DoD Dodges Budget Bullet

DoD Dodges Budget Bullet

The Pentagon has “dodged the bullet” in the fiscal 2011 budget but will almost certainly face demands for cuts next year.

That was the fundamental assessment of strategy and budget experts at the respected Center for Strategy and Budgetary Assessments, a thinktank and consulting shop on which senior military leaders often rely.

“I can tell you there is no way the defense budget will be immune to budget reduction efforts,” Stan Collender, one of Washington’s most respected budget wallahs, said at CSBA’s annual budget briefing.


But the following fundamental facts stand in the way of any budget cuts for the time being. “No one is talking about reducing the size of the force,” said Todd Harrison. In his prepared remarks, Harrison noted that “over 60 percent of the base defense budget is used for operations and support (O&S) activities, such as recruiting and training for the active duty military, guard, and reserve, supporting the DoD civilian workforce, and funding the peacetime operations and maintenance of equipment.” Combine those with health care costs and a benefits package that has done nothing but grow for the last decade and there is little room to slash spending without weakening the strategic reach of the United States.

Given that, the most likely size of the defense budget “will be somewhere in between zero real growth and the 2 percent the Defense Department has requested,” Harrison told reporters Tuesday morning.

Top of the list of programs to watch in the budget, due for a Monday release, is the Joint Strike Fighter program. With the death last year of the F-22, nothing else in the defense budget comes close to JSF’s size. It comprises a significant portion of the research and development budget, Harrison noted, at a time when the military’s R and D funding has been on the decline. And that portion is likely to grow –not decline as was planned for 2011 — as a result of the slow rate of testing and high-tech problems that have afflicted the plane this year.

Another key program to watch for budget tendencies is JTRS, the software-programmable radio system the Pentagon has been working on for a decade. The department requested $900 million in the 2010 budget. And on paper, the services plan to buy 194,000 radios for $23 billion over the next decade. With understatement only a defense budget analysts could muster, Harrison said, “that’s a lot of money.… It remains to be seen whether the services are going to fund this or not.”

The Navy is likely to shift its funding to smaller and cheaper ships, such as the Littoral Combat Ship, if it really is serious about building a 300-ship Navy, Harrison said.

Missile defense is unlikely to see much new money, although there is one program to watch. “The newly announced European missile defense system, which would use sea-based missiles initially, could cost as much as $19 billion if new ships are procured for this mission or as little as $300 million if existing ships are converted,” Harrison said.

As the Defense Department comes under closer scrutiny next year as a possible source of savings, there is one group of accounts — the “compensation package we give to our troops” — that could be mined, Harrison offered. They receive 52 percent of their pay in deferred benefits. Those benefits, Harrison said, “only accrue to those who stay the full 20 years…a small percentage of the military.” For comparison, people in the private sector get about 29 percent of their pay in non-cash and deferred benefits. “That is something DoD has got to look at, and something Congress has to look at,” he said.

Of course, no one in Congress has yet shown any willingness to curtail troops’ benefits. Who on Capitol Hill might be the first to stand and deliver such savings in time of war, we wonder.

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The cuts are happening already despite what is put out to the public. Hiring freezes in the government sector, funds being transfered from one project to another, a lot of funds being moved to NATO as usual, and pork projects such as building new airport runways and facilities for the ones were were sharing with the public sector and already paying for all the upkeep and maintenance. New roads around military bases, buying up new housing projects that were built adjacent to military instalations that the new home owners never realized how noisy they would be and are now stressed out from it and sue the government. We have to buy all of our own office supplies and use our POV’s out of our own pockets because they took away all the government vehicles. Dont let them fool you, the money they clain is going to our national defence is not there period.

Why is that every time we talk about DoD cuts we allow the Pentagon to make the debate about weapons programs and troop pay, instead of focusing on the real growth in waste and abuse, and support / development contracts? We pay people to NOT deliever what they promised, and pay performance bonuses for substandard work.

We have 10X as many administrators and support contractors as we have men/women in uniform. Imagine how much money we could save the US Military by INSOURCING things that we could do for ourselves at great savings. Why don’t Privates mow their own lawns and paint their own barracks, or fix their own trucks? Those used to be great MOS’s that actually transitioned to the “real world”, and came in really handy when you need support services overseas.

Now we pay, and are dependent on EXTREMELY expensive support contractors and administrators who poach our ranks of talent while demanding enormous benefit packages just to get out of bed.

