My logic is, that with stealth, unless you go full fledged to make it an all aspect stealth airframe, then it isn’t worth the additional costs when you balance it against the minor capability improvements.

I don’t think people have, to date, looked at the F-35 program objectively. I’m sure now with the F-22 done, people might start to take notice of the train wreak that the JSF program has become.

So let’s get back on-topic shall we?

…and “That’s all I have to say about that!”

Now for foaming at the mouth goes, they and the whole crew of that cabal should be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity. In the Nuremburg trials water boarding was consider a crime. Just because a Fascist regime writes laws that say its ok to break the law does not excuse or give them right to do so.

You can say what ever you wish Col. about those of us on the left, we both fought and served for that right. You can distort the truth about the last regime; they were very good at that too, but you cannot hid the fact that they lied to get us in a war. Which in reality is more of an occupation than a war? For what? So some deserter and a draft dodger can strut their stuff and call themselves war time leaders when all they are, are chicken hawks: This mess has cost the lives of thousands of civilians, and wasted the blood of our brave young warriors and run this country into deep into debt by several trillion dollars. So when you talk about foaming at the mouth, remember three things, 1.It was on their watch that 911 happened even when warned in advance. 2. There were no nukes, that was all a put up deal, 3 Any historian will tell you that with the last regime, it is the closest that we have ever come to having the our constitution subverted and this Nation we both love so much becoming a Fascist State.

In the words of forest Gump, that is all I have to say about that.

Most of the capret bombing that was done was done by the BUF’s. The B1B was not designed for large conventional pay loads.

As far as the body armor goes, when my neighbors son asked his dad to see if he can get him body armor becase he does not have any speaks volums as to the value the past administration put on the lives of our troops.

And while I partialy agree with your observation on the humvees, that does not deminish the fact that the are called watermellons by the troops because they are green on the outside and red from the troops blood on the inside. All because a lack of armor

Also regarding the HMMWV situation, the military cannot be blamed for the lack of armored HMMWVs in the beginning of the war. The HMMWV was never intended to be an armored car. And if all of our supply units are driving around in armored vehicles, it reduces the amount of gear they can bring up to the front. It made sense from a logistics standpoint although it was not suited for COIN operations in both Afghanistan and Iraq.

Likewise, the lack of body armor among support and rear-line units was excusable for an Army prepared to fight conventional wars. What is not excusable were the delays in getting new equipment up to the front.

The last president did not desert his duty, he was simply not cut out for the job, much like Obama. Meanwhile Rumsfield and Cheney may have been fools, but they were not guilty of crimes against humanity despite what the far left will foam at the mouth at.

Yes somethings have changed thanks the citizens and the news getting involved, like in our number one veterans hospital with green slime in the toilets. GI’s who kill their spouses 2 weeks after being home because they are afraid to seek mental health.

That is where the money needs to go, not in to the pockets of some corp. or bureaucrat and people like Six deferment Dick and rummy the dummy not being tried for dereliction of duty, war crimes and crimes against humanly. If you want to start calling Presidents names, how about desertion of duty like the last one?

We can argue all of this or non of this, but none of it will mean s— if we don’t start electing people who will represent the people and honor their job and country instead of the damn dollar And worry about who is scratching whos back in order to get ahead while the country and its military suffer.

COL® Ehrhard has some good ideas but adding 99 more F-22s to give up 905 F-35As is not one of them at a savings of just $50–65 billion. Is that what keeps the USAF from bleeding white? Whatever happened to quantity having a quality all its own?

BTW, I had already scanned his document a month ago, and read all the Australian stuff and Bill Sweetman and ELP rants and forum arguments. How do you think I knew all the L-Band “threat” counterarguments.

Pretty amazing how an aircraft replete with F-22 lessons, engineers, and R&D is “high risk” and China/Russia aerospace is a done deal.

Wasn’t that what partly contributed to the fall of the Nazi’s ?

Didn’t we (and the Soviets) win WWII with massive numbers of affordable built war materials and men?

Didn’t Eisenhower warn us about the Military Industrial Complex?

Considering our economy, the state our nation is in and the rise of other world powers with China and a renewed Russia, even India and Brazil on a smaller scale or the good old EU…

How can we be so blind to the historical lessons of the past?

Are we just like the Roman Empire?