GOP Sounds The Call: Spend More, Engage Less

GOP Sounds The Call: Spend More, Engage Less

The Obama administration’s engagement policy and Defense Department budget cuts portend “an America in decline,” an approach the country must not accept, one of the top defense Republican lawmakers said today in a speech billed as a major policy address.

“A defense budget in decline portends an America in decline,” Rep. Buck McKeon, ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee says in a speech written for delivery at the conservative Heritage Foundation this morning. Pointing to the Pentagon’s decliing investment accounts, McKeon calls for change. “This is an outcome we cannot accept. America in decline is not the type of change the American people signed up for, nor is it a change we should believe in,” DoD Buzz obtained an advance copy of the speech. The speech was clearly designed to test themes for the November elections.

McKeon took some of the Obama administration’s basic tenets head on, especially targeting engagement, which Jim Jones, the president’s national security described last week as a central tenet of the administration’s national security approach. “Put bluntly, the Obama Administration’s predisposition thus far to engage with adversaries — past or present — has not made us safer. The Teddy Roosevelt mantra of speaking softly and carrying a big stick still has a place today — it should not be out of vogue,” McKeon writes. “Whether dealing with a former adversary like Russia or a present-day adversary like Iran, I’m concerned that engagement has translated into weakness. We cannot let this approach compromise our commitments to friends and allies.”


McKeon hammered away again and again at the administration’s national security policies. “A reluctant wartime President, I fear, abstains from using words like victory and winning—because he is more committed to ending the conflicts we’re in rather than winning them. This is the risk of a war strategy driven by an unchecked declinist national security policy,” McKeon said, But America is an exceptional country and must act that way, McKeon said.

“We must never give up on our belief that America is truly great…and that we have the responsibility to help make others great, too,” he says. “I take issue with a declinist vision of our country, not only because every fiber of my being believes in our nation’s greatness, but because of the impact it is having on our standing in the world. I’m increasingly concerned that the rejection of American exceptionalism reflects a fundamental view of this Administration that has permeated American national security policy. At its core, this view holds that America should never lead alone, that it must aspire to do less, and acquiesce to the will of others more. In other words, we must do less with less,” he writes.

McKeon invokes President Theodore Roosevelt’s famous dictum — “Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far” — saying “the Obama Administration’s predisposition thus far to engage with adversaries—past or present—has not made us safer.”

To fix this, the California Republican urges an increase in defense spending, tying a smaller defense budget to lost jobs. And he said the country needs “a National Defense Education and Investment Act, which would increase funding for basic defense research, and ensure we maintain our technological edge.” The country needs “to invest in American exceptionalism to stem the tide of decline.”

Otherwise, declining procurement and R and D accounts “could lead to another round of defense consolidations like that of the 90s. But where will we cut this time? Satellites? Military aircraft? Shipbuilding? The result is less diversity and an increasing reliance on foreign firms to meet our defense needs. This may be the most harmful impact of a Department of Defense in decline,” he writes.

In portions of the speech clearly meant for the faithful, McKeon slammed Obama for his handling of the Christmas Day bomber. “Instead of recognizing that terrorists targeted America long before Guantanamo Bay held enemy combatants, he attempted to re-write history to the benefit of our enemies and detriment of our people. Put bluntly, the President believes that American policy was a root cause of AQAP’s attack on the homeland,” he says. “The simple truth is that relaxing our Guantanamo policy puts Americans at risk. We can draw a bright and terrifying line between releasing those war criminals and harm to our people.”

Then, in phrases sure to be heard a great deal from the end of August, McKeon calls for: “No more mirandizing terrorists. No more trials in downtown Manhattan. No more terrorist transfers to Yemen. The American people need a new terrorist detainee policy.”

All in all, McKeon crafted a bracing speech. While some of it can be dismissed as preaching to the faithful, he offers one of the most comprehensive and cogent critiques so far of the Obama administration’s national security policies.

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Everyone else is spending to improve their education systems and industrial competitiveness vs the rise of China, but McKeon thinks that the way to be “great” is a big military.

