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> <channel><title>Comments on: More Bushites Stay; Schwartz’s Gutenberg Speech</title> <atom:link href="http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/27/more-bushites-stay-schwartzs-guttenberg-speech/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/27/more-bushites-stay-schwartzs-guttenberg-speech/</link> <description>Online Defense and Acquisition Journal</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:50:30 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Colin Clark</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/27/more-bushites-stay-schwartzs-guttenberg-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-7058</link> <dc:creator>Colin Clark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:38:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4682#comment-7058</guid> <description>King,Thanks for pointing this out. It&#039;s fixed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>King,</p><p>Thanks for pointing this out. It’s fixed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: King Harry</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/27/more-bushites-stay-schwartzs-guttenberg-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-7055</link> <dc:creator>King Harry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:09:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4682#comment-7055</guid> <description>It isn&#039;t Bill Clapper. It&#039;s Jim Clapper. Get it straight.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn’t Bill Clapper. It’s Jim Clapper. Get it straight.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JDAM</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/27/more-bushites-stay-schwartzs-guttenberg-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-5877</link> <dc:creator>JDAM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:50:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4682#comment-5877</guid> <description>Thanks, Chief, for refocusing. There are other parts to DOD, after all, than the infantry, and each has a unique job that they tend to do extraordinarily well.  Dying is not the object of war, and neither should it be the object of policy.  We should, in fact, be trying to do what the American people want, which is LESS dying while getting the job done.  Constantly waving the bloody scarf does not move the debate forward.  Despite all guys on patrols exposed to IEDs, the fact is that most all of the al Qaeda leadership has been taken out by...the lowly Predator.  Last time I checked, this is supposed to be a joint team where we respect each other for our UNIQUE contributions.  I appreciate the contributions of the Army, Marine Corps, and Navy and respect that they have different jobs and worldviews. I don&#039;t understand why the Army breaks every time there&#039;s a war, since that&#039;s their job, but in any case, I respect what they do in combat.  A little respect in return for what the Air Force does would not be expected, because you see precious little of it, but that would be the right thing to do.  The Air Force understands air superiority, which is the essential precondition for all US military operations--they are the only ones who do it for the entire joint team. Armchair Pattons should concentrate on what they understand and leave air superiority to the experts.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Chief, for refocusing. There are other parts to DOD, after all, than the infantry, and each has a unique job that they tend to do extraordinarily well.  Dying is not the object of war, and neither should it be the object of policy.  We should, in fact, be trying to do what the American people want, which is LESS dying while getting the job done.  Constantly waving the bloody scarf does not move the debate forward.  Despite all guys on patrols exposed to IEDs, the fact is that most all of the al Qaeda leadership has been taken out by…the lowly Predator.  Last time I checked, this is supposed to be a joint team where we respect each other for our UNIQUE contributions.  I appreciate the contributions of the Army, Marine Corps, and Navy and respect that they have different jobs and worldviews. I don’t understand why the Army breaks every time there’s a war, since that’s their job, but in any case, I respect what they do in combat.  A little respect in return for what the Air Force does would not be expected, because you see precious little of it, but that would be the right thing to do.  The Air Force understands air superiority, which is the essential precondition for all US military operations–they are the only ones who do it for the entire joint team. Armchair Pattons should concentrate on what they understand and leave air superiority to the experts.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chief Houston</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/27/more-bushites-stay-schwartzs-guttenberg-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-5845</link> <dc:creator>Chief Houston</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:19:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4682#comment-5845</guid> <description>Let&#039;s stay focused here gentlemen, isn&#039;t this about the Air Force? Nobody said that Army, Marine or any other service did not need what they could use best. We better work this out. It is &quot;Perfect Battalion&quot; time! Noboby said someone&#039;s life is not as important as someone else&#039;s! It is time to expect the best from each other and our leaders. Are we really this secular or can we truly function as a multi-tasked juggernaut using EVERYTHING that we have to battle the enemy !?