Comments on: NGOs Want F-22 Whacked

By: d miller

d miller — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:50:31 +0000

i too an a retired military member and went through the end of vietnam and the ford and carter "lean" years. #1,there will always be special interests that want the newest "toys" as touted by the "military/industrial complex". wars are not won just by the "turn and burn jocks" it's won by logistics! if you can't get there "firstest with the mostest" you lose. the gulf war was a fluke, hussien could've rolled over the 82th AB into Saudi as a speedbump before the A-10's arrived. yes,the 15's are aging, but that doesn't preclude upgrading them with newest avionics,engines and weapon systems,strengthening the airframes with carbon fiber overlays,etc. after all, the contractor used "out of spec" parts during assembly, they should be made to foot the bill! but the whole picture is, we're not prepared to fight any major wars by concentrating on these "bush" wars. and it was after WW2 that belief that future wars would be nuclear,not conventational,korea screwed that idea.

By: Marion

Marion — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:06:07 +0000

I guess NGO stands for : No Good Outfit, No Good Organization, either way, evidently they are against all Military Procurement Policies. The American Citizens DO NOT need, ANY Organization that is against the Military, trying to tell our Procurement Agencies what the Military needs or don’t need. Thank You for your time ( TSgt., USAF Retired ).

By: Frances

Frances — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:31:27 +0000

Carl Levin was my state senator and I had an issue that needed his attention! That as of this day could cause an aircraft incident and put pilots lives in harms way. Him and his office chose not to do anything about it. We need issues like this taken care of to keep our Air Power strong as ever whether it be the F-22 or the other old dilapidated aircraft. Air Power is more important as it keeps our ground troops safe from harms way. Look at Desert Shield/Desert Storm. How many soldiers were killed because of a strong Air Power? While were blaming Bush, How about blaming other presidents from Jimmy Carter to Current President?

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:09:43 +0000

If you think we can do without the F-22, just terminate the project and see how long it takes for another 911. Our country needs to remain strong and without projects like the Rapter, … (well, you figure it out).

By: pat Z

pat Z — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:54:08 +0000

coup is wrong word.. it should be something like, “could remove hime from office” instead.

Coup is too much.. it is saying a complete overthrow of gov.. That is just too wide.

It is a lack of character that is the problem

By: pat Z

pat Z — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:37:49 +0000

No Backing the military,
No Backing the constitution
No Backing the Eligibility Requirements
No Backing the War
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Backing the Sodomy movement
Backing the Abortion movement
Backing Socialism
Backing Communinism in Honduras
Backing giving up the US Dollar for the EURO
Backing the Government control of private companys.
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Firing Private company CEO’s
Firing Military members in Private Companies that question his eligibility.
Firing the Inspector General because the report “Made him look bad“
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No this is not Putin, or Stalin.
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Military is suppose to serve and protect against all Enemys foriegn and DOMESTIC.
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Sounds like time for a COUP!
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And you wanted CHANGE ?
and you got MORE!

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All this in a matter of a few months.

By: Hilary C.

Hilary C. — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:11:10 +0000

“Where’s the birth certificate?”

By: Shencobalt

Shencobalt — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:45:20 +0000

Well, it has been proven on this page, the left wingers (Democrats, in case you are one and don’t recognize the word)apparently never went to school or skipped a bunch of it. They not only don’t spell correctly, they really don’t know anything about the way the Government is suppose to run. Look it up, you might learn something!!!

By: Slim

Slim — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:21:19 +0000

Um...wouldn't it make sense to produce one fighter...the F35 Joint Strike...for all branches to use and train on? Wouldn't this cut costs and make maintaining easier??? Pilots can't let go of fighters, but we haven't had a dog fight since Vietnam and we won't. Drones and close air support is the new combat. It's plotics and pet projects and business as usual...if the taxpayers knew how much we waste in the military they would be up in arms and should be...we can't manage money!!!

By: Chief Houston

Chief Houston — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:59:06 +0000

Guys,

I know you want to wax political both pro and con for our administration, but, please use this valuable resource to communicate ideas to solve problems related to the articles. Lord knows we all want to win our wars with the best equipment, personnel and price, but it is up to us to make it happen.

