Comments on: Iran Threat ‘Increased Substantially’ http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/ Online Defense and Acquisition Journal Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:33:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BuddhalovesPainehttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-11143 BuddhalovesPaine Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:10:59 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-11143 I would like to recommend my new book, titled, Secrets of Santaism. It is only available to those who can find it. I would like to recommend my new book, titled,
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]]> By: BuddhalovesPainehttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-9039 BuddhalovesPaine Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:01:18 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-9039 Who is the, "they" who are going to turn around? Who is the, “they” who are going to turn around?

]]> By: swacksmanhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8961 swacksman Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:00:12 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8961 Did any of you watch the NBC special on Iran yesterday? If we just give this country some time, they are going to turn around. Did any of you watch the NBC special on Iran yesterday? If we just give this country some time, they are going to turn around.

]]> By: rebecca688http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8910 rebecca688 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:31:53 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8910 SoldierDroIn my opinion we should go to Iran and invade the whole country and then bomb the brakes off of N.Korea. becouse we need to show our superiority over these little rising country before they become anymore of a threat. SoldierDro

In my opinion we should go to Iran and invade the whole country and then bomb the brakes off of N.Korea. becouse we need to show our superiority over these little rising country before they become anymore of a threat.

]]> By: Paulhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8695 Paul Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:10:20 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8695 spcehauk may be correct. However, the key is managing the threat thru diplomacy instead of a cowboy approach. All those that want war tomorrow are not the ones at the front or willing to send their daughters and sons. They are living room commanders. SWA including IRAQ is not vital to the USA. We have ample weapons to remotely take care of the threat. Israel just nees to make peace in the region so us AMERICAN can do business and travel the world freely. Since I was a child I have to hide the fact of I am AMERICAN, had to go to two wars because we side with one nation, thou very much loved, it has no strategic value or resources and it hard headed approach get us into problems. Jesus gave us guidance and we are not going to change God's plans. spcehauk may be correct. However, the key is managing the threat thru diplomacy instead of a cowboy approach. All those that want war tomorrow are not the ones at the front or willing to send their daughters and sons. They are living room commanders. SWA including IRAQ is not vital to the USA. We have ample weapons to remotely take care of the threat. Israel just nees to make peace in the region so us AMERICAN can do business and travel the world freely. Since I was a child I have to hide the fact of I am AMERICAN, had to go to two wars because we side with one nation, thou very much loved, it has no strategic value or resources and it hard headed approach get us into problems. Jesus gave us guidance and we are not going to change God’s plans.

]]> By: spacehaukhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8680 spacehauk Fri, 29 May 2009 21:13:42 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8680 it all in the bible. Read it for yourselves. Israel is already surrounded by the "two-hundred million man army" prophesized (Shia's & radical wahibi's) in the bible. The rest is falling into place BY THE HOUR!Hope you got right w/ The Lord. it all in the bible. Read it for yourselves. Israel is already surrounded by the “two-hundred million man army” prophesized (Shia’s & radical wahibi’s) in the bible. The rest is falling into place BY THE HOUR!

Hope you got right w/ The Lord.

]]> By: Navybrat111http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8677 Navybrat111 Fri, 29 May 2009 19:48:13 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8677 This report is just noise added to the frfay over Iran nuke policy. It advocates a "multilateral" approach it doesn't think will work because the main characters will oppose us at every turn. so much fro 230pgs of nothing. This report is just noise added to the frfay over Iran nuke policy. It advocates a “multilateral” approach it doesn’t think will work because the main characters will oppose us at every turn. so much fro 230pgs of nothing.

]]> By: mike jhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8660 mike j Fri, 29 May 2009 01:16:00 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8660 jeremy-glad someone appreciated that. heh...swacksman- don't go tryin to talk sense or anything. not much of an audience for that here. ;-) jeremy–

glad someone appreciated that. heh…

swacksman– don’t go tryin to talk sense or anything. not much of an audience for that here. ;-)

