To Ban Cluster Bombs

To Ban Cluster Bombs

Humanitarian groups cheered the news that in the past few weeks Croatia, Slovenia and Zambia have ratified the Convention on Cluster Munitions, also known as the “Oslo Treaty,” intended to ban cluster weapons from world arms inventories. With these latest signatories, the treaty is now more than half way towards the 30 ratifications needed to become binding international law.

Absent from the Oslo Treaty are the major cluster bomb manufacturers, including: the U.S., Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan, India and Israel. The U.S. favors a parallel effort underway though UN auspices called the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons (CCW).

The problem with cluster weapons is that a certain percentage of the submunitions, or bomblets, fail to detonate, most rely on impact fuses which can be unreliable depending on the surface they hit, whether its hard concrete or soft sand. Unexploded bomblets become the equivalent of land mines. This was once thought to be a beneficial feature to prevent enemy engineering teams from repairing vital sites such as airstrips.

Now, countries such as Laos and Afghanistan are strewn with menacing unexploded ordinance that claim the limbs and lives of the innocent years after the weapons were scattered about the battlefield. Absent an outright ban of cluster weapons, the only solution is technological, by building in a reliable self destruct mechanism.

If the Oslo Treaty seeks an outright ban of cluster munitions, the participating CCW states, which have been discussing cluster munitions since 2007, aim for rules that still allow production of cluster munitions but ensure an extremely low dud rate.

The U.S. hopes the CCW will follow DOD’s lead which last year put in place a policy that aims for all submunitions to have a dud rate of less than 1% by 2018, according to a DOD official. According to a June 19, 2008 memo signed by Defense Secretary Robert Gates, until the end of 2018, the use of cluster munitions that don’t meet that requirement must be approved by the Combatant Commander.

The memo states that cluster munitions are “legitimate” weapons with a clear military utility: “There remains a military requirement to engage area targets that include massed formations of enemy forces, individual targets dispersed over a defined area, targets whose precise locations are not known, and time sensitive or moving targets.”

The CCW is currently considering a draft cluster munitions protocol that would require future cluster weapons to incorporate one or more safeguards that, after dispersal, would meet DOD’s 99% reliability standard. In addition, the draft includes language calling for weapons transfer prohibition, clearance and destruction of cluster munitions remnants and victim assistance, the official said. A full CCW meeting to consider the draft protocol is scheduled for November.

The main reason DOD favors the CCW over the Oslo Treaty is that the CCW includes the major users and builders of cluster munitions while Oslo doesn’t, according to the official. Moreover, those states with large cluster munitions stockpiles are not likely to become parties to the Oslo Treaty, as they believe in the continued military utility of the weapons. If the CCW draft protocol were adopted, it would cover an estimated 90 percent of the world’s cluster munitions stockpiles. Even with the sought after 98 states as signatories, Oslo would cover far less, the official said.

Moreover, Oslo doesn’t exclude all cluster munitions, according to the official. There is a loophole. The treaty defines the weapons by size and weight: certain weapons can escape the ban as long as they contain less than 10 submunitions and each bomblet weighs more than 4 kilograms.

Gates’ cluster munitions policy memo says that “blanket elimination” of cluster munitions could cause some countries to use even larger bombs that could end up causing greater collateral damage than cluster weapons. “Large scale use of unitary weapons, as the only alternative to achieve military objectives, could result, in some cases, in unacceptable collateral damage and explosive remnants of war issues,” it says.

Textron Defense Systems builds the only weapon that currently meets DOD’s cluster munitions export requirements and the company is intently watching the progress of both treaties. The company’s Sensor Fused Weapon (SFW), a 1,000 pound air-dropped bomb that deploys 10 submunitions each of which contains four anti-vehicle “Smart Skeet” warheads, was used successfully in the early days of the Iraq war, said senior vice president Bob Buckley. The smart warheads can simultaneously detect and engage fixed and moving targets within a 30-acre coverage area.

Buckley said Textron achieves the 99% reliability rate by incorporating multiple technological safeguards in the SFW that render the warhead inert if it does not detonate. “The Oslo concern about reliability was that people would falsify the findings, they argue that the 99% reliability rate cannot be done.” Contact fuses are too unreliable and won’t get you there, he said, the only way is with advanced self destruct mechanisms. DOD’s certification is very rigorous, Buckley said, “we’ve done thousands of test to prove this, and we have.”

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This is useless for a country like U.S that has the capability to create cluster munitions with virtually no duds.

This is like banning Russia, Iran, and Chinese weapons.
Hey, can we do that? I just dont know if you can ban a weapon on war time. If we can do that we might just as well ban

This is like banning the Chinese,Russia, North Korea weapon. If we can do that we might as well ban all wars.How can we ban something if a country is at war and their using it against you already ?

Good Afternoon Folks,

War is about killing and the cluster bombs makes it possible to deal with large formations while containing collateral damage. Choices like nuclear, artillery barrages or carpet bombing kill more civilians (collaterals) then CBU’s. Another option and one that I personally prefer from experience is napalm but the visual impact of the people injured or killed in a napalm strike is horrid. But when it cools down the killing is done there are no little gifts for future generations to discover.