I fully support our military but to be honest I wish the pain had started now. The longer these cuts are delayed the bigger they’ll be when they actually do come. Pay now or pay later…either way the bill will come due.

Because the watchers KNOW dog-n-pony. When it comes time for competancy and not “Well Senator/Congressman, the hip bone is connected to a full-spectrum, inter-agency C4 architecture that NEEDS the synergy of the wizz-bang op-rod twinkee.” They have no idea that it all makes no military or fiscal sense.

Colin,
I wouldn’t give the Pentagon a pass quite yet. There will be a lot of internal churn and the Congress will get its chance. They usually impose a lot of “undistributed reductions” for various trumped up purposes to pay for all their pet rocks. But more importantly, I suspect that whatever comes out of the coming Pentagon budget and QDR will not reflect any major resourcing or staffing shift towards the real problems of defending the national better. I do agree that the Pentagon’s own pork making machine — well hidden in one of those super secret basements that don’t exist — needs to turned off. There’s a lot of money to be saved without cutting muscle, if only they have the will to do it. Based on experience, they’ll need some outside help.

“Why don’t Privates mow their own lawns and paint their own barracks, or fix their own trucks?”

Who the hell joins the Army to MOW THE LAWN?

It’s like these people who think that the solution to acquisition reform is to have blue-suiters do everything. Seriously–when someone imagines joining the USAF, are they thinking about flying an F-15 at Mach 2 and blowing the crap out of everything, or are they thinking about being the Deputy Assistant Reviewer for the Payload Structure Sub-Segment of the Fleet Ballistic Missile Third Interim Service Life-Extension Upgrade Initial Alternatives Analysis?

People join the military because they want to be warfighters. Why waste that?

Cuts? We don’t need no stinking cuts.

In all seriousness we don’t need more military budget cuts. There is much that needs to be procured and developed, and several stupid decisions (F-22 cut) have to be taken into account,

Good Afternoon Folks,

I would say that the recent Supreme Court ruling on campaign funding will make any meaningful defense cuts a dead issue.

The money will flow from winger tanks and contractors at a rate that will be amazing. The Supreme Court just legalized mass corruption. What a bunch of peculiar institutions. The hip bone is connected to the wallet.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

DoD already make a good deal of cuts this year. They weren’t just token gestures, but putting off long-term goals and abandoning luxuries. Cutting procurement programs won’t stop equipment from aging, and we’ll need these capabilities down the line–the only question is when we want to pay for them.

Nobody is talking about reducing force size, but that’s probably what we’ll have to do–O&S is expensive and a larger force means more expensive procurement. No good solutions, but to be honest DoD should have been in this mindset regardless of economic conditions.

it may be immune if the Republicans pick up one house of Congress. Scott Brown is like blood in the water. bye bye barry.…..

AS to Byron’s lame interpretation of the Constitution, let me help: Corporations are collections of individuals which are protected by the 1st Amend.

your lame complaint is not with the Supreme Court or its ruling in Citizens United, but with the First Amendment itself, which prohibits their efforts to empower government to micromanage political debate. The Founders saw the folly of that approach and gave us a First Amendment that rejected it in clear terms: “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech.” Despite the reformers’ complaints, the ruling in Citizens United is faithful to the First Amendment, and that, ultimately, is the only test that matters.

It will be interesting to see if DoD is willing to be both fiscally courageous and responsible in forestalling, for just a little bit longer, the impacts of the inevitable defense budget cuts; “smart shop” a substantial amount of savings (i.e., more than $400 million) in ill-spent funding that could otherwise be reprogrammed for future critical modernization programs (e.g., JLTV, EFV, GCV) that really support the warfighter’s needs; and ensure that the right, not politically correct, message is sent to all potentially “profit margin-motivated” contractors by paying the reasonable and fair amount of $3B for the recently competed FMTV production contract … or cave to the political, corporate, and personal haranguing, cajoling, and irresponsible aspersions that continue to erode our defense capabilities and fatten the pockets of the shareholders of the few remaining defense manufacturers, and spend the extra half billion.

just give barry a little more time…he has to find the money somewhere to pay for his socialist agenda..and like clinton he will get it from the military.

The DoD may have indeed dodged a bullet. The question is have we bought the ‘correct’ bullets? Multi-sensor combat aircraft should not be dismissed. What if they don’t fly where they’re supposed to?

