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> <channel><title>Comments on: Iranians Wars of the Web</title> <atom:link href="http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/22/iranians-wars-of-the-web/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/22/iranians-wars-of-the-web/</link> <description>Online Defense and Acquisition Journal</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:05:17 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Rhyno327</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/22/iranians-wars-of-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-10149</link> <dc:creator>Rhyno327</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:45:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=7446#comment-10149</guid> <description>Sounds like the US just gave the green light to the Israeli&#039;s. Those words Biden spoke carry alot of weight. Oh, it won&#039;t be long now..</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the US just gave the green light to the Israeli’s. Those words Biden spoke carry alot of weight. Oh, it won’t be long now..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BuddhalovesPaine</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/22/iranians-wars-of-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-10147</link> <dc:creator>BuddhalovesPaine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:19:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=7446#comment-10147</guid> <description>I do not know if anyone will see this or not.  I just want to say, to me when Joseph Biden the Vice President of the United States can make such a nonsensical statement as, Israel is entitled to attack Iran, he has delivered evidence that what is wrong in Washington and the Pentagon is not just a case of system that is out of control, he has delivered evidence of a vast and continuing criminal conspiracy controlling the organs of the US government.  Yes any who goes to college gets indoctrinated to believe that conspiracies are the imagination of simple minded people.  With so much evidence right before our eyes I have to wonder whether college professors are blind or part of the conspiracy.
What Stalin I mean Biden is doing here is adding to the impression that war with Iran is inevitable. He is not manufacturing consent for the war he is manufacturing acceptance of the war.  He is telling you people in the military today, you better get used to the idea because it is coming whether you like it or not.
This conspiracy is so insidious it really makes me question my commitment to ending torture.  For people like Biden and the US Generals who he, and you by the way, follow, neither life in imprisonment nor death is a severe enough punishment to make them pay for what they have done and what they are doing.  What you are doing by the way.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know if anyone will see this or not.  I just want to say, to me when Joseph Biden the Vice President of the United States can make such a nonsensical statement as, Israel is entitled to attack Iran, he has delivered evidence that what is wrong in Washington and the Pentagon is not just a case of system that is out of control, he has delivered evidence of a vast and continuing criminal conspiracy controlling the organs of the US government.  Yes any who goes to college gets indoctrinated to believe that conspiracies are the imagination of simple minded people.  With so much evidence right before our eyes I have to wonder whether college professors are blind or part of the conspiracy.<br
/> What Stalin I mean Biden is doing here is adding to the impression that war with Iran is inevitable. He is not manufacturing consent for the war he is manufacturing acceptance of the war.  He is telling you people in the military today, you better get used to the idea because it is coming whether you like it or not.<br
/> This conspiracy is so insidious it really makes me question my commitment to ending torture.  For people like Biden and the US Generals who he, and you by the way, follow, neither life in imprisonment nor death is a severe enough punishment to make them pay for what they have done and what they are doing.  What you are doing by the way.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tom Feely</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/22/iranians-wars-of-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-10139</link> <dc:creator>Tom Feely</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:15:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=7446#comment-10139</guid> <description>This may not exactly be the correct thread to make this post but it is close enough for government work.  I noticed yesterday from a headline that President Obama is still saying that Iran can not have nuclear weapons.  Why?
A world in which Iran does not have nuclear weapons looks like a much more unstable and frightening world to me.
I also read this article published in Nation magazine about what America can do to help the green revolution in Iran.  So I have come up with my own proposal.  To show its good faith towards Iran the US military, oops I mean government, oops, shall promise to deliver 6 nuclear tipped cruise missiles on a C17, hey do not get any funny ideas, and train the Iranian military on how to maintain and use.  If however the security forces of the Iranian regime were to recognize the legitimate victory of Mousavi as President then the US will deliver not one but two Wasp class aircraft carriers, yes they are aircraft carriers, complete with 20 A8 aircraft and a gaggle of helicopters.  If the security forces were to realize that the true Caliphate of Iran has a family name that begins with the letter M. and it is not Mousavi, then a Trident Submarine, complete with nuclear tipped SLBMs will magically surface at Bandar Abbas and the crew will invite members of the Iranian Navy on board for training on how to operate the submarine and its missiles.  When the Iranian crew says the are ready to operate the Trident themselves the US crew will go home, with each carrying a Copy of Iran&#039;s heaviest cookbook.
