Oil Spill Reveals Coasties Budget Woes

Oil Spill Reveals Coasties Budget Woes

The Coast Guard’s plans to cut 1,100 uniformed personnel in 2011 and reduce some of its missions at a time it must respond to an enormous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico certainly highlight the stark choices Coasties face over the next few years. Meanwhile, the Navy is moving into the littoral and increasing its focus on anti-drug and anti-piracy operations, raising questions about just what the Coastie’s future roles and missions will be. Robbin Laird, a defense consultant who has been working on Coast Guard issues, penned the following commentary about the Coast Guard and its future.

The Coast Guard is being starved of resources just when the catastrophic oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico seems to demonstrate again just how important the service’s expertise is in responding to such events.

The Obama administration is not fully funding for catastrophic spill equipment for the Coast Guard. And with elimination of the Coast Guard’s national strike fleet coordination center at Elizabeth City, North Carolina next year, the nation will lose a vital organization that manages all Coast Guard responses, and is also the key player for inter-agency coordination and leadership of scores of state and local, commercial and NGO responders.


Those groups play vital roles in preventing and responding to spills. Success requires the authorities possessed by the Coast Guard, highly competent people to run it and adequate equipment. The Coast Guard is the only maritime organization that can do these jobs on the vital waterways of our country and it does not have enough assets to do the job in the Gulf of Mexico, where a BP oil rig exploded last week, killing 11 and creating an enormous oil spill that threatens the Gulf Coast.

As a senior Coast Guard official commented in a New Orleans interview 10 days before the explosion that “we have not enough inspectors and inadequate numbers of ships and helos to secure the emerging deep water oil enterprise being built off of the Gulf Coast. This enterprise will be further and deeper than the current offshore oil drilling. These facilitates will not only drill oil, but will process oil at sea. We must go further than we normally do to regulate and work with the private sector in this area.”

The Coast Guard has worked within its limits to deal with the crisis. The Department of Homeland Security’s leadership has not responded to the crisis by trying to get the USCG more deployed assets. Instead, the Administration has deployed Navy assets and has scurried to find private inspectors they can hire on a temporary basis to deal with the crisis.

Does this presage a new focus for the Navy and the curtailing of the Coast Guard’s traditional role? Senior Navy officials have been emphasizing over the past few months their enhanced role in littoral operations. As one senior Admiral commented, “We see irregular warfare as subsuming a wide range of normal littoral activities for the USN, including fisheries issues, illegal immigration, and environmental degradation.”

And a senior official involved with the LCS acquisition has noted that, “we see LCS as the spearhead of a whole range of expanding USN activities. As we shift from dealing with high-end operations as the norm to a more balanced view of our operations, littoral presence over the spectrum of low end operations will become increasingly important to us, and with this operation greater cooperation with global maritime authorities and coast guards.”

All this comes when the Navy is scrambling for adequate resources to play the “away game”. Wouldn’t it make more sense to fully source the Coast Guard to play these “home games” where they have highly developed skills complemented by a broad range of authorities that are not available to Pentagon organizations? Further, the Coast Guard has developed working agreements and relationships with scores of other organizations that are needed for success. DOD agencies lack the authorities and years of experience to engender the vital partnerships.

All of this could mean that the Navy will expand significantly into the traditional USCG issue areas, and with this expansion curtail any effort to expand Coast Guard acquisition dollars.

Robbin Laird is an international defense consultant and co-founder of http://​www​.sldinfo​.com, which focuses on logistics, sustainment and concepts of operations, and has significant coverage of the Coast Guard.

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For information purposes, if you read the Coasties new budget the 1,100 cut in personnel is associated with the mid-sized patrol boats they are going to tie up than any cut in other mission areas. So, as the article points out, there is a real need in some of these areas, but it is not part of the budget being cut. It is an area where more resources (people and money) need to be dedicated to keep our home game active.

As the pie shrinks all the services are fighting for a bigger slice. The navy’s siren song of “we can do anything (just really badly)” is setting the trend — Rather then invest in specific capabilities for real world needs the trend is for diminished capabilities at increasing costs. All the time chanting the mantra “we can do anything and nothing well”.

The President and Congress have both decided that “free” health care is far more important than a properly equipped and manned Coast Guard!!! So, that’s where the money will go! The consequences be damned!

DHS, the largest organization in the US, is a bad idea. Coast Guard should go back to the Commerce Dept..

“free” health care — You mean the kind government workers get? The problem is the huge expansion of the US government under the Bush II admin. Obama care is really an attempt to transfer wealth from the government sector back to the private sector. A better solution would be productivity gains or outsourcing, but that seems impossible in the US medical area.

We need to get rid of the Big Imposter in the White House and all his cronies to stop the ruination of our Armed Forces. He’ll give the key to the Arsenal to our enemies, what a SAP. Bigger SAPS are those who voted for him as they are helping to roll out the red carpet to our everyone who wants to hurt us.

Prior to DHS it was with the Department of Transportation

I voted for obama, and am a coastie…sounds like you’re just misinformed

I think that civilians should the get the same health care that military members do. i mean, they are who we defend, right?

I don’t trhink I’m a sap because I voted for the President. Rather, I think I exercised my free choice too vote. As the smallest “military” service, the CG is always underfunded & over-tasked. I know, I served for 30 years. However, Coasties will always serve with honor, move out smartly, and get the job done.

It is unfair to blame the new administration when the woes of the multi billion dollar blunder of Deep Water have far and wide implications many years after the inquisition and I voted for McCain.

“Military” You don’t think that we are military?!

“Military” You don’t think that we are military?!

The biggest difference between the Coast Guard and Navy is that the Coast Guard is a law enforcement agency and thus can do immigration interdiction, drug busts, and inspect vessels. The Constitution prohibits the Navy from law enforcement actions. Giving the Navy the roles means changing the Constitution.

The Coast Guard survived the previous rounds of budget cuts because the Comdt had the cojones to stand up to the administration and let them know exactly what the budget cuts meant to the organization. As I remember it, the plan was to cut jobs and eliminate large units in some of the strongest congressional districts. When the legislators realized that their actions would cost them dearly in the political game, they somehow found the money that the Coast Guard needed before it cost them their jobs in Congress. Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening today.

The Coast Guard survived the previous rounds of budget cuts because the Comdt had the cojones to stand up to the administration and let them know exactly what the budget cuts meant to the organization. As I remember it, the plan was to cut jobs and eliminate large units in some of the strongest congressional districts. When the legislators realized that their actions would cost them dearly in the political game, they somehow found the money that the Coast Guard needed before it cost them their jobs in Congress. Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening today.

The Coast Guard survived the previous rounds of budget cuts because the Comdt had the cojones to stand up to the administration and let them know exactly what the budget cuts meant to the organization. As I remember it, the plan was to cut jobs and eliminate large units in some of the strongest congressional districts. When the legislators realized that their actions would cost them dearly in the political game, they somehow found the money that the Coast Guard needed before it cost them their jobs in Congress. Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening today.

I voted for obama, and am a coastie…sounds like you’re just misinformed

I’ve been in the USCG for 9 years and we seem to keep getting tasked to do more and go more places. But yet the government keeps cutting our funding. We as Coasties are Military and always will be. I welcome any other branch to come in and see what we do with so little. We are here to help those in need when accidents or emergency happens in the rivers to the high seas. I bet the next small boat or fishing vessel that over turns and needs emergency help, wont be happy when we can’t go help because have no money or the personnel to get to them.

The problem with the Coast Guard“s budget is that it has never been under the defense department (except when transfered to the Navy in the time of declared war) and I therefore believe it is never really treated as a true military organization. It is important to remember that so long as it remains in the hands of those who do not understand the roles the Coast Guard serves it will always be the red headed step child.