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s stay focused here gentlemen, isn’t this about the Air Force? Nobody said that Army, Marine or any other service did not need what they could use best. We better work this out. It is “Perfect Battalion” time! Noboby said someone’s life is not as important as someone else’s! It is time to expect the best from each other and our leaders. Are we really this secular or can we truly function as a multi-tasked juggernaut using EVERYTHING that we have to battle the enemy !?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BleedsPurple</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/27/more-bushites-stay-schwartzs-guttenberg-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-5801</link> <dc:creator>BleedsPurple</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:12:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4682#comment-5801</guid> <description>7+ years of conflict and we are now dropping the ball to keep the USAF &amp; USN modernized &amp; well equipped.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7+ years of conflict and we are now dropping the ball to keep the USAF &amp; USN modernized &amp; well equipped.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cole</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/27/more-bushites-stay-schwartzs-guttenberg-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-5774</link> <dc:creator>Cole</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:13:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4682#comment-5774</guid> <description>I respect Air Force Chief of Staff Schwartz and Air Force Special Ops Airman enormously. I also respect the skills and service of other Airmen who know what it means to fight joint and provide close air support. I read that the Air Force will deploy 300 Strykers to landlocked Afghanistan. Bravo, and kudos to the efforts to keep the force supplied every day.But just as Airman Rheiner was honored for heroism, another JTAC died not long ago alongside 2 Army Soldiers in an IED incident in Afghanistan.In doing so, SSG Timothy Davis joined many thousands of Army Soldiers and Marines that have died there and in Iraq heroically serving...and don&#039;t forget the countless thousands more who have been maimed both physically and mentally. The Air Force total deaths attributed to Afghanistan is 35 according to icasualties.org. Of those 35, 19 were non-hostile and 14 involved helicopter crashes (3 hostile). Seven Airmen deaths were attributed to IEDs and hostile small arms fire.Without a doubt, the Army and Marine totals would be much higher were it not for the superb efforts of Airman providing close air support...and this includes those JTACs humping on the ground alongside infantry and special ops brothers. For that, Soldiers/Marines are eternally greatful...but the Army provides helicopter close combat attack support, as well, and has suffered far greater casualties in the air.So it is disheartening to think that billions of procurement, construction, operations and support, and salary dollars go to Airmen who are not as much in harm&#039;s way, nor do they deploy as frequently for long durations in harm&#039;s way as do Soldiers and Marines.In coming tough budget years, we already know that the Army&#039;s SOLE major procurement program, FCS will get slashed in size/scope. We have already seen the Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter get slashed despite the fact that it would cost 1/7th the price of a F-35A, and 1/12th the price of a F-22 that has never served in war. Yet we know the ARH would be used everyday in places like Afghanistan and Iraq.In addition the Army is offered the false choice of either resetting due to worn out current equipment or modernizing for current and future wars. They claim there isn&#039;t enough money for both and for badly needed force structure increases to lessen the Army&#039;s multiple deployment nightmare. Yet other services do not face such a choice...created by the very selfless service that has worn out so much equipment and career Soldier lives.So forgive me if I don&#039;t get all choked up in recognition of Gutenberg&#039;s accomplishments...because believe it or not, technology works on the ground, too. In addition, technology on the ground (and in aircraft controlled by ground forces)saves Soldier lives that should be worth every bit as much as an Airman or Sailor life.Judging by the fatality and maiming injury count, reset requirements, and deployment burden, it seems clear to me where much more technology, procurement, construction, salary, and force structure dollars should be going. But will it??</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect Air Force Chief of Staff Schwartz and Air Force Special Ops Airman enormously. I also respect the skills and service of other Airmen who know what it means to fight joint and provide close air support. I read that the Air Force will deploy 300 Strykers to landlocked Afghanistan. Bravo, and kudos to the efforts to keep the force supplied every day.</p><p>But just as Airman Rheiner was honored for heroism, another JTAC died not long ago alongside 2 Army Soldiers in an IED incident in Afghanistan.