Now the Khameni-Ahmadinejad faction may claim that this bribery is an unfair intrusion in to Iran&#039;s internal affairs.  My response to that would be you two have done a fine job during your periods in office but if we were to keep secret our desires to give Iran Wasp class naval vessels and Trident submarines then we would also be intruding in to Iran&#039;s internal affairs by withholding critical information that the officers in Iran&#039;s security services should be aware of.
Now of course I am not a member of this administration so what I just wrote is pure fantasy.  But people in the right time and place can make such fantasies become realities.
President Obama and his subordinates will of course make sure that everything under the sun is done to make sure that such a fantasy does not become a reality.  I do not work under the sun however.  I work under the moon shadow of the Lotus.Wow what a mysterious ending.  Just like someone walking off base alone without his weapon, or an Air Force Colonel being relieved of command with no real explanation given.  Or a Canadian man and Swiss man found murdered in a hotel room in Lugano in June with no witnesses or motive for the crime.
Many things are not as they seem.  But yes you can rest assured there really is a United States located between an Atlantic and Pacific Ocean with a huge virtually unprotected northern border with a virtually unpopulated and huge nation called Canada filled with tens of thousands, perhaps even hundreds of thousands of Muslims trying to make a good life for themselves but when they perceive that there brothers are under attack from their cousins may just decide that they have more important things to do than drive a taxi cab.Wow I guess that was not really such a mysterious ending after all.  At least when you know the rest of the story.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may not exactly be the correct thread to make this post but it is close enough for government work.  I noticed yesterday from a headline that President Obama is still saying that Iran can not have nuclear weapons.  Why?<br
/> A world in which Iran does not have nuclear weapons looks like a much more unstable and frightening world to me.<br
/> I also read this article published in Nation magazine about what America can do to help the green revolution in Iran.  So I have come up with my own proposal.  To show its good faith towards Iran the US military, oops I mean government, oops, shall promise to deliver 6 nuclear tipped cruise missiles on a C17, hey do not get any funny ideas, and train the Iranian military on how to maintain and use.  If however the security forces of the Iranian regime were to recognize the legitimate victory of Mousavi as President then the US will deliver not one but two Wasp class aircraft carriers, yes they are aircraft carriers, complete with 20 A8 aircraft and a gaggle of helicopters.  If the security forces were to realize that the true Caliphate of Iran has a family name that begins with the letter M. and it is not Mousavi, then a Trident Submarine, complete with nuclear tipped SLBMs will magically surface at Bandar Abbas and the crew will invite members of the Iranian Navy on board for training on how to operate the submarine and its missiles.  When the Iranian crew says the are ready to operate the Trident themselves the US crew will go home, with each carrying a Copy of Iran’s heaviest cookbook.<br
/> Now the Khameni-Ahmadinejad faction may claim that this bribery is an unfair intrusion in to Iran’s internal affairs.  My response to that would be you two have done a fine job during your periods in office but if we were to keep secret our desires to give Iran Wasp class naval vessels and Trident submarines then we would also be intruding in to Iran’s internal affairs by withholding critical information that the officers in Iran’s security services should be aware of.<br
/> Now of course I am not a member of this administration so what I just wrote is pure fantasy.  But people in the right time and place can make such fantasies become realities.<br
/> President Obama and his subordinates will of course make sure that everything under the sun is done to make sure that such a fantasy does not become a reality.  I do not work under the sun however.  I work under the moon shadow of the Lotus.</p><p>Wow what a mysterious ending.  Just like someone walking off base alone without his weapon, or an Air Force Colonel being relieved of command with no real explanation given.  Or a Canadian man and Swiss man found murdered in a hotel room in Lugano in June with no witnesses or motive for the crime.<br
/> Many things are not as they seem.  But yes you can rest assured there really is a United States located between an Atlantic and Pacific Ocean with a huge virtually unprotected northern border with a virtually unpopulated and huge nation called Canada filled with tens of thousands, perhaps even hundreds of thousands of Muslims trying to make a good life for themselves but when they perceive that there brothers are under attack from their cousins may just decide that they have more important things to do than drive a taxi cab.</p><p>Wow I guess that was not really such a mysterious ending after all.  At least when you know the rest of the story.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: cd</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/22/iranians-wars-of-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-9677</link> <dc:creator>cd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:42:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=7446#comment-9677</guid> <description>it&#039;s BEBO...noobs</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it’s BEBO</p><p>…noobs</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rob</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/22/iranians-wars-of-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-9531</link> <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:45:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=7446#comment-9531</guid> <description>Daniel: in fairness to our standard media, there have been a few professional journalists walking the streets and getting word out, at great risk to themselves.A Newsweek journalist was arrested in his apartment, as a preemptive strike lest he decide to go out and see what was happening for himself.At last count, 33 journalists were *known* to be detained - tying Iran with China as the world&#039;s largest prison for journalists.But you&#039;re right - without Twitter, without YouTube, and most of all without the hacktivists who produced access to these things despite the regime&#039;s censorship, we&#039;d be watching CNN endlessly repeating stock footage and repeating the &quot;official&quot; statements, eventually giving way to some statistical analysis of the vote tallies.  