Comments on: Umm. The F136 Fixed Price ‘Concept’ http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/23/umm-the-f136-fixed-price-concept/ Online Defense and Acquisition Journal Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:55:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BBBhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/23/umm-the-f136-fixed-price-concept/#comment-14867 BBB Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:01:47 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10017#comment-14867 "The Rolls-Royce unit that GE is working with is located in Indianapolis, IN, not the UK. It's the former Allison engine." WRONG! RR-UK is the company that GE is working with. RR-UK is making the main engine fan for the F136. GE works with RR-Indy (Liberty Works) on some of the VAATE activities. “The Rolls-Royce unit that GE is working with is located in Indianapolis, IN, not the UK. It’s the former Allison engine.” WRONG!

RR-UK is the company that GE is working with. RR-UK is making the main engine fan for the F136. GE works with RR-Indy (Liberty Works) on some of the VAATE activities.

]]> By: Curthttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/23/umm-the-f136-fixed-price-concept/#comment-14657 Curt Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:24:31 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10017#comment-14657 @Janon, I am guessing you are not in military contracting. For new development, such as the F136, virtually no contracts are fixed price for good reason. The F135 is not fixed price. Since I would assume there is virtually no GFM in the engine, assuming the contract is signed, that is what they will be payed in the end. Now they can probably make up any losses (if they have any) in later contracts and in parts, but a fixed cost contract would be a fixed price contract. @Janon,
I am guessing you are not in military contracting. For new development, such as the F136, virtually no contracts are fixed price for good reason. The F135 is not fixed price. Since I would assume there is virtually no GFM in the engine, assuming the contract is signed, that is what they will be payed in the end. Now they can probably make up any losses (if they have any) in later contracts and in parts, but a fixed cost contract would be a fixed price contract.

]]> By: Janonhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/23/umm-the-f136-fixed-price-concept/#comment-14653 Janon Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:13:27 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10017#comment-14653 Does anyone really think this 'fixed price' contract will mean anything? Military contracts are ALWAYS fixed price under normal circumstances. The issue is that the military changes requirements constantly, so they allow price fluctuations in the contract. They also allow for changes in raw material costs and other factors. This is a public-relations ploy by GE pure and simple, and will have so many loop-holes that it will be a joke. Does anyone really think this ‘fixed price’ contract will mean anything? Military contracts are ALWAYS fixed price under normal circumstances. The issue is that the military changes requirements constantly, so they allow price fluctuations in the contract. They also allow for changes in raw material costs and other factors. This is a public-relations ploy by GE pure and simple, and will have so many loop-holes that it will be a joke.

]]> By: rflhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/23/umm-the-f136-fixed-price-concept/#comment-14580 rfl Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:13:31 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10017#comment-14580 You might note that RR and GE are either significantly present in the US in the first case (Allison engines) or that GE is a US company; and more to the point F35 is a global airplane with more than 20% non-US content; if this is a US pitch by itself; it will not be a global sale. You might note that RR and GE are either significantly present in the US in the first case (Allison engines) or that GE is a US company; and more to the point F35 is a global airplane with more than 20% non-US content; if this is a US pitch by itself; it will not be a global sale.

]]> By: sydbarretthttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/23/umm-the-f136-fixed-price-concept/#comment-14579 sydbarrett Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:02:35 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10017#comment-14579 n - The Rolls-Royce unit that GE is working with is located in Indianapolis, IN, not the UK. It's the former Allison engine. n -
The Rolls-Royce unit that GE is working with is located in Indianapolis, IN, not the UK. It’s the former Allison engine.

]]> By: nhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/09/23/umm-the-f136-fixed-price-concept/#comment-14570 n Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:20:06 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10017#comment-14570 Rolls Royce??? Our US tax money??? Isn't there a buy American act? Rolls Royce??? Our US tax money??? Isn’t there a buy American act?

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