Comments on: Marines Like Rat Patrol Jeeps http://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/ Online Defense and Acquisition Journal Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:34:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sgt. garciahttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-33802 sgt. garcia Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:32:37 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-33802 I don't know about that back in 2004 when we didnt have much armor on the humvees/ even with armor hittin those IED's was no joke there was nothing left of the vehicles so as far as jeeps go! Were are becomming indesposable! Sgt. Garcia 2007 2/2 mar div. I don’t know about that back in 2004 when we didnt have much armor on the humvees/ even with armor hittin those IED’s was no joke there was nothing left of the vehicles so as far as jeeps go! Were are becomming indesposable! Sgt. Garcia 2007 2/2 mar div.

]]> By: Kane Younghttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-32667 Kane Young Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:37:24 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-32667 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eff7M9EZYPc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eff7M9EZYPc</a> Lots of capability in this LASSO vehicle! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eff7M9EZYPc

Lots of capability in this LASSO vehicle!

]]> By: Rich Smithhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-23578 Rich Smith Thu, 22 Apr 2010 02:39:03 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-23578 They never should of gotten rid of the 1/4ton M151 A2 MUTT ! They could of upgraded them to new standards. If they want one they can have mine for $15,000 which I own myself. thats a deal.....(-: They never should of gotten rid of the 1/4ton M151 A2 MUTT ! They could of upgraded them to new standards. If they want one they can have mine for $15,000 which I own myself. thats a deal.….(-:

]]> By: Danhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-23368 Dan Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:50:03 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-23368 Better check your stats. I designed the LASSO Vehicle to fit inside the Osprey. From the Department of the Navy V-22 Transportability document: "The clear cabin width of the V-22 is 68.0 inches with the seats in the stowed position. THE MINIMUM CLEARANCE REQUIRED BETWEEN EACH SIDE OF THE AIRCRAFT AND THE VEHICLE IS 4.0 INCHES. THIS REQUIRES A VEHICLE TO HAVE NO WIDTH DIMENSIONS IN EXCESS OF 60 INCHES. So there! :oP Better check your stats. I designed the LASSO Vehicle to fit inside the Osprey.
From the Department of the Navy V-22 Transportability document: “The clear cabin width of the V-22 is 68.0 inches with the seats in the stowed position. THE MINIMUM CLEARANCE REQUIRED BETWEEN EACH SIDE OF THE AIRCRAFT AND THE VEHICLE IS 4.0 INCHES. THIS REQUIRES A VEHICLE TO HAVE NO WIDTH DIMENSIONS IN EXCESS OF 60 INCHES. So there! :oP

]]> By: Danhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-21738 Dan Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:51:03 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-21738 Take a look at the LASSO Vehicle being developed by VSE Corporation. Full-time (locked) SIX-wheel drive, fully independent suspension, 3-cylinder turbo-diesel (w/JP8 capability), FITS IN THE V-22 Osprey, 3,000 pound payload, 6,000 pound GVWR, ability to carry class IV materials (4' x 8' plywood sheets), significant COTS content, meets 60% slope/40% side slope, traverses 14" step, 22" fording depth (without fording kit), 12 inches of ground clearance, 9 inches of suspension travel, common military controls, meets J2194 ROPS (Roll Over Protection System) requirements. Do a search on youtube for "6 x 6 wall climb" and follow the Weissmann link for several other videos of the LASSO vehicle test-grinding through the mud and the (3) rock crawl courses at "The Mounds" off-road park in Genesee County, Michigan. Take a look at the LASSO Vehicle being developed by VSE Corporation. Full-time (locked) SIX-wheel drive, fully independent suspension, 3-cylinder turbo-diesel (w/JP8 capability), FITS IN THE V-22 Osprey, 3,000 pound payload, 6,000 pound GVWR, ability to carry class IV materials (4′ x 8′ plywood sheets), significant COTS content, meets 60% slope/40% side slope, traverses 14″ step, 22″ fording depth (without fording kit), 12 inches of ground clearance, 9 inches of suspension travel, common military controls, meets J2194 ROPS (Roll Over Protection System) requirements. Do a search on youtube for “6 x 6 wall climb” and follow the Weissmann link for several other videos of the LASSO vehicle test-grinding through the mud and the (3) rock crawl courses at “The Mounds” off-road park in Genesee County, Michigan.

]]> By: Danhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-21737 Dan Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:47:19 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-21737 Uh...how about fit inside a V-22 Osprey? Uh…how about fit inside a V-22 Osprey?