]]> By: swacksmanhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8638 swacksman Thu, 28 May 2009 17:17:48 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8638 Rocket Scientist, you need to get your facts straight. Obama is not Arab! His father was Kenyan-born, and his mother is white. How does that translate to Arab? His first name, Barack, is a derivation of Baruch, which is Hebrew for "blessed". I'm a centrist, but the conservatives have no one to blame but themselves for losing the White House. They supported a man who I think is a good man (Bush), who was heavily influenced by a paranoid man (Cheney). Neither of them did anything to stop 9/11 from happening, even though the administration received warning signals. Then, they started a war with no plan to end it. Apparently they didn't do their homework on the region. People living in the Middle East are not like Americans. At the end of the day, we consider ourselves Americans first, and our religion or ethnicity second. Not so for those folks. With Saddam out of the way, it left a void to be filled by each of the "tribes" living in Iraq. Each wants the whole pie. They are not good compromisers. If Israel makes a pre-emptive strike on Iran, I predict all out war in the Middle East. That would unite all of the Arabs and Iran. They have home field advantage. Do not underestimate that! Sure, we could damage them temporarily with strikes, but at some point we want to leave. They can wait us out. Rocket Scientist, you need to get your facts straight. Obama is not Arab! His father was Kenyan-born, and his mother is white. How does that translate to Arab? His first name, Barack, is a derivation of Baruch, which is Hebrew for “blessed”. I’m a centrist, but the conservatives have no one to blame but themselves for losing the White House. They supported a man who I think is a good man (Bush), who was heavily influenced by a paranoid man (Cheney). Neither of them did anything to stop 9/11 from happening, even though the administration received warning signals. Then, they started a war with no plan to end it. Apparently they didn’t do their homework on the region. People living in the Middle East are not like Americans. At the end of the day, we consider ourselves Americans first, and our religion or ethnicity second. Not so for those folks. With Saddam out of the way, it left a void to be filled by each of the “tribes” living in Iraq. Each wants the whole pie. They are not good compromisers. If Israel makes a pre-emptive strike on Iran, I predict all out war in the Middle East. That would unite all of the Arabs and Iran. They have home field advantage. Do not underestimate that! Sure, we could damage them temporarily with strikes, but at some point we want to leave. They can wait us out.

]]> By: jeremyhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8636 jeremy Thu, 28 May 2009 15:43:19 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8636 mike j has THEE best comment. its simple. makes sense and put everything thats going on into a small paragraph. who know what obama will do. overprepare then fly by the seat of your pants. thats kind of whats going on here with everyone talking all this BS about nukes and "HEY!, leave us alone! we have nukes too now b*tches!" every country wants to do what they want with out interference. and the US always interferes with everyones beef. thats why we are a main target. let em beef. we stay out of it. like canada... mike j has THEE best comment. its simple. makes sense and put everything thats going on into a small paragraph. who know what obama will do. overprepare then fly by the seat of your pants. thats kind of whats going on here with everyone talking all this BS about nukes and “HEY!, leave us alone! we have nukes too now b*tches!” every country wants to do what they want with out interference. and the US always interferes with everyones beef. thats why we are a main target. let em beef. we stay out of it. like canada…

]]> By: Rocket Scientisthttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8635 Rocket Scientist Thu, 28 May 2009 15:39:44 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8635 There are a couple of truths that need to be considered. First, the RAND corporation is full of liberals that have certain views that taint their reports. Second, our intelligence people have known about this for a while. (But, they are unable to do anything because of the political issues!) Third, the "world" is totally selfish and ONLY cares about very restrictive, narcissistic goals, which is why crazy human rights violations as we see in East Africa continue without any response from the nations of the world.So, what does it all mean? No one is going to do anything "real" until it is in their "best interest" to do so.Terrorists have two goals: To spread Muslim power throughout the world and to destroy their perceived "enemies"...Israel and the US. There is NO "rational" thought here! Who is going to challenge them? We need to step up support for Israel, NOT insult them as our ARAB (He is NOT "Black!) president continues to do! By allowing his "Muslim brothers" in Iran to become militarily powerful in the area of missiles and WMD's while denying assistance to Israel, Obama is forcing their hand! Israel MUST respond militarily as they have in the past. Then Obama will cry "foul" and pull even more support! It's a "no win" for Israel!Anyone in intelligence saw this coming. What happened to the WMD's in Iraq? Yes, they still exist...Who has them? Who "gave" Iran the missile technology? (Look to the people that gave Iraq WMD technology! This will tell you WHY certain "players" were NOT interested in helping with Iraq!...OR Iran!) How will Iran use WMD's and missiles? These are the REAL questions to ask. Everyone is making comments without a clear picture of the situation or understanding of the motivations of the players. This is why everyone but the terorists will fail! There are a couple of truths that need to be considered. First, the RAND corporation is full of liberals that have certain views that taint their reports. Second, our intelligence people have known about this for a while. (But, they are unable to do anything because of the political issues!) Third, the “world” is totally selfish and ONLY cares about very restrictive, narcissistic goals, which is why crazy human rights violations as we see in East Africa continue without any response from the nations of the world.

