GDP Rank Leads To Pricklier PRC

GDP Rank Leads To Pricklier PRC

With the announcement that the PRC has officially overtaken Japan as the world’s second largest economy, there is once again a perception that the People’s Republic of China is on the verge of matching, if not overtaking, the United States in terms of security.


While there are plenty of reasons to be concerned with China’s national security trajectory, the simple growth of the Chinese economy is not necessarily one of them. As ever, it is essential to keep in mind that China’s impressive economic gains occurs across a population that is still the world’s most populous (although India is rapidly catching up). Raw, general numbers of GDP size, as with population size, can be misleading.

Which is not to say that China’s economy is unimportant. As Chinese civilian and military leaders have long emphasized, military capabilities and the broader economy are inextricably linked. In recent years, the formulation “rich nation, strong army (fuguo, qiang jun)” has often been invoked.

The relationship, however, is a complex one. From the Chinese view, a strong, vibrant economy provides the wherewithal for a powerful military. Not only does it generate the financial wherewithal to supply a large military, but such an economy will almost always embody substantial industrial and technological capabilities. These are essential in order to sustain the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) in the event of “Local Wars Under Informationalized Conditions.” Only an advanced economy can build the kinds of weapons systems necessary to fight and win such wars—systems equipped with advanced sensors, precision guidance systems, a variety of warheads, supported by unmanned aerial vehicles, space-based surveillance capabilities, and networked communications and data channels.

At the same time, however, the days when the PLA enjoyed automatic priority in the allocation of national resources are long past. Today’s PLA faces resource constraints, despite long enjoying double-digit budgetary increases. The priority, as Chinese decision-makers regularly emphasize, is on “national economic development (guojia jingji jianshe).” Military production is important, but it cannot come at the expense of improving the national economy. The implicit bargain is the construction of ever greater potential military power (as embodied in the national economy and the attendant scientific and technological base), while maintaining some limits on actual military power.

The ability to transition from potential to actual power has been boosted over the years, both through the growth of the economy, as well as such measures as the recent enactment of a National Defense Mobilization Law, which provides the legal and administrative underpinning for converting the civilian economy to military ends, should that need arise.

What this highlights is a fundamental tension in how the PLA, and the Chinese leadership writ large, conceives of future wars. Is the PRC expecting to fight short-duration (albeit violent) limited wars, as its doctrinal writings on “local wars” suggest? Or is the PRC planning for large-scale, sustained wars, in which case, it will have the time (and the need) for massive mobilization? Or might it be preparing for both?

For the United States and its allies, this is an essential question to consider. While it has become almost an article of faith among the literati and the intelligentsia that major conventional wars are inconceivable, the reality, especially in Asia, is that many of the basic reasons for past wars continue to cast a baleful shadow. Territorial disputes, ethnic tensions, unresolved historical animosities regularly roil Asian inter-state relations. The PRC is elemental to many of these (e.g., the territorial disputes over the South China Sea, longstanding historical problems with Japan). Similarly, due to its alliance structures, the US, too, has at least an interest in many of these issues. It is the overlap between Beijing and Washington’s concerns that have led to the sharp exchange of words regarding South China Sea dispute resolution and the Yellow Sea naval exercises.

China’s burgeoning potential military power, as embodied within its growing economy, is likely to affect Chinese perceptions of their own capabilities, and the degree of deference it feels it should be accorded by its neighbors. [Eds note: Remember the USNS Impeccable, pictured?] Insofar as Beijing feels it can apply economic and diplomatic pressure against its neighbors (consistent with its views of strategic deterrence or zhanlue weishe), its new rank is likely to increase its assertiveness.

From Washington, what is needed, but is unfortunately sorely lacking, is a consistent message to Beijing. The ongoing Yellow Sea naval exercises involving the USS George Washington carrier battlegroup, for example, occurs only after flip-flopping on whether the flat-top would operate in the Yellow Sea at all. Where the Chinese would likely have issued only pro forma protests in response to the original plan, the current exercises have aroused apoplectic responses from Beijing, in no small part because the Administration gave the Chinese the impression that it would not deploy the battle group to the Yellow Sea at all (by ordering it withdrawn to the Sea of Japan). Nor is such zig-zagging likely to reassure American allies.

In dealing with the second largest economy, it is to be hoped that American decision-makers can reach a consensus among themselves about what policy should be followed, and then adhere to it. It is what our allies, neutrals, and even the PRC would prefer to see.

Dean Cheng is an expert on the Chinese military at the Heritage Foundation.

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Good Morning Folks,

First off I would like to congratulate Mr. Cheng on a posting a far better story under the source of “Air , Commentary, Intelligence, International Naval and Space” then he posts for The Heritage Foundation. Although I disagree with some of the points he makes I think his conclusion is sound.

