Comments on: Too Few CG Cutters For Demands http://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/ Online Defense and Acquisition Journal Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:14:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: CGWarrant2http://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-21146 CGWarrant2 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:34:12 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-21146 Always trying to to do the best with less has finally caught up with us. Our image has to be changed from just "guarding the coast" to a more stronger role as a military organization and guarding the world. World situations now effect the roles of our young men and women "coasties" and our department heads should get in step and rebuild our mission(s) SOP's (not being afraid to ask for/demand a bigger piece of the military funding buget. In order to do more....demand more. More more planes, more ships, more stations, more personel and more military training involvements. My military career involved interactions with other military services and exercises and saw this day coming, but was told I was out of the box back then. Wee good at what we do, but today's sltuations demands we do more ...Always Ready??????? Always trying to to do the best with less has finally caught up with us. Our image has to be changed from just “guarding the coast” to a more stronger role as a military organization and guarding the world. World situations now effect the roles of our young men and women “coasties” and our department heads should get in step and rebuild our mission(s) SOP’s (not being afraid to ask for/demand a bigger piece of the military funding buget. In order to do more.…demand more. More more planes, more ships, more stations, more personel and more military training involvements. My military career involved interactions with other military services and exercises and saw this day coming, but was told I was out of the box back then. Wee good at what we do, but today’s sltuations demands we do more …Always Ready???????

]]> By: John Kinghttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20933 John King Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:55:54 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20933 F. Micheal et al, I believe we all agree that under whoever's "management control the Coast Guard should be, they need to get their act together and be proactive about mapping out what they need, and marketing it to the American public. Looks like they need some active companion organization to make their case since they aren't allowed out of the box to speak freely as they should. F. Micheal et al,
I believe we all agree that under whoever’s “management control the Coast Guard should be, they need to get their act together and be proactive about mapping out what they need, and marketing it to the American public. Looks like they need some active companion organization to make their case since they aren’t allowed out of the box to speak freely as they should.

]]> By: Jim Drozdowskihttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20929 Jim Drozdowski Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:11:42 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20929 Drug smuggling is the USA's #1 enemy not Al Quaeda and that is where we should spend our diminishing resources, stopping the drug trad. Drug smuggling is the USA’s #1 enemy not Al Quaeda and that is where we should spend our diminishing resources, stopping the drug trad.

]]> By: PHILIP M. HAJOSThttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20924 PHILIP M. HAJOST Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:43:24 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20924 Bottom line is the Navy has to many people and they don't cross train like us Coasties, they need so place to put all of them. There is a job for everybody in the Navy. We all know that the 378' are an aging fleet and the 210's are getting there, and the 110's are there too. As far as I'm concerned its our time to shine, cut the Navy's legs out from under them and give us the money for our aging fleet, where the money we'll be we'll spent. We are doing the job everyday, numbers don't lie. Its time we quit trying to polish terds. Bottom line is the Navy has to many people and they don’t cross train like us Coasties, they need so place to put all of them. There is a job for everybody in the Navy. We all know that the 378′ are an aging fleet and the 210’s are getting there, and the 110’s are there too. As far as I’m concerned its our time to shine, cut the Navy’s legs out from under them and give us the money for our aging fleet, where the money we’ll be we’ll spent. We are doing the job everyday, numbers don’t lie. Its time we quit trying to polish terds.

]]> By: Big Easy Flight Mechhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20922 Big Easy Flight Mech Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:11:15 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20922 What i was trying to say that i think Senior chief ret. didnt understand was the fact that we need to become DOD but, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT LEGAL TO STILL DO WHAT WE DO AND BE DOD with it's funding, WERE AMERICA WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT! What i was trying to say that i think Senior chief ret. didnt understand was the fact that we need to become DOD but, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT LEGAL TO STILL DO WHAT WE DO AND BE DOD with it’s funding, WERE AMERICA WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT!

]]> By: ARDhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20882 ARD Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:47:47 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20882 I am sorry Solomon, but after eight years with the Coast Guard, I can state with certainty that you are wrong. It is routine for our ships to operate independantly for 60-90 days at a time. We just call them patrols. The average length of our patrols varies by the vessel, but the smaller 378 foot WHEC class, which the NSC will hopefully eventually replace has 82-95 day standard patrols, and often ends up going longer when we end up getting re-tasked. Please check your facts before posting. The US Coast Guard is out in international waters every day just like the navy, but we very rarely end up sailing with them. I can remember sailing with navy ships twice, both times were for less than a day, and were for photo oportunities. I am sorry Solomon, but after eight years with the Coast Guard, I can state with certainty that you are wrong. It is routine for our ships to operate independantly for 60–90 days at a time. We just call them patrols. The average length of our patrols varies by the vessel, but the smaller 378 foot WHEC class, which the NSC will hopefully eventually replace has 82–95 day standard patrols, and often ends up going longer when we end up getting re-tasked. Please check your facts before posting. The US Coast Guard is out in international waters every day just like the navy, but we very rarely end up sailing with them. I can remember sailing with navy ships twice, both times were for less than a day, and were for photo oportunities.

