China Declares Space War Inevitable

China Declares Space War Inevitable

The Obama adminstration must react responsibly to China’s declaration that military operations in space are inevitable, a top China expert says.

“How will the US react to Chinese diplomatic efforts in light of the PLA’s blunt statements on space warfare? This is something the Obama administration has to take into account,” said Dean Cheng, China specialist at Washington’s Heritage Foundation. “Are we going to see outrage, any meaningful reactions to the Chinese statements or again that it was someone speaking out of school and we just aren’t sure.”

Cheng was referring to what appears to mark a major shift in Chinese military and arms control strategy. The head of the PRC’s air force has said in an official interview that military operations in space are an “historical inevitability.”

“As far as the revolution in military affairs is concerned, the competition between military forces is moving towards outer space… this is a historical inevitability and a development that cannot be turned back,” said air force commander Xu Qiliang in an interview with the official People’s Liberation Army Daily.

“Only power can protect peace,” the commander said in an interview celebrating the 60th anniversary of the founding of the PRC’s air force.

For years, Chinese diplomats and military leaders have hewn to the line that the PRC pursued only peaceful uses of outer space. Chinese diplomats, working with Russia, pushed their own version of peaceful agreements on the uses of space, submitting a draft treaty in 2008 at the UN Conference on Disarmament that would have prohibited space-based missile defenses, among other things.

Joan Johnson Freese, professor at the Naval War College and one of the top experts on Chinese miltiary space policy and capabilities, bemoaned the general’s comments, saying they sound “eerily like documents and statements from USAF Space Command.” Freese said the only difference between the two sides is that “the Chinese are still calling for superiority rather than dominance.”

The Bush administration’s National Space Policy, released in October 2006, rejected new space arms control agreements if they would “limit” U.S. options in space. Some analysts believe China was reacting to this policy when it performed its January 11, 2007 anti-satellite test.

However, Cheng of the Heritage Foundation said he does not think the general’s statement “is really much of a departure from what the PLA has been thinking for some time.… What you have is the PLA making that statement publicly.”

Cheng thinks the most significant fact about the general’s declaration is that it came from an Air Force official. Unlike the United States, where the Air Force is inextricably linked to space policy and operations, “until three or four years ago the [Chinese] Air Force did not have an overt role in space issues. What does this suggest about who actually runs China’s space policy and military issues?” he wondered.

Cheng said the policy declaration did not necessarily indicate that the PLA was making new policy. After all, there have been clear indications that the PLA was leaning this way. After the Chinese anti-satellite test, Senior Colonel Yao Yunzhu of the PLA’s Academy of Military Sciences said that “outer space is going to be weaponized in our lifetime” and that “if there is a space superpower, it’s not going to be alone, and China is not going to be the only one.”

But Cheng said, “the PLA has never said they would not do military space operations. They just haven’t been quoted at all. Now the silence has ended,” he said.

As an example of how the PLA sometimes makes policy — something the Foreign Ministry can rarely do since it does not have direct access to the PRC president, as does the military — without public declarations having been made, he pointed to the anti-satellite test. While China’s Foreign Ministry hemmed and hawed about just why China performed the test, some of the people who designed the missile’s seeker later received awards.

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Most likely the Chicoms will start it too.
(He left that part out.)

Time to man up and start putting full resourses towards national defense. I say start with increasing the budget to $1 trilion, then start pouring money into defensive and offensive space weapons. Why wait until our current space assets are put at risk?

It’s ok. Obama will ask the Chinese pretty-please not to. Right after he apologizes on behalf of all American 5 year olds who ever made “me go pee-pee in your coke” jokes. Remember, China may have 5x as many people as we do but somehow they qualify as an oppressed minority.

Good Evening Folks,

Rather strange statements from the PLAAF. Before everyone get in a huff about this read the second to last statement by Senior Colonel Yao Yunzhu, this highly and somewhat confusing and speculative statement is more in the Chinese tradition, is most like indicative of Chinas Intentions.

Of course this kind of rhetoric is red meat to winger think tanks like Heritage, and perhaps that’s the audience the Chinese want to poke a stick at.

Some items to consider although China has had some much heralded successes in space they have had a lot more failures, some huge failures in fact.

Most of China’s space technology is from foreign sources like Russia, the U.S., Israel and the EU very little home grown. Before anyone gets excited also consider if a country is going to do something they do it first and them announce.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

If that happens our space military resources may be in danger of getting knock out. The big question is if it happens what are our responses?
Perhaps its a good idea to impose an international rule about somebody’s military resources right of protection.

