Comments on: QDR Driving Major Forces Shift http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/20/qdr-driving-major-forces-shift/ Online Defense and Acquisition Journal Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:20:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: nick newtonhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/20/qdr-driving-major-forces-shift/#comment-11477 nick newton Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:02:33 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6544#comment-11477 We need at least 600,000 marines and about 1.500,000 in the army to take care of our owns asses but i belive in having friendly fore helping us out to. We need at least 600,000 marines and about 1.500,000 in the army to take care of our owns asses but i belive in having friendly fore helping us out to.

]]> By: TBHhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/20/qdr-driving-major-forces-shift/#comment-8630 TBH Thu, 28 May 2009 13:54:15 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6544#comment-8630 The results of the QDR by summer's end will be a good snapshot of what the next 4 years (or possibly 8 years) will look like for the US. If as stated the "US should build an Army designed to train and support allies and host countries" and the USMC's "mission is kicking down doors – forcible entry – and is a key function of the Corps" we have totally blown it. Despite the last 2 administrations we are still the strongest country in the world. We need to stop gutting the economy, US industry and the military. The results of the QDR by summer’s end will be a good snapshot of what the next 4 years (or possibly 8 years) will look like for the US.
If as stated the “US should build an Army designed to train and support allies and host countries” and the USMC’s “mission is kicking down doors – forcible entry – and is a key function of the Corps” we have totally blown it. Despite the last 2 administrations we are still the strongest country in the world. We need to stop gutting the economy, US industry and the military.

]]> By: blueoxhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/20/qdr-driving-major-forces-shift/#comment-8405 blueox Thu, 21 May 2009 17:50:42 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6544#comment-8405 We have limited resources and the types of war's we are likely to fight will not require a bunch of heavy brigades with M1's and Brad's or MX missles ( we need to keep some - yes )In history the Romans had the same issue in Spain and there are many more examples of taking heavy units and stripping down into lighter units in order to fight a counter-insurgency ... and many more that failed to do that and were beatenWe have expanded Rangers Bat's to 3 and I would like to see more.SF is expanded a bit and more there is better ... sending in A-Teams with some air cav and striker units as support is more effective than putting the 11th acr (ALLONS!) in places like Afghanistan and thats comming from an old cav tropperI do think we need some heavy units as force protection, but you wont see a bradly climbing a mountain We have limited resources and the types of war’s we are likely to fight will not require a bunch of heavy brigades with M1’s and Brad’s or MX missles ( we need to keep some — yes )

In history the Romans had the same issue in Spain and there are many more examples of taking heavy units and stripping down into lighter units in order to fight a counter-insurgency … and many more that failed to do that and were beaten

We have expanded Rangers Bat’s to 3 and I would like to see more.

SF is expanded a bit and more there is better … sending in A-Teams with some air cav and striker units as support is more effective than putting the 11th acr (ALLONS!) in places like Afghanistan and thats comming from an old cav tropper

I do think we need some heavy units as force protection, but you wont see a bradly climbing a mountain

]]> By: Anthony Merlonghihttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/20/qdr-driving-major-forces-shift/#comment-8389 Anthony Merlonghi Thu, 21 May 2009 13:43:32 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6544#comment-8389 The U.S. has the numbers to fight two wars, with contingencies on the side. But to fight those wars in a politically correct manner is another story. Lets not forget in WWII many national guardsmen served for the duration of the war. The conflict in the Iraq proved the need for heivy brigades as the Marines keep calling for help from M1's and Bradleys. Throughout the conflict iraqi insurgents would fire on humvees, and 113's but run in the face of bradleys. The U.S. has the numbers to fight two wars, with contingencies on the side. But to fight those wars in a politically correct manner is another story. Lets not forget in WWII many national guardsmen served for the duration of the war. The conflict in the Iraq proved the need for heivy brigades as the Marines keep calling for help from M1’s and Bradleys. Throughout the conflict iraqi insurgents would fire on humvees, and 113’s but run in the face of bradleys.

