<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: FCS Vehicle Kill Mulled; Savings Small for 2010</title> <atom:link href="http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/</link> <description>Online Defense and Acquisition Journal</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:30:48 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: gokkasten</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-78448</link> <dc:creator>gokkasten</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:33:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-78448</guid> <description>I rarely comment but I figured I needed to do it now after visiting your site so frequently. We readers need to show appreciation! Keep up the good work! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rarely comment but I figured I needed to do it now after visiting your site so frequently. We readers need to show appreciation! Keep up the good work!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rhyno327</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-8361</link> <dc:creator>Rhyno327</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:41:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-8361</guid> <description>NLOS-C vehicle? Light and mobile, fueled by batteries also, is quiet and can move after firing. Its lighter than the Paladin, and can be moved to theatre faster. Hope they keep it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NLOS-C vehicle? Light and mobile, fueled by batteries also, is quiet and can move after firing. Its lighter than the Paladin, and can be moved to theatre faster. Hope they keep it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: huang chu king</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-8288</link> <dc:creator>huang chu king</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:08:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-8288</guid> <description>Better to invest the amount in the veterans and their health care instead of on the FCS MGV.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better to invest the amount in the veterans and their health care instead of on the FCS MGV.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JCitizen</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-7381</link> <dc:creator>JCitizen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:30:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-7381</guid> <description>FCS needs to be redesigned from the ground up. The main reason? Fuel. We don&#039;t have a realistic fuel picture for future logistics. If OPEC shuts us off this could be a very short action for sure!There is no doubt we need to be smart and continue to rethink our picture for future force infrastructure - I just think this program didn&#039;t go far enough.Cancling any contract can sometimes cost more than simply finishing what we got and pulling the numbers short. Better to not have enough FCS vehicles that lose anymore of the taxpayers money. NLOS is critical because we need to reduce the number of personel it takes to operate an artillery unit. There is no need of the manpower when you are using automated system.In fact why don&#039;t they fully automate it? Then there would be no need for armor in the first place. We could build them cheap and replace them from attrition faster than the enemy could destroy them, and it is a LOT easier to harden a light vehicle that has NO personel on board. Build it with modularization in mind and battle action would be cheaper to repair too!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FCS needs to be redesigned from the ground up. The main reason? Fuel. We don’t have a realistic fuel picture for future logistics. If OPEC shuts us off this could be a very short action for sure!</p><p>There is no doubt we need to be smart and continue to rethink our picture for future force infrastructure — I just think this program didn’t go far enough.</p><p>Cancling any contract can sometimes cost more than simply finishing what we got and pulling the numbers short. Better to not have enough FCS vehicles that lose anymore of the taxpayers money. NLOS is critical because we need to reduce the number of personel it takes to operate an artillery unit. There is no need of the manpower when you are using automated system.</p><p>In fact why don’t they fully automate it? Then there would be no need for armor in the first place. We could build them cheap and replace them from attrition faster than the enemy could destroy them, and it is a LOT easier to harden a light vehicle that has NO personel on board. Build it with modularization in mind and battle action would be cheaper to repair too!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tyler</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6905</link> <dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:50:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6905</guid> <description>Generally I do not post on blogs, but I would like to say that this post really forced me to do so! really nice post.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally I do not post on blogs, but I would like to say that this post really forced me to do so! really nice post.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MKM</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6475</link> <dc:creator>MKM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:30:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6475</guid> <description>I know tanks are sexier to consider, but personally I think the money could be better spent on the soldiers.  