Comments on: US Losing Space Race http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/ Online Defense and Acquisition Journal Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:34:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: vaughn nebekerhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-80139 vaughn nebeker Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:54:12 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-80139 no wonder there lossing the space race do to US DOD defrauds it written contract when chernobyl was put out uraioum 5,000 degrees soft carben. ocadizer layer , then a hard carben. with a palamer layer anti oxagen. it the power pellit. that the chernobyl number were taken off of. no wonder there lossing the space race do to US DOD defrauds it written contract when chernobyl was put out
uraioum 5,000 degrees soft carben. ocadizer layer , then a hard carben. with a palamer layer anti oxagen. it the power pellit. that the chernobyl number were taken off of.

]]> By: vaughn nebekerhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-79824 vaughn nebeker Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:00:00 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-79824 when us dod pulled us fedreal felley fraud. an did not pay for the putting out of chernobyl. us dod created a high casulty rate. do to there desaption. buy us dod not paying up honnastly there was no money for a outer space program. technology cash on delivery. when us dod pulled us fedreal felley fraud. an did not pay for the putting out of chernobyl.
us dod created a high casulty rate. do to there desaption.
buy us dod not paying up honnastly there was no money for a outer space program.
technology cash on delivery.

]]> By: vaughn_nebekerhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-46609 vaughn_nebeker Wed, 04 May 2011 22:52:21 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-46609 It not lossing th space race. it's re tooling. The rockit just fine. I had to add faile salfs so tha i not cheeted so i can get payed. rocket range 18,000 mile an it hit a dime. it's not the rocket . it getting payed. with the space shuttel retirring. it's just slotting new pay load's for the buster rocket. sarry about the misset spelling it's that none solexiea in my vission. like having a concuhion form military service. It were th 8"inch artillery shell mesit me up. my biological famly vary unforgiving. It not lossing th space race. it’s re tooling. The rockit just fine. I had to add faile salfs so tha i not cheeted so i can get payed. rocket range 18,000 mile an it hit a dime. it’s not the rocket . it getting payed.
with the space shuttel retirring. it’s just slotting new pay load’s for the buster rocket.
sarry about the misset spelling it’s that none solexiea in my vission. like having a concuhion form military service. It were th 8“inch artillery shell mesit me up. my biological famly vary unforgiving.

]]> By: vaughn_nebekerhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-46606 vaughn_nebeker Wed, 04 May 2011 22:35:37 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-46606 now the micro mimi nuclear power supply. low radio acive carben wafe sandwich in a perix glass wit two solar cells ,with magniuem wire anti tamper =7 volt's it run the rockit flight clock. Self powering computer chip's. power nuclear wafer 21 years , silacon in ssolar cell 14 years. that's jupiter plus 4 years. the tecnology work just fine. the hang upis us dod dose not py it bills. US DOE / INEl tell me to bill US DOD at a $100,000.00 a computer chip used. at 48% intreseit. WHen US DOD pulled Fraud at chernobyl. the price of goods an services went up. now the micro mimi nuclear power supply. low radio acive carben wafe sandwich in a perix glass wit two solar cells ‚with magniuem wire anti tamper =7 volt’s it run the rockit flight clock. Self powering computer chip’s. power nuclear wafer 21 years , silacon in ssolar cell 14 years. that’s jupiter plus 4 years. the tecnology work just fine. the hang upis us dod dose not py it bills. US DOE / INEl tell me to bill US DOD at a $100,000.00 a computer chip used. at 48% intreseit. WHen US DOD pulled Fraud at chernobyl. the price of goods an services went up.

]]> By: vaughn_Nebekerhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-46605 vaughn_Nebeker Wed, 04 May 2011 22:19:57 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-46605 now some of the accounts are not nuclear with US DOD. the seven "O" ring rocket make's $2.0 Billion dollars per lonch 40 lonch'ss that $80.0 billion dollar please at 48% intreasest. pluss sub componits like the $100.0 million DE10,DE10,DE =R computer chip. I lke a roth ira ,roth 401k ,three 287 collige plans. but one can not fund heath care US DOD dose not pay its bill's. now some of the accounts are not nuclear with US DOD. the seven “O” ring rocket make’s $2.0 Billion dollars per lonch 40 lonch’ss that $80.0 billion dollar please at 48% intreasest. pluss sub componits
like the $100.0 million DE10,DE10,DE =R computer chip. I lke a roth ira ‚roth 401k ‚three 287 collige plans.
but one can not fund heath care US DOD dose not pay its bill’s.