The person written this is badly informed. This is not a federal incident as far as i checked so there for we have no control over the incident except advice on the clean up. As far as budge cuts, when has the Government, DOD or even public respect Coast Guard. We have more task but less money then any branch of service. Respect is what we never get but we still do our job with pride. This article has nothing to do with our Leader but whether the respect for one another in the military.

I was in the CG in the 60’s and now I am in the CG Auxiliary doing the same job I did in the 60’s. Search and rescue, as there aren’t enough smallboats stations to go around.

I was in the CG in the 60’s and now I am in the CG Auxiliary doing the same job I did in the 60’s. Search and rescue, as there aren’t enough smallboats stations to go around.

The Coast guard was never a part of the Dept of Commerce.

Maybe You’re the one thar’s misinformed.

I served in the Coast Guard as a Public Affairs Specialist. Our government is quick to call upon us in an emergency and yet keeps cutting our budget so we cannot do our job, therefore looking bad in the public eye. Thbis oil spill has proven that the USCG budget cuts has caused this disaster to be worse than itg could have been. Remember, the Coast Guard is part of our homeland defense, we are the smallest service with the biggest responsibilities. If we are to keep our coast and land free, we need the Coast Guard to full capacity and our resources to do our job. We fight the “wars” everyday on our own soul, not just on foreign soil.

“Free” health care for Government workers? Active duty military personnel have “free” health care while on ACTIVE DUTY (and in my opinion they earn it) & legislators in Congress may have “free” healthcare for life (questionable whether the earn it … but they make the rules) but your typical Federal Employee has employee contributions for their health care just like most workers do . It’s competitive, but not the great deal most people think it is. I am a civilian Federal Employee working for the U.S. Coast Guard, and I recently dropped my health care plan when my wife went back to work as the family plan offered thru her employer was significantly less than what I could get as a Federal Employee.

I’m been in the Coast Guard for 9.5 years and I agree 100% with USCG’s and excoastie03’s statement.

being in the guard for 22 years had taught me that when the country gets in money troubles start picking on the military, they can handle it! who ever is in charge of letting the navy do more, is just being a supporter of the navy, we need to look back on how much the coast guard has done for this country and how much it cost this greatful nation of ours, as i have the experience of it, the government is long on want short on paying, the coast guard has always been the best investment this country could ever make, each day we went to do a job no one cared about till they needed us, now they do and these burocrats need to call them in and let them do the job they were given many moons ago

SK3, Any person who votes for someone just to help make “history” is not doing their duty as a citizen. A citizen has a responsibility to vote for what they believe is the best person for the job at hand, not the color of their skin. If Condolezza Rice had run I would have voted for her because she would be a person who could do the best for the country. I was in the USCG from 1980 to 1989 and my last unit just killed me. 100hr weeks, few days off, etc… and one of the biggest regrets I have is I did not stick it out. The entire time I was in the Coast Guard it was always a budget battle and it will always be a budget battle for the Coast Guard. We didn’t call it Uncle Sam’s Confused Group for nothing. LOL

i agree. we live and we learn.. dumb on my part to vote for the reason i did..

Twenty five years in this organization have taught me one thing… we always seem to be at our best when we have the least on-hand to deal with a situation. We operate with what we have and couple that with innovative thinking and gut it out. It’s a badge of honor! We will continue to be this way, and I hope we never change. It’s because of these dwindling budgets that we operate like we do. When all is said and done, our nation is very grateful for the job we do.

A bitching sailor is a happy sailor… just remember that as we face serious issues as a nation. Our financial future in this country is more daunting than the current oil spill in the gulf. If we are going to survive as a nation, then tough budgetary decisions will have to be made. What does that mean for the Coast Guard? We can expect to do significantly more with considerably less money. We need to accept that fact as our reality and reflect upon our current practices as OJT for the bigger cuts to come.
Hang in there crew! Remember that our life in the CG is like a voyage on the sea. The scenery changes with the tides, but we always look to each other for the encouragement needed to get the mission done. Our current administration or the economy or events in other parts of the world are just scenery. We are Semper Paratus for one reason alone… we have the right attitude and we will succeed.
CWO Michael Wills

Just another classic shortcoming buy our political leaders. The CG has always been the stepchild and operated on a short budget. Yet when we have a major disaster, the CG is always asked to come to the rescue. When The Dept. of Homeland Security was instituted, it looked like the tide had finaly turned.……not! We still have not figured out that our waters and our coastal boarders are the most important.

The budget cuts are also effecting homeland security. 5 Maritime Safety and Security Teams are also being decommissioned. those are the teams that were stood up right after 9–11. And now we just had an attempted bombing in New York

Perhaps you should have looked into the history of Democrat Party Black-run cities in this country before casting your vote “to see a Black man as our President”. A stellar example would be the Black administration in Birmingham AL over the last 10–20 years. The question is each day is “who will be indicted, or sentenced today in State or Federal Court?”.
The US Coast Guard provides a necessary, and obligatory, service to this country and its citizens and deserves our full support both in monetary allowances and speeches.
USCG, 1967–1971.

So, what is new about kicking the Coast Guard AGAIN? One important question, given the leadership, lack of manufacturing, under educated Americans, IF we got into a war do we have the will and means to win, (remember we are broke) Lets see Viet Nam– the White House tried to run it and failed, Grenada– our Army had to use a calling card to get artillery support, present Iraq they are waiting for us to leave so the religious war can restart, Afghanistan– no country has been successful in stopping the fighting EVER. Our military depends on foreign made weapons and equipment. The general public has been dumbed down to depend on the government to take care of them. Remember when Khrushchev told America they will take us over without firing a shot? Our political climate seems to be aiding that trend. Regan built up a strong military only to have his successor dismantle it. ASK YOURSELF when will we wake up and make this country strong and independent again. The United States Coast Guard can and always has done everything with nothing being the redheaded stepchild, kicked from one agency to another. I say make it independent, fund it to the max and place the Commandant on the JCoS. We have clear missions, just let us do them. One last comment. The Exxon Valdez was mainly caused by Congress saying the CG did not need an improved Vessel Traffic radar system, because there was no statics to warrant the expense. Had the requested system been in place the ship would have still been tracked and quite possibly have been told of their being off course? WAKE UP AMERICANS!

Well, said and right on. No one, outside our service (USCG) seems to be aware of the CG law enforcement role, i.e. International law and boarding rights — Navy vessels, unless under the Coast Guard flag, cannot stop or otherwise challenge a foreign vessel for inspection or for suspected violations of our Maritime laws while transiting through the seas above our continental shelf without being accused of “an act of aggression” which could develope into an iunwanted international incident. A Sea Service without Maritime Law Enforcement authority such as the U.S. Navy cannot empose/violate or otherwise detain the free passage of International Maritime commerce above the Continental shelf of the USA. One of the original purposes of many assigned to the U.S. Coast Guard.
Semper Paratus. R. Berry, CWO4 30yr Retired ’79
the Continental waters of the USA.

We need the Coast Guard to stabalize the coastal waters. I think instead of going to the “Commerce Department” ( The USCG were in the Dept. of Transportation), that they should be instead moved to the DoD. The USCG is the longest standing American Naval military branch. Don’t forget that…

Indeed. I am too.

“Free” health care? I don’t know where you get you information, but you are GROSSLY misinformed. I am also a USCG civilian, and my spouse is a senior USCG officer. Government employees do pay for health care, just like any other employee of a company that has a health care program. As a dependant, I chose to use the Tricare system. While this is a “free” system that any active duty personnel and their immediate families have earned as part of their voluntary service to their country, let me tell you that its not the best care available. Everyone is assigned a care provider, but you see whomever is in that day. In today’s society where no one want to actually work for anything, take responsibility for their actions, and believes that the Government should just take care of everything need to wake the h*ll up and get back to the grounds on which this country was founded; hard work, limited Government, well funded armed services, discipline, a Christian religious base, and accepting responsibility for your actions. Be careful of what you ask for, you just may get it. Have a great day.