That’s the banana republic model of greatness.

“The Obama administration’s engagement policy and Defense Department budget cuts portend “an America in decline,” an approach the country must not accept, one of the top defense Republican lawmakers said today in a speech billed as a major policy address.”

I’m all for maintaining the industrial base, but continuing defense and social spending, because we expect nothing but the best is not sustainable.

Good Morning Colin,

As usual Heritage is living in a never, never land and Loren Thompson was correct they have no conception of current realities.

I was talking the other day with a staffer for a Republican member and she/he registered unvarnished disgust with the current ideological corruption of Congress. I was to all that President Obama has to do to scrap the whole F-35 program with at least 75% Republican support is say I will cut the Capital Gains tax by 33% if you get rid of this needless spending. In short Republican ideologies are no more concerned about Defense the they are about Healthcare.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

It’s the magic pony theory of national security!

sounds like the same short sighted thinking that almost destroyed our country a very few years ago. no more bumper sticker logic

Ignoring confused mumblings from some of the commenters here McKeon made some great points.

None of us can sit back and accept this attitude of “were in decline, lets destroy our military” some embrace. We cannot afford as a nation to keep electing politicians who run to smash the “DoD piggybank” every-time they need some funding for their personal interests or dead end entitlement programs.

Theodore Roosevelt indeed said it best when he said “Speak softly and carry a big stick”. Such a policy of peace through strength should be what guides us. Those who say military funding is strangling us need only look at defense spending as a percentage of the GNP and compare it to the past.

There is much that needs to be done to modernize our armed forces, we can’t repeat the cuts of the 1990s and the procurement fails of the 2000s.

McKeon is right, but leftist Obama-scum are so reflexively anti-American they won’t listen. Progressive weasels like Obama have simply lack human decency.

Jim you sound like a nut

“McKeon is right, but leftist Obama-scum are so reflexively anti-American they won’t listen. Progressive weasels like Obama have simply lack human decency.”

I am not apart of either political team. How does one get this bad? I mean how do you allow a political team influence you so much that you become as pathetic as Jim.

The fact that Rep. McKeon is the ranking member of anything in the House worries me. His entire argument is a false dichotomy between defense spending and diplomacy. We’re spending almost $800B on defense this year, and something tells me that’s just the opening bid. Why can’t we also spend a few billion on AID programs and diplomacy?

If they would stop funding and giving grants to everyone with thier hand out (ACLU _ACORN _CAlifornia field mouse_ illegal aliens and so on) then there would be enough funding for the military. If they want to make cuts then start with programs that dont help tax payers and legal citizens.Stop funding NATO and the UN above and beyond what all the other countries pay,Make lobbying illegal and stop paying think tanks to do what is expected of them to be capable of in the first place. We are the most hated country in the world by other governments, a strong military is all that stops them from ganging up on us. They waist more than the militray is asking for.

Politicians argue and determine the affairs of state.Soldiers kill and die.Some statesmen have very high and honorable titles,Soldiers have honor and funeral details.Widows have tears,children lose parents,but in Washington D.C.it looks lke business as usual.Who is to blame?Let us all identify them downrange,pray for our country and trust in Almighty God.Defense analyst,military personnel advocate and combat veteran.

“I’m concerned that engagement has translated into weakness.“
The word used to be called “Diplomacy” and it’s was what civilized nations do.

Yep, speak softly and carry a big stick, alright.….….and be ready to whack somebody with it, if it becomes necessary!

Perhaps the weakness comes from the affirmative action mentally this president and thousands selected by him were educated. Think about it. Strong leaders made things happen, this group waited in line and hoped to be told yes. Affirmitive action is good at the boot strap level but not in national matters in my opinion.

