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> <channel><title>Comments on: Drones Hardly Ever Kill Bad Guys</title> <atom:link href="http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/</link> <description>Online Defense and Acquisition Journal</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:17:44 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Dean</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10678</link> <dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:08:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10678</guid> <description>The use of drones is even better than the Milgram Experiment in that the button-pusher never hears nor sees his victims.  Why have any qualms about pushing a button and destroying a village if you never see the carnage and home is still a 30 minute drive on the Beltway.In some respects Lt. Calley is more forgivable.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The use of drones is even better than the Milgram Experiment in that the button-pusher never hears nor sees his victims.  Why have any qualms about pushing a button and destroying a village if you never see the carnage and home is still a 30 minute drive on the Beltway.</p><p>In some respects Lt. Calley is more forgivable.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dean</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10655</link> <dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:41:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10655</guid> <description>Alex, I beg to differ.  The DoD developed 1000Kg JDAMs prior to Shock &amp; Awe with every intention of using them on cities and they did.  Delivering a 1000Kg munition very precisely does reduce the ratio of unintended to intended killed, but does not reduce the probability of innocent civilians being killed.The 1000Kg JDAM has a kill radius of some 500+ meters.  You probably live in suburbs, but most of the world lives in dense cities, like Baghdad, or New York.  Even hitting the correct building with 1000Kg of hi explosives subjects those living in adjacent buildings to the carnage.In 1940, the Germans carpet bomed London and killed civilians at the rate of 365/day in a campaign of terror -- Shock &amp; Awe killed civilians at 385/day with precision munitions.&quot; there is certainly nothing out there to substantiate your ridiculous claim.&quot;  Except the story to which we are commenting.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, I beg to differ.  The DoD developed 1000Kg JDAMs prior to Shock &amp; Awe with every intention of using them on cities and they did.  Delivering a 1000Kg munition very precisely does reduce the ratio of unintended to intended killed, but does not reduce the probability of innocent civilians being killed.</p><p>The 1000Kg JDAM has a kill radius of some 500+ meters.  You probably live in suburbs, but most of the world lives in dense cities, like Baghdad, or New York.  Even hitting the correct building with 1000Kg of hi explosives subjects those living in adjacent buildings to the carnage.</p><p>In 1940, the Germans carpet bomed London and killed civilians at the rate of 365/day in a campaign of terror — Shock &amp; Awe killed civilians at 385/day with precision munitions.</p><p>” there is certainly nothing out there to substantiate your ridiculous claim.”  Except the story to which we are commenting.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10602</link> <dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:09:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10602</guid> <description>Dean, the DoD has been developing weapons to minimize civilian casualties since way before Shock &amp; Awe, and despite the fact that the killing process is becoming more dispassionate, we worry more about civilian casualties every day.  All of the drone tech in the world won&#039;t make us LESS averse to killing civilians, and there is certainly nothing out there to substantiate your ridiculous claim.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean, the DoD has been developing weapons to minimize civilian casualties since way before Shock &amp; Awe, and despite the fact that the killing process is becoming more dispassionate, we worry more about civilian casualties every day.  All of the drone tech in the world won’t make us LESS averse to killing civilians, and there is certainly nothing out there to substantiate your ridiculous claim.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dean</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10599</link> <dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:07:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10599</guid> <description>One note of good news is that AFTER Shock &amp; Awe, the DoD sought to develope a 1/4Kg JDAM to reduced collateral damage.1/8Kg would be better.Much more descretion would be best.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One note of good news is that AFTER Shock &amp; Awe, the DoD sought to develope a 1/4Kg JDAM to reduced collateral damage.</p><p>1/8Kg would be better.</p><p>Much more descretion would be best.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dean</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10597</link> <dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:03:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10597</guid> <description>Zabernism goes high tech.  As the technology of killing becomes more and more dispassionate, so do those wielding the power.  At some point, for all her wonderful ideals, America will become universially hated.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zabernism goes high tech.  As the technology of killing becomes more and more dispassionate, so do those wielding the power.  At some point, for all her wonderful ideals, America will become universially hated.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Davidxxx</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10581</link> <dc:creator>Davidxxx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:13:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10581</guid> <description>The Art of War is very clear about winning the hearts of minds of the populous.  Indiscriminate killing of non-combatants will rally the enemy and give them the moral advantage.