I have been in Coast Guard service for 25 years. I remember the late 80’s/early 90’s when things where so tight we were disassembling 2 broken radios to make an operational one because of “budget cuts”…we survived and we will survive this. The problem is warfare has changed. And the Navy is scared that there will be no place for it in the “New World Order”, so they have decided to tread into the arena of the USCG. Remember, there are things we can do that the Navy WILL never be able to do. International Law prevents it. Also remember when Russia invaded Georgia.….who did they send in for officer presence; The US Coast Guard Cutter Dallas. Why? Because it sent a message that we knew they were there, with out being so threatening that Russia felt we committed any act toward wanting a war with them. The Navy and the Coast Guard will co-exist, we just need to learn there is a place for both of us.

I’m surprised you would admit to that!

JimR, it was 15 million and the Chase, Hamilton, Rush and Jarvis are in far worse condition than the Dallas and Gallatin. we can only put a bandaid on the bleeding until the WMSLs come online.

yes it was! and better fonded while it was.

I wish that we all could get along! Unfortunaltly that is not going to happen any time soon, so off to stirring the pot.…..The latest round of budget cuts is hitting all of the services, but none like the USCG because of its size. the smaller the service the larger the impact. This happened in the early 90’s too, but the USCG stood firm and recovered to be what it is today. YES the US Coast Guard is a “Military” organization.…we have been involved in every war time mission the US has ever been in. We send our sailors out to war with the same concerns as other branches. GOD Bless the US Armed forces and GOD Bless the US Coast Guard! America Rocks! US Armed services active duty 14yrs strong!!!!

This is 100% true in order for DOD assets to conduct a law enforcement operation (illegal aliens– migrant interdiction, illegal drug smuggling or even fisheries as it states in the article, a Coast Guard boarding team flying a Coast Guard Ensign would have to be onboard the Navy ship and be the actual people conducting the operation. Why not spend some of that large budget the Navy has on just a few assets that the Coast Guard could use themselves to compelte the job the way they have been doing for the past 220 years.

LOL, You sure they didnt send the Dallas in for comic relief?

When I was in the Houligan Navy, it was Department of Treasury

Stop electing LAWYERS to represent us; oops, I mean special interests.

im not political at all.. and i dont usually get into topics of this nature.. but i cant help it.. ive only been in the CG for 6 yrs.. the one thing ive noticed is that this country generally doenst give a flying about the CG until something happens.. then they wanna cry and call us in to help..I am an SK3 and i have definitely seen our $$ get cut again and again. i am no Comptroller or Budget Officer, but ive sat in each units office and seen higher up’s complain about the money issues.. Obama is a Democrat.. that should say enough about how he cares for the military.. we received the lowest raise ever from him.. he cut our budget .… And still expects us to do what we been doing.. with less Members and less money.. he can Fcuk off as far as im concerned.. I (like many others) voted for him for 1 simple fact , i wanted to see a black man as our president.. little did i know, i had sacrificed my CG’s future for history.. biggest regret of my life thus far…

We the unwilling, led by the unknowing, have been doing so much with so little for so long, that we are now able to everything with nothing.

FTCS (retired)

WRONG. I’m a civilian federal employee working for the USCG. I have a skillset that the USCG does not have in its inventory. I pay for my own health care from one of the government offered programs –Blue Cross Blue Shield. I’m no young chicken.

A recent mammogram screening caught CANCER, which led to oncology specialists and chemotherapy within 30 days.

My life is important to me & it’s my money to spend — not yours. For you to tell ME how I can live is rediculous. As a Guardian…I see you have bought into the government mindset that you are all knowing and superior to all other americans…let’s just say I don’t need or want you to help me.

Right on. I said the same.

It’s not in the Constitution, but rather in “international law”. Maritime Treaties dating back 200+ years prevent a nations navy from forcibly boarding a vessel “flagged” in another country. Only in a state of war can this be done, otherwise it’s an act of war in and of itself if the Navy boards a foreign flagged vessel. Foreign flagged means that vessel is the “sovereign” territory of the nation it is flagged under. The Coast Guard can only become part of the Navy in time of war or when directed by the President. The Coast Guard acts as our Maritime Border Patrol but also as a Military Force at all times. This dual role allows the Coast Guard to conduct boardings at sea on vessels flagged in another country. Again, due to the treaties that allow for our Coast Guard, as well as other Coast Guard’s, or Coastal Patrols around the globe.

I am also disturbed by the cutbacks, including maritime security resources. At a time when national security is such an issue with terrorist organizations that can target oil rigs at sea or containers in a ship yard our needs are greater than ever. No service except the CG has the historical and current ability to focus on these issues as it relates to safety at sea and our ports as well as the Coast Guard. The Navy has to spend a great deal of time training and preparing for combat demands on foreign shores and at sea. How could they possibly include the complex issues that the CG deals with without sacrificing their world wide superiority at sea and the nation’s position as a world power. Few really understand what it takes to run the Coast Guard, not only equipment and personnel but also the special training that provides the knowledge to deal with non military clients in maritime issues. Someone needs to get this right, it really doesn’t matter what department the CG falls under. It needs priority funding separate from having to share with agencies that check bags at airports or cover border patrols or other jobs that are totally different. I am sure the Navy is pushing these issues as they try to take on a bigger piece of the pie to justify their budget demands but come on, when did the Navy ever want to take care of navigation buoys or supervise the activities around an oil spill as a first responder?

For many years after WW II, the Coast Guard operated with a fleet of USN cast-offs. We were the Red-Headed Step CHILDREN (RSC). Our budgets reflected this as we were booted around from one parent agency to another. Noone has ever questioned the Coast Guard’s expertise or dedication to the mission.
It will take years for the USN to come up to the level of expertise and proficiency of the RSC in our mission fields.

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The USCG served in all the wars at home and abroad. Where was the Navy when the Coast Guard was saving thousand of lives in New Orleans during hurricane?

At great risk this famous quote says it all: “Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.
Winston Churchill”

The US Senators advocating reducing the USCG mission to save money should be reducing our forces in Afghanistan and Iraq and let them take care of their own business. Better still maybe they should serve with the USCG to get the real picture of how our country is being saved with important mission during peace and war times

Sorry, but you are a jerk and jealous. If you had had the guts to serve your country you, too, could be better off; maybe not financially, but you might have pride in yourself and your country, and peace of mind.

very well said..

Huh??? DOD / USCG pay scales are the same. What are you talking about? An E-5 get E-5 pay, Navy, Army, Coast Guard, Air Force or Marine. An E-5 today will max out (12 plus years of service) at around @35k/yr, teachers average morehttp://​www​.payscale​.com/​r​e​s​e​a​r​c​h​/​U​S​/​A​l​l​_​K​-​1​2​_​T​eac…

Please explain how you figure E-5s are paid more?

Huh??? DOD / USCG pay scales are the same. What are you talking about? An E-5 get E-5 pay, Navy, Army, Coast Guard, Air Force or Marine. An E-5 today will max out (12 plus years of service) at around @35k/yr, teachers average morehttp://​www​.payscale​.com/​r​e​s​e​a​r​c​h​/​U​S​/​A​l​l​_​K​-​1​2​_​T​eac…

Please explain how you figure E-5s are paid more?

If the USA has “declared war” with terrorism, why hasn’t the Coast Guard been put under the Navy’s operational control? We just spent over $10 million to keep 2–42 year old cutters running (Dallas and Gallatin for 2) that should have been retired years ago. I’m sure the Navy has a few decommissioned ships the CG could put to good use.
So what’s holding up the transfer?? .… or has anyone asked??