Bottom line is so many people and politicians don’t really care. They’ll scream they care, but they care more about $$$ than anything. How many people have wave their USA this or that tshirts and banners made in China that they bought at Walmart? It’s not classified info, people just don’t care because 15% off plastic crap is more important that America’s future.
Read the ANNUAL congressional report on China.
http://​www​.uscc​.gov/​a​n​n​u​a​l​_​r​e​p​o​r​t​/​2​0​0​9​/​a​n​n​u​a​l​_​rep...

Boomer — I agree 100%. I can’t believe the mindset of some of these posts. We need a massive overhaul of our military, period. We have worn out most of our equipment in these 2 wars. Yes, we are going broke because of this stupid nanny state mentality. Other than Social Security, we should do away with entitlements altogether. That is over 65% of the federal budget. We could have tons of money to invest in our defense, which actually creates real jobs and boosts the economy. When I say this, I know that some knucklehead will say that “Reagan did this and our deficits went way up!”. No, this is NOT what caused our deficits to go up. If Reagan wanted money for defense, Congress would only give it to him if he signed off on their social programs and other pet projects. Since he did not have a line item veto, he could only sign all or none. Since he had the Soviet Union to deal with at the time, that was the number one priority to defeat them, and he did. Bottom line, it’s not defense spending that creats these large deficits, it’s all of this idiotic nanny state spending that does. It’s time we build up our industrial base and our defense to a point that nobody would dare want to cross us.

Diplomacy is but one element of national power. The fact is that our diplomacy has been tied to a leftist agenda for the last century or so. The Founders were quite clear that our inherent geopolitical position in the world allowed us the luxury of avoiding foreign wars; yet we ignored that. As well our past history of 70 or so years of feeding mouths that will not work has forced us to abandon the original intent of funding government through taxes on tariffs and trade and given us some bizarre system where people are penalized for working harder than others under the auspices of “fairness”.

McKeon is partially right. Our entire defense system needs a bottom up review. The F-35 while interesting (when it can fly) does signify some interesting technology, however it is not the best platform for the common wars (LIC) and it is not the optimal platform for big wars, especially if our diplomacy realigns with what we should be doing in the first place.

Regardless of what anyone wants, the reality is fast approaching where all of this will become moot. $60 Trillion in obligations to Social Security and Medicare in the next 20 years, Most states in the US insolvent or approaching it, a very divided nation split between some democratic socialism (which has only survived in Europe because we protected it from Soviet destruction) and Constitutional Constructionist views. This odd comment above about not building wall between Tex and Mex is illustrative of the utterly deplorable circumstances in our public education. We spend oodles of money on public education and our children know nothing. No great nation has ever survived without protecting its culture and sovereignty. Witness the current Islamization of Europe. What the Ottomans failed to do in the 14th Century, their progeny are doing today through shear numbers. So too in America if we fail to demand a solid immigration policy based upon loyalty to the ideal and Constitution.

We simply will not be able to endure as a nation unless a serious reset of the nation is done. That means a spending freeze of perhaps $1 Trillion total Fed Gov spending. A massive tax change from income to sales taxes to incentivize profit and savings from the working person up to the corporation and the elimination of many federal departments and return of those functions to the individual states. The party is over and the military is just one small part.

Lastly, the Founders knew that we should have a full time NAVY but standing armies were bad. I am a soldier and I truly believe that there is wisdom to this. I think we should have the baddest a$$ NAVY in the world for force projection and return both the Army and USAF to a reserve status; well equipt, training fully funded and a lot less expeditionary than today. I say that as a career soldier. Way too much politiking in the USAF and Army for personal gain and not enough strategic thinking.

Just some thoughts, but all of them made after long study, thought and discussion with many operators and academics.

It’s hard to believe that whole American exceptionalism thing when we rely on Chinese Communists to finance our government and way of life, send all of our manufacturing overseas,are slaves to Arab oil, and have a population that’s fat, under-educated, shallow, and proud of it to boot.

