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> <channel><title>Comments on: A Navy Ship On Time, Budget</title> <atom:link href="http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/</link> <description>Online Defense and Acquisition Journal</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:07:57 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Scott</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-17682</link> <dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:30:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-17682</guid> <description>Installing the new Radar on the Burkes, would give our fleet greater capability the three new DDG 1000&#039;s </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Installing the new Radar on the Burkes, would give our fleet greater capability the three new DDG 1000’s</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Scott</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-17683</link> <dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:28:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-17683</guid> <description>I would reconsider comparing the capability of a DDG-51 to a non-existent DDG-1000. I would agree it has some different capability, but I don&#039;t believe the 1000 would stand a chance against a Burke. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would reconsider comparing the capability of a DDG-51 to a non-existent DDG-1000. I would agree it has some different capability, but I don’t believe the 1000 would stand a chance against a Burke.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-15119</link> <dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:56:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-15119</guid> <description>&quot;...the Navy needs to procure MORE of them to make it an affordable warship, and just abandon the idea of building more of the less capable DDG 51&#039;s&quot;
Or build follow-on DDG-52 derived ships which progressively incorporate the newer propulsion, sensor, weapons, EW and stealthing techniques as these new technologies mature rather than lumping all these new systems into 2 or 3 trouble prone &quot;demonstrator&quot; hulls which will never be allowed far from tech reps or supporting ship repair facilities.  This gives you the benefit of a proven and very seaworthy design (BURKE class) combined with new cutting edge systems as they come available. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…the Navy needs to procure MORE of them to make it an affordable warship, and just abandon the idea of building more of the less capable DDG 51’s”</p><p>Or build follow-on DDG-52 derived ships which progressively incorporate the newer propulsion, sensor, weapons, EW and stealthing techniques as these new technologies mature rather than lumping all these new systems into 2 or 3 trouble prone “demonstrator” hulls which will never be allowed far from tech reps or supporting ship repair facilities.  This gives you the benefit of a proven and very seaworthy design (BURKE class) combined with new cutting edge systems as they come available.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Scott</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-14868</link> <dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:10:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-14868</guid> <description>The problem with these ships will be the same as we had with the Seawolf class attack submarine...when you only build 3 of them, where do the spare parts come from?  Maintenance costs over the long haul will be outrageous, the Navy needs to procure MORE of them to make it an affordable warship, and just abandon the idea of building more of the less capable DDG 51&#039;s </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with these ships will be the same as we had with the Seawolf class attack submarine…when you only build 3 of them, where do the spare parts come from?  Maintenance costs over the long haul will be outrageous, the Navy needs to procure MORE of them to make it an affordable warship, and just abandon the idea of building more of the less capable DDG 51’s</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Colonial-Marine</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-14731</link> <dc:creator>Colonial-Marine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:04:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-14731</guid> <description>ELP, air attack is why you have ships organized into battle groups, with overlapping long range radar coverage and missile defenses (Aegis systems), plus air cover provided by carrier squadrons. The lower RCS of the DDG-1000 would make it more survivable compared to a traditional destroyer like the DDG-51 class.Modern attack submarines are a threat to any group of warships. The best countermeasure to such a threat (besides for friendly subs) is a well trained and well equipped ASW force. This is something we certainly had during the Cold War, but I feel that we have cut corners here in more recent years. Another sad result of all of the budget cuts since then.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ELP, air attack is why you have ships organized into battle groups, with overlapping long range radar coverage and missile defenses (Aegis systems), plus air cover provided by carrier squadrons. The lower RCS of the DDG-1000 would make it more survivable compared to a traditional destroyer like the DDG-51 class.</p><p>Modern attack submarines are a threat to any group of warships. The best countermeasure to such a threat (besides for friendly subs) is a well trained and well equipped ASW force. This is something we certainly had during the Cold War, but I feel that we have cut corners here in more recent years. Another sad result of all of the budget cuts since then.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ELP</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-14453</link> <dc:creator>ELP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:15:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-14453</guid> <description>What an incredible wast of money. Multi-billions for a boat that can be taken out by a well planned air attack... or even sub.The battleship admirals are back.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an incredible wast of money. Multi-billions for a boat that can be taken out by a well planned air attack… or even sub.</p><p>The battleship admirals are back.