Afghanistan Pullout VERY Flexible

Afghanistan Pullout VERY Flexible

Those who worry that President Obama’s Afghan withdrawal date sets a dangerous benchmark may be reassured by predictions that the US is likely to have 90,000 troops still in country at the end of 2011 and around 70,000 by the end of 2012.

Those predictions are courtesy of Michael O’Hanlon, one of the best analysts of military operations around. O’Hanlon, who works for the Brookings Institution, was speaking at a Friday breakfast forum put together by the Institute for the Study of War, a fairly new Washington thinktank that fought hard for an Afghan surge.

O’Hanlon and fellow defense analyst Ashley Tellis, from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said Obama’s declaration of intent to begin pulling out troops within 18 months created a useful and dynamic tension that could help allies and Afghanistan understand that the United States is serious about crafting a solution to the Taliban insurgency.


But Tellis, who served on the National Security Council during the last Bush administration, was less sanguine than O’Hanlon about the prospects for successful juggling of the pressure to achieve results and to remain committed to an effective counterinsurgency, saying it is “very very difficult to pull off successfully.” He was also skeptical of the Obama administration’s ability to “declare victory” after 18 months no matter what resources we pour into Afghanistan.

In terms of the tools being used by Gen. Stanley McChrystal, commander of allied forces in Afghanistan, O’Hanlon said that about “half of the mission of the [U.S.] combat troops” deployed to theater is what he called “apprenticeship” with Afghan combat forces. Pointing to our experience in Iraq, he said that such close work with Afghan commanders and their troops would help the US find and encourage the best Afghan leadership material. He also stressed that the US must “find a new way to train Afghans.” Sending them to six to eight weeks of school just doesn’t hack it. They need extensive on the ground experience –with bullets flying — to build a quality force.

O’Hanlon, who visited Afghanistan last month, also said that the nascent “Community Defense Initiative” — McChrystal’s attempt to encourage an Afghan version of the Anbar awakening — is “accelerating dramatically at this point.” He said the US must strive to avoid creating tribal militias with the program. Instead, allied commanders must ensure they approach elders of “several different tribes” to gather in a shura or council and pool fighters to create community police groups.

Some Afghans have expressed concern about the CDI, including Nader Nadery, a member of the 10-member Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission. Nadery warned earlier this week that the initiative “is indeed a matter of concern for us who work to promote the rule of law and protect human rights.”

O’Hanlon, clearly aware of these concerns, said financial support should not go directly to the men who join these groups. Instead, the money should go to the community. And there must be “pretty strict rules” to ensure the groups don’t create more turmoil than they solve, O’Hanlon said. The groups should not be allowed to carry weapons beyond the area they patrol. They must agree to prevent the Taliban from entering their zone of operation. And they must not use their new position of power to intimidate fellow citizens.

To put all this in a bit of context, the Marines announced this morning that they have launched a major offensive with Afghan forces against the Taliban, the first since President Obama ordered his new strategy be implemented.

The Associated Press reporter that, “Hundreds of troops from the 3rd Battalion, 4th Marines and the Marine reconnaissance unit Task Force Raider were dropped by helicopter and MV-22 Osprey aircraft behind Taliban lines in the northern end of the Now Zad Valley of Helmand province, scene of heavy fighting last summer, according to Marine spokesman Maj. William Pelletier.

“A second, larger force pushed northward from the Marines’ Forward Operating Base in Now Zad, Pelletier said. Combat engineers were forcing a corridor through Taliban minefields with armored steamrollers and explosives, Pelletier said.

“In all, about 1,000 Marines as well as Afghan troops were taking part in the operation, known as “Cobra’s Anger,” he said.”

Note in particular the use of Ospreys. It will be interesting to hear whether these went into hot landing zones or flew into fairly quiet LZs.

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“Those predictions are courtesy of Michael O’Hanlon, one of the best analysts of military operations around.”

Really? You really want to state that in such a qualitative manner? Maybe you should go back and review his statements between 2001 and today and reflect upon them some more.

Michael O’Hanlon, Foreign Affairs, Mar/Apr 02: “Operation Enduring Freedom has been, for the most part, a masterpiece of military creativity and finesse.”