SK3, Any person who votes for someone just to help make “history” is not doing their duty as a citizen. A citizen has a responsibility to vote for what they believe is the best person for the job at hand, not the color of their skin. If Condolezza Rice had run I would have voted for her because she would be a person who could do the best for the country. I was in the USCG from 1980 to 1989 and my last unit just killed me. 100hr weeks, few days off, etc… and one of the biggest regrets I have is I did not stick it out. The entire time I was in the Coast Guard it was always a budget battle and it will always be a budget battle for the Coast Guard. We didn’t call it Uncle Sam’s Confused Group for nothing. LOL

Good for you. Thanks for speaking up.

It’s not in the Constitution, but rather in “international law”. Maritime Treaties dating back 200+ years prevent a nations navy from forcibly boarding a vessel “flagged” in another country. Only in a state of war can this be done, otherwise it’s an act of war in and of itself if the Navy boards a foreign flagged vessel. Foreign flagged means that vessel is the “sovereign” territory of the nation it is flagged under. The Coast Guard can only become part of the Navy in time of war or when directed by the President. The Coast Guard acts as our Maritime Border Patrol but also as a Military Force at all times. This dual role allows the Coast Guard to conduct boardings at sea on vessels flagged in another country. Again, due to the treaties that allow for our Coast Guard, as well as other Coast Guard’s, or Coastal Patrols around the globe.

I was in the Coast Guard for 32 Years and during those years there was possibly 5 years when we didn’t have a budget crisis!

If the CG goes to DoD, the Posse Comitatus Act or 1878 will prohibit the CG from performing its domestic law enforcement functions. The CG cannot be under DoD.

The CG has alway known the bite of cutbacks. I know we all have foraged for scraps from the DoD trash can (DRMO). Its hard to live by our moto, Semper Paratus, when there is no funding to be Ready.…but we still have managed to do so.

JAY
Please explain to me that when I was am E-5 with one child I qualified for WIC because my Base pay, BOQ and BAS did now rise above the poverty level? In additon…never heard of a teacher having to work all hours of the day and night for the same wage (not in there contract) nor is their life in danger while preforming their job.

What Planet are you from? People in the real world are getting fired and giving up pay and benefits because they are a greedy bunch, expecting more every year. I was just looking at my SSS statement, the most I made was $4,500.00 on my first enlistment. I don’t think this is more than what a teacher with a PG degree makes a year, maybe a month. Also, if the military is getting paid so well with a gold plated retirement system, WHY DIDN’T YOU SERVE YOUR COUNTRY OR WHY DIDN’T YOU STAY IN THE MILITARY?????

As I recall the Commandant USCG is a Chaplin? I would much prefer a Line Officer in the position. Yes I was in through some very rough times for the CG but this National leadership was and is a major mistake for our country and the safety of the World as well. I loved and still love the USCG but can not suggest it to any young people who ask me about joining. We need the CG to be under it’s own Department free of Treasury, Commerce, Transportation abd DOD. We do not benefit from being under HMS either.

If you want the same health care as our service members then YOU should have joined!!! We would like the same pay as our cilivians but instead we decided to give up that choice when we joined the military to defend YOU!!!

Didn’t that temporary resident of the White House once say “Yes We Can”? Now as he reads yet another speech he says “Yes You Will-… Or Elsel” Send him back where he came from…

Here we go again with the dismantling of America’s defences. Destruction of capitalism, nationalization of America’s largest corporations, defunding our military.…. I was concerned what a socialist could do to this country in four years. See what he has done in just 15 months. God help us!

When a disaster strikes the Coasties get going and do what needs to be done while the rest are battling red
tape. Who gets there first with helos or cutters and men and women willing to put themselves on the line for
the well being of our citizens? USCG!

on the contrary: I have “first hand” information that it is in fact personnel and not just “extra boats”…creating issues such as less personnel to cover larger areas’ civilian emergencies during high use seasons

Whether they make their cuts in the mid-size patrol boats’ personnel (who can and will bump out other personnel if they have the rank)- the math is still there: less people is less people-period.

I served in the USAF in the 70’s when they were cutting back personnel ‘right and left’ and the budjet cuts then rattled our effectivness all the way into the late 80’s.

Final note — in these days of uncertainty– shouldn’t we be worried about ALL of our borders (including the coastlines)?

This is a poorly written article with a lot of opinion and not a lot of fact. I guess that’s why it’s called a commentary because that’s exactly what it is — alot of comments and not much else. I’m not going to waste my time debating the opinions with the facts I have on hand (I am in the Coast Guard, I work at CGHQ, and have much more first-hand knowledge of budget and personnel cuts being considered). The Navy has a very different role than us, both legally and by mission definition, and what is an LCS? Good writers should always spell out acronyms when using them the first time. Another sign this is a poorly written article with little fact, comparison of apples to oranges, and not much apparent research.

Before you start making degrading remarks of the President step back and take a look at yourself and those you may have voted for in the past. If you cannot find anything positive to say about the President , country or the Congressional government you voted for move elsewhere and then you will have access to the Arsenal since you are sounding like the enemy.

amen!

I am also disturbed by the cutbacks, including maritime security resources. At a time when national security is such an issue with terrorist organizations that can target oil rigs at sea or containers in a ship yard our needs are greater than ever. No service except the CG has the historical and current ability to focus on these issues as it relates to safety at sea and our ports as well as the Coast Guard. The Navy has to spend a great deal of time training and preparing for combat demands on foreign shores and at sea. How could they possibly include the complex issues that the CG deals with without sacrificing their world wide superiority at sea and the nation’s position as a world power. Few really understand what it takes to run the Coast Guard, not only equipment and personnel but also the special training that provides the knowledge to deal with non military clients in maritime issues. Someone needs to get this right, it really doesn’t matter what department the CG falls under. It needs priority funding separate from having to share with agencies that check bags at airports or cover border patrols or other jobs that are totally different. I am sure the Navy is pushing these issues as they try to take on a bigger piece of the pie to justify their budget demands but come on, when did the Navy ever want to take care of navigation buoys or supervise the activities around an oil spill as a first responder?

If you are in the USCG, you have a job, you’re being paid and you have a gold plated retirement system. You work in the unquestionably best trained and best preapared Coast Guard in the world. Could it be better? Sure. Is it worth it? Maybe. But remember, people in the real world are being fired and giving up pay and benefits. E5s are paid better than teachers with postgraduate degrees. Study the USCG budget and you’ll see the dollars spent on paying personnel is way out of whack with world or even DOD standards. Most of the world conducts Coast Guard missions with far, far fewer personnel at their stations, on their similar ships…and especially in their District and HQ offices.

If you are in the USCG, you have a job, you’re being paid and you have a gold plated retirement system. You work in the unquestionably best trained and best preapared Coast Guard in the world. Could it be better? Sure. Is it worth it? Maybe. But remember, people in the real world are being fired and giving up pay and benefits. E5s are paid better than teachers with postgraduate degrees. Study the USCG budget and you’ll see the dollars spent on paying personnel is way out of whack with world or even DOD standards. Most of the world conducts Coast Guard missions with far, far fewer personnel at their stations, on their similar ships…and especially in their District and HQ offices.

First off, you voted for a Socialist Muslim Marxist! Get it straight and everything he does points to it. I served nearly 39 years both reserve and active and during that time the CG never got it right. They didn’t know their a.. from a hole in the ground and still don’t! Both of my sons are in the CG. My oldest a reservist in San Diego and our youngest a helo pilot. I love the CG and wish I was still in, but the leadership was always in question. They never seemed to know what they should do. Deep Water (deep shi.) is just one example. Why didn’t they just take a Navy vessel off the shelf and modify to CG needs. No, they had to waste a lot of $$$ and never got anything out of it. The same with the HH65 and many cutters that are worthless. Maybe Papp will make a change. I thought the former commandant was a political hack and the present one, soon to retire, would change things but he also became a political hack. The only thing that saved the CG was President Bush. He gave more $$$ and authority to the CG than anyone else since Hamilton, whether you like Bush or not.

