Few JSF Changes After Nunn-McCurdy

Few JSF Changes After Nunn-McCurdy

Air Force Secretary Mike Donley confirmed the Joint Strike Fighter program will breach the Nunn-McCurdy cost growth limits but Congress should expect few changes after the mandated review occurs.

Donley told defense reporters that the Pentagon has already made many of the changes that are needed. “We’ve been taking all the mitigating and corrective actions we would take as if there were a Nunn-McCurdy breach,” he said. How big the breach will be and when it will be reported to Congress, he isn’t sure.

And while some in Congress and around the country are hoping that the current problems might lead to the program’s death, they can forget about it. “This is a fifth-generation fighter/attack capability. There are no alternatives to that in our system. Yes, you can build the 4.5 generation, enhanced capability F-15 kind of capability. But, really there are no good alternatives to F-35 at this point. This is a program to which we are deeply committed,” he said.


Under the recently revised Nunn-McCurdy laws, the defense secretary must certify the program is critical for national security, there are no alternatives and that the program’s management is ship shape.

I asked Donley if the program’s problems had discredited concurrency, a key concept that promised faster production rates and lower costs since testing could occur with early production planes instead of building test aircraft and then building early production planes. He said “the jury is still out” but clearly Lockheed is going to have a harder time then ever proving that it works and helps to contain costs.

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“the jury is still out” has been the disclaimer of every program manager and acquisition executive for the last 50 years! The Congress needs to request a month-by-month development program performance track by specific aircraft functional area to get to the heart of this problem. They should not just take DoD’s word for it that the problems have been fixed by this program restructuring.

When historically has congress breathing down the neck of a company resulted in lower prices? Too much attempt at “restructuring” will simply hurt the program, badly…

— “This is a fifth-​​generation fighter/​attack capability. There are no alternatives to that in our system. Yes, you can build the 4.5 generation, enhanced capability F-​​15 kind of capability. But, really there are no good alternatives to F-​​35 at this point. This is a program to which we are deeply committed,” —–

Well, I hope breakfast was good. Two really poor statements by one of the top USAF bosses.

First the claim that the F-35 is a “fifth-generation fighter”. It really doesn’t compare to the F-22 in performance or even some 4.5 gens. This statement is nothing more than regurgitating marketing hype. In the history of aviation, the F-35 is a fifth-generation failure. And now that the “affordable” claims on the JSF patch are dead and buried…

The statement that there is no good alternative to the F-35 is a nonsense. There are also alternatives to poor ineffective leadership of people that have been put into positions beyond their capability. We need alternatives to the likes of Donley, Schwartz and Gates. Their poor theories on air power are putting the countries defense posture at risk.

“There are no alternatives to that in our system. Yes, you can build the 4.5 generation, enhanced capability F-15 kind of capability. But, really there are no good alternatives to F-35 at this point. This is a program to which we are deeply committed.”
Well, I hope breakfast was good. Two really poor statements by one of the top USAF bosses.

First the claim that the F-35 is a “fifth-generation fighter”. It really doesn’t compare to the F-22 in performance or even some 4.5 gens. This statement is nothing more than regurgitating marketing hype. In the history of aviation, the F-35 is a fifth-generation failure.

As usual, during this meeting with Donley, the topic of the now flying PAK-FA was completely avoided at all costs.

Being “deeply committed” to a fighter that in essence is already obsolete as an A2A platform, is a sad comment on how out of touch Mr. Gates and his leadership are these days.

Not only is the JSF now totally obsolete as an A2A platform, both the PAK-FA and the Su-35S have huge persistence (large internal fuel loads >25klb and weapons loads) for battlefield interdiction and long range strike as well as ISR and long range interception.

As APA concluded (and advising for some years) the JSF and aircraft of its ilk are now totally irrelevant.

As for the false and misleading claim of the JSF being a 5th Generation Fighter, Robert Gates will be challenged to prove this claim when he has to re-certify the JSF Program of Record, along with those other falsehoods of affordability, survivability, lethality and supportability.

The SecDef will be confronted with trying to explain away such irrefutable facts as those he received in the following:

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-081109–1.htm…

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-191109–1.htm…

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-111109–1.htm…

As for those other falsehoods of affordability, survivability, lethality and supportability, the JSF patch is going to look kind of bare when those have to be removed.

DoD Buzz might consider running a competition to come up with the replacements that better describe the just-so-failed JSF Program.

The JSF hasn’t even finished all its testing and we have people making definitive pronouncements on the jet’s performance just like Lockheed.

great problem for many people (exept military) the generation of one plane.
one plane is in 5th gen when he was furtiv but i’m sure latest radar can catch f-22. like the exercice with rafale when USA will not see spectra system on one furtiv aircraft…(who can say this fighter was really furtiv exept USA? f-22 is designed by old radar reference and f-35 with f-22 design.
this is the problem if you have one 5 gen fighter (furtiv) and one 4+ fighter can see it, that make wrong result.
remember f-22 was equal of the rafale in one dogfight and the rafale was going to have one radar who can see f-22. f-35 was inferior of the f-22 because he was one plane who need f-22 escort or fight in one zone without enemy aircraft.
imagine if partners and potential foreign buyer know that, they don’t will buy that and prefere others plane in one low price

ps: about the rafale, this plane have one prob he don’t was make by USA, f-35 would be similar but in others gen (just more furtiv) and can make vertical landing. in performance f-35<f-22=rafale (f-35<rafale☺)

Who let the APA mafia in? The JSF hasn’t even finished all its testing and we have people making definitive pronouncements on the jet’s performance just like Lockheed.

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