By: Sig

Sig — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:42:49 +0000

Josh, where did you read about the simulation that led the Russians to state that their Su-30s were killing F-35s like clubbing baby seals?

By: ReconTeam

ReconTeam — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:17:13 +0000

Welfare of the rich corporations Reno? The welfare of the rich corporations is the literal welfare money Barack is handing banks and businesses that would collapse without it! At least we get something back from our money from General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Or Boeing.

The F-22A is a feat of engineering that will ensure continued American air superiority for years to come if we give it the support and production it deserves. Course these days twisted liberal idealism comes before the reality of national defense.

By: zapho2002

zapho2002 — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:36:20 +0000

While I agree that the F-22 Raptor is the ideal replacement for the F-15 Eagles that are currently grounded because they are so old that they have started falling apart in the air also the RQ-1 Predator is not I repeat not a fighter it is a long range reconnaissance craft as for the very new F-35 Lightning II I do not believe it will do very well in a modern dogfight the Raptor need to be made more durable not more stealthy of course here is an idea to solve all of the money problems that everyone here seems to complaining about why dont we just surrender and let the enemys of freedom take over then we wont have to think about how much freedom is really worth and how much it costs to keep it personaly I dont care how much the USA spends on its military just so long as they keep me safe from those that wish to take away my freedom

By: Reno

Reno — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:58:23 +0000

Military spending is welfare of the rich corporation with nothing else to do.. This aircraft doesn’t provide for any common defense of this country because no other country will attack us here..

By: cvn

cvn — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:40:05 +0000

Cut welfare to obama voters and PROVIDE for the common defense.

The war on poverty is a failure…get out of the ghettos now!

By: Steve5699

Steve5699 — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:37:58 +0000

The actual per plane cost of the F-22 decreases drastically when multiples are ordered. The reason that they have cost so much to date is because R&D and design changes are factored in.
Spread that cost over many examples and the cost per example decreases to an acceptable number. We can’t wait for twenty years of development for a new stealthy fighter. The F-22 has the radar signature of a small bird.

By: ReconTeam

ReconTeam — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:58:50 +0000

Focusing on the war we are fighting NOW doesn’t mean we should ignore our capabilities to fight conventional wars. This type of thinking has cost lives before and will cost lives again if we forget this. The people saying there is no threat to justify the F-22A are wrong. The Russians are exporting advanced Su-30 and Su-35 variants everywhere, the Chinese continue to expand their military, and you can’t keep a 30+ year old F-15C flying forever.

By: Rhyno327

Rhyno327 — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:53:54 +0000

Sell the F-22 to our allies, keep the line open, and focus on the war we are fighting NOW.

By: L Puig

L Puig — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:00:40 +0000

"the stupid shall be punished...!" that's what an old chief petty officer used to say in the boat to us, and this short sighted analysis of "everything is ok now, and we do not need anymore F-22" is as short sighted as in the 1990's when we butchered the military and the intelligence agencies just before 9/11 for budget considerations, aka political stupidity! you plan for the wars we may get into in the future, NOT the wars we are in right now folks... and the F-22 is the weapon system we NEED to keep the russians and chinese "in check" for years to come... failure to do that could be a grave mistake in years to come...! oh well, your choice!

By: Michael DeKort

Michael DeKort — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:51:16 +0000

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/09/AR2009070903020.html
It’s all here. Any congressman who votes for this thing after reading this article should be brought up on the same fraud charges Lockheed faces. Once you are aware of a problem, do not come clean about it and choose to continue down the same path you are committing fraud. I would rather see those workers get retrained, given money to get them by for a while and for us to buy proven equipment. Heck just hand them the money. This plane will not perform long enough in combat to be effective. We will lose a battle or even a war if we depend on this as our primary air-to-air fighter. A slightly less qualified plane that stays in the air is better than having a potentially excellent plane sitting on the ground. (I say potentially excellent because the plane’s stealth capability and flight performance are significantly compromised by know flaws).