In yesterday&#039;s nextbigfuture.com, they displayed a brand new, cutting edge, computerized battle helmet.  It can not only detect the enemy within a certain radius, it can identify the type and caliber of weapons the enemy is carrying!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know tanks are sexier to consider, but personally I think the money could be better spent on the soldiers.  In yesterday’s nextbigfuture.com, they displayed a brand new, cutting edge, computerized battle helmet.  It can not only detect the enemy within a certain radius, it can identify the type and caliber of weapons the enemy is carrying!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pvtpyle</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6472</link> <dc:creator>pvtpyle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:24:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6472</guid> <description>For the first time I think this conversation is focused on mostly the right topics:  should FCS exist in its current form, change into something else, or be cancelled. Let’s look at some facts and the current state of the program to allow folks to add to the debate.First, probably the most relevant question is: Will FCS capabilities actually help the Warfighter? The answer is yes. True, FCS started as a development program with a construct of “get there first but with great firepower” but current operations and a flexible acquisition strategy (not stovepiped—allowing for requirements changes based on lessons learned and Soldier feedback) have helped the Army focus FCS into a program that is relevant and does offer technological advantages to the Soldier. As reported, the Army made a decision to provide FCS equipment to Soldiers in the Infantry Brigade Combat Teams first and is looking at where FCS will fit into other BCTs.Not only is hardware being tested by Soldiers at Fort Bliss, Texas. The operational constructs of FCS have been proven on the battlefields of Iraq and soon to be in Afghanistan. Task Force Odin, very successful in OIF against IED threat, uses rudimentarily networked sensors to shooters allowing UAV and sensors data to be transported to the shooter (whether it be air or ground) cumulating in rapid precision fires.  FCS takes this construct to the next level, allowing for instantaneous sensor data to be transported right down to the squad and platoon levels, providing information for those NCOs and platoon leaders to make better informed decisions. Picture a battlefield where a NCO in his HMMWV can have an instant view from his squad’s unmanned air vehicle or unmanned ground vehicle is looking at and then be able to make a decision based on that information.  Now if it’s a situation where that NCO needs a bit of heavy fire power he could share that networked sensor data with supporting fires battalion (Non Line of Sight Cannon or Non Line of Sight Launch System) or even air cover (yes, FCS is testing with Joint Services) —all involved see the same picture/video and can talk (voice, chat, email) in real time about the situation.  I would argue that any battletested veteran would see real benefit in this.Second, let’s talk acquisition strategy. No, its not perfect and yes, as reported, there have been cost increases (based mostly on requirements changes) and yes it is an expensive program—but no it is not the development of a single platform--it is a host of equipment and an entire network, so ultimately more Soldier are getting more equipment for the dollar.  FCS has developed its technologies in an incremental approach, which has allowed for ready capabilities to be tested and evaluated by Soldiers at Fort Bliss. More importantly, it has allowed FCS managers a chance to adapt requirements based on lessons learned from current operations. According to reports, FCS has actually taken some lessons learned from MRAP survivability and added features to its manned ground vehicle fleet. This is a good thing. Wouldn’t a Soldier rather be in a safer vehicle? Arguably the FCS approach has allowed this acquisition program to be responsive to the constantly changing operational environment that the Army finds itself in today—and that will surely continue.Lastly and perhaps the most important point is: Does FCS realistically fit into modernization? Most Army combat vehicles were developed in the early 1970s but have been constantly upgraded ever since. Additionally, some of the Army’s communications network also spawned out of 1970s and 1980s technology. Frankly, our cell phones are more advanced than some capabilities that our Soldiers have today and many cars use more computer line s of code to operate than our most advanced combat vehicles. Would you choose to put your family in a 1980s mini-van with no airbags, no anti-lock brakes, limited computer aided steering and no OnStar or cell phone communications? My guess is no. So why would America settle for putting our sons and daughters in outdated combat vehicles that lack the most current technology? Yes, the vehicles in the fleet today will be around for years to come and the Abrams tank is the most survivable in the world but the Army simply cannot keep upgrading current force vehicles—eventually replacement factors into the equation, both monetarily and capability. Also one must understand that the FCS family of vehicles