New Conflict Would Strain Army

New Conflict Would Strain Army

The Army chief of staff, Gen. George Casey, said the Army, stretched by eight years of war in two distant theaters, would find it difficult to cope with another conflict such as Korea.

Casey said in remarks at the Brookings Institution today that the Army would have to “freeze” forces in Iraq should fighting break out in another theater and could manage an “80 percent solution” to such a threat. He said that would rise to about 90 percent “when Iraq draws down.”

Casey also said he is “a little disappointed” that some lessons learned in Iraq are not being speedily implemented in the Afghan theater.

“I’m a little disappointed” that some lessons learned in Iraq were not speedily applied in Afghanistan. I asked Casey after his speech what had disappointed him and he pointed to the size of the training mission for the Afghan national forces and the national police, which means we don’t have the forces “organized to grow the Afghan National force and the national police at the rate they had to grow.

Casey also said that “intelligence fusion centers are just starting migrate” to Afghanistan. Such fusion centers played critical roles in Iraq, allowing U.S. forces to get inside the decision loop of insurgents and of al Qaeda in Iraq.

Casey did not blame anyone for these issues. He said some of the slow response is due to “constraints with putting people” into theater.

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Simply withdraw 60% of the total troops that was in Iraq and Afghanistan if the crises arises.

God bless our troops.

Actually, in a recent quick study, the Pentagon’s Defense Business Board said that, based on who had been in theater and how many deployments, the Army and Marine Corps were NOT overstressed. I believe it noted that less than half of all Active Army and Marine Corps personnel had been deployed at least once. Igf that’s the case, we have plenty to deploy to Korean or any other hot spot.

Seems that a balanced home-work lifestyle is more important than winning

Or the US government is biting off more than it can chew

Charles, Oble,

I well understand the dwell time issue, especially the goal of two years between rotating deployments. But the Defense Business Board study, which goes to Gates, struck at the heart of an unstated issue and indicated that a huge portion of the current Active Duty forces had not deployed at all, so how could it stressed? A legitimate observation. I believe part of the story is the huge reliance on the National Guard. If one third of your in-theater forces are Guard, where’s the rest of the Army? Or, why are we rotating the same units so frequently?

I also well understand the stand-in or augmentation of Air Force and Navy forces where the Army didn’t have the right mix of support capabilities. I saw it first hand since I headed up the Navy (and Marine Corps) contingency operations budget cell at the Pentagon. The QDR could have taken up such support mix issues but didn’t. So it’s still a concern.

Don’t know that I agree with the good General.….if we had a minor commitment in another region (10-12K) I think he’s probably be right. It would strain Soldiers, families, and deployment schedules.…..but they could handle it.

If there was a no kidding shooting war that required a major deployment we don’t have anyone to send as everyone is IN one of the two theaters, coming back and recovering or getting ready to re-deploy. It isn’t that we couldn’t put anyone on a plane/ship to get there.…..it’s that there woud virtually no one “ready” to replace them once they got there. (not to mention the logistical nightmare)

Good to see you’re here to correct that ignoramus, Gen Casey. What does he know? Wow. They give anybody stars these days.…

John — Do you have any idea what you are saying? Let’s assume that about half of the Army/Marine force has been deployed once. I would like to see a DoD number of how many have been deployed various lengths, but when you see a lot of AF folks being deployed to fill Army slots — that tells me that the Army is in need of help. With the rotation back home to refit, and the normal need for people to go home for a short while, we could rotate people to Korea only in the more serious emergency. We don’t want to take a unit that returns from a deployment to Afghanistan and immediately send them to Korea. It is likely that many of the Army folks that have NOT gone are not easily deployable. Trainees, etc. To have a ready force, and have people ready to move out quickly and stay overseas a while — we would be better off to have deployed a quarter of them in the last three years or so.

happens all the time around here. always leaves me smdh and lmao.

At my last duty station none of my SNCO’s had deployed and only a couple of the junior Marines had deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan. I am the only one that I know of in my MOS (4421 Legal Specialist) before I got out that had two combat deployments. I deployed once on active duty and once as a reservist. From what I have been told is that if I had been attached to an SJA or LSSS, the chance of me doing a non legal deployment was zero.