]]> By: Ivanhoe99http://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20840 Ivanhoe99 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:27:16 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20840 I seem to recall Adm Allen, in the State of the Coast Guard presentation I saw, say that of the twelve Cutters responding to the Haiti crisis ten had major equipment problems and one had to be drydocked. Add that to the fact that the building of new ships has been removed from the Coast Guard it appears that the service has endemic, major management problems in operating and managing its own current affairs. There does not appear to be a program in effect to develop a service cutter, maintain a service cutter properly, and have a replacement cutter in place at the proper time. Poor management, like cream, rises to the top every time. Also, the volunteer arm, the Auxiliary, is so inept that during a recent survey, of 34m auxiliarists only 5,700 bothered to respond. The Coast Guard really praises itself but needs to be overhauled from top to bottom. I seem to recall Adm Allen, in the State of the Coast Guard presentation I saw, say that of the twelve Cutters responding to the Haiti crisis ten had major equipment problems and one had to be drydocked. Add that to the fact that the building of new ships has been removed from the Coast Guard it appears that the service has endemic, major management problems in operating and managing its own current affairs. There does not appear to be a program in effect to develop a service cutter, maintain a service cutter properly, and have a replacement cutter in place at the proper time.

Poor management, like cream, rises to the top every time.

Also, the volunteer arm, the Auxiliary, is so inept that during a recent survey, of 34m auxiliarists only 5,700 bothered to respond.

The Coast Guard really praises itself but needs to be overhauled from top to bottom.

]]> By: H Russellhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20836 H Russell Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:54:04 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20836 In some ways USA goes overboard in protecting boaters. At least we now charge for refueling,. but only for the negligable cost of the fuel itself. Britain's boaters are rescued by a volunteer force. Spain uses private rescue companies , who charge you. If the states had to contribute a % to units like the Astoria Air Station, it would be discontinued. Columbia mouth SAR was handled at one time as a temporary summer detail. --Summer is when the boaters are out. Now it is year round. CG could not use Posse Commitatus if CG were under DOD. In some ways USA goes overboard in protecting boaters. At least we now charge for refueling,. but only for the negligable cost of the fuel itself.

Britain’s boaters are rescued by a volunteer force. Spain uses private rescue companies , who charge you. If the states had to contribute a % to units like the Astoria Air Station, it would be discontinued. Columbia mouth SAR was handled at one time as a temporary summer detail. –Summer is when the boaters are out. Now it is year round.

CG could not use Posse Commitatus if CG were under DOD.

]]> By: AD SCPOhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20831 AD SCPO Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:09:59 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20831 I understand the DoD is not the final answer. I'm prior Army and just spent 12 months in embedded in an Army command in Iraq. My point was/is we need to do anything to get away from DHS. You can't point to one item as THE problem, perhaps the promotion system is one of the problems but there are so many greater cultural action items that need to be addressed that the promotion system doesn't even blip on the radar as one we should try to change at this point. I understand the DoD is not the final answer. I’m prior Army and just spent 12 months in embedded in an Army command in Iraq. My point was/is we need to do anything to get away from DHS. You can’t point to one item as THE problem, perhaps the promotion system is one of the problems but there are so many greater cultural action items that need to be addressed that the promotion system doesn’t even blip on the radar as one we should try to change at this point.