They wouldn&#039;t have known what else to do.  I think one of the side effects of all this will be a growing integration of new media into standard outlets, and (for good or ill) greater credibility to man-on-the-street reports.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel: in fairness to our standard media, there have been a few professional journalists walking the streets and getting word out, at great risk to themselves.</p><p>A Newsweek journalist was arrested in his apartment, as a preemptive strike lest he decide to go out and see what was happening for himself.</p><p>At last count, 33 journalists were *known* to be detained — tying Iran with China as the world’s largest prison for journalists.</p><p>But you’re right — without Twitter, without YouTube, and most of all without the hacktivists who produced access to these things despite the regime’s censorship, we’d be watching CNN endlessly repeating stock footage and repeating the “official” statements, eventually giving way to some statistical analysis of the vote tallies.  They wouldn’t have known what else to do.  I think one of the side effects of all this will be a growing integration of new media into standard outlets, and (for good or ill) greater credibility to man-on-the-street reports.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LockMartSkunk</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/22/iranians-wars-of-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-9505</link> <dc:creator>LockMartSkunk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:42:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=7446#comment-9505</guid> <description>I&#039;ve got a bad feeling that if these protesters don&#039;t come on top, that most if not all will come out six feet under. . . .and you won&#039;t hear a word of it in any sort of media if the IRGC and Ahmadinejad have a chance to consolidate their power.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve got a bad feeling that if these protesters don’t come on top, that most if not all will come out six feet under.…and you won’t hear a word of it in any sort of media if the IRGC and Ahmadinejad have a chance to consolidate their power.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/22/iranians-wars-of-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-9491</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:02:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=7446#comment-9491</guid> <description>Astonishing that when the new revolution happened not one US &quot;news&quot; service had feet on the ground.Twitter, like all technology is a great equalizer.Daniel
Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astonishing that when the new revolution happened not one US “news” service had feet on the ground.</p><p>Twitter, like all technology is a great equalizer.</p><p>Daniel<br
/> Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rob</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/06/22/iranians-wars-of-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-9477</link> <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:29:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=7446#comment-9477</guid> <description>&quot;Given the massive distributed sources of attack, it is hard to believe this could have been pulled together in a few short hours.&quot;I&#039;m glad more attention is being paid to these areas (finally), but I&#039;m not sure about this premise.  Given that most DDoS attacks utilize botnets comprised of machines whose zombie status is unknown to their legitimate owners, the source of any DDoS attack will be &quot;massively distributed.&quot;Also, as the BBC recently took some flak over, it is relatively trivial to hire a small (comparatively!) botnet - I believe the BBC&#039;s was 10k or so strong?Given these two facts, it seems far more likely that rather than One Large Botnet - which would require spreading malware to zombie enough machines, and maintaining command and control&#039;s secrecy - set up ahead of time and controlled by a few; it would be a simpler and perhaps more elegant solution to say that 50 hacktivists each went out and hired a 10,000 unit botnet.  I would be interested to see any analysis of the DDoS traffic that would support different C&amp;C systems, attack patterns, etc.; anything that would indicate that the various attack machines had a variety of botnet &quot;citizenships.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Given the massive distributed sources of attack, it is hard to believe this could have been pulled together in a few short hours.”</p><p>I’m glad more attention is being paid to these areas (finally), but I’m not sure about this premise.  Given that most DDoS attacks utilize botnets comprised of machines whose zombie status is unknown to their legitimate owners, the source of any DDoS attack will be “massively distributed.”</p><p>Also, as the BBC recently took some flak over, it is relatively trivial to hire a small (comparatively!) botnet — I believe the BBC’s was 10k or so strong?</p><p>Given these two facts, it seems far more likely that rather than One Large Botnet — which would require spreading malware to zombie enough machines, and maintaining command and control’s secrecy — set up ahead of time and controlled by a few; it would be a simpler and perhaps more elegant solution to say that 50 hacktivists each went out and hired a 10,000 unit botnet.  I would be interested to see any analysis of the DDoS traffic that would support different C&amp;C systems, attack patterns, etc.; anything that would indicate that the various attack machines had a variety of botnet “citizenships.”</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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