Yes… what a fantastic military analyst to have made such a statement. And I could find many, many more idiotic statements that he’s made. And it’s not that he’s made so many bad judgements, its the amazing way that the media keeps calling on him for bullet quotes on Middle East military matters.

Michael O Hanlon went to Iraq and a friend of mine planned his “escort” through combat zones, and a US military PR circuit. Michael O Hanlon got the exact same scripted tour that every other W loving hack got. The same speeches, the same “this is off the record” talks the same “this is really what’s happening” talks and believed every jot and tittle of it.

And he came back and basically regurgitated the message he was fed without any thinking. Oh…yeah…one more thing…he reported that the situation was under control right before the civil war we started really flared up.

Honestly, that guy is exactly what’s wrong with US “journalism”. Look up hack and there is Michael O Hanlon’s picture. This guy who loves war should sign up and fight.

I swear to God you guys have got to stop quoting from “think tanks” and these same military PR junkies who think because they rode in a Pave Hawk wearing a helmet that they now know the deep insides of foreign policy.

One of the best military analysts? Holy Crap. That guy couldn’t find Afghanistan on a map with two hands and a flashlight.

Respectfully,

Daniel Russ
Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup​.com

Then what sources do you suggest? Our horribly biased media outlets with their sloppy coverage, lack of details, and poor analysis? At least these think tanks are willing to cover the place rather than what some celebrity is wearing.

@ William C.,

I suggest honest independent sources comprised of actual journalists and scholars, not biased institutions that put millions of anonymously sourced dollars into a specific point of view despite the facts to the contrary, or rewriting the historical facts to bolster the points of view of their backers.

Since when does a “think tank” cover anything but their own agendas?

Respectfully,

Daniel Russ
Civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup​.com

Correct me if I’m wrong, but journalists, scholars, and scientists currently do this with or w/o ties to think tanks, or anonymously sourced dollars.

China is mining cooper in Afghanistan and we are guarding them. Why don’t we let them fight the war, I would say that they would not put up with what we do.

“The views expressed in this blog comment are those of the author and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, Department of Defense, or the U.S. Government“
As a veteran of both Iraq and Afghanistan, and soon to be deploying again to Afghanistan in six months, I would like to offer my thoughts on this blog article.
With respect to the Afghanistan pullout timeline being VERY flexible, this is a must if this strategy is going to succeed. Saying now that the surge troops will be removed after 18 months is unrealistic and potentially dangerous. However, I can see the possible benefits, IF and ONLY IF this commentary is to be used to persuade our allies to commit to defeating the Taliban resurgence. But, the heated debate surrounding any type of military pullout timeline is simply too politically charged to possibly achieve this goal. Everyone must understand that this surge completion is event and not time driven. We must also be careful in not using the same equation that worked in Iraq and apply it to Afghanistan. The tribal networks interact differently in Afghanistan than they do in Iraq. Simply sending over more troops is not the solution. As stated in his speech at West Point, President Obama emphasized the three lines of operation needed to turn the tide: a military increase to fight the Taliban and increase training to the Afghan forces; an increase in Department of State personnel to help improve the Afghan government; and strengthening our ties with Pakistan to ensure its security. It will take a combined effort between the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Department of State (DoS). This combined effort will entail the DoD focusing upon the military and informational elements of national power and the DoS leading efforts along the diplomatic and economical, as well as contributing to informational elements of national power. GEN McChrystal understands this and has created a strategy that I believe will show marked improvements in Afghanistan in the coming year.

“After 18 months, our troops will begin to come home”

That says it all really. All he has to do by the time that deadline gets here is get at least 1 soldier back home.

Im pretty sure the only reason he said that was to give the other NATO states involved the proof that they wouldnt be there forever, as some countries are starting to waver.

NATO forces need to stay in afghanistan until the job is done. The advantage is that they are not only dismantling one of the worlds largest terrorist organisations, but they are also going to be dismantling one of the worlds most profitable drug rings.

A gradual pullout once certain objectives are achieved and once afghan troops reach an adequate readiness level is really the only option.

Erase by posts if you wish.……it will still be published elsewhere ;) )

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