]]> By: R. C. Jackmanhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-19371 R. C. Jackman Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:13:42 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-19371 What is man without a vision for the future? What is man when he succumbs to the mere mundane? In the long history of our planet, will man be just another dinosaur that lived for a time and then passed away? Admittedly, our government has a habit of botching brave new projects. We begin projects (space, super collider), decide they cost too much, abandon them, begin again, and in the end spend a lot more money than we would have if we would have completed what we started from the beginning.The money spent is not wasted. It creates jobs. It leads to new scientific discoveries. Spinoffs enhance the national income. New industries are developed. Support industries profit. And the money itself is spent back into the national economy.Our President talks about us becoming a second-rate nation. We have already lost our former greatness. We are the world's greatest debtor nation. Now we have to rely on other nations for transportation to and from our own space station. We have no pride. What is man without a vision for the future? What is man when he succumbs to the mere mundane? In the long history of our planet, will man be just another dinosaur that lived for a time and then passed away? Admittedly, our government has a habit of botching brave new projects. We begin projects (space, super collider), decide they cost too much, abandon them, begin again, and in the end spend a lot more money than we would have if we would have completed what we started from the beginning.

The money spent is not wasted. It creates jobs. It leads to new scientific discoveries. Spinoffs enhance the national income. New industries are developed. Support industries profit. And the money itself is spent back into the national economy.

Our President talks about us becoming a second-rate nation. We have already lost our former greatness. We are the world’s greatest debtor nation. Now we have to rely on other nations for transportation to and from our own space station. We have no pride.

]]> By: PIFhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-16840 PIF Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:31:09 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-16840 The Russians allegedly manually destoryed their shuttle version. Meanwhile, we have a political system in which one party wants to give free stuff to people by spending unimaginable amounts of money, and another which wants to give free stuff to people by spending responsibilly. This is crazy making. What we need is a party with the political will to have a GOAL and a plan we can understand giving all the things Barry mentions (including re-industialization) as part of the road to that goal. A true manned space exploration program is (IMHO) the answer. Like the Orion motto (Mars by 1965, Venus by 1970), there needs to also be a very simple motto. The Russians allegedly manually destoryed their shuttle version.

Meanwhile, we have a political system in which one party wants to give free stuff to people by spending unimaginable amounts of money, and another which wants to give free stuff to people by spending responsibilly.

This is crazy making.

What we need is a party with the political will to have a GOAL and a plan we can understand giving all the things Barry mentions (including re-industialization) as part of the road to that goal. A true manned space exploration program is (IMHO) the answer. Like the Orion motto (Mars by 1965, Venus by 1970), there needs to also be a very simple motto.

]]> By: PIFhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-16842 PIF Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:44:16 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-16842 Right! If the US had not lost its political will in the 60s, then not only would we have been to all the planets in this system (via {Gen One} 10,000 ton intersystem Orion ships), but at least one 40,000,000 ton interstellar Orion ship would be well on its way to some other star system. Right!

If the US had not lost its political will in the 60s, then not only would we have been to all the planets in this system (via {Gen One} 10,000 ton intersystem Orion ships), but at least one 40,000,000 ton interstellar Orion ship would be well on its way to some other star system.

]]> By: PIFhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-16841 PIF Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:36:05 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-16841 That would be Axelrod, Emanuel, Jarrett - and of course, input from G. Soros and the Tides Foundation. That would be Axelrod, Emanuel, Jarrett — and of course, input from G. Soros and the Tides Foundation.

]]> By: PIFhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-16839 PIF Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:03:44 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-16839 "...satellites that can intercept electronic waves. Meaning, we can intercept any conversation on the entire planet" was going on in the 1970s, so what's new here? “…satellites that can intercept electronic waves. Meaning, we can intercept any conversation on the entire planet” was going on in the 1970s, so what’s new here?

]]> By: PIFhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-16838 PIF Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:57:33 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-16838 "the Chinese will be the first to put a man on mars." And thereby hold the high ground militarily... if they can get to Mars and we cannot, then, should they desire, they can send rocks back to Earth, not only as raw material sources, but as weapons to fall on designated targets... “the Chinese will be the first to put a man on mars.”

And thereby hold the high ground militarily… if they can get to Mars and we cannot, then, should they desire, they can send rocks back to Earth, not only as raw material sources, but as weapons to fall on designated targets…

]]> By: PIFhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-16837 PIF Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:52:45 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-16837 "I wish we were spending tenfold on NASA." You can say that again - 100 X would suit me fine. “I wish we were spending tenfold on NASA.” You can say that again — 100 X would suit me fine.

]]> By: Steve Ghttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-16302 Steve G Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:15:24 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-16302 You hit the nail on the head. You hit the nail on the head.