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: roland</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13944</link> <dc:creator>roland</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:59:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13944</guid> <description>I dont know if our country (USA) already invented a deisel or nuclear combatant ship like this that can dive like a sub. I think this kind of design may best help the country on defense if it can also be used underwater, to make it more invicible against the enemy&#039;s radar.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know if our country (USA) already invented a deisel or nuclear combatant ship like this that can dive like a sub. I think this kind of design may best help the country on defense if it can also be used underwater, to make it more invicible against the enemy’s radar.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: WarScientist</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13899</link> <dc:creator>WarScientist</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:18:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13899</guid> <description>that should read: &quot;the SM2 missile can be used not only against planes, choppers, but also enemy cruise missiles&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that should read: “the SM2 missile can be used not only against planes, choppers, but also enemy cruise missiles”</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: WarScientist</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13898</link> <dc:creator>WarScientist</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:16:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13898</guid> <description>@Roland.The SM2 missile can be used not against planes, choppers and enemy cruise missiles. The SM3 has the added capability of being able to intercept ICBMs, so if any rogue states try to nuke you, youll be glad to have on of these ships in the area.What makes this a great ship is not only the stealth, but also the fire-support capabilities, because otherwise you&#039;re just stuck in the water whilst the infantry, tanks and fast/movers have all the fun inland.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roland.</p><p>The SM2 missile can be used not against planes, choppers and enemy cruise missiles. The SM3 has the added capability of being able to intercept ICBMs, so if any rogue states try to nuke you, youll be glad to have on of these ships in the area.</p><p>What makes this a great ship is not only the stealth, but also the fire-support capabilities, because otherwise you’re just stuck in the water whilst the infantry, tanks and fast/movers have all the fun inland.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: roland</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13884</link> <dc:creator>roland</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 02:16:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13884</guid> <description>I dont know if this was armed with ICBM and patriot missiles that can defend our country in times of need.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know if this was armed with ICBM and patriot missiles that can defend our country in times of need.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ReconTeam</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13880</link> <dc:creator>ReconTeam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:59:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13880</guid> <description>Byron Skinner you mentioned the Seawolf class submarines in your post. I too have thought the DDG-1000 would be comparable. Yet consider that the cheaper Virginia class was developed from the Seawolf, perhaps we will see something developed from the DDG-1000.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byron Skinner you mentioned the Seawolf class submarines in your post. I too have thought the DDG-1000 would be comparable. Yet consider that the cheaper Virginia class was developed from the Seawolf, perhaps we will see something developed from the DDG-1000.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: G-Town Student</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13849</link> <dc:creator>G-Town Student</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:48:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13849</guid> <description>Looks can be decieving, if the DDG-1000 is indeed stealthly, it could quite possibly look much much smaller than the decidedly unstealthy Ticonderoga cruisers or the partially stealthy Burkes.Stealth in warships is becoming crucial. With Anti-Ship Ballistic missiles, you want a way to avoid being seen, stealth gives the DDG-1000 another layer of defense. Yes, the ships are too expensive, but, given the low number produced, they are technology demonstrators. If they succeed, they&#039;ll carry in them the technologies used in new warships. And that will lead to cost savings, the newer ships, which will be produced in large numbers, will already have proven technology, technology proven by the DDG-100.As for the SM-2 or SM-3, I remember reading that for a relatively small amount of money these ships could be modified to fire those missiles, I don&#039;t think much is required.And speed boats: The DDG-1000 has much greater anti-speed boat weapons than your fabled Burke. Remember it carries to 57mm guns. The Burke can use a CIWS, 5&quot; cannon, or machine guns.Why would you want to buy Visby Corvettes? What can they do besides shore patrol? Sure, you&#039;ll have an amazing gunboat navy, be we&#039;ve seen how that turns out. (See Barbary Pirates, War of 1812)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks can be decieving, if the DDG-1000 is indeed stealthly, it could quite possibly look much much smaller than the decidedly unstealthy Ticonderoga cruisers or the partially stealthy Burkes.</p><p>Stealth in warships is becoming crucial. With Anti-Ship Ballistic missiles, you want a way to avoid being seen, stealth gives the DDG-1000 another layer of defense. Yes, the ships are too expensive, but, given the low number produced, they are technology demonstrators. If they succeed, they’ll carry in them the technologies used in new warships. And that will lead to cost savings, the newer ships, which will be produced in large numbers, will already have proven technology, technology proven by the DDG-100.</p><p>As for the SM-2 or SM-3, I remember reading that for a relatively small amount of money these ships could be modified to fire those missiles, I don’t think much is required.