China Must Choose on North Korea

China Must Choose on North Korea

We face what appears to be one of the most volatile security threats of the last decade as the two Koreas threaten each other, and us, with talk of war growing graver by the day. We asked Dean Cheng, a China expert at the Heritage Foundation, to tell us just how had things really are and what the PRC’s role should be. Cheng’s conclusion:

This is a defining moment for Beijing. After North Korea’s blatantly unambiguous, and indefensible act of sinking the South Korean Navy’s ship, the Cheonan, Beijing is either going to side with the angels or the demons. South Korea, the US, and even Japan should mobilize global pressure on China to join in the international response to North Korean aggression.

The People’s Republic of China (PRC) and North Korea are both Communist countries, and North Korea depends on China for access to oil and other sundry resources. The implication has often been that North Korea dances to Beijing’s tune; if only Beijing were to press, then North Korea would come to terms on issues ranging from nuclear proliferation to reducing terrorist actions.


But this presumes that North Korea-PRC relations really are as close “as lips and teeth,” as was often claimed in the 1960s. In reality, however, there is real reason to question whether North Korea is especially close to China. North Korean founder Kim Il-Sung was nobody’s puppet; instead, he was very good at playing the USSR and the PRC off against each other, while remaining outside the firm orbit of either. Indeed, North Korea has gone to great lengths to rewrite history, minimizing China’s substantial contributions to the Korean War, despite Chinese casualties that number in the hundreds of thousands.

Moreover, both Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il have rejected following the Chinese path of “Reform and Opening,” in which China has pursued a more capitalist approach to its economy while maintaining political control in the hands of the Communist Party. This has only further increased the gap between Beijing and Pyongyang, since the dependence of the moribund North Korean economy on Chinese largesse has not resulted in North Korean compliance with Chinese interests.

It is also useful to recall that North Korea conducted its first nuclear test in 2006 after China had reassured the world that North Korea would not do so. This was sufficiently embarrassing to Beijing to merit a straight-forward rebuke that the test was a “flagrant and brazen” violation. It also resulted in the Chinese joining in the passage of a UN Resolution (1718) condemning the North Korean action.

So, why hasn’t Beijing sought to constrain North Korea? In the first place, North Korea has the ability to threaten the PRC. Not with nuclear weapons (although there is an implicit potential there), but with the threat of refugees. North Korea’s population is under sufficiently tight control that, even in the midst of the 1990s famine, in which an estimated three to five percent of the population starved to death, there was no significant outflow of people. This suggests that the government has the ability to control the flow of people—or to push them out, if need be.

Worse, from Beijing’s perspective, that level of control may be eroding, as North Korea steadily deteriorates. The recent North Korean currency fiasco suggests the government’s control may be declining, in which case more people might seek to flee. Beijing appears unprepared to push the North Koreans over the brink.

Moreover, while the downsides seem clear, the gains for Beijing from a crackdown on their neighbor are not. Eliminating the North Korean nuclear capability (which does not threaten China in any real sense) benefits the ROK, Japan, and the United States, but does not garner anything for the PRC. Pushing the North over the brink, resulting in regime change or even reunification, is even less clearly in Beijing’s interest. The Chinese Communist Party is not known for pursuing altruism as a matter of national policy.

This has now all come to a head in the wake of the Cheonan incident. Past North Korean provocations, ranging from the 1968 assault on the Blue House (South Korea’s presidential residence) aimed at killing then-President Park Chung Hee to the 1976 killing of two American soldiers at the DMZ to the 1983 Rangoon bombing that killed most of the ROK cabinet to the 1987 bombing of a KAL airliner, have all been met with demarches and denunciations—but no direct response. Have we acclimatized North Korea to believing that it can do almost anything and there will be no consequences?

It would seem that this might be the case. In response to ROK President Lee Myung-bak’s calls for restricting trade and North Korean ship transits, North Korea appears to have upped the ante by not only threatening war, but also ending the one link Lee kept open (a joint venture at Kaesong) and suspending all interactions across the 38th Parallel.

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Lots of a Saber rattling going on and it’s getting loud! But probably all for naught again.…

Nothing a little money won’t help solve.…

Relax Little Bro…I’ve got your six covered!