So, what does it all mean? No one is going to do anything “real” until it is in their “best interest” to do so.

Terrorists have two goals: To spread Muslim power throughout the world and to destroy their perceived “enemies”…Israel and the US. There is NO “rational” thought here! Who is going to challenge them? We need to step up support for Israel, NOT insult them as our ARAB (He is NOT “Black!) president continues to do! By allowing his “Muslim brothers” in Iran to become militarily powerful in the area of missiles and WMD’s while denying assistance to Israel, Obama is forcing their hand! Israel MUST respond militarily as they have in the past. Then Obama will cry “foul” and pull even more support! It’s a “no win” for Israel!

Anyone in intelligence saw this coming. What happened to the WMD’s in Iraq? Yes, they still exist…Who has them? Who “gave” Iran the missile technology? (Look to the people that gave Iraq WMD technology! This will tell you WHY certain “players” were NOT interested in helping with Iraq!…OR Iran!) How will Iran use WMD’s and missiles? These are the REAL questions to ask. Everyone is making comments without a clear picture of the situation or understanding of the motivations of the players. This is why everyone but the terorists will fail!

]]> By: combatcowgirlhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8625 combatcowgirl Thu, 28 May 2009 13:35:07 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8625 We need to build up a strong Naval presence in the East China sea and give a statement"STOP THE NUKES NOW,LAST CHANCE"!! Leave Obama admin. out and,allow the secretary of defense and the military to handle this.I believe then you would be surprised how much support we would probably gain from Russia and China and of course, how happy Japan and S.Korea would be. We need to build up a strong Naval presence in the East China sea and give a statement“STOP THE NUKES NOW,LAST CHANCE”!! Leave Obama admin. out and,allow the secretary of defense and the military to handle this.I believe then you would be surprised how much support we would probably gain from Russia and China and of course, how happy Japan and S.Korea would be.