Without napalm or cluster bombs the only viable option left is chemical weapons, which nobody wants. The cluster bomb appears the be the best of nasty options, to make them more efficient would also make them safer and would better killing machines.

ALLONS,
Byron Sknner

Don’t they have cluster bombs that detonate on their own after a cetrain period of time?

@Alex
“This is useless for a country like U.S that has the capability to create cluster munitions with virtually no duds.”

Laos was bombed with US made cluster-bombs, dropped by the US. It also is one one the leading countries in child mortality and maiming by cluster-bombs.
As for “virtually no duds”, CBU-75 Sadeye which the US used during Vietnam dropped 1,800 bomblets. If it were 99% failure proof that would leave 18 unexploded bombs on the ground. However that 1% is unlikely, it was probably close to 10% or 180 unexploded bomblets.

The CBU-87 CEM used in Desert Storm contained 202 and had a manufacture claimed failure rate of 5%, or 10 bomblets. 10,035 CBU-87 CEM’s were dropped during Desert Storm. That would leave 101,353 unexploded bomblets.

It is not just civilians who get hurt. Our own soldiers can get hurt and killed by our own cluster bomb. People forget, you still have to take and hold territory, you can’t just bomb and bomb some more(well flyboys like to I suppose).

Now don’t get me wrong, cluster-bombs have a role in warfare. But war is messy and to believe otherwise is wrongheaded.

Scath none of those examples tell me anything, except that decades-old technology had issues with bomblet fuses. The U.S. is developing new cluster munitions with a MUCH MUCH lower fail rate, and further safeguards to prevent duds from accidentally detonating afterwords. I’m confident our defense industry will find a solution that makes this issue mostly irrelevant in future conflicts.

And in the mean time, there is no question that our ROE using cluster munitions is quite restrictive.

Good Morning Scathseaigaire,

You make some good points and provided the missing math on this topic. The CBU is a matured technology and may be only 10% from being perfect but that last 10% of technology is very costly. For the United States the CBU is a weapon of rather limited use, mostly early part of an engagement where the enemy might be tempted to have concentrations of troop, equipment or materials.

A note here the CBU in the picture doesn’t appear to be of American manufacture. The sub-amnunitions in U.S. made CBU’s are colored yellow to make for easier Identification when the area is cleared for unexploded ordinance.

The GPS CBU is accurate and it target coverage can be limited, but the CBU will leave behind unexploded ordinance the same as out of ever hundred rifle shots there will be a couple of flyers, this comes under the military doctrine sh** happens.

Again I have to go back to the choices a field commander has, artillery barrages, or carpet bombing. These also leave behind unexploded ordinance but these forms of attack are not as discriminating as a GPS Guide CBU.

I would say that other then being very discriminating and judicious in its use, the CBU as we know it will be in the arsenals of many countries for decades to come.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

The problem with cluster munitions can’t be solved just by making new weapons with lower failure rates. Something like 13,000 people around the world have been killed or maimed by cluster bombs in the last 30 years during peacetime. In Vietnam, it’s still around five people a week or roughly 300 a year. I have a call into a foundation in Ireland right now, I believe they are called Adopt A Minefield, and expect they have more accurate numbers on this.

Some of these might just be hand planted mines.

About one in three of these fatalities/injuries are children.

Effective weapon? Sure, during the conflict. But the bomb doesn’t know when the war is over.

Daniel Russ
Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup​.com

That picture is of a Israeli bomb from a story on unxeploded Israeli cluster bombs.

It would be completely idiotic for the United States to join this “ban” on cluster weapons, thus I fear the liberals might attempt it.

Cluster bombs and artillery munitions are incredibly effective in many scenarios, especially against larger formations. Improvements are constantly lowering the failure rate, and improving accuracy.

Sleep well tonight. Neither the Croatian, Slovenian nor Zambian air force is gonna use cluster bombs. I for one feel much safer now that they have signed on.

The International Court raises its ugly head once again. Propped up by America haters.

While I agree that killing of civilians is something we need to work to eliminate, the very idea that our President and generals will be arrested to stand trial at the International Court bothers me immensely. I see this as just a ruse to once again defeat America by any means, not a true movement to reduce unnecessary casualties.

Want to be Russia and China nod their heads and keep right on doin’ what they’re doin’??

Those nations that obey internaional law will conform. Those nations who claim to obey international law will laugh and go on their merry way. At one time I thought the notion of a one world government was the product of loons. International law is moving us one step closer to the one world government concept, and the loss of all our rights as American citizens. After all, presidential canidate Obama declared he is a citizen of the world.

Think about this. What is an “internation court” ordered the halt to research into a nuclear bomb during WWII. Do you think Germany and Japan would conform? What if the U.S did obey the internation law banning nuclear research? The East coast would be speaking German and the West coast would be speaking Japanese!

As someone said, we can all sleep easier tonight, Zambia will no longer use Cluster Munitions (Did they even have them to begin with?). People quote the numbers of people killed or injured by UXOs yet how many of those are due to mines and other munitions as compaired to cluster submunitions?

Besides, you ban one weapon type and it will be replaced with another. History is loaded with examples of weapons developed to make war “So horrific man will never make war again.”

Cluster munitions often kill children who find them and don’t know they are nothing to play around with. If we can reduce the dud rate, that is a laudable goal. MIKE C.

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