is not meant to be tank replacements they serve a variety of key battlefield functions and deliver the network to the Soldier. Additionally, reported lessons learned from OIF and OEF have indicated that Soldiers need robots with a clear life cycle management solution. While rapid equipping has worked well, combat veterans have repeatedly asked for a robotics solution that is part of an acquisition cycle—something that can trained on before deployment and sustained once deployed. As part of the Army’s new announced robotics strategy, FCS allows for managed robotics and has Soldiers on prototypes of these robots today working through the very issues that combat veterans have raised.Just food for thought……</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the first time I think this conversation is focused on mostly the right topics:  should FCS exist in its current form, change into something else, or be cancelled. Let’s look at some facts and the current state of the program to allow folks to add to the debate.</p><p>First, probably the most relevant question is: Will FCS capabilities actually help the Warfighter? The answer is yes. True, FCS started as a development program with a construct of “get there first but with great firepower” but current operations and a flexible acquisition strategy (not stovepiped—allowing for requirements changes based on lessons learned and Soldier feedback) have helped the Army focus FCS into a program that is relevant and does offer technological advantages to the Soldier. As reported, the Army made a decision to provide FCS equipment to Soldiers in the Infantry Brigade Combat Teams first and is looking at where FCS will fit into other BCTs.</p><p>Not only is hardware being tested by Soldiers at Fort Bliss, Texas. The operational constructs of FCS have been proven on the battlefields of Iraq and soon to be in Afghanistan. Task Force Odin, very successful in OIF against IED threat, uses rudimentarily networked sensors to shooters allowing UAV and sensors data to be transported to the shooter (whether it be air or ground) cumulating in rapid precision fires.  FCS takes this construct to the next level, allowing for instantaneous sensor data to be transported right down to the squad and platoon levels, providing information for those NCOs and platoon leaders to make better informed decisions. Picture a battlefield where a NCO in his HMMWV can have an instant view from his squad’s unmanned air vehicle or unmanned ground vehicle is looking at and then be able to make a decision based on that information.  Now if it’s a situation where that NCO needs a bit of heavy fire power he could share that networked sensor data with supporting fires battalion (Non Line of Sight Cannon or Non Line of Sight Launch System) or even air cover (yes, FCS is testing with Joint Services) —all involved see the same picture/video and can talk (voice, chat, email) in real time about the situation.  I would argue that any battletested veteran would see real benefit in this.</p><p>Second, let’s talk acquisition strategy. No, its not perfect and yes, as reported, there have been cost increases (based mostly on requirements changes) and yes it is an expensive program—but no it is not the development of a single platform–it is a host of equipment and an entire network, so ultimately more Soldier are getting more equipment for the dollar.  FCS has developed its technologies in an incremental approach, which has allowed for ready capabilities to be tested and evaluated by Soldiers at Fort Bliss. More importantly, it has allowed FCS managers a chance to adapt requirements based on lessons learned from current operations. According to reports, FCS has actually taken some lessons learned from MRAP survivability and added features to its manned ground vehicle fleet. This is a good thing. Wouldn’t a Soldier rather be in a safer vehicle? Arguably the FCS approach has allowed this acquisition program to be responsive to the constantly changing operational environment that the Army finds itself in today—and that will surely continue.</p><p>Lastly and perhaps the most important point is: Does FCS realistically fit into modernization? Most Army combat vehicles were developed in the early 1970s but have been constantly upgraded ever since. Additionally, some of the Army’s communications network also spawned out of 1970s and 1980s technology. Frankly, our cell phones are more advanced than some capabilities that our Soldiers have today and many cars use more computer line s of code to operate than our most advanced combat vehicles. Would you choose to put your family in a 1980s mini-van with no airbags, no anti-lock brakes, limited computer aided steering and no OnStar or cell phone communications? My guess is no. So why would America settle for putting our sons and daughters in outdated combat vehicles that lack the most current technology? Yes, the vehicles in the fleet today will be around for years to come and the Abrams tank is the most survivable in the world but the Army simply cannot keep upgrading current force vehicles—eventually replacement factors into the equation, both monetarily and capability. Also one must understand that the FCS family of vehicles is not meant to be tank replacements they serve a variety of key battlefield functions and deliver the network to the Soldier. Additionally, reported lessons learned from OIF and OEF have indicated that Soldiers need robots with a clear life cycle management solution. While rapid equipping has worked well, combat veterans have repeatedly asked for a robotics solution that is part of an acquisition cycle—something that can trained on before deployment and sustained once deployed. As part of the Army’s new announced robotics strategy, FCS allows for managed robotics and has Soldiers on prototypes of these robots today working through the very issues that combat veterans have raised.