Iran, Through Iraqi Eyes

Iran, Through Iraqi Eyes

In the aftermath of World War II, as the U.S. faced a growing Soviet threat in Europe, a team of U.S. Army historians and intelligence officers formed a special “red team” that included members of the former German General Staff to help them think through the challenges of a potential new “Eastern Front.” Sixty years later, the U.S. military is again gathering lessons from a recently defeated opponent in its “Project 1946,” this time with former senior Iraqi military leaders.

Over four days in 2007, historians, including one of my all time favorites, Williamson Murray, questioned Iraqi former Lt. Gen. Ra’ad Hamdani on a range of issues from his experience as a young officer fighting the Israelis on the Golan Heights in 1973, as a Republican Guard commander during the long war against Iran and against the Americans in 1991 and again in 2003. His long and storied military career ended as commander of the II Republican Guard Corps with the collapse of the Iraqi army in 2003

A recent release in the National Defense University McNair Paper series, Saddam’s War: An Iraqi Military perspective of the Iran-Iraq War, contains the fruits of those interviews with Hamdani. His insights on Iran are particularly valuable as that country emerges as perhaps the region’s dominant power. Hamdani displays an impressive insight into the tactical, operational and strategic levels of war and gives a unique view of Middle Eastern military thought. I highly recommend reading the entire monograph, and have excerpted some of his comments below:


On fighting Israel:

Hamdani’s earliest military education was focused intensely on Israel. Arab militaries desperately sought revenge for the crushing defeat they suffered in the 1967 war, “it was the loss of an illusion about the strength of the Arab armies,” Hamdani said. To prepare for the next war, Iraqi units imitated Israeli operations and tactics, for months they conducted armored maneuvers in Iraq’s southern desert. “When the combat started in 1973, I was still a first lieutenant, but I was completely aware of the Israeli army’s leadership – the names and backgrounds of its generals,” he said. “We had the problem of inflexibility of usage of the armored forces; we always favored tying the infantry to tank divisions. This is the nature of the Third World generals; they are not creative when it comes to maneuvering. For us, the Israeli generals were the professors, since they adopted the German method in using armored forces.”

While the Arab armies performed better in 1973, the IDF’s ability to rapidly recover from its heavy losses in the opening stages of the 1973 battles, particularly on the Golan, and regain the battlefield initiative, came as a particularly rude shock. “The results of the war gave us the impression that Israel was stronger than we could imagine – all of our preparations had still not [made us equal] to the effectiveness of the Israeli army… they were far more well equipped and trained than what we expected.” Hamdani said the quality of Arab armies suffered from a lack of the technical expertise needed in modern war because of low levels of education among Arab soldiers. “Even if we had the equipment, we did not have the scientific expertise and training to actually make good use of it.”

On the Iran-Iraq War:

It wasn’t until 1979–1980 that the Iraqi army’s focus shifted from war with Israel to the possibility of war with its Shiite neighbor Iran; the collapse of the Shah and the Iranian revolution in 1979 changed Iraq’s strategic calculus from west to east. “We heard of the revolutionary changes inside Iran that largely wrecked the Iranian army… a popular revolutionary army started to emerge as its replacement. This appeared as a dark cloud.”

Saddam Hussein viewed the abrupt collapse of the Shah’s army as an opportunity to eliminate the Iranian threat and stop the spread of the Iranian revolution to heavily Shia Iraq. The Iraqi leadership didn’t plan for a long war, they thought it would last at most 8 weeks. Their strategy rested on the assumption that advancing 10–20 kilometers into Iranian territory would force Ayatollah Khomeini to send units guarding Tehran, including the revolutionary militias, to the Iraqi border, allowing Iranian opposition parties to gain control of Tehran and begin a counterrevolution. The counterrevolution never happened.

The strategic challenges of war with Iran became immediately apparent. Iran had a major geographic advantage. “We could never relax, because we had little strategic depth… Iranian soldiers were approximately 116 kilometers from Baghdad, while Iraqi soldiers were 800 kilometers from Tehran.” After Iraq’s initial incursions into Iran in the war’s early days, it mostly fought on the defensive for the rest of the war. “Where could we go, if we wanted to advance to a certain depth in Iran? [L]et us say as a division commander you wanted to go more than 40 kilometers into Iranian territory, what would be the point? Going this far would not get you any closer to Tehran, because it would still be another 800 kilometers to the Iranian capital.”