It‘could be nothing. Maybe he has a bad day.

@ Bobbymike:

Thats a recipe for another arms race, and inevitable disaster. Also that extra money: where would it come from? The only reason you guys are starting to come out of the recession is because China bought all your debt.

They have your economy completely by the balls and should they choose they could do wayyyy more damage using economic sanctions & cyber attacks that they would in conventional or space warfare (even though a synchronised attack against the american GPS satellites would do some major major damage)

If you want to continue to be able to buy yourself cheap sneakers and iPods, dont mess with china!!

Then again, the USA has for all intents and purposes already weaponised space. Not in that they have actual weapons in space, but there are a lot of military satellites up there, whose main job is to help you kill bad guys, which although a noble goal still means that the chinese arent actually being aggresive with this statement, theyre just pointing out the truth, as i have a creeping suspicion the good ol US of A is not gonna be happy once the chinese start sending up all their military equipment into orbit.

This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 11/5/2009, at The Unreligious Right

The motivations for someone who thinks they need to be prepared for conflict with the US to develop counter-space capabilities have been pretty clear at least since Gulf War I:

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http://​www​.fas​.org/​s​p​p​/​m​i​l​i​t​a​r​y​/​p​r​o​g​r​a​m​/​a​s​a​t​/​a​t_9...

The likely source of eventual friction will be bumping up against each others commercial ambitions beyond and in LEO. I.e. Water sources on the moon, high quality ore on asteroids, Libation points for manufacturing. The Conflict is closer to what happened during the colonial era of 1600’s/1700’s. Less likely if we 1) set up rules now for exploiting resources past Earth (realistically..i.e. if you have permient base on it you own it for x radius, mining rights, etc.), 2) put in strong treaty alliances with teeth, 3) have a perminant presence that can land and occupy the assests of violators in HEO or higher. It is not space weaponry we need, as much as space infantry and a perminant presence in key locations with factories exploiting strong economic value. Do this, and they won’t want to mess with it, because they will be making money too.

It didn’t take this general going public to get our attention. We’ve been at this game awhile. In fact, it mentions the policy that rejects limitations on US options in space. If I were in Chinese shoes, I would do the same thing to ensure I’m not dancing to someone elses tunes.

Good Morning Folks,

China is many years away from being any kind of viable threat to the united States in Space. While the have done some demonstration stunts like intercepting a satellite in orbit and launching an ISR platform, that they can’t communicate with, thing the US does routinely. China is still a log way away from challenging the US in a Space Race.

One thing to keep in mind about the Chinese and information, first is ALL public releases goes through the PLA and the CCP before anything is released and the Chinese are masters a crafting scrips that are dripping in contradictions, unstated meanings and full of implied messages. The Chinese consider this type of messages as an instrument of warfare.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

China may be thinking that the best way to negate our network centric advantage, is to take out our satellites. The links below describe Chinese actions to counteract American conventional capability.

Naval Expansion Makes China a Growing Power

http://​www​.aviationweek​.com/​a​w​/​g​e​n​e​r​i​c​/​s​t​o​r​y​.​jsp?...

China adds precision strike to capabilities

http://​www​.aviationweek​.com/​a​w​/​g​e​n​e​r​i​c​/​s​t​o​r​y​.​jsp?...

If memory serves me, I’ve read that China each year enrolls 200 times more engineering students than does the USA. That the USA currently uses Chinese scientists and engineers in the highest levels of technological development should open many eyes and minds. It won’t be long before China has the ability financially and intellectually to be able to do just about anything China wants.

I think they may have the capabilities alreay. They (Chinese, and Rusian) are good in copying things. I read one article on this site saying that most chinese citizen are good in hacking. They might have our technology already.

We should stabilize our network and match their capabilities and others nations that are anti americans. And keep it confidential and hackers proof.

Perhaps taking a page from the Reagan doctrine to economically break the Soviets.? Rehtoric designed to force an increase in our percent of GDP spent on “protecting” space while they also hold most of our debt?

Good Afternoon Folks,

Drake 1, I’m sure China would like that very much. But a few problems China has take out a satellite once, one of it’s own that had homing devices that brought the intercepter to it, the US won’t be so accommodating I’m almost sure. China is still developmentally a very long way from fielding an SM3 Block 6 AD System that the USN now has operational in the Pacific.