The only major point that I disagree with Mr. Cheng on is what is conventional warfare. Traditionally in China and other countries in asia and the old Soviet Union it has been masses troops in the “Human Wave” formation with some armor back up. You simply overwhelm the enemy, the PRC’s PLA is clearly departing for this tactical use of human wave in favor of a more technological battlefield.

The size of the PLA is shrinking, about half of what is was 20 years ago and the emerging “military type manpower” organization is the PAP. The PAP no longer reports to the PLA but to the CMC, which of the CMC’s is uncertain. The PAP has grown form an organization of military misfits and aging veterans of 100,000 in the year 2000 to a force of at least 1.5 million today with new uniforms and weapons, commonly armed with the Type 79 SMG and the Type 81.1 assault rifle and has its own transportation, chain of command, training centers and operational bases with in the 7 military districts. What does the PAP do? That’s one of the PRC’s mysteries.

The ability of the PRC to “independently develop” military technology and come up with a deployable operational weapons still doesn’t exists. The main reason for this is the lack of intellectual infrastructure. The PRC still must relay on foreign countries, Israel, Russian, Switzerland, Portugal, Germany, Holland etc. for the technology, engineering, skilled labor and project management to build weapons systems.

An example of this is power plants. Aircraft engines, gas turbine, nuclear reactors and large marine diesels are still beyond the capacity of the PRC industrial base. In electronics the PRC is not a chip developer (WSJ 8/17/10) and is only just starting to acquire the capacity to independently develop IP chips. It will be a decade or more before the PRC can compete with the west in this vital area of technology. The stories or China’s ability to reverse engineer are just that stories.

I agree with Mr. Cheng that there is no correlation between the PRC’s economic growth and its ability to field a modern military.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

Did you read the same column I did? I don’t think Cheng claimed that there is NO correlation between China’s economic growth and its ability to field a modern military at all. His third paragraph specifically says that the two are “inextricably linked.”

Byron, I virtually always enjoy your comments and I learn from them.

However, in this case, I would agree with the “Lurking Observer”. Your last paragraph really doesn’t seem to fit with either Mr. Cheng’s remarks or with reality. It would be a bizarre world indeed if there were no correlation.

Flip side of that is that your recounting of the handicaps in fielding a modern military from purely Chinese sources would seem to be quite valid. But the fact that they are able to buy (and to steal) so much technology from others would seem to be quite related/correlated to their economic growth.

But then, I keep hearing inklings that China’s apparent economic growth may not be quite as real or solid as most seem to think. I’d be really interested in your insights in this matter.

Good Evening Folks,

I’m game. Why does economic growth mean you have to have a larger military?

To HasBeen you argument on the reliability of Chinas economic numbers I can’t disagree with as the US economic numbers they are highly suspect and are presented to serve a political purpose not economic, but it really doesn’t pertain to this argument.

The economy of the United States grew faster then any in the world from 1789 to now, we still are the fastest growing in per capita income and dollars in the world. Up until WW II we had what amounted to the worlds smallest Army and Navy of any major country in the world. Food for though here how could an Army who after the Civil War that never had more the 15,000 total in 25 years wipe out 2.5 million Native Americans. For over a hundred an fifty years we had unlimited economic growth. Why does the PRC need to grow its military to support economic growth.?

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

Byron:

Thank you, but I think you misunderstand the point.

It is wrong to say that there is NO correlation. There manifestly is a correlation between their economic growth and its ability to field a modern military.

Maybe you intended to say that there needn’t be a STRONG correlation between economic capability/growth and the fielding of a modern military? Maybe you were trying to suggest that saying that there is a correlation between economic growth and the fielding of a modern military ignores many technical, cultural, structural, and political factors?

On those points I’d strongly agree with you and it would seem to fit the general thrust of your post.

And regarding your question, “Why does economic growth mean you have to have a larger military?”? It doesn’t. I suspect we agree on that.

Oh, and thank you for your comments on the economic reports. It’s nice to have some confirmation that my suspicions are not entirely off base.

Good Morning Folks,

I’m assuming that the quote her in the third paragraph is what Lurking Observers refers to as “…inextricably linked…”. I ignored this because Mr. Cheng doesn’t identify who “Lurking observers…military leaders who say…” are who said this, it’s an out of contex quote where the full quote is not given.

Besides being sloppy journalism Mr. Cheng backs away from his intent in the third paragraph in the fourth paragraph. Mr Cheng provides no connection between a “vibrant economy” and”…substantial industrial and technology capabilities…” Switzerland, Israel and Portugal three of the PRC’s biggest suppliers of military technology are not vibrant economies.

The notion that the PRC because of it economic growth is a growing military power that could challenge the US anytime soon is simply incorrect. Contrary to popular belief the PRC has no operational submarine ballistic missile systems, can put to se only two nuclear submarines, has on six DD haul that can put to sea, the PLAF has 74 Su.27’s, how many can fly is another issue, the PLAN has 48 Su-30M’s, again how many can be put in the sir.