I come from a long line ‚who served in the Coast Guard.proudly and dedicatedly.I personally,take this action as an insult During all times of threats and wars,the Navy d id its part and more but unknown and certainly un acknowledged „ the Coast Guard did as much and more, which the Navy received the credit.Ex: In wartime The coast Guard was transferred to Navy control,because,there were many jobs The Coast Guard were better trained to do . During world war II ‚on a. Percentage basis there was more Coast GuardThe recruiting poster of th e sailor hanging over the 20mm gun was the dedicated Coast Guardsman doing his job and making the ultimate sacrifice of giving his life so that others,then and in the future would be free I am extrremely proud of my families and my own service in US Coast Guard and all the vets who served their country in every capacity . Semper Paratus RW hall

I don’t mind cuts if it is for the betterment of the nation. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL WHY DEPT. of HOMELAND SECURITY IS GROWING? That is correct. DHS is “Hiring More Administrators” while cutting personnel in the Coast Guard! So while the “Get r Done” people are cut, the Administrators grow? WHY?

I don’t mind cuts if it is for the betterment of the nation. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL WHY DEPT. of HOMELAND SECURITY IS GROWING? That is correct. DHS is “Hiring More Administrators” while cutting personnel in the Coast Guard! So while the “Get r Done” people are cut, the Administrators grow? WHY?

Excluding Admiral/Commandant Allen, Coast Guard Flag Officers are inexperienced and incompetent. I am disgraced to see CG Admirals and Captains giving briefings on the Gulf Coast Oil spill when they do not even have a Cuttermans Pin. What a joke! That means that they weaseled their way out of sea duty-and the CG let them. CG leadership is telling the world that sea duty is not important. The Navy knows this-Chairman of The Joint Chiefs-Admiral Mullen. The Navy will take over the CG and leave a small contingent of Coasties as TACLETS to accomadate the Possee Comitatis Act. CG leaders brought this on themselves, Deep Water, Ruining the 110′ Patrol Boats, Senior Officer blunders and mis deeds, etc. I am a former Coastie and it hurts me to say this but it is reality.

Back when the coast Guard was placed under the Department of Transportation rescue boats and general patrol was not conducted except on an emaergency basis. There just was not money to operate the boats. I guess Obama is going to do the same…

Rember back in 1965–66– Viet Nam The navy did not have the boats or people trained to secure the coast and waterways. Thats why they borrowed our patrol boats and crews and gave us almost no support

All the info on this report is a good read, but it can do nothing to fix the problems we all face,
money has become a hot subject, just like it was in Viet Nam in the 60 I can remember when
we were not even getting a pay check because of the Gov. not able to fix the problem, we had
old ships then but with a little work we kept then running, it was a all hands project and it still
is,on Life Boat stations we took lots of chances but we lived and died by the the oath we took, to
help no mater the weather and the pay if you were in then you lived by that oath Semper Paratus
you have to go out but you don’t have to come in.
As one fellow stated lets just get along and do the best job we can do with the pay we get.
JRH

Barak is a lying community organizer, whose motto of Yes We Can, was a cover of Yes We Can.…give everything to a bunch of lazy, worthless, bums, and destroy everything that our forefathers worked so hard to do, so we can sit around on our asses all day. There just was not enough room on the bumper sticker, so PR decided to leave that last bit off.
I was in the CG for 5 years. I had a bunch of people I knew in the Navy, and they would be amazed at what we used to have to accomplish, but at the speed in which it was done amazed them even more. They couldn’t believe that I was stationed on Cutters that were older then their Master Chiefs! I worked on one of the last Seagoing Buoy Tenders, built in 1944 I think, and decommissioned in 2003. I mean, the Navy gets upset if they have to keep a ship running for more then 20 years. They need to split the difference, and give each service a 30 year service period for the vessels. The Navy needs to be held accountable for such issues as the DDX program. The Navy needs to cut their Desert Duck Soldiers and many other programs like drug interdiction and immigration. The Army can’t even get enough money for bullet proof vests! The Navy, is a waste of money in my opinion. They have replaced so many vessels in the last 20 years, and have not done much significant since Vietnam. The law needs to be changed to not place the Coast Guard into the Navy during times of war (as well as the Marines need to be their own Service). The Coast Guard needs a seat on the Joint Chiefs of Staff( I mean the Marines are just a department of the Navy, and they have had a Joint Chief of Staff, although, they are the Men’s Department). They needd a 4 star Admiral for each one of the Area, as well as in charge of the Districts. They need properly made vessels for their job duties, not navy rejects that were designed to do a different job then the CG’s. They need full a full SpecOps recognized program, instead of cutting DOG and it’s programs. I have a buddy who is a Marine in Air Crew stuff, he had some Air Force personnel come to do some training with him. They stayed in the Marine’s brand new barracks, and they got substandard living allowance. Tell me that the services are misrepresented in the budget for the jobs they do. Army, Marines and Coast Guard are all we need. The Navy, is, and always has been useless. They have bickered over their mission with the Coast Guard for a long time. When we had no standing military, and there was no Navy, the officers who worked for the US Revenue Cutter Service(predecessor to the USCG), they would wear their Navy Uniforms!?! While there was no standing Navy!?! They have never had any respect or decorum.
Really though, all this ranting and raving, I have done my share now, will change nothing. People don’t vote with their hearts and minds, they vote with their wallet. Whom ever promises to give them something for nothing is who gets the vote, or whom ever will make history for being the first black President! What is a shame, is this freaking joker has ruined it for a long time to come for any other black person who might actually have been able to do the job. What a schmuck.

This is a poorly written article with a lot of opinion and not a lot of fact. I guess that’s why it’s called a commentary because that’s exactly what it is — alot of comments and not much else. I’m not going to waste my time debating the opinions with the facts I have on hand (I am in the Coast Guard, I work at CGHQ, and have much more first-hand knowledge of budget and personnel cuts being considered). The Navy has a very different role than us, both legally and by mission definition, and what is an LCS? Good writers should always spell out acronyms when using them the first time. Another sign this is a poorly written article with little fact, comparison of apples to oranges, and not much apparent research.

President Barack Obama was voted in by a majority of America through a democratic process that is the corner stone of this country. If you don’t like it, buy advertising space, become a lobbyist, or get on the ballot as a candidate and run against him in the 2012 election. Another possible way to go could be try coming up with better ideas on how to fix the things you are bitching about and send the plans to your state and/or federal representatives so that they can implement your ideas. Stop making noise, Rush, and start making progress. This nation was built by men of action, not bullshitters. End of transmission.

President Barack Obama was voted in by a majority of America through a democratic process that is the corner stone of this country. If you don’t like it, buy advertising space, become a lobbyist, or get on the ballot as a candidate and run against him in the 2012 election. Another possible way to go could be try coming up with better ideas on how to fix the things you are bitching about and send the plans to your state and/or federal representatives so that they can implement your ideas. Stop making noise, Rush, and start making progress. This nation was built by men of action, not bullshitters. End of transmission.

This is a really on-point comment that everyone has forgotten — or swept under the table for the sake of political relationships. While Deep Water was ultimately managed by CG, I would really like to know what consequences Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman face as the contracted expertise and oversight of the project and what budget gaps exist as a result???

WE ALL NEED MOOOOOOAAAAAAAARRRRRR MMMOOOOONNNNEEEYYYY!!!!!