</p><p>In doing so, SSG Timothy Davis joined many thousands of Army Soldiers and Marines that have died there and in Iraq heroically serving…and don’t forget the countless thousands more who have been maimed both physically and mentally. The Air Force total deaths attributed to Afghanistan is 35 according to icasualties.org. Of those 35, 19 were non-hostile and 14 involved helicopter crashes (3 hostile). Seven Airmen deaths were attributed to IEDs and hostile small arms fire.</p><p>Without a doubt, the Army and Marine totals would be much higher were it not for the superb efforts of Airman providing close air support…and this includes those JTACs humping on the ground alongside infantry and special ops brothers. For that, Soldiers/Marines are eternally greatful…but the Army provides helicopter close combat attack support, as well, and has suffered far greater casualties in the air.</p><p>So it is disheartening to think that billions of procurement, construction, operations and support, and salary dollars go to Airmen who are not as much in harm’s way, nor do they deploy as frequently for long durations in harm’s way as do Soldiers and Marines.</p><p>In coming tough budget years, we already know that the Army’s SOLE major procurement program, FCS will get slashed in size/scope. We have already seen the Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter get slashed despite the fact that it would cost 1/7th the price of a F-35A, and 1/12th the price of a F-22 that has never served in war. Yet we know the ARH would be used everyday in places like Afghanistan and Iraq.</p><p>In addition the Army is offered the false choice of either resetting due to worn out current equipment or modernizing for current and future wars. They claim there isn’t enough money for both and for badly needed force structure increases to lessen the Army’s multiple deployment nightmare. Yet other services do not face such a choice…created by the very selfless service that has worn out so much equipment and career Soldier lives.</p><p>So forgive me if I don’t get all choked up in recognition of Gutenberg’s accomplishments…because believe it or not, technology works on the ground, too. In addition, technology on the ground (and in aircraft controlled by ground forces)saves Soldier lives that should be worth every bit as much as an Airman or Sailor life.</p><p>Judging by the fatality and maiming injury count, reset requirements, and deployment burden, it seems clear to me where much more technology, procurement, construction, salary, and force structure dollars should be going. But will it??</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hitch Hiker</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/27/more-bushites-stay-schwartzs-guttenberg-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-5773</link> <dc:creator>Hitch Hiker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:07:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4682#comment-5773</guid> <description>When I ran programs in industry I could replace non-performers and &quot;keep good people working on&quot; innovations. Or I could provide the special training required. When I was supervisor to a mix of civilian and military engineers while on active duty I could not do this. If such constraints still remain in the USAF and I think they do, then the CSAF should be working to remove them. It&#039;s hardly a total solution but it would help remove roadblocks to successful innovation.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I ran programs in industry I could replace non-performers and “keep good people working on” innovations. Or I could provide the special training required. When I was supervisor to a mix of civilian and military engineers while on active duty I could not do this. If such constraints still remain in the USAF and I think they do, then the CSAF should be working to remove them. It’s hardly a total solution but it would help remove roadblocks to successful innovation.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chief Houston</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/27/more-bushites-stay-schwartzs-guttenberg-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-5768</link> <dc:creator>Chief Houston</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:13:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=4682#comment-5768</guid> <description>Sometimes the lessons to be learned from a speech do not come to you right away, especially ones that makes you think and read references for insight. Good ideas do not have a party, so I have no problem with
Gen. Schwartz as long as he gives his best! I had a Latin teacher once Dr. Leahey, who periodically would put his head down and raise up in character reciting Ovid to us. It freaked us out because, we would be studying something else. He would come out of context on us.
This demanded our attention in ways we did not understand then.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes the lessons to be learned from a speech do not come to you right away, especially ones that makes you think and read references for insight. Good ideas do not have a party, so I have no problem with<br
/> Gen. Schwartz as long as he gives his best! I had a Latin teacher once Dr. Leahey, who periodically would put his head down and raise up in character reciting Ovid to us. It freaked us out because, we would be studying something else. He would come out of context on us.<br
/> This demanded our attention in ways we did not understand then.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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