US collusion with the Chinese government is bipartisan, GW Bush and GHW Bush did it at least as much as Clinton. Poppy Bush was even the first diplomat sent (by Nixon) to represent the US government in Beijing. Crooks crooks crooks.

HMS approved?

Drake 1, I’m sure China would like that very much. But a few problems China has take out a satellite once, one of it’s own that had homing devices that brought the intercepter to it, the US won’t be so accommodating I’m almost sure. China is still developmentally a very long way from fielding an SM3 Block 6 AD System that the USN now has operational in the Pacific.

Meanwhile the US is not resting on it’s laurels, new generations of Ages II are coming on line, SSN AD systems, CSD communications systems are becoming a reality, UUV’s that can be controlled by a submarine underwater are becoming a reality and this is just the stuff in open source that we and China know about.

Chinese Naval power is mostly an illusion Drake 1. Their ISR is limited to communicating with satellites only over their own territory, beyond the horizon they are blind, the Chinese have no communication relays beyond their borders, no AWACS, they crashed there only AWACS will all the engineers on board. This would make any early warning on an approaching naval Battle Group at best problematic.

As I’m sure you are aware Drake 1, China has recently purchased two old Soviet era “communication ships” from Russia to deal with this problem, but I’m sure if they ever become operational they would be targets 1A and 1B in the first minutes of a shooting war with the US, Japan, South Korea or India.

It is very unlikely that China could even defend it 1st. Island defense line, let alone the 2nd. Island line. A Blue water PLAN is not likely in this century.

Stephen, you are correct about the engineering students but there is a flaw in the program. When these students complete their educations and internships in foreign companies, something happens they don’t want to come back to China. It appears that the wages and life in the west is more to their liking. Most of those that do go back to China got to work for foreign companies doing business in China at far higher wages the Chinese enterprises can pay.

In 2008 the PLA started a ROTC type program to lure students into a paid education in a foreign country for service in the PLA, they are hoping this will build a future cadre of officers for the technological military they envision. The catch is they must join and be members in good standing of the CCP. It’s way to early to tell if the program is working or not.

Roland, no China is not good at copying things (reverse engineering) they still buy heavily from foreign countries, diesel motors from Germany, electronics from France and Israel, military hardware like ships, submarines and aircraft from Russia.

A little known bit of information when the Soviet Union collapsed and shut down most of Russia’s defense industry, a lot of the skilled workers and (lower and Mid level) management became foreign contract workers in China and twenty years later they still are the backbone of a lot of Chinese military industry.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

We should stabilize our network and match their capabilities and others nations that are anti americans. And keep it confidential and hackers proof.