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> <channel><title>Comments on: Ground Forces Sag Under Combat Load</title> <atom:link href="http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/</link> <description>Online Defense and Acquisition Journal</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:37:13 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: paul davis</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-12839</link> <dc:creator>paul davis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:37:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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Walter A</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello paul!<br
/> Walter A</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Propblast6</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7774</link> <dc:creator>Propblast6</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 13:39:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7774</guid> <description>The ground combat forces have been gutted since the &quot;end&quot; of the Cold War. The waste and fraud perpetrated against the Defense Department has eaten up needed funds.Both the Army and the Marine Corps were guilty of stupidity when they thought that they would never have to fight another &quot;counter insurgency&quot; campaign again. Never underestimate your opponents they are not as inept and ignorant as you think they are. Our potential enemies have learned the lessons of Vietnam, Panama, Granada, Desert Storm, the Balkans and Somalia very well. They learned this particular lesson most of all: YOU DO NOT GET INTO A CONVENTIONAL WAR WITH THE UNITED STATES MILITARY THE WILL HURT YOU VERY BADLY.Can some one explain why the Republic of South Africa had armored mine proofed logistical vehicles before the United States? By the way the MRAP was designed by a South African. Our troops were stuck with up-armored HUMVEEs which are no more thought out than the modernized version of the World War One Rolls Royce Armored Cars used by the Royal Naval Air Service of the period and a not well thought out one at that. I think that you would all be shocked to know that in the 1970s the old Rhodesian Armored Corps had a Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicle built on a Land Rover chassis that was superior to the up-armored HUMVEEs.For Bambooviper I am a Vietnam veteran and I know where a few bodies are buried. When you talk about George Bush please talk about Lyndon Baines Johnson. There was a light observation helicopter project in those days to replace the old H-13. The two contenders were the Bell Jet Ranger and the Hughes Cayuse. The air crews preferred the Hughes Cayuse because it was safer in a crash but the Bell Jet Ranger was chosen because Bell Helicopters was based in Texas. By the way the aircrews referred to the  Bell Jet Ranger as the Death Ranger because we felt it was not as crash survivable as the Hughes Cayuse. I was there and I know.In the Post September 11 World our enemies are using classic guerilla tactics because.they work.People you need to read history!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ground combat forces have been gutted since the “end” of the Cold War. The waste and fraud perpetrated against the Defense Department has eaten up needed funds.</p><p>Both the Army and the Marine Corps were guilty of stupidity when they thought that they would never have to fight another “counter insurgency” campaign again. Never underestimate your opponents they are not as inept and ignorant as you think they are. Our potential enemies have learned the lessons of Vietnam, Panama, Granada, Desert Storm, the Balkans and Somalia very well. They learned this particular lesson most of all: YOU DO NOT GET INTO A CONVENTIONAL WAR WITH THE UNITED STATES MILITARY THE WILL HURT YOU VERY BADLY.</p><p>Can some one explain why the Republic of South Africa had armored mine proofed logistical vehicles before the United States? By the way the MRAP was designed by a South African. Our troops were stuck with up-armored HUMVEEs which are no more thought out than the modernized version of the World War One Rolls Royce Armored Cars used by the Royal Naval Air Service of the period and a not well thought out one at that. I think that you would all be shocked to know that in the 1970s the old Rhodesian Armored Corps had a Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicle built on a Land Rover chassis that was superior to the up-armored HUMVEEs.</p><p>For Bambooviper I am a Vietnam veteran and I know where a few bodies are buried. When you talk about George Bush please talk about Lyndon Baines Johnson. There was a light observation helicopter project in those days to replace the old H-13. The two contenders were the Bell Jet Ranger and the Hughes Cayuse. The air crews preferred the Hughes Cayuse because it was safer in a crash but the Bell Jet Ranger was chosen because Bell Helicopters was based in Texas. By the way the aircrews referred to the  Bell Jet Ranger as the Death Ranger because we felt it was not as crash survivable as the Hughes Cayuse. I was there and I know.</p><p>In the Post September 11 World our enemies are using classic guerilla tactics because.they work.</p><p>People you need to read history!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eddie</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7552</link> <dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:58:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7552</guid> <description>Bamboo is right we should have reacted to Sept 11 just like Clinton did. He did absolutely nothing. Bush was an idiot but he did what Clinton should have done.BTW BAMBOO Nams been over a long time now.  Time for you to get over it and realize the Dems sold you out both there and back home. Now Pelosi, Clinto and berry are selling out our soldiers. Nothings changed. Rich Democrats get richer and Dem Politicians stay in power.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bamboo is right we should have reacted to Sept 11 just like Clinton did. He did absolutely nothing. Bush was an idiot but he did what Clinton should have done.</p><p>BTW BAMBOO Nams been over a long time now.  Time for you to get over it and realize the Dems sold you out both there and back home. Now Pelosi, Clinto and berry are selling out our soldiers. Nothings changed. Rich Democrats get richer and Dem Politicians stay in power.