When I first joined in 1967 my first engineroom chief told me to remember that “We (Coast Guard) have done so much, for so long, with so little. We can do anything, with nothing forever.” I found that so true in my over 30 year career.

The Coast Guard always takes a bad rap but who turned things around in New Orleans after the big storm?

Or maybe the senators that are “serving the people” Should have the same pay scale.

Retired CWO ’84. Some things have changed , the mission is the same. Law Enforcement — drug interdiction (keep drugs from entering the USA), fisheries patrol (foreigh vessels fishing in USA waters, US fishing complies with laws), enforcing other maritime US laws (this covers a lot of ground), Caption of the Port — maritime vessel laws and safety regulations, all US water navigation — marking channels for safe ship operations, buoys — day boards — everything used to get any vessel — US or anyone else in and out of port and up and down rivers, ice breaking duty in the northers ice frozen waters. Did I say vessel safety inspections. Not to leave out one of the most important, Search and Rescue — Saving Lives!!! and Property!!!
Aircraft down, ship on fire, oil rig on fire, vessel aground, breaking up — leaking hazards (fuel — chemical),
jumpers off bridges, vessel overdue — millions of hours and $‘s searching millions of square miles to save (hopefully) even ONE life. The list goes on, how much have I failed to mention. Don’t cut the budget, the Coast Guard has alot of unfinished business. I could do more but I’m out of space.

LCS is a Littoral Combat Ship, which means that they operate close to shore, usually hauling Marines with LCACS (Landing Craft). The Navy is prohibited from performing law enforcement duties by the “Posse Comitatus Act” (18USC 1385). The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Act. It is a federal law, not part of the Constitution. That is why CG LEDET teams are required to deploy on Navy vessels.

Excluding Admiral/Commandant Allen, Coast Guard Flag Officers are inexperienced and incompetent. I am disgraced to see CG Admirals and Captains giving briefings on the Gulf Coast Oil spill when they do not even have a Cuttermans Pin. What a joke! That means that they weaseled their way out of sea duty-and the CG let them. CG leadership is telling the world that sea duty is not important. The Navy knows this-Chairman of The Joint Chiefs-Admiral Mullen. The Navy will take over the CG and leave a small contingent of Coasties as TACLETS to accomadate the Possee Comitatis Act. CG leaders brought this on themselves, Deep Water, Ruining the 110′ Patrol Boats, Senior Officer blunders and mis deeds, etc. I am a former Coastie and it hurts me to say this but it is reality.

The article ignores the fact that the Navy representative mispoke; due to Posse Comitatis, the Navy cannot legally perform law enforcement operations such as preventing illegal immigration. That is why America needs the USCG; they’ve performed the law enforcement mission for over 200 years, as well as their other missions. Remember the pirates that were first captured by the USN off of Somalia? It was a joint USN, USMC and USCG (MSST) that captured them. As a former TACLET South Coastie, I trained USN personnel to conduct VBSS boardings because the USN couldn’t do it themselves.

The article ignores the fact that the Navy representative mispoke; due to Posse Comitatis, the Navy cannot legally perform law enforcement operations such as preventing illegal immigration. That is why America needs the USCG; they’ve performed the law enforcement mission for over 200 years, as well as their other missions. Remember the pirates that were first captured by the USN off of Somalia? It was a joint USN, USMC and USCG (MSST) that captured them. As a former TACLET South Coastie, I trained USN personnel to conduct VBSS boardings because the USN couldn’t do it themselves.

I did twenty and always considered it “the real world”. My crews and I put our lives on line several times for citizens and their vessels, stopping illegal migrants, catching drug runners, and standing freaking engine room watches for YEARS. Most Coasties earned their retirement through blood and pain, both emotional and physical, so please don’t belittle what we do. “Most of the world” does not do what we do at the level that we do it.

WTF. What qualifies you to make such a statement? Why do you feel the need to bring dishonor to other Coasties by spewing such disrespectful rhetoric in full view of people outside the organization? You bring shame upon your former brothers and sisters who still wear Blue and still bust their collective asses every day. I just retired Honorably a few months ago to pursue a second career, and yes I had my problems with our organization, but I would never speak negatively about the CG in a public forum! Either show our family that much respect or never admit to having been a member ever again, you would be undeserving to claim such noble company. HONOR, RESPECT, DEVOTION TO DUTY. That still means something to most of us.

Ya never was in the commerce dept.….….…i think you mean Dept of transportation

The Navy. Sounds good. BUT as a sonar man in the Coast Guard we took 18 weeks to complete our schooling, Our counterparts in the Navy six months. They had the latest and the greatest equipment aboard their ships. We had their WWII left overs. (ANSQS11) When my ship went to GITMO to do ASW trials, our little cutter out scored every navy ship participating, I can’t speak for other areas, but this was one indication of how we did more more with less and I was part of it.

MKC, you have no idea what I do for a living now. You state that I should do all these things if I don’t like it. How do you know what I have or have not done? Do you know what I am involved in or participate in? Do you know if I write my congressman or senators? No, you don’t. But I do know this, that Barak HAS lied about everything he said he was going to do. He has not made the government more transparent, and has added more to the federal deficit in his first year and a half then bush did in 8 years.
I do voice my opinion to my Senators and congressmen, I write to them and call. I watch the news, and read history books to get an idea of what is going on. I will continue making noise as you say, well, because quite frankly I can. I want other people to realize what a lying piece of garbage Barak is, what a danger to our country and way of life he is. He has no respect for our country or it’s laws, the Constitution and the freedoms that we fought for. I am so glad I am not still in the Coast Guard, because if I was at a Unit that he visited I might just tell him where to shove it. I hope that someone knows enough about law to impeach the man. He is a disgrace to our country. And he is a danger to all of us. Next election, he will not win. So many people I know who voted for him have already said they made a mistake. He is an amateur and the people know it. The Tea Party is the best thing to happen, not for what they are saying, but that they are making people think, and stand up for themselves.
By the way, I have held a couple of jobs since that did make quite a few contributions to various things and change things. I continue to work now in a field where I am tasked with making decisions and choices that effect people in a large way. I do my part still, my words are backed by action in that I vote, I work, and give my opinion whether it is asked, liked, or not and that it is an educated one, by research in law, history, and future effect. I am not a registered Republican or Democrat, I am registered as No Political Affiliation. You don’t need one if you have an intelligent opinion.

I AM A SEAMEN (E3) AND THE WAY I SEE THIS IS. IT DOESN’T MATTER WHY WE DON’T RECIEVE THE FUNDING OR THAT THE NAVY WANTS TO GET IN ON OUR TURF. WHAT ULTIMATELY MATTERS IS THE PUBLIC’S OUTLOOK ON THE SITUATION AND THE WAY THE MEDIA PRESENTS THIS PROBLEM. MOST OF AMERICANS PROBABLY WOULDN’T EVEN KNOW WHO THE COAST GUARD IS IF IT WEREN’T FOR THE MOVIE THE “GUARDIAN” AND ON TOP OF THAT THE ONES THAT DO THINK WE ARE LIKE A LOCAL POLICE AGENCY NOT EVEN MILITARY. THE COAST GUARD NEEDS TO MARKET THEMSELVES. YEAH SURE BOATERS KNOW AND OTHER SERVICES KNOW BUT WE ARE FORGOTTEN, AND I AM WILLING TO BET THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL TRY THEIR HAND AT GIVING THE NAVY SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND MORE LUCK TO THEM. ONCE THAT HAPPENS, PASS OR FAIL IT WILL BE SWEPT UNDER THE RUG UNTIL ANOTHER DISASTER HAPPENS. I COULD GO ON IF YOU WANT BUT THAT IS JUST HOW I SEE IT. REPLY FOR MORE

Our manufacturing industries have been taken over by China and China does not pay taxes to the USA. So no money is there. Government employees can not support government jobs alone.