Point 1: So what, we outsource everything but the infantry? Think through this logic, this is the stupidity that destroyed intelligence. “The private sector can handle this…” and BLAM! We emptied the best minds overnight, lost control of the information, and now pay 10x what it used to cost for 1/3 of the output.
Point 2: Once the vehicles and equipment are handled by “the professionals” the services increasingly become ignorant to how / if their equipment works, and more importantly what is a reasonable cost. Pretty soon you’re being told that oil filters cost $150 dollars a pop because their “custom” and we experiencing program delays because the flux capacitor didn’t reach 21.1 Gigawatts at 55mph.

Point 3: Point 2 is already happening. Why design our own equipment, the contractors will handle that? Why manage that program when there is a consulting company to do that? Pretty soon no one knows what’s going on, you can only get service for 2 hours on a Tuesday, and the service support contractors cost more than the battalion they support…….

OVER UTILIZING CONTRACTORS HAS GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL. Look at this up armour Humvee and MRAP abortion, We (AMERICAN MILITARY) faced the same issue during NAM with IED’s and RPG attacks against convoys. They didnt send out a flash report for new equipment to be developed and sent incountry. The guys on the ground took control and developed the MA DUCE (not the M2B 50 cal) they added plate steel to 2 1/2 ton trucks and mounted 50 cal’s on them to counter the threat and they were fairly effective to be so crude. and they only cost a couple thousand to convert rather than millions. The half tracks of WW2 (still used by Isreal for the same reasons) is another example of what could have been done.

continued: AN ideal from some of the troops in country was why not utilize some of the M1’s set for demil, remove the turrent and fire control systems, put in a HUMVEE type turrent fo a 50 cal or MK19 and use them for convoy leads. already on hand, would be even faster after removing the gun turrents, could carry additional personnel, were already fitted with plate and reactive armour. would have been a cheap and easy fix. But instead they decided to use them for bombing proctice and put billions of dollars worth of taxpayers money into MRAPS which were not battle proven or tested for longevity or in different types of terrain. There is no longer any deployment of common sense by the decision making brass or an open ear for the grunts ideals or wants.

Good Morning dow,

I would suggest you invest more time in Constitutional law. Property rights are not commutative in the Constitution but individual.

Of course that has not stopped Conservatives from corruption the Constitution I guess starting in 1794 and the Fugitive Slave Act that a southern dominated Supreme Court ratified. Ironically the owner ship of human beings is the first right that the corporation wanted to protect.

Since the corporation is mentioned now where in the US Constitution (along with God) it appears that the Corporation has hijacked individual rights and has stolen the Constitution.

What the Supreme Court along with the eminent domain ruling of a few years ago smashes any individual property rights as set forth in the Constitution. This campaign

Good Morning dow,

I would suggest you invest more time in reading Constitutional law dow. Property rights are not commutative in the Constitution, but individual.

Of course that has not stopped Conservatives from corrupting the Constitution. I guess starting in 1794 and the Fugitive Slave Act that a southern dominated Supreme Court ratified. Ironically the owner ship of human beings is the first right that the corporation wanted to protect.

Since the corporation is mentioned now where in the US Constitution (along with God) it appears that the Corporation has hijacked individual rights and has stolen the Constitution.

What the Supreme Court along with the eminent domain ruling of a few years ago smashes any individual property rights as set forth in the Constitution, this campaign finance is nothing more then the legalization of bribery.

In short of you or I dow approached a member of Congress with a wad of money and request some special law or his/her support on a vote we would be committing an illegal act, attempted bribing of a member of Congress. If Boeing comes up to that same member and says we (Boeing Corp.) would like to donate to your campaign fund ( which when that member leaves office they can take their campaign funds with them) or and by the way _________. It’s all legal.

Can someone explain why?

Under this corrupted and bought off court the corporation has the legal right, through a bought off local/state government to take your real property, and now has the right to bribe members of Congress to support useless spending that serves nothing more then corporate profits, in short they are now in your wallet.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

Harry those serving deserve what they are getting due to the nature of their work.

However the way the DoD budget is laid out and organized needs to be changed. Personnel costs should be separated. It is clear to anybody who has looked at the numbers that the budget is personnel driven, the amount given to research, development, and procurement is not nearly as large as the anti-military crowd wants you to believe. By separating this two areas of the budget, perhaps it will be easier for the US Military to get the new equipment and systems it needs for the future.

Modernization and results should come first. Not the cost in money that senators would rather use for their bribes and personal deals.

They should freeze military pay for a few years to help. GIs already make 2–3 times more than civilians. Want proof, read the blog at G2mil.

