<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Hybrid Enemies – A Primer</title> <atom:link href="http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/01/hybrid-enemies-%e2%80%93-a-primer/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/01/hybrid-enemies-%e2%80%93-a-primer/</link> <description>Online Defense and Acquisition Journal</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:24:40 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/01/hybrid-enemies-%e2%80%93-a-primer/#comment-5228</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:50:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4069#comment-5228</guid> <description>Its not a logical opfor!Look at how our enemies are now.They don&#039;t need much too go out, and kill people...Quit wasting time...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not a logical opfor!Look at how our enemies<br /> are now.They don’t need much too go out, and kill<br /> people…Quit wasting time…</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CK</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/01/hybrid-enemies-%e2%80%93-a-primer/#comment-5173</link> <dc:creator>CK</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:20:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4069#comment-5173</guid> <description>This may sound off key.If you model fighting in the Middle East and Central Asia on surgical precision and attempt to counter small arms and RPGs with defensive systems that protect lives you will fail.You may want to go back an look at history of the region.  The successful armies were city killers.  They pacified the region by leveling the cities and not fighting one-on-one with the indigenous forces.Unless you destroy the &quot;armor&quot; the irregulas use - cities and civilians -- you are reduced to fighting a defensive battle.The counterinsurgency in Iraq is starting to work because it nutralizes the cities and civilians with &quot;hearts &amp; minds&quot; political tactics.  The other option is to level the cities like Putin did in Chechnya.RPG to RPG or expensive armor to RPG or reactive APS to RPG will fail.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may sound off key.</p><p>If you model fighting in the Middle East and Central Asia on surgical precision and attempt to counter small arms and RPGs with defensive systems that protect lives you will fail.</p><p>You may want to go back an look at history of the region.  The successful armies were city killers.  They pacified the region by leveling the cities and not fighting one-on-one with the indigenous forces.</p><p>Unless you destroy the “armor” the irregulas use — cities and civilians — you are reduced to fighting a defensive battle.</p><p>The counterinsurgency in Iraq is starting to work because it nutralizes the cities and civilians with “hearts &amp; minds” political tactics.  The other option is to level the cities like Putin did in Chechnya.</p><p>RPG to RPG or expensive armor to RPG or reactive APS to RPG will fail.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joris</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/01/hybrid-enemies-%e2%80%93-a-primer/#comment-5122</link> <dc:creator>Joris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:03:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4069#comment-5122</guid> <description>For the RPG Style weapons, I think I saw US troops use the Carl Gustav RPG. As for hybrid warfare, in my opinion hybrid warfare is not new as a concept. It&#039;s used by special forces to disrupt enemy forces. small units using urban terrain and special weapons, and irregular tactics, to gain the avantage. The to best way react to Hezbollah style warfare is to disrupt their actions before they can deploy their tactics effetively. By using human resources to kill key players, or disrupt intell. gathering by the enemy. We must do damage at all areas where the enemy lives, sleeps,works.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the RPG Style weapons, I think I saw US troops use the Carl Gustav RPG. As for hybrid warfare, in my opinion hybrid warfare is not new as a concept. It’s used by special forces to disrupt enemy forces. small units using urban terrain and special weapons, and irregular tactics, to gain the avantage. The to best way react to Hezbollah style warfare is to disrupt their actions before they can deploy their tactics effetively. By using human resources to kill key players, or disrupt intell. gathering by the enemy. We must do damage at all areas where the enemy lives, sleeps,works.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: UNRR</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/01/hybrid-enemies-%e2%80%93-a-primer/#comment-5075</link> <dc:creator>UNRR</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:51:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4069#comment-5075</guid> <description>This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 2/4/2009, at &lt;a href=&quot;http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Unreligious Right&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 2/4/2009, at <a href="http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Unreligious Right</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bushmaster21</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/01/hybrid-enemies-%e2%80%93-a-primer/#comment-5072</link> <dc:creator>bushmaster21</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:41:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4069#comment-5072</guid> <description>Sounds like the tactics that we used against the british in the revolutionary war when the country boys got tired of lining up to die.  Look at the american native americans.  they have been fighting in the woods for eternity.  The Army has scouts and have had for a long time and they have failed to use them in the manner they were created in the beginning of the cavalry.  Eyes and Ears with a radio and artillery to back them up. Not to kill tanks or drive roads protecting convoys but to work at night and small units.  I agree with the marines..... Put trained troopers on the ground and let them do what they were trained to do.  Eyes, Ears and call for fire.  That is just my opinion.  