From what I have seen is that admin units have the tendency to only send people when they are required to do so. One of the justifications was that if we do this higher headquarters can come down and tell us that we have to many people and this is shown by allowing one of your people do a job that is not within one’s MOS in Iraq/Afghanistan.
That all being said, these admin units (where the other half is)do a tremendous amount of work back state side in support of the war and these positions can not be filled by someone who is not trained to do the job.

There are many unemployed. If the crises arises like N. Korea and China crises with US, just employ those who are looking for a job. There are millions out of job around the country, now is the time to recruit.

how about the strain placed on the Military by Barry’s Haiti Bailout boondoggle???

Haiti can be considered a real-time training mission.

If another conflict will happen , I think it will be different and deadly. I think its time to built a nuclear underground housing forthe people and military. Because at that time I believe it will be a diffirent kind of war.

we need more troops.. reopen the closed bases and fill them up.. that would creat a supply and demand process thus workers . jobs„ homes to live in. crap closing bases is the leading contributer to no jobs .. search it out..
we need more troops period, about 1/2 million well trained hardened troops…
the re-opening of closed bases would mean more jobs for the supply and demand of personal.
it wouldnt be a well liked idea, but we need to get an army including all branches of service to make America able to handle any uprising…

Whatever happens in the future, we should put our faith in the lord Jesus Christ. “We should not worry. “
Mathew 6:25 Therefore I say to you do not worryabout your life,what you will eat or what you will drink ;nor about your body, what you will put on .Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing.

The problem is in how to get the troops there and not in the number of GI’s. Dessert Storm, Iraq, Afghanistan we had to rely on commercial air craft a lot. We need more military airlift capability and transport ships to get our guys to ground in the battle zones, That is the real problem. Once in country they need support equipment and transportation which is in need of improvement. But mostly the government needs to realize we are fighters — not occupiers — politicians — or humanitarian aid workers. Send us in to kick but and let us come home.

Canadian Chris here.Why is the American flag on Gen. George Casey’s arm backwards . Isn’t the stars in the upper right instead of the left?.

The flag is backwards, because someone decided that the flag should always be going forward, and when p,aced on a person’s shoulder that means the stars should be in the top right corner. Yes, I know. It’s a typical case of Americans placing form ahead of function, but what do you expect? This is the people that brought you the pet rock and convinced ourselves that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction even though the experts we sent to investigate said they did not. We give Paris Hilton more air-time than JD Salinger. Surprised? I should think not.

Why is it still being said that there were NO WMDs in Iraq? This is simply not true. I think the public should quit believing evrything the media says.

A modern conflict like Korea? It’s a no-brainer that we don’t have the numbers we did in the 1950’s but we shouldn’t need as many. North Korea’s mil is less advanced than Saddam’s was in the first Gulf War and look what our “smart bombs” and so forth accomplished. I think it would be a slaughter of North Korean troops, plus we’d have weeks of advance notice through our surveillance capabilities. Not that I’m a fan of Don Rumsfeld’s doctrine of replacing numbers with high tech. But at least we have the high tech. No nation, including ours, should face the scenario of THREE simultaneous wars. Certainly no other nation could come close to carrying it off. We should not overestimate our ability to do more than our economic strength will allow — it’s no shame to be the US of today rather than the US of 1945, it just is what it is.

A recent recruiting message stated that the Army still had roughly 37,000 personnel that had not deployed once to either OIF or OEF! Combine that with a recall of recent retirees, former Active and Reserve veterans with reserve commitment plus all the peacekeeping and UN activities across the globe and I dare say we could field another 5–6 full BCT’s!

Candian Chris We are rushing into battle the flag flows with the rush.

So you have an issue with President Bush, who has said that there were no WMDs in Iraq, then?

Of course there were no WMDs in Iraq! Saddam sent them to Syria! Ever notice how the Syrians, who can’t buy a pot to piss in, suddenly ended up with a fully functional nuclear program, and the Israelis had to bomb it into rubble!

If you believe the Syrians got that wholly from the Koreans, nuclear manufacturing tools and machines, and all, I got a swamp land in Arizona I’d like to sell ya!

“winning”

lol

sand pit politics is so childish.

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