The Soviet Union recently flew its 1st stealth fightter im certain they wont stop at 187. Sooner ot later the two Biggest kids on the block will have to settle things the old fashioned way. By that i mean the US and China. as a student of history we are still repeating the mistakes of the past as the USAF network policy that entails a single point of failure which is the Modern equvalent of parking aircraft at hickam AB wingtip to wingtip for a future Digital Pearl Harbor. How many times Will we have to repeat the lessons of the past for future generations. Remember the “dogfights are a thing of the past” post WWII thinking

Perhaps we could all pay more taxes so we could pay for the Iraq and Afghan War, which the Republican Party did not pay for!
Stop building walls between Tex and Mex.
No bills passed that are not paid for with tax increases or some reduction in spending, unless they are to increase employment.
Stop the War Mongering

Je suis tres ravi de rediger cette message pour tout avoir les votres .
Avrai dire ‚je un Nigerien (Niger) qui vit en egypte (A.R.E)actiallement .
je vous ai ecrire cette note pour vous faire part de mon cas ‚comme vous ne l’etes pas sans savoire,j’ai l’amoure d’etre un military de U.S.A si vous savez qu’il y’ a une autre circonstant pour m’aider j’attend votre meuilleur reponse.

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Amen, Mountain Fox! You ought to run for Congress. The bottom line is that we cannot and will not save our country until we break up our highly ineffective and corrupt political system in which our “representatives” are pulled around by the nose by lobbying groups (represented by virtually every American industry) and criticized by politically motivated “news” organizations. Our elected representative often don’t even have a vote on big issues as they’re ordered to vote the party line. Unfortunately, we’ve become our own worst enemy… there’s simply very little independent, critical thinking in Washington. We need more bold and progressive policies (such as congressional term limits) and leaders strong enough to effect government-wide transformation. As every CEO understands, we must adapt or die. Time is quickly running out.

Mountain Fox really gets it — the Navy is designed as an inherently deployable force needed to protect sea lines of communication and international commerce. Our ground forces, including the USMC and USAF, should be restructured and consolidated as an integrated standing force that trains and fights (in times of war) as one team (wearing the same uniform) and deploys only when our national security interests are truly at risk. In fact, our routine, often indefinite deployments in foreign countries is the most compelling reason or cause that our “enemies” use as justification to attack us (e.g., 9–11). Of course, this is what united America to rebel against another super power perceived as corrupt by the affected population. Consider our continued presence in Germany, Japan, Korea, Middle East, and now Afghanistan. OMG, talk about a collective lack of exit strategies! Are these seemingly permanent military deployments really much different than what we faced before 1776 in the eyes of the people of these nations?

Training and equipping a weak nation to protect itself (Iraq, Af-Pak, South Korea, Taiwan) is one thing. Serving as its U.S.-funded military resource not only drains our defense budget but also sends the wrong and easily misunderstood message of empire-building. Do we really think North Korea would attack the South if we evacuated? Hell, we could use that as a nuclear bargaining chip backed by international guarantees if Kim Jong-il renigs on a peace deal. Moreover, the savings that could be reaped through ending our overseas deployments and consolidating our forces (to include the Navy for administrative purposes) could be used to recapitalize R&D budgets and ensure our military preeminence through the 21st century.

Resources saved from reconstituting our military could also be used to reinvigorate our diplomatic corps and to invest in worthy international development efforts. In return, I’m sure the international community would be very supportive and more than willing to assume a greater responsibility for global security by supporting cooperative armed forces agreements, signing mutually beneficial treaties, and/or enforcing sanctions as appropriate. Our friends and allies have been dependent on our quickly dissipating national treasure and human sacrifices for far too long!

Ditto Mountain Fox 8.