Scout Out</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the tactics that we used against the british in the revolutionary war when the country boys got tired of lining up to die.  Look at the american native americans.  they have been fighting in the woods for eternity.  The Army has scouts and have had for a long time and they have failed to use them in the manner they were created in the beginning of the cavalry.  Eyes and Ears with a radio and artillery to back them up. Not to kill tanks or drive roads protecting convoys but to work at night and small units.  I agree with the marines.…. Put trained troopers on the ground and let them do what they were trained to do.  Eyes, Ears and call for fire.  That is just my opinion.  Scout Out</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rhyno327</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/01/hybrid-enemies-%e2%80%93-a-primer/#comment-5071</link> <dc:creator>Rhyno327</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:57:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4069#comment-5071</guid> <description>A mix of heavy and lite forces will be needed for the war now and the next. Training small units to fight like guerillas is a great idea. As long as they have a JTAC to call in air-strikes, they can be effective. Seems the Marines are always out in front when it comes to ideas. The Israeli&#039;s learned a lesson from the Lebanon war. The Merkava has all kinds of sensors, and they use the CROWS systems for thier .50&#039;s and 7.62 mg&#039;s. We will always need heavy BCT&#039;s.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A mix of heavy and lite forces will be needed for the war now and the next. Training small units to fight like guerillas is a great idea. As long as they have a JTAC to call in air-strikes, they can be effective. Seems the Marines are always out in front when it comes to ideas. The Israeli’s learned a lesson from the Lebanon war. The Merkava has all kinds of sensors, and they use the CROWS systems for thier .50’s and 7.62 mg’s. We will always need heavy BCT’s.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Russ, 30 yr. marine E-9</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/01/hybrid-enemies-%e2%80%93-a-primer/#comment-5070</link> <dc:creator>Russ, 30 yr. marine E-9</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:40:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4069#comment-5070</guid> <description>From what I remember Air assets and Artillery and some ground people have the capability to place many senors in the AO and beyond.  Westmoreland set the battle plan in Viet Nam and we came out with a plan to see which side could lose the most troops.  Not being in the Army the only role is Special Forces, Rangers and maybe 10th Mountain Division.  The USMC has several finely tuned folks who snoop around and disrupt our enemies plans.  Small unit small imprint left. With our Sky assets we should be able to at least try to look ahead before we send in troops/ Marines.  With the need for more Air assets why is the Air Force kicking people out like their empting the garbage.Semper Fi</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I remember Air assets and Artillery and some ground people have the capability to place many senors in the AO and beyond.  Westmoreland set the battle plan in Viet Nam and we came out with a plan to see which side could lose the most troops.  Not being in the Army the only role is Special Forces, Rangers and maybe 10th Mountain Division.  The USMC has several finely tuned folks who snoop around and disrupt our enemies plans.  Small unit small imprint left. With our Sky assets we should be able to at least try to look ahead before we send in troops/ Marines.  With the need for more Air assets why is the Air Force kicking people out like their empting the garbage.</p><p> Semper Fi</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cole</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/01/hybrid-enemies-%e2%80%93-a-primer/#comment-5063</link> <dc:creator>Cole</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:16:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4069#comment-5063</guid> <description>Pretty good Wanat article. Biddle&#039;s article about the 2006 Lebanon war was OK. Hoffman&#039;s article is a snoozer and too history-based. The Captain&#039;s article about the advanced course still living in the Cold War was excellent.The primary lesson of the 2006 Lebanon war was refutal of the airpower-can-do-it-all premise. We already know that but a little affirmation never hurts.Wanat illustrates that light forces vs. light forces is not a winner when the bad guy knows the terrain better and has the advantage of surprise. That&#039;s why we shouldn&#039;t fight fair anymore than the Israelis do. Fight light with armor. Light threats can launch RPGs as artillery all day long against a Bradley, M1 tank, or FCS manned ground vehicle...less so against a Bradley or up-armored HMMWV. (recall that even in the remote chance that an RPG-30 fools active protection, there is still Chobham like armor behind it). Armored vehicles have the added benefit of excellent long-range sensors to see the firing insurgents and return heavy fire while under armor. The new Strykers have cameras mounted all around the vehicle which should a future standard for all.Wanat also proves the need for organic smaller UAS and small unmanned ground vehicles and unattended sensors. The latter two can be used as on Observation Post (OP) for the manned OP. In other words, a SUGV and unattended ground sensors placed around the perimeter and forward of manned OPs would provide early warning and allow early use of Claymore mines and machine gun fire, not to mention cueing the overmatching armored vehicle to open fire.Continuous use of a small aerostat or cued use of small UAS would provide wider perimeter coverage and targeting for distant artillery and NLOS-Launch system rockets-in-a-box that are not hampered by weather. If you read about VUIT-2 already fielded in Apaches, UAS video can be picked up in the cockpit of inbound Quick Reaction Force Apaches to provide early understanding of the threat and friendly situation at altitudes below fast movers to stay under