Why should people that don’t serve get the benefits of those that do? We earn our benefits by virture of our service and the sacrifices we make. So, from your logic, should we let just everyone shop at the NEX, BX, etc…? How about giving everyone the GI Bill? By the way, I didn’t see a Jo Dutton in global, so I doubt you are actually Coast Guardsman.

SK3. I feel your pain! I am a retired E-8 with nearly 39 years in. I have seen this happen over and over again. Back in the day of the Minitonka and Ponts I was told that the crew would chip through the decks and have to patch them up with steel plates! A real feeling of safety! Sorry you took the bate on BO. I did a lot of research on him prior to the election and found that he was a socialist Marxist from the start. He was educated with his WHITE grandmother’s $$ and then turned on her. What a loving grandson! He got a free ride with his education (like his alcoholic father from Kenya, educated with government $$ at Harvard in Economics). He’s never held a steady job until he got into politics, and you know how hard they work, and now he is over his head. Look at it this way, there won’t be another black president for at least 100 years, so you did something good! I would have voted for Rice, or even Colon Powell, but they didn’t run. In an election you vote for the best of the worse! Thanks for you duty in chicken guts and I must commend you on your spelling skills! Not too many people get comptroller right! They want to make it controller. Regards!

Jay, give me a break. I think the SK3 knows what he’s being paid for after 6 years of service. As for other countries doing the same job with less, you are WRONG! The British CG is an independent civilian service with a better per person budget than the CG here. Other countries have similiar organizations and some are voluntary. Pay is out of whack with other services? I don’t know where you get your info but all services have the same bennies and pay. Check your sources before spoutting off!

How long ago were you active? That might have been the case then, but that was corrected by Ronald Regan and the Bushs! As for teachers, most are overpaid and underworked! I know a few and they are just there for the retirement. I also know some that are excellent and deserve more$$. Why didn’t you become a teacher?

I agree with most of what you say. BO is out on a limb and he’s way over his head. A community activist as a president! Give me a break. I did research on him way prior to the election and knew he was a fraud then.…liar, free loader ( his education paid for my his WHITE Grandma and government $$), his association with Mayor Daly and Daly machine, Rev. Wright, etc, etc,. Anyone that did some reading knew this! I don’t agree with your statements re: the Navy. We still need a strong Navy since our commerce flows by sea! Without protected sea lanes we’re in deep sh..! So we do need a Navy and they do a good job of blowing the hell out of things! But they don’t do a very good job with other things that us Coasties are experts at.

u are one very sick puppy jod

It’s unconstitutional for the Navy to undertake ANY police action inside the US territorial waters except during times of declared war. Of course, the Dim-O-crats haven’t had any compunctions about treading on the Constitution so far, so why start now?

AMEN!!!!! Can I hear a “Hallelujah”, Brother? Most of us here are Patriots or we wouldn’t have been in the service to begin with, though.

I agree with you 100%. I served 4 years myself in the Coast Guard on a 378 High Endurance Cutter from 72 to 74. The biggest thing we could impress the Navy with was a bow thruster. It amazed them to see us dock our selves without any assistance. The Guard has always been under funded. They are looked at as the step child of the military. Every President since I’ve been a adult spends money on the DOD. The Guard has only recently in the past few years started to upgrade its High Endurance Cutter fleet. The last was WHEC 726 Midgett commissioned in 1972. Twenty something years in between big boats is a long time. How many has the DOD turned out for the US Navy?? Guardsmen do there job regardless with no respect. The Guards finest hour for the world to see was roof top rescues after hurricane Katrina. Where was the USN then?

Commerce Dept? We were DOT (transp) prior to DHS

Agree with your statement re: CG should be our own Department in DoD, but where did you get that Adm. Papp is a Chaplin? He was one of the past captains of the Eagle! I think that makes him a line officer that knows how to sail better than most of the COs on cutters! He has had a wide range of experience, but not as a Chaplin. Check your sources better next time. Papp wrote one of the best books on the Eagle as well. My two sons are in the CG now and I WOULD recommend that any person looking for a career in the military join. I wish, after 39 years of service, I was still active!

Right on, CWO3. this guy is full of sh… I also replied to this jerk! senior chief sends!

What about a Cuttermans pin qualifies anyone to comment on an oil spill anyway — I have 17 years in — the first 3 at a Strike Team — the rest serving in Spill Response and HAZMAT related areana as well as working for 2 years w/ DHS for the preparedness directorate. The Coast Guard has 11 missions. Lest we forget the days of facilitating commerce. How dare you bring such discredit to those of us who have put our lives at risk in fires/explosions/chlorine spills and other situations by incinuating that due to a lack of a cuttermans pin we are some how not fit to speak to the taxpayer regarding an oil spill — or anything for that matter. Let me know when you make 3 star…

The public and political reaction isn’t anything new: Rudyard Kipling wrote this over 100 years ago:

Tommy

Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, ‘ow’s yer soul?“
But it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll.

it is obvious that the current president and his cabinet have no idea what they are doing. Hmmm.…could lack of experience have anything to do with it? yes.…thats the biggest part. Last time i checked, people in high positions have to earn their position due to experience and hard work. This administration has done niether. the leader only has a few years experience in government. History has shown us that its the military vets that make the best presidents because they have experience in the real world and understand how it works. Obviously the current president doesnt know what that is like. The current situation proves that the current president was only elected because of his skin color. America has screwed itself.….at least till his term ends.

Your argument does not hold water! The Coast Guard is involved in a lot more than sea duty,ie, Port Security and Safety, pollution, waterways, etc. You don’t need sea duty to do this, I know, I did it for 39 years! Within the old CG many still feel that you need a Cuttermans Pin to take a crap. No longer true!

MKC thanks for your service! Everyone has a right to their opinion even if it’s a bit unnerving. But that’s free speach. We can criticize all we want because we served and that gives us the right. Most of what was said re: the CG is open for public review. I think Thad Allen said a lot about the service when he scrapped Deep Shi..(water).

JIm & CWO — the final number was 25M when said and done — and it all started with a insect and rodent infestation — the material condition of both of the Charleston, SC homeported cutters forced the hands of the CG-45 staff, both Area Commanders and both MLCs. The funding was taken out of hide from all AFC-45 funded programs — this includes funded engineering changes that were either canceled or put on hold from 378s, 110’s, 87s and a slew of dry dock and dockside availabilities. The cutters were not being maintained by anyone. This includes the cutter crews (and the current and most recent past crews did not bring this on alone), the responsible maintenance staffs (NESU, MLC) and CGHQ. The entire 378 cutter class is in poor repair because of deferred maintenance and it is only going to get worse. The Coast Guard is not the only sea going service that is suffering from the budget cutbacks. The Navy has just recently extended the scheduled drydocks for the Carrier fleet to 10 years — they track their maintenance data much better than the Coast Guard. The root of all of our problems is not as much money — it adds to it — but is more that in most cases when a cutter flies a CASREP they are asking for some other organization to provide commercial technical services. Our and our fellow sailors have lost the technical edge and it continues to get worse — I find it appalling that our cutter crews and mostly the commands of our cutters are more concerned with liberty — I actually heard that one poorly maintained cutter was working 4 day work weeks with trop hours. I retired after 27 years in our service and love the Coast Guard I served but if our service continues down this slippery slope, the cutters won’t be able to get underway anyway.

After 26 years in the CG, I remember nearly every year where operations were sharply curtailed because we ran out of funds at the end of the fiscal year for pretty much everything except search and rescue. Same shit, different year, different century. Americans forget that the CG is the only military organization that has a real job 24/7/365.
We operated with few of the perks the other services enjoyed, repaired our acft and vessels as best we could with little support from Congress and still got the job done and done well. This is not as I recall, the first reduction in personnel but I surely hope it is the last. Our missions grew, our budgets were cut and by God, we got the job done.