Hey Bardolf; Your words of wisdom are so few, and oh so true.!!! Too bad some of us can’t see where it’s going. Soon if things are allowed to continue as they are we will be so far in debt as to be bankrupt,we will not be able to say NO to a World Currency,currency and government go hand in hand, which means Jurisprudence will also. Because world with world currency we must ALL play by the same rules. Get it? World Government is coming if the American people don’t stand up and do something about it. The proof is in front of us, it’s happening in Europe as we speak, started with the EURO dollar
as a common currency, evolved into the European Union, which will probably join with the emerging Asian Unions in order to survive. The NAFTA and CAFTA were the first steps toward a North American Union,fortunately for us the fruit didn’t ripen. BUT obama and his minions are pushing the lines and the people are falling back. Wrong, not falling back…SITTING ON THEIR ASSES and watching it happen like so many ignorant sheep being led to the slaughter. Bottom line is the future holds a very real threat of a WORLD SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT in which there will be no Sovereignty, no Constitution, no Supreme Court, no Bill of Rights and no Freedom for the people of the former United States of America. God Please Help us.!
USAFE8RET

Shears to swords, then back again.…then do it all over again.…hhhmmmmmm.…isn’t that HISTORY ! Without a history we would not have a present or a future.…and around and around the world goes…nothing new under the sun, so I have been told !

Oh, look! More of the magic pony theory of national security!

Clovis man Jim is right, this country is headed for self destruction and we dont need to see Obama on TV for every little thing, we need to see him in the Oval Office, isnt about time for another trip for the family, Oh thats right they just had all those snow days off. God Bless Our Troops

Scott
San Antonio

Americans need to realize that DC isnt doing anything for the people unless you are corrupt. DC is fighting like two little kids over the last piece of candy. We need to get all these idiots out of there chairs and put some new ones in like Mass did. We also need term limits because the same trash for 40 plus years in office is ridiculous. We the people (remember that) need to continue to show our displeasure, our nation was better of when DC had sex scandals, alcohol problems, bad check writing etc. Who knows may be this group in office chooses just weed. America we need to come together. Enough said.

Scott

Both parties need to wake up. Spending needs to be brought under control. I have worked in the Defense Industry for over 30 years. There are plenty of areas for savings. We should also get out of Japan,Korea and draw down in Europe. We can drop one CVN and save one Navy Airwing. We can keep a Battle Group in Guam and Hawaii. Move our Marines closer to home.
Stop the pork spending that makes us keep bases the military no longer wants or needs. If the encumbents have been party to our fiscal problems vote them out.

RE: “Settle things in the old fashioned way”, are you advocating the use of nuclear weapons against our “enemies”? After all “Atomic weapons were used to ” settle things” between Japan and the USA. Do you have an idea of how many “declared” and ” undeclared” nuclear weapons/ warheads are presently in the hands of various nations across the globe? I think your suggestion advocates ““the beginning of the END of civilization” as we know it. May God help us all!!!

I like your thinking, why pay so many full time soldiers to do nothing but train between wars, when you can train them very well part time. When I was in the Guard we regularly beat the regular Army in combat training competitions. What floored me was some of the obvious regular Army unpreparedness that became evident, in the last three actions. Commanders were asking for more preparedness time than should have been necessary, for a full time Army.

Just before Desert Storm the Army began loading onto the Guard a lot of the worthless paperwork that they put up with full time; we had a hell of a time getting enough training in!! I shudder to think what the regular Army had to put up with. This kind of red tape should have been dumped on first call to action. I realize this is different for logistics; they really did a historical good job getting the beans, bandages, and bullets to the troops. I think a more sane model is to keep a large rapid deployment force, and a skeleton training force ready to take on a reserve call up, for the week or so that the troops need to prepare for combat. I’m serious about this. We did it all the time in the Guard. We could leave our front porch, pack up an entire division, put it on the rails, and by the time we arrived at the training area, we were working smoothly within a week. Two weeks, I submit we could begin operations. Don’t forget, the Guard and Reserve is staffed by mostly combat veterans, so getting shot at will not make them pee their pants.

Then to keep the Guard and Reserve extra sharp, rotate them in and out of full time status, but make them year long deployments; we use to pray for long joint forge operations in the mid to late eighties to get foreign cooperative experience. I think this was why the Guard command structure was treated so badly in Desert Storm, because regular Army leaders were afraid they would lose their full time jobs if the Guard and Reserve did too well. In fact it seemed like they purposely picked units that had non-deployable status just to make us look bad in the first place. But it didn’t work — the Guard and Reserve put out 100% effort and the Army as a whole was a lot better for it.