</p><p>Just food for thought……</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Militor</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6442</link> <dc:creator>Militor</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:34:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6442</guid> <description>Your gonna need a few guys with tool belts just to keep that thing running. Dust, Mud, sand,ice. That is what sophisticated electronics like more than anything else. Not to mention shock. Yeah, electronics love to be pounded on. &quot;Hey Fred can you go out and clean of the telemetry cosmos rectifier satellite mirror&quot;. &quot;No way Joe, I&#039;m not going out their. We don&#039;t even have a Machine Gun on this thing&quot;. &quot;They told us this was going to be a stand off weapon&quot;. When ever you get a expensive target like this. The enemy wwill simply deploy a CORONET team. This is a two man team. A special little rocket that kills what ever you point it at. Including a M1 Abrams. The new sniper has a Coronet rocket. And they work. It would be very easy to ambush a NLOS gun. They are quite predictable where they need to be to work and fire. Just use a compass and a map. &quot; Hey Abdul&quot;. &quot;What Mohamed&quot;. You wanna go hunt for some NLOS guns?&quot; &quot;Hah too easy&quot;. &quot;Mohamed! Have you even planted any IEDs&#039; today?&quot; Quit being so lazy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your gonna need a few guys with tool belts just to keep that thing running. Dust, Mud, sand,ice.<br /> That is what sophisticated electronics like more than anything else. Not to mention shock. Yeah,<br /> electronics love to be pounded on. “Hey Fred can you go out and clean of the telemetry cosmos rectifier satellite mirror”. “No way Joe, I’m not going out their. We don’t even have a Machine Gun on this thing”. “They told us this was going to be a stand off weapon”. When ever you get a expensive target like this. The enemy wwill simply deploy a CORONET team.<br /> This is a two man team. A special little rocket that kills what ever you point it at. Including a M1 Abrams. The new sniper has a Coronet rocket. And they work. It would be very easy to ambush a NLOS gun. They are quite predictable where they need to be to work and fire. Just use a compass and a map. ” Hey Abdul”. “What Mohamed”. You wanna go hunt for some NLOS guns?” “Hah too easy”. “Mohamed! Have you even planted any IEDs’ today?” Quit being so lazy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: StrykerRadar</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6437</link> <dc:creator>StrykerRadar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6437</guid> <description>Mr. Paladin, how is the NLOS-C worthless in today&#039;s fight?  Can it sit on a FOB and fire in support of troops?  Yep.  Can it fire GPS guided projoes? Yep, has that one cover also. Can it fire counter-btry in support of C-RAM? Yep, got that one also.The real question is this: Can the Paladin do what the NLOS-C does?  Load at any elevation?  Auto-load from the on-board magazine by the push of a button from the Section Chief?  Shoot a Zone 4 msn without dropping the spades?  Drive around the battlefield on just battery power alone?  Can the Paladin send a computer generated PTM to the AFATDS at the PLT/ BTRY FDC, BN FDC, and BDE FECC level saying what&#039;s wrong with it and what maintenance assets it needs?Bottom line:  The NLOS-C and NLOS-M are most advanced parts of FCS that work.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Paladin, how is the NLOS-C worthless in today’s fight?  Can it sit on a FOB and fire in support of troops?  Yep.  Can it fire GPS guided projoes? Yep, has that one cover also.<br /> Can it fire counter-btry in support of C-RAM? Yep, got that one also.</p><p>The real question is this: Can the Paladin do what the NLOS-C does?  Load at any elevation?  Auto-load from the on-board magazine by the push of a button from the Section Chief?  Shoot a Zone 4 msn without dropping the spades?  Drive around the battlefield on just battery power alone?  Can the Paladin send a computer generated PTM to the AFATDS at the PLT/ BTRY FDC, BN FDC, and BDE FECC level saying what’s wrong with it and what maintenance assets it needs?</p><p>Bottom line:  The NLOS-C and NLOS-M are most advanced parts of FCS that work.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Militor</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6436</link> <dc:creator>Militor</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:32:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6436</guid> <description>Who are we suppose to use this thing against? The Army needs to drop this &quot;Everything needs to fit on a C130 idea&quot;. How cute, it fits on a C130. Do you think the Chinese mind if their 200mm guns fit on anything? And I am sure they can jam a wire or Satellite guided projectile in anything that goes bang. Big guns are going to be obsolete in the near future anyway. Flying bombs that are dropped from great altitudes or launched from the air or ground will hover, linger and think. It doesn&#039;t mater the launch source. They will all do the same thing. Blow up stuff you need broken. C130 loads are suppose to be used for quick deployment. How do you use a medium caliber gun that is top secret for forward fire with a unsecured perimeter. This isn&#039;t Viet-Nam anymore.