It wouldn’t be a Byron Skinner post without an attack on us “EVIL!!!!” conservatives who are blamed for everything bad in his universe. First the ranting about generic “EVIL!!!” corporations followed by an attack on God? Will he whine about WalMart and “In God we Trust” on the dollar next?

You act as if bribery and corruption didn’t occur in congress for the last century. Yet I suppose it is okay when ACLU lawyers and other leftist groups are the benefactors.

Boy, you lot have got some real thick heads that have floated to the top of the tank!

Basic common sense shows that fat, dumpy pigeon known as the F-35 JSF is going to cost far more than the F-22 Raptor to both develop and to buy, unit cost wise.

Yet, you are allowing them brainiacs in the OSD to shut down the making of something that works on the promise of something that likely won’t, for which you will pay through the nose.

Well might you say, “God save America”, ’cause someone is going to have to!

DoD does need trimming, but DoD is one of the few things that is specifically mentioned as a justifyable expense in the U.S. Constitution (the paper document — not the wooden boat with sails). The trimming of federal budgets should start at the top — where the money gets authorized. Cut funding to congress and everything will get right real fast.

The Democrat party is the oldest of the 2 party’s. And also the one that refuses to take the blame for anything that has gone wrong with this country. Their mantra is “blame it on the Republicans”. You Liberals claim to be intellectuals. It seems the more learnin’ you get the more common sense you loose.

After spending 22 years on active duty and the last 5 as an Army Civilian at the largest weapons manufacturing facility, I can honestly say I could balance the budget in 2 years just cutting blatant outright theft, waste fraud, embezzlement and abuse. It is mind blowing to see just how much tax payer money is wasted paying relatives of high ranking civilian employees who have no experience, no skills and no knowledge of the high paying jobs they are given. Nepotism is rampant, contract kickbacks fraud and theft is way out of control. Unfortunately if you try to do the right thing and help clean it up, you are considered a problem and nuisance. You can’t tell me high ranking officials and politicians don’t see this! Of course to curb it, they would have to eliminate nepotism and inheritance of good paying jobs which I don’t see happening!

We’ve seen this train wreck coming. I’m glad the mugwumps at CBSA think that the revolution has been postponed. This just shows how out of contract with reality those guys are. RDT&E is hosed. Clinton whittled it down, and Rumsfeld had to build his ambitious ventures on the bones of red-blooded programs that were fairly mature. The Gates comes in and does the same kind of thing. Back in the seventies and eighties you could talk intelligibly about squeezing efficiencies out of the system. That made sense then. This is now — you are not cutting out fat any more, you are cutting out muscle and bone. Its the old story of the tortoise and the hare. We be the hare, and eventually our international competitors will catch up.

I understand the need to provide BMD for Europe. But why are we not having the Europeans pay the expenses for it? We could provide the technology and they could pay the expenses for protecting their own countries. It seems to me that we are giving them a free ride for defense while they are pouring their money into social programs.

What percentage of deferred benefits –or better yet–real-time benefits do government officials recieve and never put their life on the line for this country. They work part-time, draw hugh paychecks, and have the best medical coverage of all Americans. Have you heard anything about them taking furlough days WITHOUT PAY or getting their benefits cut? NO you have not and you will not until the working Americans stand up and say Capital Hill needs to sacafice not just the military and everyday citizens. My husband is retired military and anyone who thinks after spending 26 years in the military you can retire and live the “high life” need to do some research. You will be lucky if you can pay your rent, utilities and buy groceries on that.

Mustang, you deserve an applause. The DoD is going to have the largest Defense Budget ever, passing $700 Billion, bigger then Reagan during the Cold War. The problem is, the damn Europeans expect the Americans to “take care of them”. So, at the same time, their Defense Budget’s stay flat, or even decrease, while the US’s increase. The President should stand up and say, look if we protect your candy***, you damn well better pay for it. Being a world police man is one thing, it’s another thing to bend over to the so-called “allies”.

There are indeed many such problems in the industry but there are also many problems on the political end that have to be addressed to. And if we can stomp out all of the corruption and fraud we shouldn’t reduce funding as some automatically want to do.

What do you get when you subtract personnel costs from that $700 Billion? A much smaller number although I can’t recall what it is off the top of my head. Personnel costs should be separated in order to better show the amount we are actually spending on new equipment and research.

Servicemembers deserve their pay. They are better trained and more motivated than most civilians. In addition the nature of the work is quite dangerous. Recruitment is already a difficult buisness. If a freeze on pay was enacted recruitment would become much more expensive and ineffective.

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