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Art of War is very clear about winning the hearts of minds of the populous.  Indiscriminate killing of non-combatants will rally the enemy and give them the moral advantage.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Phil</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10560</link> <dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:14:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10560</guid> <description>Where is ben Ladin?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is ben Ladin?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Amy</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10524</link> <dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:51:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10524</guid> <description>Many in the military seem to think that those of us against war are simply knee-jerk jerks against all combat.  That&#039;s not true, many of us are very aware that we need soldiers on our side, as long as their are soldiers (or terrorists) on their side.  BUT we are completely against &quot;collateral damage&quot; and mystified/shamed that our &quot;leaders&quot; don&#039;t seem to mind that so much. Why isn&#039;t it OBVIOUS that it&#039;s impossible to win hearts and minds when we&#039;re killing their grandmothers?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many in the military seem to think that those of us against war are simply knee-jerk jerks against all combat.  That’s not true, many of us are very aware that we need soldiers on our side, as long as their are soldiers (or terrorists) on their side.  BUT we are completely against “collateral damage” and mystified/shamed that our “leaders” don’t seem to mind that so much. Why isn’t it OBVIOUS that it’s impossible to win hearts and minds when we’re killing their grandmothers?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10432</link> <dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:40:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10432</guid> <description>imran, I don&#039;t think you understand the size of the U.S. economy in relation to how much we are spending on the war in Afghanistan.  It is a drop in the bucket, and has little or no bearing on how our economy is doing.  If we stopped spending money in Iraq and Afghanistan tomorrow, nothing would change here domestically, except maybe our administration would use that money to help ram through a health care bill that would do even more damage to our economy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imran, I don’t think you understand the size of the U.S. economy in relation to how much we are spending on the war in Afghanistan.  It is a drop in the bucket, and has little or no bearing on how our economy is doing.  If we stopped spending money in Iraq and Afghanistan tomorrow, nothing would change here domestically, except maybe our administration would use that money to help ram through a health care bill that would do even more damage to our economy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10430</link> <dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:36:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10430</guid> <description>^lol!  Hugo?  Mahmoud?  Vladimir?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^lol!  Hugo?  Mahmoud?  Vladimir?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DensityDuck</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10354</link> <dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:39:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10354</guid> <description>jim:  Well, of course!  Obviously we must act immediately to contain the menace of Canadian bear infiltration.  If we don&#039;t act now we&#039;ll wake up one morning to find a grizzly bear in our bed!  WE MUST BE ETERNALLY VIGILANT AGAINST THE URSINE MENACE!imran:  We wrecked our own economy just fine without any help from the Pakistanis...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jim:  Well, of course!  Obviously we must act immediately to contain the menace of Canadian bear infiltration.  If we don’t act now we’ll wake up one morning to find a grizzly bear in our bed!  WE MUST BE ETERNALLY VIGILANT AGAINST THE URSINE MENACE!</p><p>imran:  We wrecked our own economy just fine without any help from the Pakistanis…</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: imran kaka</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-10348</link> <dc:creator>imran kaka</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:58:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-10348</guid> <description>Whats going to happen is that the US economy will completely be wrecked fighting this useless war. The Waziris will keep adapting to the drone attacks and launching attacks on ISAF and the worthless Americans, meantime the Pakistani govt. will keep getting American tax payer dollars, and the us economy will go to shreds. Just wait a couple of years more.  Case Closed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats going to happen is that the US economy will completely be wrecked fighting this useless war. The Waziris will keep adapting to the drone attacks and launching attacks on ISAF and the worthless Americans, meantime the Pakistani govt. will keep getting American tax payer dollars, and the us economy will go to shreds. Just wait a couple of years more.  Case Closed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jim</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-8693</link> <dc:creator>jim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 20:41:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-8693</guid> <description>UAV&#039;s don&#039;t kill people, people kill people...and sometimes bears.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UAV’s don’t kill people, people kill people…and sometimes bears.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alvi</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-8490</link> <dc:creator>Alvi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:45:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-8490</guid> <description>True. The same will most probably go for USA unless her politicians change the policy fast. Obama seems like a sensible person in office for now, and i bet he has the withdrawing of troops, and signings of peace treaties in mind.