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are we suppose to use this thing against?<br /> The Army needs to drop this “Everything needs to fit on a C130 idea”. How cute, it fits on a C130.<br /> Do you think the Chinese mind if their 200mm guns fit on anything? And I am sure they can jam a wire or Satellite guided projectile in anything that goes bang. Big guns are going to be obsolete<br /> in the near future anyway. Flying bombs that are dropped from great altitudes or launched from the air or ground will hover, linger and think. It doesn’t mater the launch source. They will all do the same thing. Blow up stuff you need broken. C130 loads are suppose to be used for quick deployment. How do you use a medium<br /> caliber gun that is top secret for forward fire with a unsecured perimeter. This isn’t Viet-Nam anymore.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: George</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6431</link> <dc:creator>George</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:55:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6431</guid> <description>There&#039;s nothing wrong with it Stonewall. MLRS was designed for that specific purpose. Guided projectiles with boosters at the base are called MISSLES. They&#039;ve been around in the Army for quite a while. Google it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s nothing wrong with it Stonewall. MLRS was designed for that specific purpose. Guided projectiles with boosters at the base are called MISSLES. They’ve been around in the Army for quite a while. Google it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Texan</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6429</link> <dc:creator>Texan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:24:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6429</guid> <description>Looks like the navy is winning.   We need more submarines and aircraft carriers even though they barely have a mission.How about some more admirals commanding military forces?IMHO the admirals and marine generals should stick to nautical matters and leave military matters to the army.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the navy is winning.   We need more submarines and aircraft carriers even though they barely have a mission.</p><p>How about some more admirals commanding military forces?</p><p>IMHO the admirals and marine generals should stick to nautical matters and leave military matters to the army.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: stonewall</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6427</link> <dc:creator>stonewall</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:29:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6427</guid> <description>What would be wrong with Building a cannon that will fire intelligent ( Radar,or satellite guided) projectiles and have a power assist booster on the base to carry it to a known target at a greater distance (Kind of like a cruse missile). are would that be taking away from the Air force dropping bombs???.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would be wrong with Building a cannon that will fire intelligent ( Radar,or satellite guided) projectiles and have a power assist booster on the base to carry it to a known target at a greater distance (Kind of like a cruse missile). are would that be taking away from the Air force dropping bombs???.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: George</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6403</link> <dc:creator>George</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:43:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6403</guid> <description>I can see the usefulness of a combat system vs. individual combat vehicles. It&#039;s less expensive in the long run. It allows for greater system commonality, interoperability, reduction in training for troops, etc. Those things DO matter in the Pentagon and they matter in the field as well (Ever had your vehicle break down with no spare parts?).I&#039;m a zoomie myself, but my best friend is an FA officer on a Paladin and I can attest to his trials and tribulations. They need a more effective system. I was just under the impression that the various Stryker based vehicles filled that role. Exactly how many full systems does the Army need?Anyway, the basic needs of Army combat vehicles are: Survivability, Lethality, and Reliability. Everything else is secondary. The FCS seems to meet those 3 parameters quite well under the current war fighting doctrine. Will it work if that changes? Say if we enter a conflict with N. Korea? I don&#039;t know... It should, paired up with proper Air and Naval support.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see the usefulness of a combat system vs. individual combat vehicles. It’s less expensive in the long run. It allows for greater system commonality, interoperability, reduction in training for troops, etc. Those things DO matter in the Pentagon and they matter in the field as well (Ever had your vehicle break down with no spare parts?).