We’re with you on this one Uncle Sam (as always).

We’re with you on this one too (as opposed to last time).

Eat Kimshe and Die Westerners!!!! ROK on no more

“South Korea, the US, and even Japan should mobilize global pressure on China to join in the international response to North Korean aggression.”

LoL. What global pressure is there to mobilize? We can’t even bring it to bear with Iran.

Oddly enough, I think of the game, ‘Mercenaries,’ when I read about the Koreas. Also, why are the North Koreans allowed to go to the World Cup for the first time since the 1960s?

Good Evening Folks,

As usual I’m not sure what Heritage is saying here, what’s their point?

Why does China have to do anything?

North Korea is not going to use nuclear weapons on China for the simple reason they don’t have any and if they did how are they going to deliver them and against what target of value in this area of China.

On millions of North Koreas rushing the border and into China. If the people left what does North Korea have? North Korea has nothing but people. The Chinese military is quite capable of controlling its borders.

Both the Koreans and Chinese are Communists. In name only. While China is changing into a Socialist Market State the North Koreans are firmly a Stalinist Dictatorship and have no desire to change. The Cold War is over Heritage, wake up.

China has both the means and ability to “make a statement” to North Korea but lacks any motive to do so. In short it is in China’s best interest to do as they have in the past nothing.

I know that these peculiar institutions of winger tanks just can’t understand this, but China would rather share a border with North Korea then South Korea. North Korea is very aware of this and plays the game to its only rule, which is don’t pi** off China.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

The South Korean government should have asked UNSC to investigate the sinking of its ship instead and let UN to decide if NK is found guilty. The U.S has no trustworthiness in Asia, EUROPE and South America and don’t let it get involved in this.

You should add another element to the above mix: the current economic crisis which is not even close to a happy end.

There are several examples of major conflicts bursting out after major economic crisis. I don’t know if military Keynesianism can still work but for sure there are people who are very convinced that such a theory is the winning one.

And what can be more challenging than to take on somebody who has the nuke in his hands. This can be something new and “far enough”.

What do you say about this ideea?

Good Afternoon Folks,

Here is a though that I think applies well to the issue of this post.

“A soldier’s destiny must rest, rather then with careerists, in the hands of grave and responsible officers and commanders, those who experience what Churchill called the statesman’s “stress and soul”. He should never have to die for the sake of academic theory once the doctoral thesis of an Ivy League idealist working his way up through the bureaucracies and think tanks.”

So of you may know this quote, good for you, for the rest read it.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

The key to north korea is their chicomm allies ( and the Marxist in the white house).
The key to the chicomms is japan.
Japan should Just go nuclear and tell the chicomms ( and Barry) to go away.

Since Barry is gutting our nuclear deterrent the japanease can achieve parity withe the chicomms in short order.

The South Korean government should ask the U.S for AAA rated labels and put them on investigation team members so the whole world trust their works.

Good Morning Folks,

Well South Korea, Japan and China had there three way summit this past weekend on North Korea and China made there big statement of what they are going to do, Nottin’

So much for the quality of though of the Heritage Foundation. Another and better know member of of one those peculiar institutions. Max Boot of “The Council on Foreign Relations” had the uncommon good sense to wait until the Chinese make a statement about North Korea.

If Mr. Dean Cheng ‚who has a talent for getting it wrong, might pay attention to Max Boot who I think by now knows he isn’t going to be right. Wait for the horse to be over before predicting its outcome.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

Skinner is a hack: “Their” not “there” If he can not get basic grammar correct.…

Of course we should believe the exactly what the Chinese communists say — they have only killed approximately 60 million people.…

I dont know why everyone automaticly considers nukes to be the only retaliation someone has, N.Korea is big into BIO weapons and that worries me more than anything because you dont need anything sophisticated to deliver them, some with nothing more than a inceticide sprayer on a windy day and they would have denial capability while doing it. I feel we should had been out of there decades ago personaly and just hope our guys on the DMZ are protected and given the utmost consideration during this scenario.