]]> By: swacksmanhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8621 swacksman Thu, 28 May 2009 12:47:17 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8621 Why does everyone feel the need to politicize everything? Man, I feel like this country is coming undone at the seams. Everything always seems to be about liberals vs. conservatives. Our last administration, which I think we can all agree with, was very hawkish. Were they able to stop Iran's nuclear ambitions? NO! Did they stop N. Korea? NO! So, let's not make this about Obama and his administration. The fact is, we are stretched way too thin in our military to really do much about it. Do we really want to fight the Iranians on their turf? I don't think so. The fact is, we really don't know how to fight terrorism. We think we can apply normal warfare doctrine against an enemy that frankly, has little to lose. First, we need to get away from calling our fight against terror a "war". Wars are fought by nation-state uniformed armies. Fighting terror is like fighting the drug cartels, except instead of being financially driven, they are driven by ideology. You will never eradicate that completely. We need to realize that fighting terrorists is like fighting cockroaches. You know you're never going to kill them off. Your goal is to just keep them out of your house. The best way to reduce their numbers is to help the people where they live have better, more productive lives. People become terrorists when their lives suck. I guarantee Osama studied the Nazis. They were able to rise to power because at that time, the Germans lives were awful. They were ripe for a scapegoat for all of their problems. We are now the great scapegoat for the poor Muslims. It's all America's fault, they are taught. Say it enough times and it becomes the truth, right? That's what the Nazis did. So, we need to somehow prop up these countries. As to how to do that, I'm not sure, as I doubt many American businesses will want to set up shop in an area that is unstable. We need to help the Governments of the countries like Pakistan become stable. We're not going to accomplish that with airstrikes. The "bad" guys are just too good at creating negative propoganda. I suggest an advertising campaign showing the Muslims around the world just how much good we have done for Muslims. After all, we stopped the ethnic cleansing in Bosnia. Why don't we publicize that more in that part of the world? Why don't we show how Muslim business owners in this country prosper? I say an all-out ad blitz would be a good idea. These people all watch TV too. Any other ideas?Let's quit making this all about liberals vs. conservatives. We're all in this together.BTW, SoldierDro, your comment shows why YOU are NOT running the country. However, I would be okay with Obama going on record stating that IF a WMD were used against us or our allies, and if we were to trace it's origin to a particular country (shouldn't really be too hard), then we would wipe that country off the face of the earth. I don't have a problem with MAD strategy. It has worked for years. Terrorists do not have the means to develop their own WMD. They have to come from real states, and those countries generally have survival instincts. I would be okay with putting the fear of "Allah" in them. Why does everyone feel the need to politicize everything? Man, I feel like this country is coming undone at the seams. Everything always seems to be about liberals vs. conservatives. Our last administration, which I think we can all agree with, was very hawkish. Were they able to stop Iran’s nuclear ambitions? NO! Did they stop N. Korea? NO! So, let’s not make this about Obama and his administration. The fact is, we are stretched way too thin in our military to really do much about it. Do we really want to fight the Iranians on their turf? I don’t think so. The fact is, we really don’t know how to fight terrorism. We think we can apply normal warfare doctrine against an enemy that frankly, has little to lose. First, we need to get away from calling our fight against terror a “war”. Wars are fought by nation-state uniformed armies. Fighting terror is like fighting the drug cartels, except instead of being financially driven, they are driven by ideology. You will never eradicate that completely. We need to realize that fighting terrorists is like fighting cockroaches. You know you’re never going to kill them off. Your goal is to just keep them out of your house. The best way to reduce their numbers is to help the people where they live have better, more productive lives. People become terrorists when their lives suck. I guarantee Osama studied the Nazis. They were able to rise to power because at that time, the Germans lives were awful. They were ripe for a scapegoat for all of their problems. We are now the great scapegoat for the poor Muslims. It’s all America’s fault, they are taught. Say it enough times and it becomes the truth, right? That’s what the Nazis did. So, we need to somehow prop up these countries. As to how to do that, I’m not sure, as I doubt many American businesses will want to set up shop in an area that is unstable. We need to help the Governments of the countries like Pakistan become stable. We’re not going to accomplish that with airstrikes. The “bad” guys are just too good at creating negative propoganda. I suggest an advertising campaign showing the Muslims around the world just how much good we have done for Muslims. After all, we stopped the ethnic cleansing in Bosnia. Why don’t we publicize that more in that part of the world? Why don’t we show how Muslim business owners in this country prosper? I say an all-out ad blitz would be a good idea. These people all watch TV too. Any other ideas?

Let’s quit making this all about liberals vs. conservatives. We’re all in this together.

BTW, SoldierDro, your comment shows why YOU are NOT running the country. However, I would be okay with Obama going on record stating that IF a WMD were used against us or our allies, and if we were to trace it’s origin to a particular country (shouldn’t really be too hard), then we would wipe that country off the face of the earth. I don’t have a problem with MAD strategy. It has worked for years. Terrorists do not have the means to develop their own WMD. They have to come from real states, and those countries generally have survival instincts. I would be okay with putting the fear of “Allah” in them.

]]> By: SoldierDrohttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8616 SoldierDro Thu, 28 May 2009 11:12:17 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8616 I say we go to Iran and invade the whole country and then bomb the brakes off of N.Korea. Thats what I say, we need to show our superiority over these little rising country before they become anymore of a threat. I say we go to Iran and invade the whole country and then bomb the brakes off of N.Korea. Thats what I say, we need to show our superiority over these little rising country before they become anymore of a threat.

]]> By: El Coquihttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8612 El Coqui Thu, 28 May 2009 06:57:32 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8612 Let's not forget, folks.This is the administration that wants to cut "Star Wars" defense. They certainly choose a dandy time period. Let’s not forget, folks.

This is the administration that wants to cut “Star Wars” defense. They certainly choose a dandy time period.