]]> By: Bill Snowhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-15848 Bill Snow Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:57:05 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-15848 I have expected this The U.S.A. always drifts to the left and the nay sayers sooner or later,Every damn thing we want to or have developed has been done with a struggle with the fools that take our money and run back home to their district with it. I remember Dont go to the Moon forget the development of a good ta WE THE PEOPLE what a laughAs guests of honor in the 90's in washingtOn about 300 EX-P.O.W.'s were treated lousy the so called dignitaries didnot even give us a glance from the first 50 rows of the theatre where the meeningless speach's were given We sat in the bleachers 80 and 90 year old Vets. We get to the luncheon they provided for us and thee was hardly any food left and not a drop of beer or any oyher adult refreshments You see the the one being honored road in school busses and the elete road in limos. Incidentlly we paid our own way to WashingtOn All they did was sit us in the top rows and buss us to a phantom lunch . Go ahead destroy OUR COUNTRY MAKE US WEEK SO THAT OUR ENEMIES AND WE HAVE PLENTY< CAN WITH THE HELP OF THE U.N. NEUTER US AS A NATION. I have expected this The U.S.A. always drifts to the left and the nay sayers sooner or later,Every damn thing we want to or have developed has been done with a struggle with the fools that take our money and run back home to their district with it. I remember Dont go to the Moon forget the development of a good ta WE THE PEOPLE what a laughAs guests of honor in the 90’s in washingtOn about 300 EX-P.O.W.‘s were treated lousy the so called dignitaries didnot even give us a glance from the first 50 rows of the theatre where the meeningless speach’s were given We sat in the bleachers 80 and 90 year old Vets. We get to the luncheon they provided for us and thee was hardly any food left and not a drop of beer or any oyher adult refreshments You see the the one being honored road in school busses and the elete road in limos. Incidentlly we paid our own way to WashingtOn All they did was sit us in the top rows and buss us to a phantom lunch . Go ahead destroy OUR COUNTRY MAKE US WEEK SO THAT OUR ENEMIES AND WE HAVE PLENTY< CAN WITH THE HELP OF THE U.N. NEUTER US AS A NATION.

]]> By: Sebastian Petkiewiczhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-15700 Sebastian Petkiewicz Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:46:38 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-15700 Introdution as far as Satelites go wheter (Leo, Meo, Geo) to many companies paid NASA huge amounts of money to launch thier satelite into position, then when it came to operate the satelite from the ground the company was bankrupted, so I guess that space it self was telling the United States of becoming bankrupted, now we have these satelites orbiting, and there not operating, same thing with the telecomunications industry in India, United States sold, huge mistakes, now as far as the Space Race I think that Russia is manning for a trip to Mars in the year 2020, to bad not many ordinary Americans could have not been recruited, making it more of an international program, but picking up space as a hobby, I think it's probably impossible to travel without the speed of light, using light itself as a vechile could widden the possibility of exploring space unmanned. Introdution as far as Satelites go wheter (Leo, Meo, Geo) to many companies paid NASA huge amounts of money to launch thier satelite into position, then when it came to operate the satelite from the ground the company was bankrupted, so I guess that space it self was telling the United States of becoming bankrupted, now we have these satelites orbiting, and there not operating, same thing with the telecomunications industry in India, United States sold, huge mistakes, now as far as the Space Race I think that Russia is manning for a trip to Mars in the year 2020, to bad not many ordinary Americans could have not been recruited, making it more of an international program, but picking up space as a hobby, I think it’s probably impossible to travel without the speed of light, using light itself as a vechile could widden the possibility of exploring space unmanned.

]]> By: PrahaPartizanhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-15581 PrahaPartizan Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:33:05 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-15581 No, instead we should give billions to people who promise us the moon and then can't deliver scat. That's the ongoing problem with the defense and space contractors in this country, as you well know. If they ever were held to the contract provisions they signed onto without using their political muscle to get fixes implemented in the middle of the night in defense legislation hell would freeze over. Those firms would also go out of business through sheer incompetence except for the excellence of their lobbyists and PR staffs. Is that the problem you're trying to fix? No, instead we should give billions to people who promise us the moon and then can’t deliver scat. That’s the ongoing problem with the defense and space contractors in this country, as you well know. If they ever were held to the contract provisions they signed onto without using their political muscle to get fixes implemented in the middle of the night in defense legislation hell would freeze over. Those firms would also go out of business through sheer incompetence except for the excellence of their lobbyists and PR staffs. Is that the problem you’re trying to fix?

]]> By: Gordon of Khartoumhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-15576 Gordon of Khartoum Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:19:55 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-15576 Absolutely RIght! We want teh money but we don't want to get our hands dirty. "The business of Aerica is Business" didn't mean sitting around looking at Excel Pie Chrats and making the really idiotically, short term decision. "Waht are my options" is anybody's game-including Hillary Clinton. Making eth right descisions is harder. Making options, is leadership! Absolutely RIght!
We want teh money but we don’t want to get our hands dirty.
“The business of Aerica is Business” didn’t mean sitting around looking at Excel Pie Chrats and making the really idiotically, short term decision.
“Waht are my options” is anybody’s game-including Hillary Clinton.
Making eth right descisions is harder.
Making options, is leadership!

