F136 Tests Lag Four Months

F136 Tests Lag Four Months

The second engine program for the Joint Strike Fighter, beset by technical problems and funding shortfalls, now looks to be delayed by about four months, according to a congressional aide and the General Electric/Rolls Royce team.

The basic problem, as Buzz readers know, is a lug nut that attaches the diffuser to the combustor. It is being redesigned.

“I think the delay on the F136 will be at least four months,” the congressional aide said. “It doesn’t help that, with at least a $30 million a month burn rate, OSD is not giving them the money they need. Having no appropriations bill doesn’t help, but the CR lets them spend at the burn rate needed. Also, they have been shorted about $175 million over the 2007–2009 period by Congress from what the program office said was required to execute the planned program. Last I heard it was half, $15 million, so far, for what GE needs in December (as of last week). It is not good when the program manager is having to spend the kind of time he is having to spend on managing pennies instead of focusing on engine issues.


GE spokesman Rick Kennedy added some details to the “funding shortfalls” issue, saying the $2.4 billion SDD program has not been fully funded but “has won marks with the JSF office by still delivering on budget, and delivering key milestones on schedule, such as Preliminary Design Review, Critical Design Review, and First Engine To Test.”

Kennedy, answering criticism that the GE/RR program is suffering acute problems to its test program, said they have “accumulated more than 800 test hours — 207 hours of engine core and turbofan tests in the pre-SDD phase, and since 2006, 557 hours in the formal SDD program. The SDD product-configuration engines, which began running in 2009, have 52 hours of tests. So, we are a few hundred hours behind the original SDD test plan, but testing is expected to resume in January, and during 2010, we plan to run no less than six development engines.”

The test results garnered so far meet “all of our expectations in terms of thrust, temperature margins, and fuel consumption – confirming the vital role that it will play competing in the JSF program. Performance shortfalls can require significant aeromechanical design changes, and we aren’t facing that,” Kennedy said.

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30 million a month while the program is at a standstill.….… So they have to redesign a lug nut. Anyone think it should take 4 months to design one of those?

Hey, is only being 4 months behind schedule essentially being ahead of schedule for the F-35 program that is years behind schedule? Or is this 4 months in addition to all of the other F-35 program slips? Can anyone actually tell what schedule is being referred to on this program?

Weaponhead,

A few technicalities — the F136 is not a program of record recognized by the Pentagon. Because of that, money is not formally budgeted for the program. Congress has required that the military accept this effort and has funded the program. So the schedule being discused in this story applies ONLY to the F136 and is not directly related to the JSF program.

30 million a month!! wow, I had no idea gas was that expensive! Damn.

Another contract that the Pentagon didn’t want, but was jammed down their throats by congress! The prez loves GE

and this government wants to run health care!

WHAT IS 4 MORE MONTHS WHEN THEY SPENT ALL THIS $$$$$ ‚TIME THEY GET THIS PLANE IN THE AIR THEY WILL SAY THERE IS NO MORE WARS AND ITS NOT NEEDED.…..SO THEN EVERY STATE WILL LIKE TO HAVE ONE OF THESE NEW GREAT PLANES TO PUT ON A PODIUM SO WE CAN ALL SEE THEM.…..ANOTHER WAY TO SPEND TAX PAYERS MONEY,THAT WE DO NOT HAVE.….…

Not sure what you are talking about… this prez and the last BOTH recommended killing this program. Gates has been consistent via both administrations. Certain friends of GE in Congress are keeping this pork alive…

Of course what I am referring to is the F136 program… not the F35 or F135 programs, which are beginning STOVL powered lift flight testing as we speak at PAX River…

Let’s see what the final product performs to. Yes, I’m biased, I worked for GE for 25+ yrs and they were true to therir word.

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