<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Afghan Troops, Not U.S: Sen. Levin</title> <atom:link href="http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/14/more-afghan-not-u-s-troops-levin/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/14/more-afghan-not-u-s-troops-levin/</link> <description>Online Defense and Acquisition Journal</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:13:23 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Charles D Phillips, LtCol, USAF (Ret)</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/14/more-afghan-not-u-s-troops-levin/#comment-14101</link> <dc:creator>Charles D Phillips, LtCol, USAF (Ret)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:36:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9630#comment-14101</guid> <description>How timely - the media is carrying a closely related note. Herehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090914/ap_on_re_as/as_afghan_training_the_armyis a link. Summarizing: they say that 90 percent of the Afghan army cannot read, even many of the officers. So they can&#039;t read maps or directions. They do mention Sen Levin and say that the Afghan Army faces a lot of challenges. So we better count on staying there and doing most of the actual work.Sigh.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How timely — the media is carrying a closely related note. Here</p><p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090914/ap_on_re_as/as_afghan_training_the_army" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090914/ap_on_re_as/as_afghan_training_the_army</a></p><p>is a link. Summarizing: they say that 90 percent of the Afghan army cannot read, even many of the officers. So they can’t read maps or directions. They do mention Sen Levin and say that the Afghan Army faces a lot of challenges. So we better count on staying there and doing most of the actual work.</p><p>Sigh.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TB</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/14/more-afghan-not-u-s-troops-levin/#comment-14094</link> <dc:creator>TB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:12:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9630#comment-14094</guid> <description>Even if Levin got his wish and 100,000 Pashtuns joined the army tomorrow, who&#039;s going to train them?  You&#039;d still need a significant US troop increase to teach these guys how to soldier.  In the US, a well paid, well fed, and loyal citizen can become a combat ready soldier in about 18 months with a trainee/trainer ratio of about 10:1.  Factor in every hiccup we experienced in Iraq and what Charles and Michael stated and recalculate.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if Levin got his wish and 100,000 Pashtuns joined the army tomorrow, who’s going to train them?  You’d still need a significant US troop increase to teach these guys how to soldier.  In the US, a well paid, well fed, and loyal citizen can become a combat ready soldier in about 18 months with a trainee/trainer ratio of about 10:1.  Factor in every hiccup we experienced in Iraq and what Charles and Michael stated and recalculate.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Church</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/14/more-afghan-not-u-s-troops-levin/#comment-14092</link> <dc:creator>Michael Church</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:30:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9630#comment-14092</guid> <description>Politicians like this guy Levin from Michigan always give me the giggles...they are always trying to please the home crowd by babbling some nonsense about they know nothing about.Afghanistan raise an actual army right now? Yeah, right. Even if you could get the amount of personnel needed to form up to 3 battalions from opium pickers and farmers, how many of those under paid,under fed, and under educated people are you going to have loyal to your battalions when the day is done? Remember these guys love to switch sides when approached by the highest bidder. Now, do not get me wrong, but the military has the same problem that Karzi has... loyalty to the highest bidder. And when you have the kind of problems the United States and NATO has of &quot;winning the hearts and minds&quot; there is no way you can field an army in a seizable time frame.Levin old buddy...lets cut the crap, shut your mouth, and speak intelligibly. Lets let the military fight the war,and keep our big mouth shut. I am pretty sure the military knows what it needs to fight a war properly.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politicians like this guy Levin from Michigan always give me the giggles…they are always trying to please the home crowd by babbling some nonsense about they know nothing about.</p><p>Afghanistan raise an actual army right now? Yeah, right. Even if you could get the amount of personnel needed to form up to 3 battalions from opium pickers and farmers, how many of those under paid,under fed, and under educated people are you going to have loyal to your battalions when the day is done? Remember these guys love to switch sides when approached by the highest bidder. Now, do not get me wrong, but the military has the same problem that Karzi has… loyalty to the highest bidder. And when you have the kind of problems the United States and NATO has of “winning the hearts and minds” there is no way you can field an army in a seizable time frame.</p><p>Levin old buddy…lets cut the crap, shut your mouth, and speak intelligibly. Lets let the military fight the war,and keep our big mouth shut. I am pretty sure the military knows what it needs to fight a war properly.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Charles D Phillips, LtCol, USAF (Ret)</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/14/more-afghan-not-u-s-troops-levin/#comment-14090</link> <dc:creator>Charles D Phillips, LtCol, USAF (Ret)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:28:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9630#comment-14090</guid> <description>Not having all of the background that Sen Levin has, how can I question his statements? Perhaps a career actually running military units gives me some insight.When someone says that the Afghans need to more than double the numbers of the Afghan Army and police, I wonder where the simple stuff such as uniforms, radios, vehicles, etc will come from?? Where will those folks have offices and barracks and chow halls?? Afghanistan doesn&#039;t have a lot of empty buildings, and they can do some training under trees, but they have a real winter there!So it is easy to declare that this MUST be done, but I even question if Afghanistan has the available people. To put a tribesman into an Army, you have to build them up so they can handle the task. They may be wiry and tough, but subsistence farmers can&#039;t pick up a heavy pack and move forward into combat. They can spend all day harvesting opium - but carrying a load and working as a team is not what they know how to do.Even in the US, where we have lots of available people and lots of logistics, adding another brigade takes time. Of course we have a lot of overhead that Afghanistan does not have, but we have a lot of advantages as well.So, Sen Levin can say that we MUST and they SHOULD all he wants, but he does not have to get out there and try to get some enthusiastic heroin dealers to leave their villages and start acting like an army.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not having all of the background that Sen Levin has, how can I question his statements? Perhaps a career actually running military units gives me some insight.</p><p>When someone says that the Afghans need to more than double the numbers of the Afghan Army and police, I wonder where the simple stuff such as uniforms, radios, vehicles, etc will come from?? Where will those folks have offices and barracks and chow halls?? Afghanistan doesn’t have a lot of empty buildings, and they can do some training under trees, but they have a real winter there!</p><p>So it is easy to declare that this MUST be done, but I even question if Afghanistan has the available people. To put a tribesman into an Army, you have to build them up so they can handle the task. They may be wiry and tough, but subsistence farmers can’t pick up a heavy pack and move forward into combat. They can spend all day harvesting opium — but carrying a load and working as a team is not what they know how to do.</p><p>Even in the US, where we have lots of available people and lots of logistics, adding another brigade takes time. Of course we have a lot of overhead that Afghanistan does not have, but we have a lot of advantages as well.</p><p>So, Sen Levin can say that we MUST and they SHOULD all he wants, but he does not have to get out there and try to get some enthusiastic heroin dealers to leave their villages and start acting like an army.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fred thomas</title><link>http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/14/more-afghan-not-u-s-troops-levin/#comment-14088</link> <dc:creator>fred thomas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:03:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=9630#comment-14088</guid> <description>Levin is wrong on this and hopefully the people of Michigan will get rid of him in his next election. 25+% Unemployement in Michigan and a lack of understanding that Detroit could be transformed into a defense industry and also build more for these nations that we are liberating shows that this guy and the democratic party need to go...2010 we need a major shift and get back to what needs to be done.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levin is wrong on this and hopefully the people of Michigan will get rid of him in his next election. 25+% Unemployement in Michigan and a lack of understanding that Detroit could be transformed into a defense industry and also build more for these nations that we are liberating shows that this guy and the democratic party need to go…2010 we need a major shift and get back to what needs to be done.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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