]]> By: FormerDirtDarthttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-21311 FormerDirtDart Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:27:39 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-21311 The V-22's cabin and cargo ramp are capable of accepting cargo pallets or containers as large as 68 inches wide, 66.23 inches high, and 250 inches long as long as the object is capable of achieving the necessary restraint criteria. The Osprey has a usable cabin volume of 739 cu ft and is designed to carry up to a 20,000 lb load internally. The V-22’s cabin and cargo ramp are capable of accepting cargo pallets or containers as large as 68 inches wide, 66.23 inches high, and 250 inches long as long as the object is capable of achieving the necessary restraint criteria. The Osprey has a usable cabin volume of 739 cu ft and is designed to carry up to a 20,000 lb load internally.

]]> By: Danhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-21306 Dan Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:39:48 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-21306 Ummmm...the V-22 CANNOT take a vehicle that is 5' 6" wide. 56" is the max allowable width. 5' 6" is 10 inches too wide for the Osprey. Ummmm…the V-22 CANNOT take a vehicle that is 5′ 6″ wide. 56″ is the max allowable width. 5′ 6″ is 10 inches too wide for the Osprey.

]]> By: Danhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-21305 Dan Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:37:58 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-21305 THERE it is "ITV"...ITV = Internally Transportable Vehicle! They want something that fits into a V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft. Mmmaybe you didn't pick that part of the conversation up though. THERE it is “ITV”…ITV = Internally Transportable Vehicle! They want something that fits into a V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft. Mmmaybe you didn’t pick that part of the conversation up though.

]]> By: Danhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-21303 Dan Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:34:31 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-21303 The BIG difference is that they needed something that they could stuff into a V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft. Which, by the way, the VSE Corporation LASSO Vehicle will do. The BIG difference is that they needed something that they could stuff into a V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft. Which, by the way, the VSE Corporation LASSO Vehicle will do.

]]> By: Danhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-20981 Dan Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:58:13 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-20981 Take a look at the LASSO Vehicle being developed by VSE Corporation. Full-time (locked) SIX-wheel drive, fully independent suspension, 3-cylinder turbo-diesel (w/JP8 capability), FITS IN THE V-22 Osprey, 3,000 pound payload, 6,000 pound GVWR, ability to carry class IV materials (4' x 8' plywood sheets), significant COTS content, meets 60% slope/40% side slope, traverses 14" step, 22" fording depth (without fording kit), 12 inches of ground clearance, 9 inches of suspension travel, common military controls, meets J2194 ROPS (Roll Over Protection System) requirements. Do a search on youtube for "6 x 6 wall climb" and follow the Weissmann link for several other videos of the LASSO vehicle test-grinding through the mud and the (3) rock crawl courses at "The Mounds" off-road park in Genesee County, Michigan. Take a look at the LASSO Vehicle being developed by VSE Corporation. Full-time (locked) SIX-wheel drive, fully independent suspension, 3-cylinder turbo-diesel (w/JP8 capability), FITS IN THE V-22 Osprey, 3,000 pound payload, 6,000 pound GVWR, ability to carry class IV materials (4′ x 8′ plywood sheets), significant COTS content, meets 60% slope/40% side slope, traverses 14″ step, 22″ fording depth (without fording kit), 12 inches of ground clearance, 9 inches of suspension travel, common military controls, meets J2194 ROPS (Roll Over Protection System) requirements. Do a search on youtube for “6 x 6 wall climb” and follow the Weissmann link for several other videos of the LASSO vehicle test-grinding through the mud and the (3) rock crawl courses at “The Mounds” off-road park in Genesee County, Michigan.

]]> By: red doghttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-20835 red dog Sat, 27 Feb 2010 05:21:38 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-20835 LEAVE IT TO THE CORP TO OVERSPEND ON A GLORIFIED JEEP. ALTHOUGHTHE CONCEPT OF HIT QUICK, PULL BACK, AND DO MAXIMUM DAMAGE AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT OBJECTIVE. BUT HOW DO YOU HANDLE I.E.D.'S? LEAVE IT TO THE CORP TO OVERSPEND ON A GLORIFIED JEEP. ALTHOUGHTHE CONCEPT OF HIT QUICK, PULL BACK, AND DO MAXIMUM DAMAGE AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT OBJECTIVE. BUT HOW DO YOU HANDLE I.E.D.‘S?