the weather.Warfighting tools for the high-end of hybrid and major conflict also nicely tie into counterinsurgency and the concept of secure-hold-build...with emphasis on the secure and hold to support building. Unless the population feels prtected, the counterinsurgeny cannot progress to winning hearts and minds. Unless roads can be patrolled more safely, the enemy owns the roads.Nothing says protection better than an armored vehicle with great sensors and firepower, and networked access to more firepower. Such weapons when task-organized with light forces can substitute for light infantry allowing small elements to be spread more thinly while still assuring credible protection and deterrence.Current difficulties in supplying our forces in Afghanistan also illustrate our need for more fuel efficient combat vehicles. It&#039;s far easier to support an FCS vehicle getting 3-4 mpg than a M1 tank using 2 gallons per mile....or fighter aircraft using 2500 gallons every few hours.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty good Wanat article. Biddle’s article about the 2006 Lebanon war was OK. Hoffman’s article is a snoozer and too history-based. The Captain’s article about the advanced course still living in the Cold War was excellent.</p><p>The primary lesson of the 2006 Lebanon war was refutal of the airpower-can-do-it-all premise. We already know that but a little affirmation never hurts.</p><p>Wanat illustrates that light forces vs. light forces is not a winner when the bad guy knows the terrain better and has the advantage of surprise. That’s why we shouldn’t fight fair anymore than the Israelis do. Fight light with armor. Light threats can launch RPGs as artillery all day long against a Bradley, M1 tank, or FCS manned ground vehicle…less so against a Bradley or up-armored HMMWV. (recall that even in the remote chance that an RPG-30 fools active protection, there is still Chobham like armor behind it). Armored vehicles have the added benefit of excellent long-range sensors to see the firing insurgents and return heavy fire while under armor. The new Strykers have cameras mounted all around the vehicle which should a future standard for all.</p><p>Wanat also proves the need for organic smaller UAS and small unmanned ground vehicles and unattended sensors. The latter two can be used as on Observation Post (OP) for the manned OP. In other words, a SUGV and unattended ground sensors placed around the perimeter and forward of manned OPs would provide early warning and allow early use of Claymore mines and machine gun fire, not to mention cueing the overmatching armored vehicle to open fire.</p><p>Continuous use of a small aerostat or cued use of small UAS would provide wider perimeter coverage and targeting for distant artillery and NLOS-Launch system rockets-in-a-box that are not hampered by weather. If you read about VUIT-2 already fielded in Apaches, UAS video can be picked up in the cockpit of inbound Quick Reaction Force Apaches to provide early understanding of the threat and friendly situation at altitudes below fast movers to stay under the weather.</p><p>Warfighting tools for the high-end of hybrid and major conflict also nicely tie into counterinsurgency and the concept of secure-hold-build…with emphasis on the secure and hold to support building. Unless the population feels prtected, the counterinsurgeny cannot progress to winning hearts and minds. Unless roads can be patrolled more safely, the enemy owns the roads.</p><p>Nothing says protection better than an armored vehicle with great sensors and firepower, and networked access to more firepower. Such weapons when task-organized with light forces can substitute for light infantry allowing small elements to be spread more thinly while still assuring credible protection and deterrence.</p><p>Current difficulties in supplying our forces in Afghanistan also illustrate our need for more fuel efficient combat vehicles. It’s far easier to support an FCS vehicle getting 3–4 mpg than a M1 tank using 2 gallons per mile.…or fighter aircraft using 2500 gallons every few hours.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joe</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/01/hybrid-enemies-%e2%80%93-a-primer/#comment-5057</link> <dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:07:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4069#comment-5057</guid> <description>The U.S. military will continue to resist irregular warfare and continue to forge on with it&#039;s second generation mindset,simply because U.S. military might has always been able to fall back on its momentum to succeed in conflicts like Iraq,despite noticeable drawbacks.Unfortunately, modern U.S. history has shown that U.S. politics and foreign policy mean that the U.S. will continue to embark on counter insurgency(Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan)and peace keeping roles that will bring it into contact with hybrid threats(Somalia)now and in the foreseeable future.Petraeus will no doubt put many people skilled in counter insurgency in positions of influence,which will help with a America&#039;s next inevitable counter insurgency. I&#039;m not sure that translates into making U.S. forces capable in a 4th Generation context.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U.S. military will continue to resist irregular warfare and continue to forge on with it’s second generation mindset,simply because U.S. military might has always been able to fall back on its momentum to succeed in conflicts like Iraq,despite noticeable drawbacks.</p><p>Unfortunately, modern U.S. history has shown that U.S. politics and foreign policy mean that the U.S. will continue to embark on counter insurgency(Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan)and peace keeping roles that will bring it into contact with hybrid threats(Somalia)now and in the foreseeable future.</p><p>Petraeus will no doubt put many people skilled in counter insurgency in positions of influence,which will help with a America’s next inevitable counter insurgency. I’m not sure that translates into making U.S. forces capable in a 4th Generation context.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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