]]> By: jasonhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/20/qdr-driving-major-forces-shift/#comment-8386 jason Thu, 21 May 2009 11:38:34 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6544#comment-8386 This is one of the most sanest things I've heard in a long time. For you critics, let me ask you something - is it smarter to say that you're going to fight two major wars and juggle multiple contingencies while not having enough people or hardware - as we've done for the last few decades - or is it smarter to say, hey, we really can't commit to much more than one major war and a few contingencies, and actually resource to do that?I'd much rather have adequate forces for a right-sized mission than rhetoric boasting that the US military is the supercop to the world and finding out that our force breaks under the stress. Get a grip. This isn't about left and right. And if Andy Marshall is leading the effort, you know it's going to be an air-tight solid effort. This is one of the most sanest things I’ve heard in a long time. For you critics, let me ask you something — is it smarter to say that you’re going to fight two major wars and juggle multiple contingencies while not having enough people or hardware — as we’ve done for the last few decades — or is it smarter to say, hey, we really can’t commit to much more than one major war and a few contingencies, and actually resource to do that?

I’d much rather have adequate forces for a right-sized mission than rhetoric boasting that the US military is the supercop to the world and finding out that our force breaks under the stress. Get a grip. This isn’t about left and right. And if Andy Marshall is leading the effort, you know it’s going to be an air-tight solid effort.

]]> By: bobbymikehttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/20/qdr-driving-major-forces-shift/#comment-8383 bobbymike Thu, 21 May 2009 06:37:47 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6544#comment-8383 The Dems and the Left DO NOT want to be a superpower. They want to cut the US down to size. They believe the US is arrogant BECAUSE of our military power. Obama said as much at the Arizona State University commencement. The Dems and the Left DO NOT want to be a superpower. They want to cut the US down to size. They believe the US is arrogant BECAUSE of our military power. Obama said as much at the Arizona State University commencement.

]]> By: pfcemhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/20/qdr-driving-major-forces-shift/#comment-8379 pfcem Thu, 21 May 2009 03:49:07 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6544#comment-8379 translation...The administration is going to neuter the US military. translation…

The administration is going to neuter the US military.

]]> By: solomonhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/20/qdr-driving-major-forces-shift/#comment-8378 solomon Thu, 21 May 2009 03:30:07 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6544#comment-8378 i have watched with amusement the way that several people have slammed the Obama administration. if the reporting here is correct and i have no reason to doubt it, then perhaps they weren't as alarmist as i had originally thought. the idea that instead of a warfighting Army and a forcible entry Marines, we'll build a Army cooperation force and a neutered Marines is indeed CRAZY. before i raise the level of the BS meter, i'll wait for future developments but this is not off to a good start. i have watched with amusement the way that several people have slammed the Obama administration. if the reporting here is correct and i have no reason to doubt it, then perhaps they weren’t as alarmist as i had originally thought. the idea that instead of a warfighting Army and a forcible entry Marines, we’ll build a Army cooperation force and a neutered Marines is indeed CRAZY. before i raise the level of the BS meter, i’ll wait for future developments but this is not off to a good start.

]]> By: Rhyno327http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/20/qdr-driving-major-forces-shift/#comment-8360 Rhyno327 Wed, 20 May 2009 18:35:49 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6544#comment-8360 It would be a mistake to drastically reduce the "heavy" BCT's, turn them into Stryker brigades. How many are they talking about? Thier will be a need for heavy forces to slug it out some day, right now its not gonna happen. Why the Canadians are able to use thier Leo II's in A-stan, and we do not I cannot understand. Lets not get too light, it will hurt us in the long run. It would be a mistake to drastically reduce the “heavy” BCT’s, turn them into Stryker brigades. How many are they talking about? Thier will be a need for heavy forces to slug it out some day, right now its not gonna happen. Why the Canadians are able to use thier Leo II’s in A-stan, and we do not I cannot understand. Lets not get too light, it will hurt us in the long run.

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