Iran had a far larger population from which to recruit and fielded an army three times larger than that of Iraq. Iranian troops began the war with a religious fervor: “Their soldiers were willing to do anything, such as walking through minefields and suffering huge losses.” Iraq’s material advantage grew during the war as they were able to import modern Soviet and Western weapons, whereas Iran was largely cut off from major arms producers and their stock of heavy weapons steadily depleted. The Iranians fielded a mostly light infantry force supported by ever diminishing amounts of artillery and armor that relied almost entirely on massive human wave attacks.

Much of the fighting was positional. In open ground, Iraq’s armored forces were able to stop Iranian attacks and inflict huge losses. Hamdani described the bitter battles around Basra in 1986 as another “Battle of the Somme” where the Iranians are thought to have lost as many as 150,000 killed. Iranian attacks relied on infantry infiltration, mostly at night, and were almost always initially successful. But they were unable to exploit those gains because they lacked enough armor and the Iraqis were able to seal off any penetrations.

On the defensive, Hamdani said, particularly in urban areas, the Iranian fought tenaciously, “they would hold every point to the bitter end. This caused us to lose the best of our troops, including the special forces, in the first 2 or 3 years of the war. On the other hand, the Iranians also lost the best of their troops in the early stages.”

Iranian religious fervor began to wane as the war dragged on and the casualty toll grew. “The charm of the revolution started to fade in 1985 and 1986. So we can divide the use of human waves into the two periods before and after 1985. In the final stages of the war, it got to the point where the Pasdaran [Islamic Revolutionary Guards] and Basij [religious militia] even started surrendering in large numbers to Iraqi forces.”

Iran as Adversary Today:

Hamdani, a Sunni, fears spreading Iranian influence in both Iraq and the Sunni Arab world: “The Americans are now the barrier… Iraq was the barrier, but now the Americans are. So, if this barrier is removed, it will not take the Iranian tsunami more than or 10 or 15 years to invade the area.” Hamdani said the Iranians have the largest intelligence system operating inside Iraq.

He said Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is the real leader in Iran, “He is the top of the pyramid of all religious, civilian, military, and economic institutions. He is like the Pope during the Crusades.” Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lacks real power, Hamdani said. “Khamenei is the only one who decides any issue. When Khamenei signs or approves it, this will be holy writ to those who must comply.”

The Iranian military learned valuable lessons from its 8 year with Iraq, as well as from the U.S. wars against Iraq. “During the 1990–1991 war, the U.S. forces did not manage to destroy a single mobile Iraqi missile. There were more than 2,000 American air sorties against the Scud launchers and yet they did not manage to hit even one. Therefore, Iran has focused on the long-range mobile missile bases.” Iran will use its missiles as a strategic weapon. “It has adopted the same strategy as the Iraqi army in 1991. Iraq defied the Americans by striking Israel. Iran can defy the Americans by striking Saudi Arabia and the Emirates,” Hamdani said.

“They rely on their missiles not as a destructive force, but as a deterrent force to discourage others from attacking them. This is even true of their air defense systems. Iran has thousands of vital targets but has an ineffective air defense system… Iran wants to protect its command headquarters, its air bases, its factories, its nuclear projects its ports, its oil fields, as well as its military infrastructure, the roads and bridges. The air defenses of the old Soviet Union would not be enough for this task.”

“There are approximately 30,000 vital targets in Iran and each target requires one air defense battery at least. That is why Iran has focused on deterrence and that it why it is working on a nuclear project to reach a level of equivalence; this equivalence in deterrence will achieve the objective. The more Ahmadinejad screams, the more he expresses Iran’s weakness.”

Photo: ConflictIran

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First, I am no expert on the Iraq/Iran war. The world has presented us with far too many conflicts to follow them all.

But I was active duty AF when it played out its long and sad history, and I followed it closely at the time.

As I recall, and having read about it some since then, this was as mis-managed and poorly supported a war as has ever been. Thousands of ignorant people gave their lives for a few square miles of worthless sandy desert. Lt Gen Hamdani should attempt to distance himself from any part of this war since any association with it puts his reputation at risk.