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hock</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7549</link> <dc:creator>Hock</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:19:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7549</guid> <description>let&#039;s get real... We the people the people who this country was found by and for have dropped the ball. Way to many of us piss an moan but don&#039;t show up to vote and MAKE this Great Country be all it could be. We&#039;ve let the rich and unjust ruin our country by letting them get into and stay in office when we know most only care about themselves.  The ones we think are on our side find out when they get in office that it&#039;s easier to go with the flow and get what they can and to hell with right or wrong.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let’s get real… We the people the people who this country was found by and for have dropped the ball. Way to many of us piss an moan but don’t show up to vote and MAKE this Great Country be all it could be. We’ve let the rich and unjust ruin our country by letting them get into and stay in office when we know most only care about themselves.  The ones we think are on our side find out when they get in office that it’s easier to go with the flow and get what they can and to hell with right or wrong.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JSing</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7545</link> <dc:creator>JSing</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:34:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7545</guid> <description>&quot;bbitaliano81 April 23rd, 2009 at 10:03 amYeah Thanx to Dubya &amp; Co, we haven’t had another attack in seven years. That’s what happens when you take the fight to the enemy.&quot;Your so quick to justify the bush era but lets face the facts for a minute....attack on 9/11; Saddam Hussein wasn&#039;t responsible remember; so Bush started a war on the premise he would bring &quot;Bin Laden&quot; his old oil buddy to justice for 9/11 and what happened? We catch Saddam instead, give him back to his people and they hang him; bush&amp;co. get filthy rich and Americans suffer, democrats and republicans alike, and for those in washington who don&#039;t like Obama and what he is doing, I say to hell with ya; &#039;cause obviously your priorities are screwed and your agenda is all about your own wallet, which need not be said is FAT to begin with...great job, really!!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“bbitaliano81 April 23rd, 2009 at 10:03 am</p><p>Yeah Thanx to Dubya &amp; Co, we haven’t had another attack in seven years. That’s what happens when you take the fight to the enemy.”</p><p>Your so quick to justify the bush era but lets face the facts for a minute.…attack on 9/11; Saddam Hussein wasn’t responsible remember; so Bush started a war on the premise he would bring “Bin Laden” his old oil buddy to justice for 9/11 and what happened? We catch Saddam instead, give him back to his people and they hang him; bush&amp;co. get filthy rich and Americans suffer, democrats and republicans alike, and for those in washington who don’t like Obama and what he is doing, I say to hell with ya; ’cause obviously your priorities are screwed and your agenda is all about your own wallet, which need not be said is FAT to begin with…great job, really!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Josh Raymer</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7542</link> <dc:creator>Josh Raymer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:50:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7542</guid> <description>How can you left wingers say stuff like this, what do you do for a living? Our marines and soldiers do the most dangerous job in the world while fighting for your freedom and security which you don&#039;t even appreciate. No wonder there are increased suicides and substance abuse cases. Our war heros come home to a bunch of democrats who hate us.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you left wingers say stuff like this, what do you do for a living? Our marines and soldiers do the most dangerous job in the world while fighting for your freedom and security which you don’t even appreciate. No wonder there are increased suicides and substance abuse cases. Our war heros come home to a bunch of democrats who hate us.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bbitaliano81</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7534</link> <dc:creator>bbitaliano81</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:03:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7534</guid> <description>Yeah Thanx to Dubya &amp; Co, we haven&#039;t had another attack in seven years. That&#039;s what happens when you take the fight to the enemy. For liberal idiots like you who think we live in a utopia, I know that&#039;s hard for you to comprehend. But don&#039;t worry the new strategy of dismarming and apoligizing to third world dictators is going to make everything better.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Thanx to Dubya &amp; Co, we haven’t had another attack in seven years. That’s what happens when you take the fight to the enemy. For liberal idiots like you who think we live in a utopia, I know that’s hard for you to comprehend. But don’t worry the new strategy of dismarming and apoligizing to third world dictators is going to make everything better.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rhyno327</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7525</link> <dc:creator>Rhyno327</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:08:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7525</guid> <description>BAMBOOVIPER, couldn&#039;t have said it better myself. Kudos to you, Sir. All the big money programs that have been cut, that money will be spent on wat they need now. We must get this over with ASAP, since we have been at war since 9/11. Thanx Dubya&amp;Co, you really did well-for YOURSELVES.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BAMBOOVIPER, couldn’t have said it better myself. Kudos to you, Sir. All the big money programs that have been cut, that money will be spent on wat they need now. We must get this over with ASAP, since we have been at war since 9/11. Thanx Dubya&amp;Co, you really did well-for YOURSELVES.