Meanwhile the US is not resting on it’s laurels, new generations of Ages II are coming on line, SSN AD systems, CSD communications systems are becoming a reality, UUV’s that can be controlled by a submarine underwater are becoming a reality and this is just the stuff in open source that we and China know about.

Chinese Naval power is mostly an illusion Drake 1. Their ISR is limited to communicating with satellites only over their own territory, beyond the horizon they are blind, the Chinese have no communication relays beyond their borders, no AWACS, they crashed there only AWACS will all the engineers on board. This would make any early warning on an approaching naval Battle Group at best problematic.

As I’m sure you are aware Drake 1, China has recently purchased two old Soviet era “communication ships” from Russia to deal with this problem, but I’m sure if they ever become operational they would be targets 1A and 1B in the first minutes of a shooting war with the US, Japan, South Korea or India.

It is very unlikely that China could even defend it 1st. Island defense line, let alone the 2nd. Island line. A Blue water PLAN is not likely in this century.

Stephen, you are correct about the engineering students but there is a flaw in the program. When these students complete their educations and internships in foreign companies, something happens they don’t want to come back to China. It appears that the wages and life in the west is more to their liking. Most of those that do go back to China got to work for foreign companies doing business in China at far higher wages the Chinese enterprises can pay.

In 2008 the PLA started a ROTC type program to lure students into a paid education in a foreign country for service in the PLA, they are hoping this will build a future cadre of officers for the technological military they envision. The catch is they must join and be members in good standing of the CCP. It’s way to early to tell if the program is working or not.

Roland, no China is not good at copying things (reverse engineering) they still buy heavily from foreign countries, diesel motors from Germany, electronics from France and Israel, military hardware like ships, submarines and aircraft from Russia.

A little known bit of information when the Soviet Union collapsed and shut down most of Russia’s defense industry, a lot of the skilled workers and (lower and Mid level) management became foreign contract workers in China and twenty years later they still are the backbone of a lot of Chinese military industry.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

The books Space Wars and Counter Space by Michael J. Coumatos, William B. Scott and William J. Birnes are very enlightening to this topic.

China spends 70 billion on defense, 10% of our on budget expenditures. They are a minimal threat to the United States.

Even if there was a space war, the Decepticons will just kick all our asses anyways.

I think we need to defeat China’s Military with new special operations. Like introducing acquisition reform to their system.

Yeah but they get a whole lot more bang for the buck with their domestic programs since stuff like the cost of Chinese labor is so much more cheaper than the cost of American labor.

How do you propose to pay for that increased spending? Because in case you didn’t know, we are in a recession and the government is $12 trillion in the whole with future obligations/liabilities to the tune of $70 trillion — and unemployment is over 10%. Oh, we’re also in two wars. If the dems force health care on us, we’re toast. What we need to do is cut spending so taxes can be lowered to jumpstart the economy.

Thank you, Bill Clinton, for sending Loral and Hughes engineers to China to help them solve the problematic second-stage separation issues that kept them from fielding a missile that could achieve orbital flight.
You deserve a blindfold and a cigarette, you heinous traitor.

If we can get them to implement our system of “acquisition reforms” they will pay 200% more, field everything five years late, and get less of it!

And they’d still fare better than we do with our current acquisition system.

Im not so sure that Qiliang is on the ball with his analysis — i actually fall ibto line more with Propellerheads view point, i think that a space ‘war’ is unlikely, however, i can see some stand-offs happening regarding commercial interests up there in the future.

Is the war office going to be re-stationed there also?

HMS approved?

If you don’t want to support the Chinese military, boycott their products sold at Wal-Mart.

US collusion with the Chinese government is bipartisan, GW Bush and GHW Bush did it at least as much as Clinton. Poppy Bush was even the first diplomat sent (by Nixon) to represent the US government in Beijing. Crooks crooks crooks.

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The west should keep every other nation from entering space in anyway not regulated by themselves. There’s no need to allow a new cold war to start, unless of course the military Industrial complex deems it necessary.

War in space why not! human beings make war everywhere. its time for human to perish disapear from earth. i am ashame to be human beings, we maby are the most savage species in the whole universe,

then we should be cutting the wasteful spending on fraud-riddled and ineffective social programs, which are not part of the Federal government’s mandate in the Constitution anyway. national defense is part of the Federal mandate, so it makes sense to increase Federal defense budgets, and pay for them by cutting programs and departments that never should have come into being.

The difference is that the cold war may become a real war. China is not Russia by any means.

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