]]> By: AD SCPOhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20830 AD SCPO Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:02:57 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20830 Senior Chief retired: Please don't talk down to me or anyone else. All of us are very familiar with Posse Commitatus. Allot has changed since you got out. In fact, it's still changing, every damn day. Which is a huge problem. Allot hasn't though. As in Ron's excellent talking points about lack of support from HQ on up. Nonetheless, we're just searching, discussing, and hoping for more money, people, and resources. None of which will happen as the budget got cut by $75 million, we're losing approx 1100 people and 453 billets overall. As well, Cape May is shutting down for the remainder of FY10 with 5 major cutters slated for razors and 5 MSST's going away. We understand where our authorities derive. That isn't what's on the table here. Stay on point. In fact one last thing, I'm pretty darn tired of dinosaurs with holier then thow perspectives. When you got out you we're still routing hard copy messages on clip boards with a rubber stamp for each dept head's initials. You throw a couple of examples in type (above) and talk about training. Man you have know idea of how things are run anymore. Your best bet is to stick with opinion based blogging because you've been out of it too long to speak on today's facts. Senior Chief retired: Please don’t talk down to me or anyone else. All of us are very familiar with Posse Commitatus. Allot has changed since you got out. In fact, it’s still changing, every damn day. Which is a huge problem. Allot hasn’t though. As in Ron’s excellent talking points about lack of support from HQ on up. Nonetheless, we’re just searching, discussing, and hoping for more money, people, and resources. None of which will happen as the budget got cut by $75 million, we’re losing approx 1100 people and 453 billets overall. As well, Cape May is shutting down for the remainder of FY10 with 5 major cutters slated for razors and 5 MSST’s going away.
We understand where our authorities derive. That isn’t what’s on the table here. Stay on point. In fact one last thing, I’m pretty darn tired of dinosaurs with holier then thow perspectives. When you got out you we’re still routing hard copy messages on clip boards with a rubber stamp for each dept head’s initials. You throw a couple of examples in type (above) and talk about training. Man you have know idea of how things are run anymore. Your best bet is to stick with opinion based blogging because you’ve been out of it too long to speak on today’s facts.

]]> By: Ronhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20833 Ron Sat, 27 Feb 2010 03:26:50 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20833 For the last half century the Coast Guard has established a history of mismanaging major procurement projects of both ships and aircraft. Their best and longest lasting equipment has been that which they inherited from the US Navy. The Coast Guard also has a mandate to be able to function as a part of the Navy in a time of National Emergency. The Medium Endurance cutter and above can be satisfied by retrofitting Fast Frigates. Aircraft should be derived from standard military aircraft. The Coast Guard is too small to provide depot level repair for aircraft and major assets. They would be much better served with assets that have major repair programs already in place. The Coast Guard does have some unique requirements in buoy tenders, patrol boats, and small craft. This is the only place that the Coast Guard should specialize. The Coast Guard has been fortunate in that they have an outstanding force of operational personnel. For many decades they have been responsible for taking substandard equipment and making it perform outstandingly. The people performing Coast Guard operations have never had the support from headquarters, the department to which they are attached, congress or the White House that they deserve. The Treasury, Transportation, and Homeland Security departments have never maintained sufficient people who know how to manage assets the Coast Guard has. Coast Guard headquarters has never tried to interface with the Navy in the way necessary to benefit both services. Congress has never practiced proper oversight. The White House only wants to give the Coast Guard more missions while cutting personnel and budgets. What the people in the Coast Guard need are for all veterans to keep after those in congress and the executive branch to do their jobs, as well as those in Coast Guard Headquarters to act responsibly.They also need healtyy debate on how best to chart the future. For the last half century the Coast Guard has established a history of mismanaging major procurement projects of both ships and aircraft. Their best and longest lasting equipment has been that which they inherited from the US Navy. The Coast Guard also has a mandate to be able to function as a part of the Navy in a time of National Emergency. The Medium Endurance cutter and above can be satisfied by retrofitting Fast Frigates. Aircraft should be derived from standard military aircraft. The Coast Guard is too small to provide depot level repair for aircraft and major assets. They would be much better served with assets that have major repair programs already in place. The Coast Guard does have some unique requirements in buoy tenders, patrol boats, and small craft. This is the only place that the Coast Guard should specialize. The Coast Guard has been fortunate in that they have an outstanding force of operational personnel. For many decades they have been responsible for taking substandard equipment and making it perform outstandingly. The people performing Coast Guard operations have never had the support from headquarters, the department to which they are attached, congress or the White House that they deserve. The Treasury, Transportation, and Homeland Security departments have never maintained sufficient people who know how to manage assets the Coast Guard has. Coast Guard headquarters has never tried to interface with the Navy in the way necessary to benefit both services. Congress has never practiced proper oversight. The White House only wants to give the Coast Guard more missions while cutting personnel and budgets. What the people in the Coast Guard need are for all veterans to keep after those in congress and the executive branch to do their jobs, as well as those in Coast Guard Headquarters to act responsibly.They also need healtyy debate on how best to chart the future.