</p><p>I’m a zoomie myself, but my best friend is an FA officer on a Paladin and I can attest to his trials and tribulations. They need a more effective system. I was just under the impression that the various Stryker based vehicles filled that role. Exactly how many full systems does the Army need?</p><p>Anyway, the basic needs of Army combat vehicles are: Survivability, Lethality, and Reliability. Everything else is secondary. The FCS seems to meet those 3 parameters quite well under the current war fighting doctrine. Will it work if that changes? Say if we enter a conflict with N. Korea? I don’t know… It should, paired up with proper Air and Naval support.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cole</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6399</link> <dc:creator>Cole</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:24:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6399</guid> <description>Recon-team, I was associated with FCS for several years, but don&#039;t post or discuss items that are not common knowledge via the media and Army public affairs websites.I have not been with FCS for 6 months. But I believe. I&#039;ve done a year unaccompanied tour, and know its no fun, let alone in a combat zone...doing 3 or more them like so many are doing while other services with 4-6 month tours and less danger gets all the procurement and base construction bucks.At the motel I&#039;m staying at, I watched an Air Force Colonel leave all his dishes on the table in the dining room after breakfast. He&#039;s the sole military or civilian type that I&#039;ve ever seen do something like that. That exemplifies the I&#039;m-too-good-to-stoop-so-low mentality that too often is the Air Force...resulting in 4 month tours and flying UAS out of Nevada.It&#039;s not right. Yet watch and see who gets all the budget cuts and who keeps the next-war-itis air systems.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recon-team, I was associated with FCS for several years, but don’t post or discuss items that are not common knowledge via the media and Army public affairs websites.</p><p>I have not been with FCS for 6 months. But I believe. I’ve done a year unaccompanied tour, and know its no fun, let alone in a combat zone…doing 3 or more them like so many are doing while other services with 4–6 month tours and less danger gets all the procurement and base construction bucks.</p><p>At the motel I’m staying at, I watched an Air Force Colonel leave all his dishes on the table in the dining room after breakfast. He’s the sole military or civilian type that I’ve ever seen do something like that. That exemplifies the I’m-too-good-to-stoop-so-low mentality that too often is the Air Force…resulting in 4 month tours and flying UAS out of Nevada.</p><p>It’s not right. Yet watch and see who gets all the budget cuts and who keeps the next-war-itis air systems.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cole</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6398</link> <dc:creator>Cole</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:06:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6398</guid> <description>Mr. Paladin,As your system accompanies its supported BCT, do you think there&#039;s a chance Mr. Insurgent might pop out and launch a RPG at ya? That sure will be a big bang with all those rounds on board.Now in another theater, you launch rounds down range and get counterbattery top attack smart munitions in return or massed rocket fire. Uh oh.Brian, same scenario with counterbattery. You may be able to lift the M-777 with a Chinook, but not the truck that pulls it to shoot and scoot. Heck, they don&#039;t need a smart counterbattery munition to take you and your truck out. You&#039;re sitting still or didn&#039;t get far by the time you hooked that puppy up to the truck.Brian, you need NLOS-mortar for responsive battalion fires and to avoid depleting BCT-support NLOS-Cannon rounds when not necessary. You need NLOS-Launch System for precision targeting at ranges beyond the NLOS-Cannon and Mortar. NLOS-Launch system is also a great early deployment system until the big boys arrive that can withstand an RPG and top attack, and move about the battlefield with the same mobility as the supported BCT.NLOS-Launch system missiles can also be placed inside a small combat outpost perimeter. When used with laser-designation capabilities of the Class I UAS, every company has a precision fires capability.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Paladin,</p><p>As your system accompanies its supported BCT, do you think there’s a chance Mr. Insurgent might pop out and launch a RPG at ya? That sure will be a big bang with all those rounds on board.</p><p>Now in another theater, you launch rounds down range and get counterbattery top attack smart munitions in return or massed rocket fire. Uh oh.</p><p>Brian, same scenario with counterbattery. You may be able to lift the M-777 with a Chinook, but not the truck that pulls it to shoot and scoot. Heck, they don’t need a smart counterbattery munition to take you and your truck out. You’re sitting still or didn’t get far by the time you hooked that puppy up to the truck.</p><p>Brian, you need NLOS-mortar for responsive battalion fires and to avoid depleting BCT-support NLOS-Cannon rounds when not necessary. You need NLOS-Launch System for precision targeting at ranges beyond the NLOS-Cannon and Mortar. NLOS-Launch system is also a great early deployment system until the big boys arrive that can withstand an RPG and top attack, and move about the battlefield with the same mobility as the supported BCT.