Pace of Afghan Debate Appropriate

Pace of Afghan Debate Appropriate

It was all things Afghanistan and Pakistan at the House Armed Services Committee with lawmakers weighing the viability of a counterterrorism approach versus population centric counterinsurgency and Afghan commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s new strategy. An interesting aspect of this debate is the level of knowledge shown by some members of Congress on everything from the proper troop to civilian ratio called for in classic counterinsurgency doctrine to the intricacies of the Tajik versus Pashtun balance in Afghanistan.

The Obama administration has taken some serious heat in recent days for what former Vice President Dick Cheney called “dithering” over the decision to escalate in Afghanistan or not. The reliably hawkish Tom Donnelly of AEI, part of the escalate often and everywhere crowd, even provided an exhaustive timeline of the Obama administration’s “long road to indecision” that can be found here.

Two prominent retired generals Barry McCaffrey and David Barno, testifying before the HASC Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee on Thursday, both said it was important the administration take some time on this one. McCaffrey pointed to what he called one of the most “shameful” episodes in recent history when former SecDef Donald Rumsfeld claimed he was never asked for his viewpoint on invading Iraq before the war. It is important that the senior Obama administration officials take their time and think through the various options because once they decide, “they will own the decision.”


While urging full deliberation, both generals were pretty clear how they want that decision to ultimately turn out. For his part, McCaffrey favors escalation and called the over-the-horizon counterterrorism approach a “silly option.” He suggests sending 100,000 more troops, not just the 40,000 reportedly wanted by McChrystal. Promises have been made, he said, and not just at the national level when the Bush administration said the U.S. would lead an effort to rebuild Afghanistan. Young American troops on the ground in Afghanistan, waging a war for the will of the Afghan people, make promises every day that the U.S. will be there for them and protect them if they take sides against the Taliban.

McCaffrey said a tribal and ethnic war is underway for control of both Afghanistan and Pakistan and the security implications of Islamic extremists seizing power in either location are too serious not to escalate the U.S. military commitment to the region. Because of the inability of non-governmental and aid organizations to function in Afghanistan due to the security concerns, he recommended sending at least two engineering brigades and a slew of Army Corps of Engineer folks to work on large development projects.

If the military effort stumbles in Afghanistan and the U.S. were to seriously draw down there, it would likely spell the end of NATO as a military alliance, said Barno. To declare success and pull out now, would simply mean the U.S. military would be forced to re-invade the country at some future date when Islamic radicals take power in Kabul and re-establish a terrorist sanctuary there. Barno also favors an escalation of the troop commitment in Afghanistan along the lines of McChrystal’s rumored 40,000 troop request.

Many Afghans have been forced to choose a side in this war, and they have sided with the U.S. and NATO against the Taliban, said Beth Ellen Cole, of the United States Institute of Peace. A Taliban takeover could condemn many of them to a very bleak future, she said, “we have a lot of exposed people on the ground right now.” She pointed to efforts at reconstruction and peacekeeping in both Rwanda and Sierra Leone as examples that the international community can in fact improve the lot of war torn countries.

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Yesterday on Meet The Press, conservative intellectual George Will said: “Cheney should have dithered on Iraq.” He also thinks the Afghanistan mission is a muddled boondoggle. When I heard that from a stalwart conservative I looked out the window to see if pigs were flying.

Respectfully,

Daniel Russ
Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup​.com

True conservatives don’t believe in nation building, so Will is actually being consistant.

While I wish they would move a bit faster, I think given the magnitude of the decision the pace is appropriate. We have a contested election, rife corruption, and a runoff which looks like it will do little to deal with either.

Should we decide to dig in and fight in Afghanistan it will be a long drawn out affair with little gain for the US. There are plenty of reasons to stay, I think anyone with a heart sees the suffering and carnage; however at some point we have to deal with the negative cost/benefit ratio.

Now consider the economy is off the rails, the dollar is on fire, and our increasing spending is simultaneoulsy suffocating and resusitating the economy. I know what I’d do, but no one elected me. The President may be taking his time but I’m supportive. This is hardly a decision (combined with several decisions it affects) to be made by flipping a coin.….

It’s a Catch-22. We are told that our mission of suppressing an insurgency is necessary first, if we are to then stop the build up of terrorist organizations.

That means a stable central government. I am very skeptical, given the lessons of history, whether creating a stable central government is even possible for people who basically have lived under clans and blood-lines for centuries.

If I were Obama, I would tell NATO that if they agree with McChrystal’s plan (sp?) then they should man up with at least 50% of the occupational and combat forces instead of insisting that we do most of the heavy work.

Respectfully,

Daniel Russ
Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup​.com

Give credit where it is due.

Immediately after the fall of the Taliban, NATO wanted to jump in with both feet and clean the place up. Instead NATO’s mission was limited to the area of Kabul at the insistance of our government. The administration wanted to keep Afghanistan as America’s private terrorist hunting preserve.

Asking NATO to take up more of the mission that we shut them out of in the first place is not going to fly very well. Especially since the mess we want them to clean up is largly due to our neglicting and short changing the Afghan theater for so long.

Russ — couldn’t agree with you more on the Catch-22; making things worse I think the President and his advisors are smart enough to know that from here on out if they continue the conflict it’s their war now. They could walk away and begin de-escalation; but if things co horribly wrong they were soft on “terror”, however if they stay and things continue to deteriorate then

I also have to say I think your suggestion is inspired. A speech/call/diplomatic effort for international support would put some of the onus on the international community. Right now most of them are sending token units and support, while playing armchair quarterback. I would also reinforce that the international community is much more likely to be effected by a collapse in Afghanistan in the near term than the US is…..

Anyone who thinks Nato is going to be convinced to commit more soldiers (based on the strength of the President’s personal appeal) is kidding themselves. Italy took out troops to supposedly put in police, and(don’t quote me on ti) Germany has still to send trainers and or police) it committed. This is all the Administration is going to get apart from Britain

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