Comments on: Now I Have What I Need: McChrystal http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/ Online Defense and Acquisition Journal Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:15:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: stephenhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17295 stephen Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:49:53 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17295 @old commander A'stan is a landlocked nation. Tha Paki's and Iranians aren't having that business w/o a payoff. @old commander
A’stan is a landlocked nation. Tha Paki’s and Iranians aren’t having that business w/o a payoff.

]]> By: World Travelerhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17294 World Traveler Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:35:32 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17294 So would you say if we pull out and give more assistance to Pakistan that it would be a better conclusion? I was in support of victory in Afghanistan but after speaking with numerous mid level and/or field grade officers in Afghan and those who have been (most repeatedly) it seems they are all a little unsure of how successful the US can ever be in Afghanistan and with that being said I must concede that perhaps winning is not possible given the history of the region and the level of commitment from back home. However, I do believe for the sake of Pakistan and their nukes..let's face it that's all we really care about..we will have to make sure the Taliban or Al Q is not able to destroy the Pakistan govt. What are your thoughts Mr. Russ? Curiously Unsure So would you say if we pull out and give more assistance to Pakistan that it would be a better conclusion? I was in support of victory in Afghanistan but after speaking with numerous mid level and/or field grade officers in Afghan and those who have been (most repeatedly) it seems they are all a little unsure of how successful the US can ever be in Afghanistan and with that being said I must concede that perhaps winning is not possible given the history of the region and the level of commitment from back home. However, I do believe for the sake of Pakistan and their nukes..let’s face it that’s all we really care about..we will have to make sure the Taliban or Al Q is not able to destroy the Pakistan govt. What are your thoughts Mr. Russ?

Curiously Unsure

]]> By: World Travelerhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17293 World Traveler Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:22:37 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17293 Yeah funny that after 8 years we have NOW uncovered the secret to success in Afghanistan and it can be accomplished in only 18 months?..what a wonderful world of make believe we are said to be living in today. Perhaps for 8 years our military leaders and advisors were baffled by what to do and now with a new leader they have suddenly gained clarity or is it clairvoyance and it's all so simple now. At any rate, I hope this doesn't turn into a terrible meat grinder for the guys and girls ordered back to Afghanistan but I fear it will be little else. Hoping I'm wrong Yeah funny that after 8 years we have NOW uncovered the secret to success in Afghanistan and it can be accomplished in only 18 months?..what a wonderful world of make believe we are said to be living in today. Perhaps for 8 years our military leaders and advisors were baffled by what to do and now with a new leader they have suddenly gained clarity or is it clairvoyance and it’s all so simple now. At any rate, I hope this doesn’t turn into a terrible meat grinder for the guys and girls ordered back to Afghanistan but I fear it will be little else.

Hoping I’m wrong

]]> By: Daniel Russhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17241 Daniel Russ Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:52:57 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17241 BereavedMil, Wow. See your Doctor. Respectfully, Daniel Russ Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com BereavedMil,

Wow. See your Doctor.

Respectfully,

Daniel Russ
Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com

]]> By: old commanderhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17233 old commander Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:12:35 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17233 as a korean& vietnam vet, I say UNTIE THEIR HANDS! GIVE THEM RESOURCES; THE HEALTH PROGRAMS CAN BE PHASED IN SLOWLY AND MORE ECONOMICALLY! TRADE THE RUSSIANS PICKUPS FOR CARGO PLANE LEASES! BUILD SEVERAL INDIAN OCEAN TO AFGHANISTAN 8 LANE HIGHWAYS! WE BUILT THE THE BURMA ROAD IN ONE YEAR!!! THEN AFGHANISTAN CAN TRADE AG PRODUCTS WITH THE WORLD!!! as a korean& vietnam vet, I say
UNTIE THEIR HANDS!
GIVE THEM RESOURCES;
THE HEALTH PROGRAMS CAN BE PHASED IN SLOWLY AND MORE ECONOMICALLY!
TRADE THE RUSSIANS PICKUPS FOR CARGO PLANE LEASES!
BUILD SEVERAL INDIAN OCEAN TO AFGHANISTAN 8 LANE HIGHWAYS! WE BUILT THE THE BURMA ROAD IN ONE YEAR!!!
THEN AFGHANISTAN CAN TRADE AG PRODUCTS WITH THE WORLD!!!