</p><p>And speed boats: The DDG-1000 has much greater anti-speed boat weapons than your fabled Burke. Remember it carries to 57mm guns. The Burke can use a CIWS, 5″ cannon, or machine guns.</p><p>Why would you want to buy Visby Corvettes? What can they do besides shore patrol? Sure, you’ll have an amazing gunboat navy, be we’ve seen how that turns out. (See Barbary Pirates, War of 1812)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: doc75</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13848</link> <dc:creator>doc75</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:42:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13848</guid> <description>On budget?  Who cares?  The problem is that too much is being asked of this ship and it has become unaffordable even when it is on budget.  It results in too few hulls for the fleet and a bankrupt fleet acquisition budget.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On budget?  Who cares?  The problem is that too much is being asked of this ship and it has become unaffordable even when it is on budget.  It results in too few hulls for the fleet and a bankrupt fleet acquisition budget.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jack Mehoff</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13843</link> <dc:creator>Jack Mehoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 07:03:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13843</guid> <description>The last I read, these cannot shoot the SM-2 or SM-3. Stealth?? A vessel the size of a pocket battleship is not stealthy, and all that goes right out the window when you&#039;re surrounded by 20 - 40 small speedboats armed with RPGs and large caliber automatic weapons in the Strait of Hormuz.Scrap this, and the LCS, and buy 40 to 100 Visby Class Corvettes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last I read, these cannot shoot the SM-2 or SM-3. Stealth?? A vessel the size of a pocket battleship is not stealthy, and all that goes right out the window when you’re surrounded by 20 — 40 small speedboats armed with RPGs and large caliber automatic weapons in the Strait of Hormuz.</p><p>Scrap this, and the LCS, and buy 40 to 100 Visby Class Corvettes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Byron Skinner</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13838</link> <dc:creator>Byron Skinner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:39:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13838</guid> <description>Good Evening Folks,What&#039;s missing is the &quot;current final price tag&quot; for these $2.0 billion destroyers that were sold to congress. The article says a lot about what the latest of super ships are expected to do, none of these weapons are out of the development stages yet, and of course against whom?I can hardly see the Navy using these expensive destroyers and putting them at the risk of a &quot;USS Cole&quot; event, off the coast of east Africa and the Gulf of Aden chasing 15 year old pyrates.What ever the final cost may be, and I&#039;m sure it will be excessive the three DDG-1000&#039;s will be an expensive boutique class of war ships with out any specified mission(s) not unlike the Seawolf Class Submarines. The question is begging to be asked, with a rapidly shrinking Navy can we afford to buy these &quot;Gold Plated&quot; luxury concept demonstration platforms?ALLONS,
Byron Skinner</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Evening Folks,</p><p>What’s missing is the “current final price tag” for these $2.0 billion destroyers that were sold to congress. The article says a lot about what the latest of super ships are expected to do, none of these weapons are out of the development stages yet, and of course against whom?</p><p>I can hardly see the Navy using these expensive destroyers and putting them at the risk of a “USS Cole” event, off the coast of east Africa and the Gulf of Aden chasing 15 year old pyrates.</p><p>What ever the final cost may be, and I’m sure it will be excessive the three DDG-1000’s will be an expensive boutique class of war ships with out any specified mission(s) not unlike the Seawolf Class Submarines. The question is begging to be asked, with a rapidly shrinking Navy can we afford to buy these “Gold Plated” luxury concept demonstration platforms?</p><p>ALLONS,<br
/> Byron Skinner</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ReconTeam</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13821</link> <dc:creator>ReconTeam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:19:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13821</guid> <description>Wow? DDG-1000 on track? It seems impossible.I wasn&#039;t aware that the VLS canisters on the DDG-1000 were larger, I wonder what sort of missiles they are thinking of developing for that ship.The 155mm AGS looks promising, although I have met some people who think we should have resurrected the 8 inch (203mm) MCLWG.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow? DDG-1000 on track? It seems impossible.</p><p>I wasn’t aware that the VLS canisters on the DDG-1000 were larger, I wonder what sort of missiles they are thinking of developing for that ship.</p><p>The 155mm AGS looks promising, although I have met some people who think we should have resurrected the 8 inch (203mm) MCLWG.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13812</link> <dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:40:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13812</guid> <description>Can you imagine this thing with a railgun and a full load of DEW ?  Holy crap...What is the RCS supposed to be like on this ship compared to Aegis ships?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you imagine this thing with a railgun and a full load of DEW ?  Holy crap…</p><p>What is the RCS supposed to be like on this ship compared to Aegis ships?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Drake1</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/03/a-navy-ship-on-time-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-13811</link> <dc:creator>Drake1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:04:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9403#comment-13811</guid> <description>EMAL or bust.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EMAL or bust.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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