Didn’t the Iraqis invade in Sep 80 — and the advance stopped inexplicably in the middle of the desert? It was well short of it’s goals as I recall. Then the Iraqi army waited while the Iranians woke up and started to build an army again. Meanwhile, there was little resupply of the Iraqi army and they just camped where they were, waiting for direction from the mercurial Saddam.

Then the Iranians found out that a hastily constituted army with uneven equipment could not even eject the (well armed but) poorly led Iraqis from the desert. So then the Iranians decided to equip thousands of ignorant kids with cheap plastic keys and send them on mass wave assaults on dug in positions. You got to give it to them — for cowardice the Iranian leadership had no equals.

After several years of pointless slaughter, the Iranians managed to recover the desert and return to the original lines. Then both sides fired unguided rockets at each other for a while — with very little strategic effect — until they finally got tired and made peace.

So the contribution of any of the Iraqi or Iranian military figures is only to contribute to a sad farce.

It did distract the Muslim world from it’s concentration on the Israelis for several years.

Gen Hamdani’s other contribution to the development of military strategy was to provide a punching bag for the Israeli military. The Iraqi forces seem to have contributed a very undistinguished role in the Syrian front — retreating with enthusiasm.

I tried to find that paper in the NDU McNair papers but it wasn’t to be found. I’ll try to find it and see if Hamdani can give us any ideas about why the Iraqi army has performed so poorly under leadership of his generation. Maybe we could learn something — they could serve as a bad example at least.

I know this reply shows my very low opinion of the (then) Iraqi political and military establishment but if there is a different interpretation please let me know!

great read.. to both articles

Lt. Col. Phillips,

What you said with regards to the Iran/Iraq war agreed with what the Iraqi General said. They went about 40km inside Iran and hoped another revolution would occur as a result. It did not so Iraq’s hand was played. They had to go another 800km to get to Tehran. So detante ensued. This at the expense of hundreds of thousands of Iranians.

When we went to war with Iraq in 1991 we were fearful of their battle hardened troops. Apparently their war with Iran depleted their leadership and equipment capabilities instead of making them more willing and able to fight.

The start of the Iran/Iraq war also follows along the lines of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. Start a war with no idea of the ramifications or preparation in the event things don’t go the right way.

An interesting comment he makes regards the illiteracy and lack of education within the Arab population. I read an article today about the Afghan military that follows this same line. Can’t get the guys trained because of their own ignorance.

Ironic how the Islamic fascists and terrorists are the real reason their civilization cannot advance. Build a school and they try to blow it up. If it wasn’t for oil they would be Africa.

DC2

One reason I’d like to read the McNair paper is to find out why the Iraqis stalled their advance in the middle of some worthless desert. Sure they had to go another 800 klicks to get to Tehran, but they didn’t have to stop in the middle of a featureless desert. And then it sounds like they just sat there waiting for orders. As the Iranians built up their Army, the Iraqis could have gone back on the offensive when the Iranians were weak.

For whatever reason — Muslim armies have performed poorly since the Ottoman empire got lazy. They are poorly led and don’t function as teams. Other armies have internal divisions but don’t have the problems of Muslim armies.

I use the term Muslim instead of Arab since many of the armies (one example is Egypt) are ineffective but they are not ethnic Arab. There is no other term that covers this group.

I mean no offense to Muslims — American Muslims can be effective soldiers in our military.

Charles, you don’t need to make such an effort to be PC — it sounds ridiculous (no offense). If anyone is offended because you claim that Muslim armies are useless at fighting conventional wars, then they are either an idiot or biased. What Muslims ARE good at (the radical ones at least) is dying for their cause, which makes them an extremely lethal insurgent/terrorist group. Something about 72 virgins makes men excited to get on with the after life.

With that being said, there is no use in trying to figure out why the Iraqi army didn’t keep the pressure on Iran during the war. Saddam wasn’t exactly a military genius, and there was little rational in most of his stupid decisions that eventually led to his demise. He will certainly be remembered for underestimating his opposition!

Lt. Col. Phillips,

I think the issue with the Iraqis pushing farther into Iran was logistics. To have an army that can’t maintain it’s equipment travel that far into enemy territory would be a certain act of defeat.