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ErnestPayne</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7516</link> <dc:creator>ErnestPayne</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:58:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7516</guid> <description>Denying oil to China, a desire for a strategic repositioning from Saudi Arabia, and morons trying to shock and awe the world with the power of America have resulted in a massive Pyrrhic victory. And no it wasn&#039;t &quot;the Jews&quot; it was fundamentalist Christians dancing to the Israeli orchestra. Another massive unintended side effect of the Bush regime.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denying oil to China, a desire for a strategic repositioning from Saudi Arabia, and morons trying to shock and awe the world with the power of America have resulted in a massive Pyrrhic victory. And no it wasn’t “the Jews” it was fundamentalist Christians dancing to the Israeli orchestra. Another massive unintended side effect of the Bush regime.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DensityDuck</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7495</link> <dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:03:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7495</guid> <description>bambooviper, you forgot to blame the Jews.  Surely they were involved somehow.   You get bonus points for mis-spelling &quot;surplus&quot;, though.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bambooviper, you forgot to blame the Jews.  Surely they were involved somehow.   You get bonus points for mis-spelling “surplus”, though.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bambooviper</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7492</link> <dc:creator>bambooviper</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:53:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7492</guid> <description>This is what happens when you chase your tail. Iraq did nothing to us and was not a worry to us. But there was a profit for big oil which you made us pay cause of the way you voted. Bush dumped all the money in his friends laps and he spent the serplus and ran us in debt. I guess todays arm forces that say they are defending this country could ask the government to pay them 11 cents an hour like the troops in Nam. Or only keep the ones that don&#039;t cry doing the job they signed for. One thing is for sure, this administration won&#039;t fly a false flag so I&#039;m sure we have nothing to worry about.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what happens when you chase your tail. Iraq did nothing to us and was not a worry to us. But there was a profit for big oil which you made us pay cause of the way you voted. Bush dumped all the money in his friends laps and he spent the serplus and ran us in debt. I guess todays arm forces that say they are defending this country could ask the government to pay them 11 cents an hour like the troops in Nam. Or only keep the ones that don’t cry doing the job they signed for. One thing is for sure, this administration won’t fly a false flag so I’m sure we have nothing to worry about.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Grunt</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7480</link> <dc:creator>Grunt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:29:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7480</guid> <description>Welcome to the real world, President Obama.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the real world, President Obama.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jerry</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/04/22/ground-forces-sag-under-combat-load/comment-page-1/#comment-7469</link> <dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:11:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=5926#comment-7469</guid> <description>Short aircraft?Over 140 V-22s have now been delivered to the Marine Corps, so they now outnumber the CH-46Es still in service. The 10 they have used as airplanes operating from airbases in Iraq are now worn out and have been withdrawn. They dispatched a Navy ship (LHD) from Norfolk to retrieve them, since they couldn&#039;t fly home. Ten V-22s were supposed to deploy aboard ship last November with the 26th MEU(SOC), but pre-deployment exercises prompted the Corps to cancel that idea at the last moment. Ten V-22 did deploy aboard ship with the 22nd MEU this month. There is no news on how they are performing, but note that the 22nd MEU is not a MEU(SOC) since it failed to demonstrate that it was (Special Operations Capable) during pre-deployment training. It was only the second MEU to fail such certification since the SOC concept began two decades ago.
Despite all the sales pitches earlier this year about how Marines and V-22 will dominate the battlefield in Afghanistan, it was learned last month that none will deploy with the 8000-man 2nd MEB. This means there are only 10 of 140 V-22s deployed overseas, whereas half the remaining CH-46s remain committed to units in Iraq, Afghanistan, Okinawa, and aboard ships. They throw out the &quot;new&quot; aircraft excuse for this, but the V-22 first flew in 1989 and went into production in 1999.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short aircraft?</p><p>Over 140 V-22s have now been delivered to the Marine Corps, so they now outnumber the CH-46Es still in service. The 10 they have used as airplanes operating from airbases in Iraq are now worn out and have been withdrawn. They dispatched a Navy ship (LHD) from Norfolk to retrieve them, since they couldn’t fly home. Ten V-22s were supposed to deploy aboard ship last November with the 26th MEU(SOC), but pre-deployment exercises prompted the Corps to cancel that idea at the last moment. Ten V-22 did deploy aboard ship with the 22nd MEU this month. There is no news on how they are performing, but note that the 22nd MEU is not a MEU(SOC) since it failed to demonstrate that it was (Special Operations Capable) during pre-deployment training. It was only the second MEU to fail such certification since the SOC concept began two decades ago.<br
/> Despite all the sales pitches earlier this year about how Marines and V-22 will dominate the battlefield in Afghanistan, it was learned last month that none will deploy with the 8000-man 2nd MEB. This means there are only 10 of 140 V-22s deployed overseas, whereas half the remaining CH-46s remain committed to units in Iraq, Afghanistan, Okinawa, and aboard ships. They throw out the “new” aircraft excuse for this, but the V-22 first flew in 1989 and went into production in 1999.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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