]]> By: F Michael Kienhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20826 F Michael Kien Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:03:00 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20826 John, You and I were both money men. I was a DASC in the Pentagon, and you are on the right track. Not just the Commandant but the entire CG Leadership has to demand resources for new and/or intensifying missions. The promotion system makes them such wimps none of them will do it. Being able to properly justify decisions and use of resources is a big part too, but if you don't step up to the plate you cant score any runs. F Michael Kien John,

You and I were both money men. I was a DASC in the Pentagon, and you are on the right track. Not just the Commandant but the entire CG Leadership has to demand resources for new and/or intensifying missions. The promotion system makes them such wimps none of them will do it. Being able to properly justify decisions and use of resources is a big part too, but if you don’t step up to the plate you cant score any runs.

F Michael Kien

]]> By: F Michael Kienhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20824 F Michael Kien Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:51:50 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20824 AD SCPO, That's not going to help! When DOT was formed the Coast Guard set up the organization and was the largest segment of the department and still lost out in the bid for funding and personnel. In DOD the Coast Guard would be run over by a M-1 Tank. The problem is the CG Leadership being under the promotion system that constantly makes you watch your back makes them gun shy when it comes to making important decisions. They don't make it clear that new and jacking up the intensity of old missions costs and taking that cost out of hide only works for a while, F Michael Kien AD SCPO,

That’s not going to help! When DOT was formed the Coast Guard set up the organization and was the largest segment of the department and still lost out in the bid for funding and personnel. In DOD the Coast Guard would be run over by a M-1 Tank. The problem is the CG Leadership being under the promotion system that constantly makes you watch your back makes them gun shy when it comes to making important decisions. They don’t make it clear that new and jacking up the intensity of old missions costs and taking that cost out of hide only works for a while,

F Michael Kien

]]> By: Senior Chief, ret.http://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20776 Senior Chief, ret. Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:13:33 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20776 Big Easy Flight Mech and AD SCPO: You guys need to go back and read Title 14 USC and the historical law reasons why the CG is not in DOD. Have you ever heard of "Posse Commitatus?" The CG can enforce federal law (not state as someone mistakenly posted earlier) because it is not part of DOD. The constitution prohibits the use of the "military" for law enforcement purposes except is special circumstances. What the Coast Guard has always needed was a bigger budget and more personnel. (I served from 1972-1993, by the way). My first cutter was an icebreaker built in the 1930's and given to the Russians under Lend Lease. With more money and people, the Coast Guard could train their people better to do the jobs assigned. That may have prevented the tragedy in California where a recreation boat was ran over by a CG small boat. Big Easy Flight Mech and AD SCPO: You guys need to go back and read Title 14 USC and the historical law reasons why the CG is not in DOD. Have you ever heard of “Posse Commitatus?” The CG can enforce federal law (not state as someone mistakenly posted earlier) because it is not part of DOD. The constitution prohibits the use of the “military” for law enforcement purposes except is special circumstances.

What the Coast Guard has always needed was a bigger budget and more personnel. (I served from 1972–1993, by the way). My first cutter was an icebreaker built in the 1930’s and given to the Russians under Lend Lease. With more money and people, the Coast Guard could train their people better to do the jobs assigned. That may have prevented the tragedy in California where a recreation boat was ran over by a CG small boat.

]]> By: CGMustanghttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20737 CGMustang Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:40:23 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20737 Problem is the Commandant did not say NO to the Secretary of Homeland Security and the current Administration in their telling the Coast Guard to take manpower cuts and cuts in its budget. Adm. Allan failed to stand on principal in getting his force what they need to perform all Coast Guard Missions. If he stands on principal, he gets fired, retires with 3 stars, at least he has stood up for his people. Regretfully, in the last 50 years our COMDT's have given in to the politicals with maybe the exception of Admiral Yost. My oberservations with over 28 years active and reserve service in the USCG. Problem is the Commandant did not say NO to the Secretary of Homeland Security and the current Administration in their telling the Coast Guard to take manpower cuts and cuts in its budget. Adm. Allan failed to stand on principal in getting his force what they need to perform all Coast Guard Missions. If he stands on principal, he gets fired, retires with 3 stars, at least he has stood up for his people. Regretfully, in the last 50 years our COMDT’s have given in to the politicals with maybe the exception of Admiral Yost. My oberservations with over 28 years active and reserve service in the USCG.