]]> By: BereavedMilhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17226 BereavedMil Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:16:28 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17226 A typo or two isn't going to change a remark or two on current events. As for the British and the Afghan wars, I do recall Churchill being in Iraq in World War One. One of his military blunders it is referred to by quite a few people. He was blamed for the segregationist policy Shiite-Sunni-Kurd. A typo or two isn’t going to change a remark or two on current events. As for the British and the Afghan wars, I do recall Churchill being in Iraq in World War One. One of his military blunders it is referred to by quite a few people. He was blamed for the segregationist policy Shiite-Sunni-Kurd.

]]> By: BereavedMilhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17225 BereavedMil Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:51:11 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17225 Ah, spelling, a frivolous point in making a remark toward current strategy. Ah, spelling, a frivolous point in making a remark toward current strategy.

]]> By: BereavedMilhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17224 BereavedMil Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:48:54 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17224 And I am having my postings removed, if you must ask. And I am having my postings removed, if you must ask.

]]> By: BereavedMilhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17223 BereavedMil Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:47:44 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17223 No, I'm not referring to anyone in particular as "Mr. Goring" but a nickname for head of the Taliban. And I did say in previous postings that Mr. Goring was head of the Luftwaffe ;) Apparently, no history book is needed to BUMP. No, I’m not referring to anyone in particular as “Mr. Goring” but a nickname for head of the Taliban. And I did say in previous postings that Mr. Goring was head of the Luftwaffe ;) Apparently, no history book is needed to BUMP.

]]> By: Daniel Russhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17202 Daniel Russ Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:08:20 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17202 I'm not sure if you are referring to me as "Mr. Goring". Unless you mean Hermann Goering the head of the German Air Force? Oy. Pick up a history book or use spell-check. But Britain did not win anything in the Afghan Wars but a few battles. At the end of the day, Britain lost all of their holdings there and were forced out by a bad British economy and a decision by the British government that Afghanistan was too costly and must be abandoned. So what exactly did the British win? That said, this is what The President said the other night. I don't agree at all with the escalation. But the rest of the paragraph is dead on. "Finally, there are those who oppose identifying a timeframe for our transition to Afghan responsibility. Indeed, some call for a more dramatic and open-ended escalation of our war effort – one that would commit us to a nation building project of up to a decade. I reject this course because it sets goals that are beyond what we can achieve at a reasonable cost, and what we need to achieve to secure our interests. Furthermore, the absence of a timeframe for transition would deny us any sense of urgency in working with the Afghan government. It must be clear that Afghans will have to take responsibility for their security, and that America has no interest in fighting an endless war in Afghanistan." Respectfully, Daniel Russ Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com I’m not sure if you are referring to me as “Mr. Goring”. Unless you mean Hermann Goering the head of the German Air Force? Oy. Pick up a history book or use spell-check.

But Britain did not win anything in the Afghan Wars but a few battles. At the end of the day, Britain lost all of their holdings there and were forced out by a bad British economy and a decision by the British government that Afghanistan was too costly and must be abandoned. So what exactly did the British win?

That said, this is what The President said the other night. I don’t agree at all with the escalation. But the rest of the paragraph is dead on.

“Finally, there are those who oppose identifying a timeframe for our transition to Afghan responsibility. Indeed, some call for a more dramatic and open-ended escalation of our war effort – one that would commit us to a nation building project of up to a decade. I reject this course because it sets goals that are beyond what we can achieve at a reasonable cost, and what we need to achieve to secure our interests. Furthermore, the absence of a timeframe for transition would deny us any sense of urgency in working with the Afghan government. It must be clear that Afghans will have to take responsibility for their security, and that America has no interest in fighting an endless war in Afghanistan.”