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. The same will most probably go for USA unless her politicians change the policy fast. Obama seems like a sensible person in office for now, and i bet he has the withdrawing of troops, and signings of peace treaties in mind.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: elgatoso</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-8488</link> <dc:creator>elgatoso</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:36:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-8488</guid> <description>With respect a man in the cockpit,we use remoted controled aircraft,the man is still in the cockpit .We gonna get a man in the cockpit at least for 50 years more IMHO because the tech for terminators only exist in Hollywood.I know that some day we gonna be there but no yet</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect a man in the cockpit,we use remoted controled aircraft,the man is still in the cockpit .We gonna get a man in the cockpit at least for 50 years more IMHO because the tech for terminators only exist in Hollywood.I know that some day we gonna be there but no yet</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: elgatoso</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-8487</link> <dc:creator>elgatoso</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:27:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-8487</guid> <description>Alvi,the afghans are a strong race of warriors.If you look at the history they defeat
the British Empire,the Ussr,and even Alexander the Great. They fight for generations and you don&#039;t have the knowledge of the maze of mountain ranges that they have.I strongly agreed with you that anybody can defeat them in his territory and when you put a outsider they make a jihad.The taliban was defeated by the norther alliance when was afghans against afghans.In the moment we put troops in the field we were doomed</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alvi,the afghans are a strong race of warriors.If you look at the history they defeat<br
/> the British Empire,the Ussr,and even Alexander the Great. They fight for generations and you don’t have the knowledge of the maze of mountain ranges that they have.I strongly agreed with you that anybody can defeat them in his territory and when you put a outsider they make a jihad.The taliban was defeated by the norther alliance when was afghans against afghans.In the moment we put troops in the field we were doomed</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alvi</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-8482</link> <dc:creator>Alvi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 12:50:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-8482</guid> <description>Agreed with Nikoli.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with Nikoli.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alvi</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-8481</link> <dc:creator>Alvi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 12:06:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-8481</guid> <description>http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/lofiversion/index.php/t81906.htmlhttp://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21440I found two sources to some what support the above story. Haven&#039;t heard of &quot;Pakistan Defence&quot; forum before so cant say much about its credibility. But The News is a very prestigious Pakistan based English newspaper, and I cant deny what it reports that easily. Both the above  links state that the US Drone accuracy has been less than 6%. Not 2% as stated above, but still, 6% is also very low. Lets assume for argument&#039;s sake that this source is very much biased too, but even if it is, i cant see how the accuracy of Drone attacks can still be more than, say 15% as an estimate. Which again is too low. Its not really working out too well is it?And about this entire Afghan-America war, lets just look at the history and then look at the odds. Afghanistan was founded in 1747, and we know The East India company backed by the British Empire took over much off the India and neighboring countries. British Empire was the super power of that time, just like America is now. Very strong, and virtually unbeatable. East India company also had state of the art artillery at the time, very much powerful compared to the Afghan artillery. Through out the Company Raj, the British Empire made several attempts to take over Afghanistan. They made continues effort between 18th and 19th century, and failed each time. Finally, the only way they they found to restore peace in the area was to sign a treaty with the Afghans, which they did.
Compare this to the current situation. USA has much better weaponry than the British Empire had at the time, but so does Afghans. USA has been trying to gain complete control of Afghanistan for years now, and its still trying. Afghans are a weird nation. they just don&#039;t stop. They are persistent, i have to give them that. And they are guerrilla fighters, and guerrilla fighters can never be defeated by air strikes. You need to get down in the mountains to take them out, but even Russia couldn&#039;t get out of their complex terrain once it decided to enter it, its a maze of mountain ranges. They know it best, no one else outside does. The only prediction i can personally make about this whole thing is, its going to end just like it ended with the British Empire. We might, hopefully soon, see USA and Talibans sign a treaty of peace and go their own ways, cause no one has ever defeated Afghanis before no matter how strong. America seems no exception by the way things are going.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/lofiversion/index.php/t81906.html" rel="nofollow">http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/lofiversion/index.php/t81906.html</a></p><p><a