]]> By: TJRedneckhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-15509 TJRedneck Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:13:30 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-15509 We could easily have space dominance, problem is we keep cutting funds. I will say this again and again until I am blue in the face, WE WOULD HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY IF WE WEREN'T WASTING ALL OF THIS MONEY ON ALL THIS STUPID SOCIALISM! Sorry you lazy bums, no more welfare, no more billions of dollars for AIDS in Africa, no it is not the job of the federal govt to provide free prescription drugs, no more Ethanol, yes this is just the tip of the iceburg, you give me the power and I'll take care of the budget! We could easily have space dominance, problem is we keep cutting funds. I will say this again and again until I am blue in the face, WE WOULD HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY IF WE WEREN’T WASTING ALL OF THIS MONEY ON ALL THIS STUPID SOCIALISM! Sorry you lazy bums, no more welfare, no more billions of dollars for AIDS in Africa, no it is not the job of the federal govt to provide free prescription drugs, no more Ethanol, yes this is just the tip of the iceburg, you give me the power and I’ll take care of the budget!

]]> By: Space Racehttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-15504 Space Race Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:50:22 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-15504 I think Hank is on the money with that comment. Most of our problems are self inflicted. Just when we start devoloping things that would work and they start comming together those idiots in washington decide to pull the funding. Because of our stupid policies we cant allow civilians to go up in our shuttles which the Russians been doing for some time now they cut through that red tape. If we sent 5-10 civilians up at 10,000,000 usd a pop imagine what that could help pay for? So far the Russians are kicking our butts in the commercial space tourisim industry. Whe have private companies working hard with a fraction of resourses to get us up in space goverment needds to start working with them. Biglow corp launched 2 inflatable stations (though not manned yet) in space and so far seams to be working like they were desinged. We need serious reforms and cut alot of redtape and soon or we will loose our edge in space. Most projects were canceled due to cost and technology which ok back then they were not avaialbe but technology has progressed since then and we should take another look at those nixed projects. We should not even be debating on establishing a moon base. That should have been established already same goes for the Mars. We should be shooting for Jupiter or Saturn by now if we kept moving forward instead of acting like wusses when one little thing goes wrong everyone gets scared. Those people thought sucks they died they knew the risks and to listen to nay sayers and stop things when one thing goes wrong has hurt us more than anything those people need to be shot. Lets get moving lets get to the Moon, Mars and beyond. I think Hank is on the money with that comment. Most of our problems are self inflicted. Just when we start devoloping things that would work and they start comming together those idiots in washington decide to pull the funding. Because of our stupid policies we cant allow civilians to go up in our shuttles which the Russians been doing for some time now they cut through that red tape. If we sent 5–10 civilians up at 10,000,000 usd a pop imagine what that could help pay for? So far the Russians are kicking our butts in the commercial space tourisim industry. Whe have private companies working hard with a fraction of resourses to get us up in space goverment needds to start working with them. Biglow corp launched 2 inflatable stations (though not manned yet) in space and so far seams to be working like they were desinged. We need serious reforms and cut alot of redtape and soon or we will loose our edge in space. Most projects were canceled due to cost and technology which ok back then they were not avaialbe but technology has progressed since then and we should take another look at those nixed projects. We should not even be debating on establishing a moon base. That should have been established already same goes for the Mars. We should be shooting for Jupiter or Saturn by now if we kept moving forward instead of acting like wusses when one little thing goes wrong everyone gets scared. Those people thought sucks they died they knew the risks and to listen to nay sayers and stop things when one thing goes wrong has hurt us more than anything those people need to be shot. Lets get moving lets get to the Moon, Mars and beyond.

]]> By: Garry Owenhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/10/19/us-losing-space-race/#comment-16157 Garry Owen Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:33:58 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=10674#comment-16157 If the U.S, continued our dominance in the space program BHO would to go on another world tour and apoligize for the U.S. to the world! You are right Mark - the whole hope and change thing is not working. Predictions are now that the job market will never return to what it was. This may also include the space agency. The way we are going we will be the laughing stock of socialist Eurpoe! And remember - President Bush can be the scape goat for so long before this mess belongs to the Democrats. If the U.S, continued our dominance in the space program BHO would to go on another world tour and apoligize for the U.S. to the world! You are right Mark — the whole hope and change thing is not working. Predictions are now that the job market will never return to what it was. This may also include the space agency. The way we are going we will be the laughing stock of socialist Eurpoe! And remember — President Bush can be the scape goat for so long before this mess belongs to the Democrats.

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