Respectfully,

Daniel Russ
Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com

]]> By: BereavedMilhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17201 BereavedMil Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:04:25 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17201 Imagine if you lost the battle and won the whole war.....sounds to me like asymmetrical warfare does not have an advantage point if it's counter strike is with small groups of troops attacking like guerrilla warriors, but strategically placed. Military air strikes are simple with air support. ;P Imagine if you lost the battle and won the whole war.….sounds to me like asymmetrical warfare does not have an advantage point if it’s counter strike is with small groups of troops attacking like guerrilla warriors, but strategically placed. Military air strikes are simple with air support. ;P

]]> By: BereavedMilhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17199 BereavedMil Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:48:30 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17199 Winston Churchill won with little Air support....what did you think about that, Mr. Goring? Good luck losing the War ;) Winston Churchill won with little Air support.…what did you think about that, Mr. Goring? Good luck losing the War ;)

]]> By: Daniel Russhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17198 Daniel Russ Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:38:23 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17198 There is no total victory in Afghanistan. Period. None. None whatsoever. You could put 10 million troops in Afghanistan and nothing would change there. I agree with the advice of so many of our legislators and ex military: pull out. Respectfully, Daniel Russ Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com There is no total victory in Afghanistan. Period. None. None whatsoever. You could put 10 million troops in Afghanistan and nothing would change there.

I agree with the advice of so many of our legislators and ex military: pull out.

Respectfully,

Daniel Russ
Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com

]]> By: BereavedMilhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17187 BereavedMil Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:02:52 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17187 Air war and designated military targets, targets were not hit. Went to war on the intelligence we had...??? Apparently, the Air Command is receiving faulty military intelligence or none at all is what the prior reports done via the "news." Air war and designated military targets, targets were not hit. Went to war on the intelligence we had…??? Apparently, the Air Command is receiving faulty military intelligence or none at all is what the prior reports done via the “news.”

]]> By: BereavedMilhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17184 BereavedMil Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:27:21 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17184 Conscription? How about desertion? Conscription? How about desertion?

]]> By: Jamie Macalusohttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17183 Jamie Macaluso Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:22:21 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17183 Yes It is in the Lord's hands ..at the discretion of our brave officers of the US Armed Forces! Godspeed! Yes It is in the Lord’s hands ..at the discretion of our brave officers of the US Armed Forces! Godspeed!

]]> By: BereavedMilhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17182 BereavedMil Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:17:44 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17182 The strategy is to mess up the war, let the region collapse, blame Obama for it failing, put their guy in the war, let that fail, so a new guy from the other party comes in. Yes, I do recall Vietnam, and I do recall how many presidents it was under. From Eisenhower to the last guys coming back under GERALD FORD. Speaking of endless political fighting, North Korea is STILL communist since the 1940's. Wow, such progress. Look how long it took for Cuba to get a new leader, they had to do it themselves and Castro had to resign. The strategy is to mess up the war, let the region collapse, blame Obama for it failing, put their guy in the war, let that fail, so a new guy from the other party comes in. Yes, I do recall Vietnam, and I do recall how many presidents it was under. From Eisenhower to the last guys coming back under GERALD FORD. Speaking of endless political fighting, North Korea is STILL communist since the 1940’s. Wow, such progress. Look how long it took for Cuba to get a new leader, they had to do it themselves and Castro had to resign.

]]> By: Drake1http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17181 Drake1 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:12:31 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17181 BereavedMil, you should really think about condensing some of those posts. BereavedMil, you should really think about condensing some of those posts.

]]> By: BereavedMilhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17179 BereavedMil Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:38:39 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17179 Are you asking if it's the same situation given the regional fighting since they seem to cross the borders, making more native fighters, so we have to send more troops? Are you asking if it’s the same situation given the regional fighting since they seem to cross the borders, making more native fighters, so we have to send more troops?

]]> By: BereavedMilhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/12/02/now-i-have-the-troops-i-need-mcchrystal/#comment-17178 BereavedMil Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:37:09 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=11723#comment-17178 What does conscription have to do with today's war? If you volunteer, you volunteer, being given a draft choice is only necessary if things don't go as planned, like in Vietnam. Eisenhower, then Kennedy, then a gradual escalation when South East Asia had a "democracy" spill over in the region. If you're thinking like how they spill over from Pakistan into Afghanistan into Iraq. Pretty much a regional war. Since they cross the borders and they're not as easy to cross unless you're a native from the region. What does conscription have to do with today’s war? If you volunteer, you volunteer, being given a draft choice is only necessary if things don’t go as planned, like in Vietnam. Eisenhower, then Kennedy, then a gradual escalation when South East Asia had a “democracy” spill over in the region. If you’re thinking like how they spill over from Pakistan into Afghanistan into Iraq. Pretty much a regional war. Since they cross the borders and they’re not as easy to cross unless you’re a native from the region.

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