Remember the former Soviet Union?

Remember its Military Based Economy?

Do you see what a Military Based Economy leads too?

Does the former Soviet Bloc have a National Recycle Plan — they have plenty of material for it !

How contaminated are their fresh water ground sources with “nuclear waste”?

What lessons are their to learn here?

Is “Wisdom” learning from the “mistakes of others”?

Is the current SecOfDef ® reigning end “Run Amok Pentagon Spending”?

Do you think a national internal defense and development program; other then out of control Defense Spending will honestly bankrupt this nation?

Do you think calling another “scum” is going to get your point across?

I am an Independent, and I get disturbed by ANYONE calling me scum because I do not agree with Accountability and Responsibility because they are of another political party.

Do you think being a “Pseudo Intellectual” is really going to get you anything?

“Always Question The Answer s and Validate and Confirm before you Speak”

JPWalman — Dirty little secret is that we are not really protecting S.Korea from N.Korea, we are prohibiting S.Korea from kicking the North’s
a$$. The North may have a large amount of troops, but they would be no match for the South. Personally, I am for getting out of the South’s way and letting them take care of business. We should not only pull out of S.Korea, we should tell the Japs to REARM and we should pull out of there too. We can still be their ally, with a strong Navy we could easily still help them out if needed, we simply do not need our ground troops and Air Force parked over there. We also should pull out of Europe as well, there is no need to help them save money on their defense spending. I am tired of protecting those ingrates.

As far as Iraq and Afganistan go, we have given those people long enough to get their act together, if they can’t by now, they never will. We should pull out now! After we pull all of our people out, then in the middle of the night, out in the middle of the Afgan desert, we should drop our biggest Nuke. We do this at night so that all those rag heads can see it, scare the hell out of them, then tell them the next time they @#%K with us, we will turn their country into glass. We will also deal with these Islamo crazies in a different way. Instead of keeping them in the Holiday Inn Gitmo or giving them civilian rights and trials, we will build a new prison. It will be in North Dakota out in the middle of nowhere and in the middle of a PIG FARM. They will get 3 square meals a day, sausage and bacon in the morning, bologna and hot dogs for lunch, and ham for dinner. For those who blow themselves up, we will finds some of their body parts and feed those to pigs. All of this will GUARANTEE that they will go to Hell! They will not get any virgins and they will not be heros.

Last but not least, dealing with our corrupt politicians from both parties, this is one job that I would definitely outsource to the Chinese! I like their method of dealing with corruption.

THIS COUNTRY GOES UP AND DOWN WITH OUR ELECTED LEADERS,SOME TIMES TO FAR DOWN,IS THE ONE TIME WE ARE “OUT”.….…

This post has a lot of code language in it. “integrated standing force” ? Sounds like the Canadian Defense Forces. And forward deployments are a way of life in the US military. Foward deployment keeps the USA engaged in the world. Otherwise we will become a third-rate declining power. One of the most interesting comments McKeon made was his reference to “an increasing reliance on foreign firms to meet our defense needs” — now maybe that is just a reference to BAE and Qiniteq — services rather than products. MRAP notwithstanding, I don’t see a really coherent “two way street” approach to arms cooperation with our allies from this administration, much less the GOP.

Redneck, you are so wrong in your evaluation of Reagan’s running up the deficit that it boggles the imagination that you are still allowed to vote. You are aware that St. Ronny Ray-gun never did offer a balanced budget to Congress in the eight years he was in the Oval Office (he really wasn’t President for the last four years of that, as we now know, only keeping the chair warm for Bush Pere), right? I’m not talking about what he might have “had” to sign after it was massaged by Congress, I’m talking about what his boys sent up to Congress for consideration. Further, after Greenspan bamboozled everybody with his Social Security reform, FICA surpluses made St. Ronny’s budget deficits look better than they should have. Over-expenditure on defense programs is precisely what drove the budget deficits up, no matter how much you and your like-minded colleagues might like to re-write history. Even Stockman knows that the Reagan administration was a fiscal disaster and has said so and he headed up St. Ronny’s budget office.