The one thing most ultra-conservative countries have (muslim countries are the majority in this case) is a lack of education. Just like Western Civilization 500 years ago, those that have power maintain power through education. That is why the Taliban fight so hard against educating the population. If these people could read they would be able to educate themselves.

To use today’s equipment and fight true large scale wars requires an educated military force.

DC2

LtCol Phillips,
The McNair paper is located at the NDU press section of the NDU website, http://​www​.ndu​.edu/​i​n​s​s​/​P​r​e​s​s​/​N​D​U​P​H​P​.​h​tml. It is on the right hand side.
As to the effectiveness, or lack there of, of the Iraqi military (and most other Arab militaries), you can’t disregard the cultural issues in Arab societies. The officers to a large degree are chosen because of their political orientation and generally could care less about their troops, the armies especially exist primarily for internal control, which is never good for combat effectiveness, and the rulers don’t want the forces to be too good because they may overthrow the government. Some Arab officers and troops are very good, but they are generally lost in the mass of the others. Several Muslim countries, Turkey, and to a lesser degree Pakistan, stand out as pretty capable militaries, so it is not always a Muslim thing.

Always interesting to see how these articles always end up with racial and religious slurs, a s people try to pump themselves up.

Obviously the debacle in Lebanon he tribute paid to sunni insurgents as the only way to stop them fighting, the disaster in Afghanistan and Pakistan and rise of Iran and it’s proxy Iraq mean that it’s even more important to denigrate the Muslim world.

Seems that the arse covering maneuver is chief tactic these days.

Sgt Oblat, your post is barely coherent. And unless I missed something, I don’t see a single racial OR religious slur in any of these comments, unless Muslim has suddenly become a bad word in the liberal world of PCness.

me

There’s a key piece of information that Hamdani leaves out of his account. What finally stopped the Iranian advance on Iraq in the closing years of the war was Saddam Hussein’s use of poison gas. The example of Halabja terrified the Iranians, who were smart enough to see what the results would be of a gas attack on one of their own cities. Recall that up to that point Ayatollah Khomeini was hellbent on conquering Iraq at any cost. After the gas attacks, that was history.

The Iranians have never forgotten the lesson of the poison gas. Which is why they will go to any lenghts to acquire a nuclear weapons capability, which they see as their equivalent of a doomsday capability.

Hamdani does not leave it out. If you read the paper that Curt’s link will take you to the use of gas is mentioned numerous times.

Will I really be allowed to comment?!

I am really stupid so I wonder if anyone could help me figure out if these facts are relevent in assessing the conflict between Iran and the US and Iranian intentions in the middle east?
In the early 1980s three or four high ranking officials in the Iranian government were arrested tried and executed after documents that had been shredded at the US embassy in Iran were aledgedly put back together and showed that these men were agents for the CIA. I was not there at the time maybe the documents were forgeries but at that time the US shredders did not shred in 2 directions which makes it concievable that they were put back together.
IN 1998 I met 2 people who told me that they worked for the US military helping the Iraqis during the Iran– Iraq war. Well these people could have been lying to try to impress me.
In fact I could be lying to try to make a case that does not exist. But hey I learned about ethics from the US military. Go figure If you can.

ALL
Articles and interviews like the above, show us one stark fact.
1. The middle east is and always will be a turmoil.
Who won what, when and how are great grist for the Military schools to study.
Opines, past recalls, all are just that, the past. We live in a world today, that is governed by the Fiscal entities we have created this past 2oth century. The regional control of the money flow, not the grunt on the ground, nor the missle launch sites, will determine who wins what. Control of ideas, flow of fiscal funds, and the implementation at the dirt level will be more effective than any Historical discourse.
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Overall, I’d say that our invasion of Iraq was poorly calculated, if anyone thought about it at all.
As Hamdani says, Iraq was the counter to Iran, and now, America will have to take on that responsibility-Not that Saddam was a nice guy, but, Saddam may have actually been working more in our better interest than BUsh. And as for chemical weapons, that was Iraq’s “force multiplier” and a weapon well suited against Iranian human wave attacks in the open desert. Iraqi agent was impure, but the impurities didn’t matter because they fired it off as fast as they made it, which shows you how desperate they were, how desperately they fought, and why, maybe, the average Iraqi just doesn’t feel the same as we do, about Saddam Hussein.

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