Comments on: US Must Salvage VH-71 Costs http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/04/us-must-salvage-vh-71-costs/ Online Defense and Acquisition Journal Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:30:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: bravadohttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/04/us-must-salvage-vh-71-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-8958 bravado Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:37:22 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6798#comment-8958 Leesea - First and foremost, you haven't got a clue.So the incredibly undersized, inferior S-92 is 100% american is it?! Guess you chose to ignore the fact that most of it is assembled in Canada with a number of components coming from China etc.In addition, if you're looking for a program that costs a fortune to run and isn't pulling it's weight operationally then look no further with the V-22. Plus, I'm sure the President would love that huge behemoth landing on his front lawn ruining the guy's shrubs etc.If you ask me, the whole marine one thing is extremely OTT and a complete waste of money BUT if the government is more than happy to cover that huge expense then you may as well plump for the best product on the market which is the EH101 - nothing else comes close. Leesea — First and foremost, you haven’t got a clue.

So the incredibly undersized, inferior S-92 is 100% american is it?! Guess you chose to ignore the fact that most of it is assembled in Canada with a number of components coming from China etc.

In addition, if you’re looking for a program that costs a fortune to run and isn’t pulling it’s weight operationally then look no further with the V-22. Plus, I’m sure the President would love that huge behemoth landing on his front lawn ruining the guy’s shrubs etc.

If you ask me, the whole marine one thing is extremely OTT and a complete waste of money BUT if the government is more than happy to cover that huge expense then you may as well plump for the best product on the market which is the EH101 — nothing else comes close.

]]> By: jimbohttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/04/us-must-salvage-vh-71-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-8917 jimbo Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:20:32 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6798#comment-8917 ya cut all the fancy crap.. andrews has plenty of presidenal painted uh-1... ive seen them.. all lined up at the joint service open house awile back... wtf do thye use those for? can anyone tell me that? ya cut all the fancy crap.. andrews has plenty of presidenal painted uh-1… ive seen them.. all lined up at the joint service open house awile back… wtf do thye use those for? can anyone tell me that?

]]> By: elgatosohttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/04/us-must-salvage-vh-71-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-8906 elgatoso Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:36:53 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6798#comment-8906 Does the President really need a fancy helicopter? Marine One purpose was to get the President from WH to Dulles quickly enough that he could escape nuclear obliteration. AFO was the “mobile command post” for the President.Unfortunately,VH-71 was decided to make it a flying Oval Office Does the President really need a fancy helicopter? Marine One purpose was to get the President from WH to Dulles quickly enough that he could escape nuclear obliteration. AFO was the “mobile command post” for the President.Unfortunately,VH-71 was decided to make it a flying Oval Office

]]> By: Charles Phillips, LtCol USAF Rethttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/04/us-must-salvage-vh-71-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-8892 Charles Phillips, LtCol USAF Ret Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:16:12 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6798#comment-8892 Rep Murtha should know when to keep his head down... For the cost of the Airport To Nowhere we could have bought a lot of helicopters.And does the President really need a fancy helicopter? Doesn't the darn thing have a kitchen in it? Does he need fresh baked cookies while he is spending 30 minutes in it at most? Does it actually need a Presidenttial seal? Why not just use a standard issue H-60?And so what about the $550 million in this day of 2 trillion dollar deficits and billion dollar stimulus?Anyway - the President does not need the darn thing at all. Just lease a commercial helicopter for the times he needs it, or just ride a very comfy limo to the airport. Right now he doesn't need a copter to evacuate, he has a huge bunker underground and there is little chance that anyone is gonna nuke Washington with an ICBM.Get rid of the current helicopters and send the pilots back to actual military duty! Rep Murtha should know when to keep his head down… For the cost of the Airport To Nowhere we could have bought a lot of helicopters.

And does the President really need a fancy helicopter? Doesn’t the darn thing have a kitchen in it? Does he need fresh baked cookies while he is spending 30 minutes in it at most? Does it actually need a Presidenttial seal? Why not just use a standard issue H-60?

And so what about the $550 million in this day of 2 trillion dollar deficits and billion dollar stimulus?

Anyway — the President does not need the darn thing at all. Just lease a commercial helicopter for the times he needs it, or just ride a very comfy limo to the airport. Right now he doesn’t need a copter to evacuate, he has a huge bunker underground and there is little chance that anyone is gonna nuke Washington with an ICBM.

Get rid of the current helicopters and send the pilots back to actual military duty!

]]> By: jimbohttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/04/us-must-salvage-vh-71-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-8883 jimbo Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:59:52 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6798#comment-8883 it cant autorotate... but i can function off one engine.. and it can glide... both engines have to go out at low altitude for a big accidnet to happen.. the chinook cant even autorotate.. the standards should be set across the board.. if the military uses the equipment.. the president should be able to step aboard no questions asked... it cant autorotate… but i can function off one engine.. and it can glide… both engines have to go out at low altitude for a big accidnet to happen.. the chinook cant even autorotate.. the standards should be set across the board.. if the military uses the equipment.. the president should be able to step aboard no questions asked…

]]> By: Jorishttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/04/us-must-salvage-vh-71-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-8882 Joris Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:38:54 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6798#comment-8882 leesa, you should know that for the Vh-71 program it was within buget, and everything went ok, until there were people that added more systems, and even more systems. And then the problem began. So who's to blmae here the manufacturer or the pentagon? And the V-22 is not an option for the presidential helicopter because the V-22 can't autorotate, one of the critical safety features demanded for the presidential helicopter, among other things. leesa, you should know that for the Vh-71 program it was within buget, and everything went ok, until there were people that added more systems, and even more systems. And then the problem began. So who’s to blmae here the manufacturer or the pentagon? And the V-22 is not an option for the presidential helicopter because the V-22 can’t autorotate, one of the critical safety features demanded for the presidential helicopter, among other things.

]]> By: jimbohttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/04/us-must-salvage-vh-71-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-8880 jimbo Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:28:03 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6798#comment-8880 lol the only part i didnt get was how are we supposed to get back money we already spent?Good idea for the osprey.. btw lol the only part i didnt get was how are we supposed to get back money we already spent?

Good idea for the osprey.. btw

]]> By: leeseahttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/04/us-must-salvage-vh-71-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-8878 leesea Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:08:30 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6798#comment-8878 Why should anyone listen to this discredited politco's position? I wonder what links he has to VH-71 companies? Why shoud we belive his staffers?Give an American aircraft mfr another shot at building an medium lift helo. OR better yet force the Administration to use the V-22 Osprey already in service with the Marines and possessing the charateristics desired by the White House. Why should anyone listen to this discredited politco’s position? I wonder what links he has to VH-71 companies? Why shoud we belive his staffers?

Give an American aircraft mfr another shot at building an medium lift helo. OR better yet force the Administration to use the V-22 Osprey already in service with the Marines and possessing the charateristics desired by the White House.

]]> By: Charley A.http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/04/us-must-salvage-vh-71-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-8871 Charley A. Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:50:26 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6798#comment-8871 Ahem - look who is talking about waste... Ahem — look who is talking about waste…

]]> By: jimbohttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/04/us-must-salvage-vh-71-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-8863 jimbo Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:58:04 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=6798#comment-8863 now thats what im talking about... now thats what im talking about…

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