href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21440" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21440</a></p><p>I found two sources to some what support the above story. Haven’t heard of “Pakistan Defence” forum before so cant say much about its credibility. But The News is a very prestigious Pakistan based English newspaper, and I cant deny what it reports that easily. Both the above  links state that the US Drone accuracy has been less than 6%. Not 2% as stated above, but still, 6% is also very low. Lets assume for argument’s sake that this source is very much biased too, but even if it is, i cant see how the accuracy of Drone attacks can still be more than, say 15% as an estimate. Which again is too low. Its not really working out too well is it?</p><p>And about this entire Afghan-America war, lets just look at the history and then look at the odds. Afghanistan was founded in 1747, and we know The East India company backed by the British Empire took over much off the India and neighboring countries. British Empire was the super power of that time, just like America is now. Very strong, and virtually unbeatable. East India company also had state of the art artillery at the time, very much powerful compared to the Afghan artillery. Through out the Company Raj, the British Empire made several attempts to take over Afghanistan. They made continues effort between 18th and 19th century, and failed each time. Finally, the only way they they found to restore peace in the area was to sign a treaty with the Afghans, which they did.<br
/> Compare this to the current situation. USA has much better weaponry than the British Empire had at the time, but so does Afghans. USA has been trying to gain complete control of Afghanistan for years now, and its still trying. Afghans are a weird nation. they just don’t stop. They are persistent, i have to give them that. And they are guerrilla fighters, and guerrilla fighters can never be defeated by air strikes. You need to get down in the mountains to take them out, but even Russia couldn’t get out of their complex terrain once it decided to enter it, its a maze of mountain ranges. They know it best, no one else outside does. The only prediction i can personally make about this whole thing is, its going to end just like it ended with the British Empire. We might, hopefully soon, see USA and Talibans sign a treaty of peace and go their own ways, cause no one has ever defeated Afghanis before no matter how strong. America seems no exception by the way things are going.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jake</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-8407</link> <dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:16:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-8407</guid> <description>All of us must not forget that once somebody is dead in the vicinity of a US air strike the corpse is automatically an &quot;Innocent Civilian&quot; even if they are a male 16-35 years old in terrific physical shape with clear pack strap marks across their shoulders.  And the bad guys do deliberately bring in unwilling actual civilians or site themselves among unknowing civilians.Learned this the hard way in the counterinsurgency business on two continents.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of us must not forget that once somebody is dead in the vicinity of a US air strike the corpse is automatically an “Innocent Civilian” even if they are a male 16–35 years old in terrific physical shape with clear pack strap marks across their shoulders.  And the bad guys do deliberately bring in unwilling actual civilians or site themselves among unknowing civilians.</p><p>Learned this the hard way in the counterinsurgency business on two continents.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: louatsea</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/11/drones-hardly-ever-kill-bad-guys/comment-page-2/#comment-8403</link> <dc:creator>louatsea</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:29:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6336#comment-8403</guid> <description>Two comments from an old Navy guy whose service was long ago:(1) About 50 years ago the great cartoonist &amp; Pulitzer Prize winner Bill Mauldin(creator of &quot;Willie and Joe&quot; - WWII GI&#039;s)published an editorial cartoon.  The cartoon showed a young jet jockey sitting dejectedly beneath his jet aircraft holding a newspaper with a headline reading &quot; Missles Make Manned Aircraft Obsolete&quot;.  Standing next to the pilot was a dog-face GI looking sympathetically at the pilot and sayiny &quot;That&#039;s OK kid, I&#039;ve been obsolete for 40 years now!&quot;2) The late LCOL John Paul Vann, before he had his troubles,  actually gave briefings on a successful strategy in Viet Nam, which was depicted in dramatic fashion in an old TV movie made from  Neil Sheehan&#039;s book about Vann - &quot;A Bright, Shining Lie&quot;.  In the briefing when Vann would discuss prevailing in counterinsurgency warfare he would say when fighting your enemy use this - and hold up a bayonet - not this - and then show a slide of a flight of B-52&#039;s dropping iron bombs (although, truth be told, the latter were effective against massed formations of NVA infantry).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two comments from an old Navy guy whose service was long ago:</p><p>(1) About 50 years ago the great cartoonist &amp; Pulitzer Prize winner Bill Mauldin(creator of “Willie and Joe” — WWII GI’s)published an editorial cartoon.  The cartoon showed a young jet jockey sitting dejectedly beneath his jet aircraft holding a newspaper with a headline reading ” Missles Make Manned Aircraft Obsolete”.  Standing next to the pilot was a dog-face GI looking sympathetically at the pilot and sayiny “That’s OK kid, I’ve been obsolete for 40 years now!”</p><p>2) The late LCOL John Paul Vann, before he had his troubles,  actually gave briefings on a successful strategy in Viet Nam, which was depicted in dramatic fashion in an old TV movie made from  Neil Sheehan’s book about Vann — “A Bright, Shining Lie”.  In the briefing when Vann would discuss prevailing in counterinsurgency warfare he would say when fighting your enemy use this — and hold up a bayonet — not this — and then show a slide of a flight of B-52’s dropping iron bombs (although, truth be told, the latter were effective against massed formations of NVA infantry).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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