]]> By: FBhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8593 FB Thu, 28 May 2009 03:09:10 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8593 Mark with the first comment has hit the nail on the head with this old and escalating issue of Middle Eastern Nuclear capabilities. However, we seem to keep forgetting the already accomplished Nuclear neighbors like Pakistan and India which suffer terrorism on a daily basis. Iran seems to have it's inner society under control minus the rhetoric from it's current leader. They will accomplish their goal because of our past and current administrations all the way back to Gerald Ford and onward. Not that they were not good leaders but they did not focus intelligence with the vigor that is currently being executed. My point is that it is to late to do now what should have been accomplished 2 decades ago. Yes that's right not even the Obama Meister can change this. Mark with the first comment has hit the nail on the head with this old and escalating issue of Middle Eastern Nuclear capabilities. However, we seem to keep forgetting the already accomplished Nuclear neighbors like Pakistan and India which suffer terrorism on a daily basis. Iran seems to have it’s inner society under control minus the rhetoric from it’s current leader. They will accomplish their goal because of our past and current administrations all the way back to Gerald Ford and onward. Not that they were not good leaders but they did not focus intelligence with the vigor that is currently being executed. My point is that it is to late to do now what should have been accomplished 2 decades ago. Yes that’s right not even the Obama Meister can change this.

]]> By: mike jhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8587 mike j Thu, 28 May 2009 02:02:01 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8587 So the dog catcher gets told his budget's getting cut.A few days later at the town council meeting, the dog catcher says "The threat to this community from dogs is greater than ever! Just a few days ago, we got a report of a big german sheppard making noise... well, turns out he was fenced in, but man, did he ever bark a lot. If he ever digs out, all hell could break loose!"Then the dog catcher asked for his budget to be restored, plus a little. So the dog catcher gets told his budget’s getting cut.

A few days later at the town council meeting, the dog catcher says “The threat to this community from dogs is greater than ever! Just a few days ago, we got a report of a big german sheppard making noise… well, turns out he was fenced in, but man, did he ever bark a lot. If he ever digs out, all hell could break loose!”

Then the dog catcher asked for his budget to be restored, plus a little.

]]> By: Dennishttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8581 Dennis Thu, 28 May 2009 00:17:25 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8581 It really is a sad reality that many, many people in these countries that havn't a choice may become, once again as others in world war, destroyed for sanitys sake. We probably should start manditory service soon, if not for numbers on the battlefield, for national preparedness.Lets not let the weak left of this nation continue to remove the moral fiber that makes this nation strong. Making us a permanent slave to our finacial master China is really stupid. One day, if not already, demands or concessions on policy will be compromised to appease the masters will. It really is a sad reality that many, many people in these countries that havn’t a choice may become, once again as others in world war, destroyed for sanitys sake. We probably should start manditory service soon, if not for numbers on the battlefield, for national preparedness.

Lets not let the weak left of this nation continue to remove the moral fiber that makes this nation strong. Making us a permanent slave to our finacial master China is really stupid. One day, if not already, demands or concessions on policy will be compromised to appease the masters will.

]]> By: dbcooperhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8579 dbcooper Wed, 27 May 2009 22:04:07 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8579 nuke'em now N. korea and Iran,mushroom clouds on the horizon? nuke’em now N. korea and Iran,mushroom clouds on the horizon?

]]> By: Johnhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/05/27/iran-threat-increased-substantially/#comment-8577 John Wed, 27 May 2009 20:54:40 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6593#comment-8577 This is what I said Mark."This is as good a recommendation as you can get for a near impossible situation. Conflict with Iran is a no win for us considering they border two countries we currently occupy."I don't agree with Garry. The Iranian's want the "capability" to make a weapon-period. Even the moderates in Iran like Mohammad Khatami(from what I have read)support this. Whether we were in Iraq or the Middle East or not, Iran would have still set out on this course of action. This is what I said Mark.

“This is as good a recommendation as you can get for a near impossible situation. Conflict with Iran is a no win for us considering they border two countries we currently occupy.”

I don’t agree with Garry. The Iranian’s want the “capability” to make a weapon-period. Even the moderates in Iran like Mohammad Khatami(from what I have read)support this. Whether we were in Iraq or the Middle East or not, Iran would have still set out on this course of action.

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