If you are going to call people hacks over grammar on a blog, you should check your own first.
“believe the exactly what”

North Korea is just testing us again, as they do on occasion. The Heritage Foundation is using this incident to drum up its traditional warmongering. China has no incentive to chastise North Korea, regardless of the potential for a swarm of refugees, because it needs a buffer to keep American “self defense” missiles from its border, like those being deployed along the Russian (and Ukranian) borders. They are being their traditional inscrutable self. South Korea is extremely wealthy from all those Hyuandi and Kias we are buying from them and should defend themselves. We should withdraw our U.S. forces from South Korea and let them patrol their own waters. After all, why weren’t they patrolling they’re own waters. And if Japan is fearful of North Korean, let them send troops forward and into South Korean to replace ours. After all, they have all our money from selling us Toyotas and Hondas. Oh, I forgot, from a historical perspective, the Koreans and Japanese hate each other. Final message — we’re broke. If they chaerish their freedom and economic status, let them defend themselves, by whatever means.

Good Morning Boomer,

I agree with you on nuclear weapons, I would even go farther and suggest that other then as terror weapons, nuclear weapons have zero military value.

It is unfortunate that 60 years of false propaganda regarding nuclear weapons has made them a symbol of the terrorist and increased the ability of rogue states to do mischief. This prevailing fear of a non existence but maybe of a nuclear capability has been used to fuel domestic fears of a “nuclear event” and has lead to many stupid and costly decisions in dealing with these states and non state groups. Our belief in our own propaganda has cost many American lives (non existent WMD’s in Iraq) needlessly in attempts to fight something that is not there, instead of using effective and less drastic means to contain such states and non state activities.

The example of the use of the nuclear bluff of course is Libya. Muammar Qadhafi for decades used the threat of having a nuclear weapon over the heads of the west. When he decided that he had spent enough of his treasury and he know he had nothing he sold his “program” to the United States.

The hardware was hauled to the US for inspection and it was discovered that Qadhafi had bought a lot of useless junk and he was no where near having any creditable nuclear weapons program. In short ole’ Muammar was a sucker for any arms dealer trying to upload some useless pipe or metal boxes.

North Korea is no different. If North Korea had a nuclear device they would have done above an ground test(s) to show the world they had arrived at the door of the nuclear club house and were knocking.

Boomer on Bio Weapons. From your description I think you are referring to chemical weapons which are simple to make. Bio Weapons for North Korea like Nuclear weapons are something beyond their current technological abilities.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

Taxpayer, South Korea WAS patrolling their own waters. Maybe you missed the part where it was a South Korean warship that was torpedoed. There aren’t any anti-ballistic missile systems in South Korea for the Chinese to be worried about. Say what you want about the Heritage Foundation, but South Korea has a legitimate gripe against North Korea on this issue. North Korea committed what is in every rule book an act of war. As for North Korea “testing” us, they often play games with inspections, treaties, and breaking embargoes to blackmail us into giving them more stuff. On rare occasions they’ve committed hostile acts against us which have gone mostly unanswered for some bizarre reason.

TMB, In an expanded mode, what I meant to say was that if the South Korean ship that was sunk had any ASW capabilities, it should have detected, identified and sunk the North Korean submarine. But it’s still not any of our business. Otherwise, we’d be discussing whether South Korean, Japan, Taiwan, Israel, Kuwait, Iraq or Afghanistan is the 51st State in the Union!

chem weapons are easier but certain bio weps are not as hard to produce as many believe, While they may be crude and not have as much effect as some high dollar ones, there have been numerous cases right here in the US where people were manufacturing/cultivating bios out of curiosity as they claimed from info they got off the net. There are aslo documented attacks of personnel being poked on buisy walkways by individuals with syringes not realizing the sying they felt when bumped into was a needle injecting them (eubola virus, and small pox contaminated blood have been popular ones). You dont have to put it on a missile or bomb to deploy it which is what most people forget.

Generally speaking, I’d agree that most foreign problems are not/should not be ours; however, if we’ve signed a defense treaty with South Korea then its our duty to either honor it or cancel it.

Good Evening Boomer,

Sorry old pal but I have to disagree with you on Bio-Weapons. I know there is a classification of terrorists on the list called “Kitchen Table Biologists” , by description this is a highly educated/trained person in the life sciences who with the aid of a few inexpensive and quite readily available pieces of equipment and using specimens from either stolen from High School or College labs, or that can be bought from scientific supply houses, synthesized DNA and RNA can be bought for as little as $76.00, I’ve been told, from which they can manufacture bio-toxins. In fact this is one of the operative theories on the 2001 Anthrax Attacks.

