Human Intel Or Technical Intel?

Human Intel Or Technical Intel?

Some of the leading doyens of the Washington national security set recently returned from Afghanistan where they were part of new Afghan commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s strategy review. CSIS’s Anthony Cordesman reported back last week with a generally pessimistic take on the state of affairs on that front.

One point Cordesman made in his briefing to Washington reporters really jumped out: the surprisingly poor intelligence we have on the enemy. How is it that eight years into this war we don’t have better intelligence on exactly who we’re fighting?

Part of the problem is the complexity of the tribal milieu in Afghanistan, characterized by constantly shifting loyalties and patronage networks. RAND’s Seth Jones, speaking to a Washington audience last month, said the intricacies and complexities of the tribal layers and relationships in Afghanistan means its nearly impossible for the development community to work in the troubled southern and eastern parts of the country; the challenge of deciphering the “human terrain” is only worse for the military.


Another reason may be that the U.S. military is becoming overly reliant on technical means of intelligence gathering. A RAND research team, examining lessons from the Vietnam-era Phoenix program for contemporary counterinsurgencies, said that since the wars began this decade, the U.S. military has developed two different models to spying on and attacking insurgent networks: what they call the “U.S.-centric approach,” uses signals collection and overhead surveillance with aerial drones and satellites; the second approach is the down in the trenches human intelligence, which essentially means running a network of informants.

Using massed and persistent intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) over Iraq produced a number of successes: including taking down bomb making cells, largely by catching insurgents in the act of burying IEDs, and killing high value targets, such as Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi in 2006. The problem with the overhead surveillance approach is that it takes a massive amount of resources to establish that “unblinking eye” over the battlefield that commanders so desire. It also requires catching insurgents doing insurgent stuff; ISR is not all that useful in uncovering the insurgent “shadow government” in some remote mountain village.

The second approach, according to RAND, is exemplified by the Sunni “Awakening” movement where U.S. troops leveraged contacts in Iraq’s Sunni community to successfully target Al Qaeda. The strengths of the second approach are “essentially the opposite” of the ISR approach: it doesn’t cost very much. Paying off informants is a lot cheaper than building and operating a fleet of aerial drones and electronic snooping aircraft. It’s also an intelligence gathering method that is not force structure dependent. The downsides are that people’s loyalties, particularly people who come with a price, are notoriously prone to shifting.

The RAND researchers favor the human intelligence approach. As an example of its superiority they cite the fact that the ISR heavy approach was used in Iraq’s al Anbar province from 2003 to 2006, during which time the insurgency grew dramatically. However, once the Awakening movement began to spread after 2006, tip offs and intelligence on insurgent networks increased and Al Qaeda was decimated.

Running a network of informants does require some consistency in terms of people on the ground, which is why long dwell CIA personnel are better at the job than military personnel who are constantly rotating through an area; of course that’s also what CIA agents are trained to do.

As the RAND team points out, it takes a long time to establish an effective informant network. ISR can spot Taliban “flying columns” of fighters, particularly if they move in any real numbers. The more challenging task is unmasking that insurgent shadow government lurking in local communities. That will require the Afghan population trust that U.S. forces are there to protect them and that they won’t be leaving any time soon. Convincing the Afghan people that we are in it for the long haul will demand a lot more than payoffs.

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America is so dumb, lol

But it’s comic how they bandy the word “intelligence” about.

Why can’t you have both?

The latest trend is to go beyond ISR to include capability for immediate attack with on board UAS weapons, joint or Army manned air attack, or fire support. That does not happen very often with HUMINT.

UAS IMINT and similar SIGINT also provide evidence of hostile intent and positive ID which HUMINT cannot duplicate. HUMINT has also proven to purposely mislead us into targeting parties that were not guilty of anything other than being the informer’s enemy.

Cole,

I second that,“Why can’t we have both?”

Two geniuses from the RAND Corp have proposed bringing back the Phoenix Program of Vietnam fame because it did so much for intelligence coordination.

It also helped to do in our national reputation and sullied the reps of our fighting men and women. Can you imagine having a Phoenix Program in today’s environment, e.g., re interrogation? Give me a break.

It takes a couple of desk jockies who sorely want to emulate the best and the brightest to come up with a boneheaded idea like that.

Two geniuses from the RAND Corp have proposed bringing back the Phoenix Program of Vietnam fame because it did so much for intelligence coordination.

It also helped to do in our national reputation and sullied the reps of our fighting men and women. Can you imagine having a Phoenix Program in today’s environment, e.g., re interrogation? Give me a break.

It takes a couple of desk jockies who sorely want to emulate the best and the brightest to come up with a boneheaded idea like that.
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Well as lack of intelligence in Afghanistan by some propartion is concern it will take long road to go. The battlefield comparing to Iraq is somewhat different cause of some customs, traditional and social values concerned. People have not adequet education and sense to realize the modern time necessacity to filled up as far their own society is concern. The youngs who were well educated trained and committed individuals among their different tribes would somehow change the trend of having negative view about America as well the information collected by their source will reinforce and redo some elements regarding intelligence strategy.

“Why can’t we have both?”

No reason. We’re getting a little better at the technical side, but in Astan apparently we haven’t been doing HUMINT very well. If we do get better at HUMINT, it’ll pay dividends to the technical side. But that’s just common sense, I don’t see why it needed a RAND study.

The The problem with intelligence isn’t the methods of intelligence per se, is the people who implement and receive intelligence. Like all information it can be overlooked, over hyped, or as it usually is in the military and government misinterpreted for organizational or political reasons.

The military prefers technical intel because it speaks technical. It abhors human intel because the military hierarchy cannot comprehend information and analysis flowing upward.

Rather than listen to the intelligence coming in from the field through their analysts, commanders and officers tend interfere, manipulate, or spin intelligence in an attempt to control the output.

ide say both? i get it , but its kinda weird. LOL use em both.

Thinking that civilian spooks are “trained to run networks” in a combat zone shows that the Rand guys need to get out of the office more. Reliance on non-military HUMINT only works if those insurgents are hanging around cocktail parties at embassies in Kabul.

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