]]> By: old sargehttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-20832 old sarge Sat, 27 Feb 2010 05:18:10 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-20832 WELL LEAVE IT TO THE CORP TO SPEND MAJOR BUCKAGE ON A GLORIFIDE JEEP. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE KEEP IT LIGHT POLICY QUICK IN, QUICK OUT AND CAUSE MAXIMUM DAMAGE. WORKED GREAT IN VIET NAM. WELL LEAVE IT TO THE CORP TO SPEND MAJOR BUCKAGE ON A GLORIFIDE JEEP. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE KEEP IT LIGHT POLICY QUICK IN, QUICK OUT AND CAUSE MAXIMUM DAMAGE. WORKED GREAT IN VIET NAM.

]]> By: jeffhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-20615 jeff Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:46:54 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-20615 what about a john deer gator? or other ATV there has to be a less expensive answer. what about a john deer gator? or other ATV there has to be a less expensive answer.

]]> By: Dylanhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-20496 Dylan Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:25:01 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-20496 If I have any comprehension level at all for what I've read here they are selling a stripped down basic style carolina growler willy jeep hybrib for way overprice. There is no doubt in my mind $270,000 is way too much for a vehicle of this type. To be honest I can't barely see what this vehicle can do that a HUMMER can't. From what I've read those have no armor either and have been produced already too (for cheaper). I can see the RAT is smaller than a HUMMER but other than that no real advantage. If I have any comprehension level at all for what I’ve read here they are selling a stripped down basic style carolina growler willy jeep hybrib for way overprice. There is no doubt in my mind $270,000 is way too much for a vehicle of this type. To be honest I can’t barely see what this vehicle can do that a HUMMER can’t. From what I’ve read those have no armor either and have been produced already too (for cheaper). I can see the RAT is smaller than a HUMMER but other than that no real advantage.

]]> By: Carlhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-20412 Carl Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:23:46 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-20412 Perhaps the problem is that the V-22 isn't wide enough ? Perhaps the problem is that the V-22 isn’t wide enough ?

]]> By: JCitizenhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-20377 JCitizen Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:56:38 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-20377 That is definitely more of what I would have though to be a base for this design! That is definitely more of what I would have though to be a base for this design!

]]> By: DANIELhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-20367 DANIEL Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:11:54 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-20367 Today I read another depressing article about how another part of our troops are being saddled with an expensive fix me up. I always believed if the country ( our govt. ) was to send our well trained troops into Harmsway over seas. They should be the most well equiped soldiers around the world. Are the powers to be ever going get it right or should our soldiers be taking their own cross to mark where they fall because some person back home is going to the bank instead helping in all reality. Cut the price gauging and think hard and visualize your son or someone close facing an enemy with not the right equipment. Cut the costs and not the lives of our men whereever they are stationed . Today I read another depressing article about how another part of our troops are being saddled with an expensive fix me up. I always believed if the country ( our govt. ) was to send our well trained troops into Harmsway over seas. They should be the most well equiped soldiers around the world. Are the powers to be ever going get it right or should our soldiers be taking their own cross to mark where they fall because some person back home is going to the bank instead helping in all reality. Cut the price gauging and think hard and visualize your son or someone close facing an enemy with not the right equipment. Cut the costs and not the lives of our men whereever they are stationed .

]]> By: Curthttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-20366 Curt Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:09:00 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-20366 I bet we could get a light jeep for about $15,000.00 each. Fast and light. Rat Patrol II. I was the one of the 1st maint chief on the LAV's. We spend way too much mone on things. I bet we could get a light jeep for about $15,000.00 each. Fast and light. Rat Patrol II. I was the one of the 1st maint chief on the LAV’s. We spend way too much mone on things.

]]> By: williamhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/12/marines-like-rat-patrol-jeeps/#comment-20356 william Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:31:07 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13032#comment-20356 Explain to me how this "SYSTEM" as you call it warrants a $200k plus price tag. What technology involved makes this "SYSTEM" worth that much? What exactly about this "SYSTEM" has never been done before, because i dont see anthing that technologically advanced on this vehicle. This whole program appears to be a giant waste of money. Putting proven technology in a new package and claiming it to be advanced. Explain to me how this “SYSTEM” as you call it warrants a $200k plus price tag. What technology involved makes this “SYSTEM” worth that much? What exactly about this “SYSTEM” has never been done before, because i dont see anthing that technologically advanced on this vehicle. This whole program appears to be a giant waste of money. Putting proven technology in a new package and claiming it to be advanced.

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