the Burdens on Our Brave Troops and Their Families: An Obama-Biden administration will create a Military Families Advisory Board to provide a conduit for military families’ concerns to be brought to the attention of senior policymakers and the public. Obama and Biden will end the Bush administration’s stop-loss policy and establish predictability in deployments so that active duty and reserves know what they can and must expect.

Build Defense Capabilities for the 21st Century
* Fully Equip Our Troops for the Missions They Face: Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe we must get vitally needed equipment to our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines before lives are lost. We cannot repeat such failures as the delays in deployment of armored vehicles, body armor and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles that save lives on the frontlines.
* Review Weapons Programs: We must rebalance our capabilities to ensure that our forces have the agility and lethality to succeed in both conventional wars and in stabilization and counter-insurgency operations. Obama and Biden have committed to a review of each major defense program in light of current needs, gaps in the field, and likely future threat scenarios in the post-9/11 world.
* Preserve Global Reach in the Air: We must preserve our unparalleled airpower capabilities to deter and defeat any conventional competitors, swiftly respond to crises across the globe, and support our ground forces. We need greater investment in advanced technology ranging from the revolutionary, like Unmanned Aerial Vehicles and electronic warfare capabilities, to essential systems like the C-17 cargo and KC-X air refueling aircraft, which provide the backbone of our ability to extend global power.
* Maintain Power Projection at Sea: We must recapitalize our naval forces, replacing aging ships and modernizing existing platforms, while adapting them to the 21st century. Obama and Biden will add to the Maritime Pre-Positioning Force Squadrons to support operations ashore and invest in smaller, more capable ships, providing the agility to operate close to shore and the reach to rapidly deploy Marines to global crises.
* National Missile Defense: An Obama-Biden administration will support missile defense, but ensure that it is developed in a way that is pragmatic and cost-effective; and, most importantly, does not divert resources from other national security priorities until we are positive the technology will protect the American public.
* Ensure Freedom of Space: An Obama-Biden administration will restore American leadership on space issues, seeking a worldwide ban on weapons that interfere with military and commercial satellites. He will thoroughly assess possible threats to U.S. space assets and the best options, military and diplomatic, for countering them, establishing contingency plans to ensure that U.S. forces can maintain or duplicate access to information from space assets and accelerating programs to harden U.S. satellites against attack.
* Protect the U.S in Cyberspace: An Obama-Biden administration will work in cooperation with our allies and the private sector to identify and protect against emerging cyber-threats.

Restore the Readiness of the National Guard and Reserves
* Barack Obama and Joe Biden will provide the National Guard with the equipment it needs for foreign and domestic emergencies and time to restore and refit before deploying. They will make the head of the National Guard a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to ensure concerns of our citizen soldiers reach the level they mandate. They will ensure that reservists and Guard members are treated fairly when it comes to employment, health, and education benefits.

Develop Whole of Government Initiatives to Promote Global Stability
* Integrate Military and Civilian Efforts: An Obama-Biden administration will build up the capacity of each non-Pentagon agency to deploy personnel and area experts where they are needed, to help move soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines out of civilian roles.
* Create a Civilian Assistance Corps (CAC): An Obama-Biden administration will set a goal of creating a national CAC of 25,000 personnel. This corps of civilian volunteers with special skill, sets (doctors, lawyers, engineers, city planners, agriculture specialists, police, etc.) would be organized to provide each federal agency with a pool of volunteer experts willing to deploy in times of need at home and abroad.

Restore Our Alliances
* Engage Our Allies in Meeting Our Common Security Challenges: America’s traditional alliances, such as NATO, must be transformed and strengthened, including on common security concerns like Afghanistan, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Obama and Biden will renew alliances and ensure our allies contribute their fair share to our mutual security.
* Organize to Help Our Partners and Allies in Need: An Obama-Biden administration will expand humanitarian activities that build friends and allies at the regional and local level (such as during the response to the tsunami in South and Southeast Asia), and win hearts and minds in the process.

Reform Contracting
* Create Transparency for Military Contractors: Barack Obama and Joe Biden will require the Pentagon and State Department to develop a strategy for determining when contracting makes sense, rather than continually handing off governmental jobs to well-connected companies. An Obama-Biden administration will create the transparency and accountability needed for good governance. Finally, it will establish the legal status of contractor personnel, making possible prosecution of any abuses committed by private military contractors.
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Compare what is said this weekend vs above.
Comments??

Are they going to cut the self-propelled gun pictured above? I think thats a mistake. The Army needs equipment to fight THIS war, but plan to fight the next. I don’t know a whole lot about FCS, but there are things the Soldiers and Marines need now.

The Nov 2008 articles are all similar to the governor’s proclamation in “Best Little Whorehouse in Texas” — yes, these things are good and no one would argue what was said (we need to support and protect the troops, etc. (by support meaning we give them what is needed for them to do what we want/instruct them to do, and by protect, those things should help ensure the safety of our troops while doing those things.)

The reality is these things are costly, particularly as the electronics have increased in capability and cost. This also means that O&M costs for new equipment do not simply replace O&M costs for old equipment — it could be less or more, depending on what technologies and quantities to be supported are necessary.

The question is how will Obama and his team address the needs of the Defense budget when looking at all his plans for the U.S. and the limited dollars, especially as those dollars are affected by the recession (in a multitude of ways, mostly negative).

Sometimes when faced with more information, ocmpromises that occur appear to be back-sliding or wishy-washy when in fact they are more intelligently considered based on the new information (not available and/or reviewed before becoming the team in power). Most of the services tend to have blinders on when it comes to requirements of their fellow services. Resolving that is often an in-house political battle long before it reaches the Congress. Then throw the manufacturing contractors and their political sway into the mix, and the fact that all of this happens before the budget goes to the President.

Spending cuts are great but what do we have in the future to fill our out dated equipment? Timelines in this program and many others need to be met and if not than they don’t get paid and a penalty should be used until we get the equipment promised. The soldier on the ground doesn’t care how much it costs, he care if it’s going to help him in the fight and help him get home safe and in one piece. It’s for the soldier in the fight not the guy in D.C

The sad truth about us is this,we keep making new weapons and so are our enemies? Maybe if we
stop,something will be seen!

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