You are aware that the $60 trillion figure you just bruited about the Social Security and Medicare obligation isn’t for the next 20 years but for infinity, right? Without lying about the debt built up through conservative improvidence and insane fiscal and financial policies, I guess you wouldn’t have much of a strawman to wrestle with though. For the last thirty years, the average working person has been carrying the wealthy on their backs through the Social Security surplus and now that elitist scum wants to renege on the “bargain” Greenspan crafted back in the mid-1980s. That’s theft writ large, and it ain’t the underclasses pulling off the heist.

BOOMER, your radical activist Roberts Court appointed by good, right-thinking Republican administrations has made it impossible to make lobbying illegal. Without think tanks to give jobs to out-of-work Republican policy wonks, what do you think these failures are going to do? All of those programs you decry would not fund the DoD for an hour. We wasted more money with Blackwater and Halliburton contracts over the last eight years than any of those organizations you clearly hate so much have received over the last century. The same could be said for the poorly administered defense programs in which the contractors have been allowed to charge multiple times for the technologies they were supposed to deliver in the original contract. That’s the welfare in our modern world.

Finally! Some intelligent exchanges. Our Founding Fathers had it right. A standing army only gets you into trouble — losing both blood and treasure. We never demobilized after WW2. Too much fear. Same as now. We should not be expanding the Army and Marine Corps; we should be shrinking them, with a large reserve element — like our original militias, which really are the National Guard. That will keep us well armed and ready, but not fighting other nations’ fight. Germany, South Korea, japan — all have plenty of money to defend themselves. Let them do it.

During teddy Roosevelt’s second primary, things wre dull, until he heard that the Ragouli, a Morrocan bandit, ha kidna[ed a U.S. citizen. Teddy sent the fleet to Tunis, and told the Sultan, either he got the hostage (Greek name, can’t remember it) back alive, or the Ragouli dead-or, th eimplication was, he’d level Tunis. The Sultan paid the ransom and delivered the hostage. No troops, no nation builidng-end of story (not really, read about the Riff Rebellion for more). Politcs is simple-and war is just an extension of politcs by other means-Our problem is that we’re trying to social engineer the world the same way we’re social engineering our own coutnry and discovering that it doesn’t work aborad any better than it works here.

You have no comprehension how much Blackwater has done for the War on Terrorism. Please refrain from making statements which have no factual basis.

What? Are you insane? Thomas Jefferson himself said banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies. The concept of a militia based military does not work for a country like the United States in modern times. Tell me how is one state going to afford a single modern submarine or destroyer? Or develop a new fighter aircraft? And why should we let any foreign power rule over us because they have invested in such weaponry?

There was a draw-down after World War II, yet we rightfully did not repeat the same mistake we made after World War I. We maintained our strength and have continued the research and development required to keep the technological edge. If we had declawed the American eagle after World War II, why wouldn’t have Stalin roll into Western Europe during his final years? Even after Stalin died would it have been wise to let the Soviets be the world’s unchallengeable superpower?

The National Guard is armed with equipment it takes a serious investment to design and build. They and the active Army are trained far better than our early militias, and this is necessary in this day and age.

Even if we withdraw most of our forces from countries like Germany, South Korea, and Japan, we should maintain the size of our currently military, continue building new equipment, and ensuring they are a 1st class fighting force.

You could at least try to make sense…

It all comes down to simple Economics 101…guns or butter. Ya cannot keep attempting to maximize both, sooner or later you go broke trying.

As far as the military is concerned, there isn’t a thing that can be built that cannot be defeated or destroyed. Most of what we see and hear from the military/industrial complex is just BS and an attempt to suck more and more taxpayer dollars into their web of waste. And of course, they always add the fear factor into the equation. Keep people scared and they will agree to almost anything.