</p><p>NLOS-Launch system missiles can also be placed inside a small combat outpost perimeter. When used with laser-designation capabilities of the Class I UAS, every company has a precision fires capability.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DensityDuck</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6395</link> <dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:56:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6395</guid> <description>mike:  oh, please.   Far worse things have been written about V-22.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike:  oh, please.   Far worse things have been written about V-22.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Armywonk</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6393</link> <dc:creator>Armywonk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:34:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6393</guid> <description>Mr. Paladin,The M109A6 Paladin is capable of firing up to four rounds per minute to ranges of 30 kilometers while NLOS-C can fire six rounds per minute and has an equivalent range, not too mention that NLOS-C requires less crew and is more accurate.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Paladin,</p><p>The M109A6 Paladin is capable of firing up to four rounds per minute to ranges of 30 kilometers while NLOS-C can fire six rounds per minute and has an equivalent range, not too mention that NLOS-C requires less crew and is more accurate.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mr Paladin</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6392</link> <dc:creator>Mr Paladin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:31:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6392</guid> <description>I loved the discussion and demonstrated lack of knowlege in these postings. The amount of misinformation in the general public is amazing. But, a few of the facts did come out. B52 Bombers, M1 Tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles will all continue long after FCS dies, why? Because the Army can&#039;t afford to replace them all, never will, especially in today&#039;s financial climate. As for NLOS-C, it&#039;s a great concept, but if fielded will be worthless in today&#039;s fight. By the way the M109A6 Paladin demostrated in 1993 and 4 round simultaneous impact capability, and will still out range any NLOS-C vehicle.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the discussion and demonstrated lack of knowlege in these postings. The amount of misinformation in the general public is amazing. But, a few of the facts did come out. B52 Bombers, M1 Tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles will all continue long after FCS dies, why? Because the Army can’t afford to replace them all, never will, especially in today’s financial climate. As for NLOS-C, it’s a great concept, but if fielded will be worthless in today’s fight. By the way the M109A6 Paladin demostrated in 1993 and 4 round simultaneous impact capability, and will still out range any NLOS-C vehicle.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Reid</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/03/24/fcs-vehicle-kill-mulled-savings-small-for-2010/#comment-6391</link> <dc:creator>Reid</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:48:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5208#comment-6391</guid> <description>NLOS-C should be kept if for no other reason than to demonstrate the effectiveness of band track/hybrid drive propulsion which could have huge implications for improving many of our armored vehicles.  Having something that can fill the coverage gap between mortars and GMLRS is important and Paladin is getting old.  So OK Keep NLOS-C, but as for the rest of it, c&#039;mon. Everyone knows FCS was started during the cold war as an evolutionary &quot;system of systems&quot; to fight the Russians.  Like many similar efforts the defense contractors continue to grasp at relevancy in a changed world to justify the expense.  Meanwhile what we NEED is lighter body armor and more effective small arms.  As for air power, lets shift some of that FCS money into armoring our helos to increase their survivability against RPG&#039;s and 7.62x54R and buying Hughes MD530N to replace the ARH70.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NLOS-C should be kept if for no other reason than to demonstrate the effectiveness of band track/hybrid drive propulsion which could have huge implications for improving many of our armored vehicles.  Having something that can fill the coverage gap between mortars and GMLRS is important and Paladin is getting old.  So OK Keep NLOS-C, but as for the rest of it, c’mon.<br /> Everyone knows FCS was started during the cold war as an evolutionary “system of systems” to fight the Russians.  Like many similar efforts the defense contractors continue to grasp at relevancy in a changed world to justify the expense.  Meanwhile what we NEED is lighter body armor and more effective small arms.  As for air power, lets shift some of that FCS money into armoring our helos to increase their survivability against RPG’s and 7.62x54R and buying Hughes MD530N to replace the ARH70.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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