]]> By: AD SCPOhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20758 AD SCPO Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:04:44 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20758 Please DoD, absorb us. Somebody please get us from the clutches of DHS. The influx of civilians is brutal. The ridiculous training, the endless data calls, it's all so absurd. Thad you were good after 9/11 but it's time to go. Modernization will do nothing for our mission, DHS Secretary, God deliver us...Budget? What budget? Who above said we are not a SAR organization? That's our foundation, that's what we get paid for. When's the last time you heard of MSRT or a MSST with a valid real life CT mission or an actual real life shooting. Hey I love PWCS but at what cost? We need a new fleet - we're a sea going service that isn't going to sea anymore. BTW, no war is won at a best economical speed of 12 knots. As for special programs and special missions: the CG is too worried about being (overly) safe, to concerned with oversight, too in bed with industry, to ready to say we can do more with less year after year after year....cheers M8's. I'd kick more ass, but I'm not allowed to. Please DoD, absorb us. Somebody please get us from the clutches of DHS. The influx of civilians is brutal. The ridiculous training, the endless data calls, it’s all so absurd. Thad you were good after 9/11 but it’s time to go. Modernization will do nothing for our mission, DHS Secretary, God deliver us…Budget? What budget? Who above said we are not a SAR organization? That’s our foundation, that’s what we get paid for. When’s the last time you heard of MSRT or a MSST with a valid real life CT mission or an actual real life shooting. Hey I love PWCS but at what cost? We need a new fleet — we’re a sea going service that isn’t going to sea anymore. BTW, no war is won at a best economical speed of 12 knots. As for special programs and special missions: the CG is too worried about being (overly) safe, to concerned with oversight, too in bed with industry, to ready to say we can do more with less year after year after year.…cheers M8’s. I’d kick more ass, but I’m not allowed to.

]]> By: H Russellhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20755 H Russell Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:15:40 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20755 WHEC,'s have Pratt & Whitney jets , not the GE LM 2500. You are entirely correct, otherwise. I was the design Officer for the 378' WHEC's. The Navy engineers in the 1960's were ecstatic that USCG got the use of Gas Turbines accepted. The Navy's ships discussed here are gas turbine only. They are very short legged and burn fuel fast at all speeds especially at 40 knots. An oil tanker must be close by. This does not apply to the CG"s NSC or WHEC's because they both have big diesels for cruising at about 20 knots. WHEC,‘s have Pratt & Whitney jets , not the GE LM 2500. You are entirely correct, otherwise. I was the design Officer for the 378′ WHEC’s. The Navy engineers in the 1960’s were ecstatic that USCG got the use of Gas Turbines accepted. The Navy’s ships discussed here are gas turbine only. They are very short legged and burn fuel fast at all speeds especially at 40 knots.
An oil tanker must be close by. This does not apply to the CG“s NSC or WHEC’s because they both have big diesels for cruising at about 20 knots.

]]> By: Tim Shefflerhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20753 Tim Sheffler Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:54:18 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20753 Don't know if you know it Mr. Kien, But ADM Allen's father was a DCC in the Coast Guard. His training started early and was well learned! Don’t know if you know it Mr. Kien, But ADM Allen’s father was a DCC in the Coast Guard. His training started early and was well learned!

]]> By: Big Easy Flight Mechhttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20752 Big Easy Flight Mech Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:14:19 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20752 Reading all of these comments sure does bring up some good points, I'm an Aviator so i will keep it short like an AVDET! Have a NATO convention, somehow figure out how to detach the CG from the DHS, become DOD, and board vessels without being considered "an act of war" I think it is ridiculous that we arent DOD, keyword DEFENSE! last time i checked, when we go to other countries, we blow there places up. To me that's OFFENSE haha. But in all seriousness, If we become DOD, maybe we will get some money our way, and our spouses will have access to more grants for schooling which The CG doesnt have! Reading all of these comments sure does bring up some good points, I’m an Aviator so i will keep it short like an AVDET! Have a NATO convention, somehow figure out how to detach the CG from the DHS, become DOD, and board vessels without being considered “an act of war” I think it is ridiculous that we arent DOD, keyword DEFENSE! last time i checked, when we go to other countries, we blow there places up. To me that’s OFFENSE haha. But in all seriousness, If we become DOD, maybe we will get some money our way, and our spouses will have access to more grants for schooling which The CG doesnt have!

]]> By: Former Puddle Piratehttp://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/02/17/too-few-cg-cutters-for-demands/#comment-20750 Former Puddle Pirate Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:04:44 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/?p=13098#comment-20750 Sorry, but that is only one "value" of the Coast Guard. Search and Rescue is one mission that was inherited from the U.S. Life Saving Service. You forget that the Coast Guard of today was built from other Services and combined all of their missions under one Service. Sorry, but that is only one “value” of the Coast Guard. Search and Rescue is one mission that was inherited from the U.S. Life Saving Service. You forget that the Coast Guard of today was built from other Services and combined all of their missions under one Service.

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