The emerging science of Synthetic Biology could, down the road change all what I said above, but that would be a ways off. The Kitchen Table Terrorists being able to cut and splice artificial DNA into a living virus and change its with and then growing the strains in culture and weaponize is still a few weeks away.

This theory is possible, especially in developed countries but very unlikely among Islamic Terrorists groups. While the groups do have access to and are creating war fighting technologies Bio-Chem seems not to be of much interest to them.

History of warfare seems to discourage the use of Bio-Chem weapons. In the case of Chem weapons the wind can change and the aggressor becomes the victim. On Bio Warfare the only successful uses I’m aware of was in medieval sieges where diseased animal carcasses were hurled over the walls and the hurlers waited outside till everyone died, a long wait in some cases.

Bio-Weapons as an WMD is very dicey. First manufacturing is not real easy, there is the delivery vehicle(s) and then it’s protecting those who you don’t want killed.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

Good Evening Folks,

To the Bio-Geeks out. Yes I know I left out some steps in my post above on virus alteration don’t get excited.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

The thing is it doesnt have to be a weapon of mass destruction to be effective, you just have to input fear into the populace and it can create greater havoc than the actual weapon. I’m not going to give out any intel, but it is common knowledge that fear can envoke more casualties than an actual attack at times, such as if I set off a off the shelf bug bomb which is pretty harmless in a crowd of people you are sure to have a possible death or two and numerous casualties from people stampeeding each other to get away from it. In todays world terrorist attacks/unconventional warfare has proven to be effective at impacting a population, harder to prove who did it, much harder to defend against and which is why I suspect more and more countries to employ these types of actions and even using mercenaries while doing it to make it harder to track them, Front line wars are only an aftermath if you can prove the aggressor and that is what troubles me about the world we live in today.

Good Morning Boomer,

We are now back in agreement Boomer. Fear is a most powerful weapon.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

North Korea is going to do whatever they want because they can and nobody is going to stop them. Not as long as China does nothing. We just need to give South Korea and Janpan the go ahead to do what they need to do to protect themselves.

“North Korea is not going to use nuclear weapons on China for the simple reason they don’t have any and if they did how are they going to deliver them and against what target of value in this area of China.”

Yeah they do. 2006 nuke test anyone? Here’s the link -
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Population decrease would be an advantage to both China and NK and the means to achieve such is morally irrelevant to both. Neither party cares which way the wind blows during bio-warfare so “conventional thinking”, “lessons of history”, and good military doctrine are just digestive gasses blowin’ in the wind.

Good Afternoon Folks,

To Ben Rinehart. There is not indisputable evidence that the lawless rouge states of North Korea, Iran or Israel have nuclear weapons. There is no confirmable intelligence that any of these countries have the mentoring of and existing nuclear power or the internal infrastructure and material resources to develop, construct and deliver nuclear weapons. Because a negative can’t be proved, and I’ve been admonished before on the issue of nuclear weapons I won’t go any farther on this issue.

For the record if one considers both North Korea and Iran rogue as lawless states in there regard towards international laws then you also must by definition you have to include Israel based on Israel’s past and present behavior(s).

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

Are they actually prohibited from developing nuclear weapons under any international treaties? I don’t think any of them are signers of Nuclear Proliferation Treaty eg?

Well in my oppinion “rogue states” was a poor wording. How about GBM’s? Governed By Madmen?

Good Morning Folks,

To 78stonewobble. I don’t think there are any international laws regarding nuclear weapons other then treaties which are only as sound as the countries that sign them. As far as terrorists and nuclear weapons or any other kind of weapon I doubt if anything applies since they are currently mostly stateless groups, tribes, clans etc.

My reference was intended to be more general. No respect for the sovereignty of other countries and open international trade routes, open skies, and open areas not under the jurisdiction of another state.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

I guess Mr Kim Jong ILL is really ill must be diabetis. He need to see his doctor before he got his nieghbor ill too.

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