After 26 years in the CG, I remember nearly every year where operations were sharply curtailed because we ran out of funds at the end of the fiscal year for pretty much everything except search and rescue. Same shit, different year, different century. Americans forget that the CG is the only military organization that has a real job 24/7/365.
We operated with few of the perks the other services enjoyed, repaired our acft and vessels as best we could with little support from Congress and still got the job done and done well. This is not as I recall, the first reduction in personnel but I surely hope it is the last. Our missions grew, our budgets were cut and by God, we got the job done.

SEMPER P!!!!!!!!

Well said; the CG should be the last service that receives budget cuts in a time where homeland security is our prime objective, not nation building!

By the way, the CG spends a lot of money cruising the Bering Sea to be nothing but a glorified ambulance. I know, I was there and I loved my job, but the CG wasted a lot of money being up there for a few fisherman and crabbers. They were supposed to be making sure that the fishing was within limits so as not to be depleted, etc. I have the unique opportunity to talk with some of the fisherman that have been up fishing in the Bering Sea lately, and they are saying that the Bering Sea is being severely depleted of fish. Just how much does the Coast Guard spend sending ships up there to count fish and be an on call ambulance? However, coupled with the Gulf Oil catastrophe and the many essential missions the Coast Guard must perform with inadequate funding, we always seem to get the job done with unparalelled professionalism. The U. S. Coast Guard is truly the World’s Best Professional Maritime Service. Give the Coast Guard their due and the money they deserve to operate. Oh, sorry Coast Guard.….…no money, Congress & the the FDIC have to bail out some more failed banks, even the ones in Puerto Rico!! What a crock!!
F&S (retired, thank god!)

“THE GUARDIAN ETHOS“
I AM AMERICA’S MARITIME GUARDIAN.
I SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.
I WILL PROTECT THEM.
I WILL DEFEND THEM.
I WILL SAVE THEM.
I AM THEIR SHIELD.
FOR THEM I AM SEMPER PARATUS.
I LIVE THE COAST GUARD CORE VALUES.
I AM A GUARDIAN.
WE ARE THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD.

This is what every Guardian is and will always be.

I have been retired for 11 years after 25 years of service. I was a Supply Officer onboard a 378 and for the three years I was on my last ship, we were told that we had to cut the budget 10% each year and every year. We did it and we still made it. Nothing has changed except the names and the faces. No matter what, we Coasties have always been Semper Paratus (Always Ready) for the next mission assigned to us with minimal funding.

Yeah, but some of those destroyers seemed to be pretty nice cast-offs. Today the Coast Guard needs something like the LCS, but we have all seen the trouble that program is in.

I was in the CG in 1967..the government has always run the CG on the cheap

If you cut public programs that’s taking care of those that should not be in this country, we would have money to support our military programs, if we don’t why don’t we just open up the doors and let everyone in and go on public assistance ourselves and let the rich start taking care of us, wile our fleet is tied up. This also will allow more unfriendly to start there own agenda in this country. So, you so called leader o this country, you better start waking up or your going to have another Pearl Harbor on your hands, may this time it will be to late for all of us.

Came into the world in CG blue diapers, G’pa in the lifesaving service, Dad served in WWII, I served 7 years active in the 60’s and 7 reserve thereafter, my son will retire this fall after 24 years, and I’m currently in the Aux. The move to DHS was a very poor move for the CG, I’d like to see it as an independent agency. The CG has many many problems, budget just being one. Leadership is at an all-time low. The brass thinks they are managers and have ignored leadership. Take a look at CG Air in the last few months…six major disasters. Folks that is lack of leadership. Seems to me the new CG needs to take some leadership training from the Marines and Army.

The Areed Forces, to include the Coast Guard know that when the Congress and Politicitions THINK , the miliyary always gets the short end. Congress and the Presidents have known have know for ‚amy years that many of the lower ranks in the services are on food stamps but the minds to be NEVER considered the lower ranks, to get some of them off food this has been going on since the early sixties. But like has been said before, we take care of our own.

I am honestly waiting for Congress and the Presidency to hand the Coast Guard rejected .99 floaties from Walmart, orange duct tape (partially used), and some rejected 550 cord from the Marine Corps and tell them to complete their mission. They are cutting ‘budgets’ yet the Navy is getting new equipment while the USCG is required to carry out their mission and more with an aging fleet kept together by duct tape and JB Weld.

AD members have ‘free’ health care, they do however pay a monthly charge for their dependent health care. It may not be much but they do pay. The structure of their care is also a lot more stringent. It is hard to get the military doctors to do anything, no chiropractors (which many private now offer as part of specialties), vision is beyond basic as is the dental

WOW Joe , The service members take less pay and go into harms way and you have the opinion its just a job. It’s the SERVICE!. Can your employer order you to do things that endanger your life and health, and if you refuse put you in jail. Every member of the service earns the benefits, some more than others but it’s a contract and oath.

thank all of you who served, are serving and will serve, you make a lot of differnce even if it’s 1 life at a time

jay, you remind me of a canadian guy i once knew he used to write to my local paper once a week to try and stop the kids in school from saying the pledge of alliegence are you related to bell bev deveere? oh yeah one other thing that great golden retirement plan you speak of after 22 years service i have another job explain that one to me please!

The truth is like sun light when we sleep– Rosanne Cash. BTW, I also held a Coxswain Pin as well as a Cuttermans Pin. I did more SAR, MLE and Port Security, Port and Starboard Small Boat Station Duty then you can shake a stick at. If the Cuttermans Pin were not important, the CG would not have it. I also served with Master Chief William Horsley, one of the CG’s greatest heroes. I feel certain that if he saw a CG Admiral without a Cuttermans Pin, he would call it a crock of shit! Five years sea duty out of a 25–30 year career is not asking to much. The emperor has no clothes.

Looks like your misinformed. The guy talks about transparency and preaches it, but lies through his teeth. He never would turn over the documents as far as his birth. The guy is in office illegal and does not deserve to represent out Nation. He’s a fraud and a phony. I sure as hell didn’t vote for him.

I don’t believe there was any disrespect intended. However, are you out on the water chasing drug runners or staying away from your family for months or up to a year on end?

MST3,
When you have enough time in to know what you are really talking about, then you should put forth input. The Dallas, albiet old and maybe a litte rough around the edges, is still a viable tool for the United States. It performed the mission required well and narry a shot was fired. If we had parked a Carrier and someother well known combatant there, the Russian leadership (mindful the USSR no longer exists so it would not be Soviet) might have taken this as an act of war. Where; maybe not as big a threat as in yester-year, make no mistake, they still are a formidable foe and one we have no real business tangling with while in IRAQ and Afganistan.

Careful with the question of the Navy in Katrina. They were there right next to us helping with the other services too. Katrina was not just our problem and with out the Navy and our other sister services, we might not have been as successful.

In addition to spending $2 billion to relocate, support, repair and reconstruct its own facilities and personnel, the Pentagon also spent $800 million supporting FEMA directed and other disaster assistance relief activities for Katrina and Rita.

You and the other birthers just want let this go, will you? Regardless of what has been shown or published to disprove this crap, you continue to spew disinformation! Enough already!!!

Has anyone thought of this? DRILL FOUR HOLES IN A CORNER PATTERN AROUND THE WELL 1/3 of THE DEPTH OF THE WELL. PACK WITH EXPLOSIVES AND SEAL. SIMULTANEOUSLY BLOW THE CHARGES, COLLAPSING THE WELL IN ON ITSELF.

What’s this talk about no funding for the USCG?

More money is being allocated to the USCG right now, than has been in 40 or 50 years.

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