We have enough now to destroy planet Earth. How much more do we need? No matter what is developed, there are always other smart and intelligent people in this world that will develop a system to defeat anything. Does everyone remember the Chinese diesel sub that popped up in the middle of one of our small armada’s in the South China Sea? So much for our technology leadership and progress…a diesel sub faking us out after the taxpayer has shelled out billions of dollars with promises from the fat cats of the arms industry! And there are those here who want to give them more $$$$$‘s…

S/F Gordon

Sometimes policy validity can only be tested on a “recon-by-fire” approach. Most of our nations current and post 1800 engagements have been on foreign soil as preemptive endeavors to protect our native land and to assist our allies.

Have you considered banana republics increase their strength for use internally. Our Can’t. Wan’t is Presidnet Obama that stated he wanted a second Military Force to be funded eqaully as our Combat Military. History tells us only totalitariians find it necessary to have a force to use against their own. I believe you may have your story backwards.

We do know how much Blackwater has done to the War on Terrorism, and it isn’t pretty. Your comment has no factual basis either from what I can tell, other than your assertion that you know more than others. That’s the type of authoritarian response I might expect someone to provide. All that you want to do is shut me up because Blackwater and other crony corporations have pilfered the Treasury and harmed this nation and its reputation. That’s fact and you aren’t going to be allowed to rewrite history to your liking because your boys are goons and you don’t want to acknowledge it.

Bill Lind has drunk this koolaid. Anything to make our defenses weaker, I guess, is the definition of military “reform”

This exactly is why we needed Obama in office this red necks wanna just continue to make the high dollar but not think about others needs..Forget about China we’ve got our own problems here take care of america first then worry of what needs to be done else where…stop the corruption and miss handleling of the tax payers.

The GOP, you got to be kidding me. Never before in the History of this greate nation has there been a more worthless bunch of so called law makers as todays GOP. Most of them will probably be voted into office again, but I’ll bet some of them will be gone.…soon but not soon enough. “Spend more, engage less”, that don’t make sense, I’ll bet that don’t even make sense to them, they probably said it because they heard it on FAKE NEWS. I think they are up-set because things are better and they wanted things to “fail”. I love it when they are wrong, of course they’ve been wrong for the last umteen years.

I see you can’t make changes here either when you make a mistake.

Partizan, yeah right, what was I thinking? I shouldn’t have looked at the data from the CBO and OMB on the federal budget during the Reagan years. I shouldn’t look at the FACT that almost 2/3rds of the budget is locked up in entitlements and barely 1/8th of the budget goes to defense. I shouldn’t look at the FACT that 6 of the Reagan years, we had a democrat congress. I shouldn’t look at the FACT that social spending skyrocketed during those years, far more than the “evil defense spending” that you demonize. Sure, I agree that there is a lot of fraud and waste in defense spneding, that can and should be corrected, but it is a drop in the bucket compared to the fraud, waste, and abuse that happens in entitlement spending. And when you actually look at both the CBO’s and OMB’s budget reports, it’s very easy to see the correlation between entitlement spending and the deficit. But no, you’re right, we need more Presidents like Carter and Obama who care so much for our nation’s defense, LOL. And you and your ACORN buddies should be the only ones that should be allowed to vote.

worrier, yes Bush and the RINOs that controlled Congress for 6 years were pretty worthless. If they would have stuck to the GOP platform, they wouldn’t have opened the door to this mess in the first place. But the most worhtless bunch of law makers in our great nations history? No, sorry, you’re idols Obama, Reid, and Pelosi take the title for that. They are not only doing what Bush and the RINOs did, but they are taking that to a whole higher level. They have already increased our debt in one year more than Bush did in eight years. Things are better? Maybe the weed you are smoking is better, and you probably think things are better because you heard it on one of the state-run networks like the CommunistNewsNetwork, the AllBarackChannel, the NothingButCrap, PMSNBC, networks, or the NYT. By the way, that pinko commie is failing, I guarantee you that 2010 will be a politcal disaster for the democraps.

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