ALLONS,

Byron Skinner

The Portuguese Navy has a sailship / school ship called “Sagres” (a sister ship of the U.S. American “U.S.C.G.C. Eagle”) which went on a scheduled trip to China. Yesterday, when it arrived, the Chinese suddenly changed their mind and refused to let it dock, claiming that “it’s a warship”.

Today Portuguese trolls are mocking on the Internet that China may not quite be the naval power that the U.S.A. so fear.

The U.S ‘s GDP is like Lehman Brother inc’s share price. It is big for today and gone by tomorrow.We don’t believe in jobless,bankless,touristless,fishless,sealess economic growth.What are growing : frauds,scams,shootings and long unemployment lines.

That’s pretty funny! Thank you.

China’s philosophy is, I believe, two-fold. A strong economy makes for a strong military (notice they say so themselves, ““rich nation, strong army (fuguo, qiang jun)” read article again if necessary). Secondly, a strong military is a demonstration of that economy and the ability of a nation to “project power” worldwide. Hell folks, we’ve been doing it for generations!
China’s inferiority complex is a driving motivation to their economic and military growth, AND WE ARE FEEDING IT!..When giant retailers like Wal-Mart demand that American manufacturers move operations to China, when nearly 90% of every thing we buy is made in China we, as a nation, have become the “paper tiger”. We have lost our national goals by the acts of those we put in office to make our lives better and softer and more guaranteed.
I believe China’s military goals are as much keyed to intimidation and coercion as to overt conflict. China runs an extensive intelligence operation and is involved in major “straw man” land purchases throughout the world, especially in South and Central America. China owns the U.S. economy. No valid economist will argue that. We are already surrounded, both inside and outside. Yet, because we all live VERY comfortably there is no alarm. China and the minions of our own ruling class are like insidious cancer: By the time you realize symptoms, it’s to late to stop it!

The main point to take from all of this as I see it is that with Chinas’ economic growth will come a stronger larger military. Why? The more you have the more you are willing to spend to protect it. Not only that there are plenty of people they can pay to be in the military. Should Americans be concerned? Not as long as we can buy from them. We are the best market they ever had. What happens when we run out of money(and we will with this economy). Can you spell invasion.

Don’t mention it. But I really didn’t make a joke, it happened. As if a sailship crosses the World because its captain misread an invitation…
I think that the Chinese only acted so stupidly to prove to themselves that they “can also snub N.A.T.O. navies, if they want”, or something like that.
Pity. I really thought that they were going to be much more pragmatic, peaceful and business-minded as a Super-Power (like the Japanese)…

This is going to end bad.

Part 1 / 4 :

The core part of this article, that aptly synthesizes all possible scenarios, is:
“Is the PRC expecting to fight
1) short-duration (albeit violent) limited wars, as its doctrinal writings on ‘local wars’ suggest?
Or is the PRC planning for
2) large-scale, sustained wars, in which case, it will have the time (and the need) for massive mobilization?
Or might it be preparing
3) for both?“

(Continued)

Part 2 / 4 :

Here is one of the worse scenarios, and it’s got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with tactics & strategy,
ONLY with
1) logistics,
2) industrial power
3) financial power
( = George Marshall’s decisive input in the Allied victory of WW II) : Right now the U.S. Navy is committed to a years-long, if not to a decades-long, super-human, financial and organizational effort in order to slow down its worrisome loss of ship quantity as much as possible. On top of that, some of its critics also complain about its recent warships’ bang-for-buck-ratio (you’ll find some highly informed articles about that WITH equally good discussion forums in the U.S. American blog “New Wars”, mainly dedicated to naval warfare).
http://​newwars​.wordpress​.com/

The situation isn’t going to get any better in the future.

So, what will the U.S. Navy look like after a short but deadly clash with China?

(Continued)

Part 3 / 4 :

Even if all U.S. submarines survive intact (right now China hasn’t much of an anti-submarine and anti-aircraft / anti-cruise missile / anti-missile capability), how on Earth is the U.S. Navy supposed to replace
1) all its sunken surface ships
2) AND their highly trained crews
3) AS FAST AS POSSIBLE ,
maybe even
4) its few AND damaged shipyards
AND
5) their skilled work force too, if they were attacked,
if the U.S. has even too little of that right now? Where shall all the necessary time, money and personnel come from afterwards, for renewed decades’ amounts of sophisticated warships, and preferably quickly? In simple words: How do you build a Super-Power Navy in a few months or years? (I wasn’t even talking about the economical crisis factor…)

(Continued)

Part 4 / 4 :

And what if the Chinese return after a few years for a second, third and fourth etc. jab (that ominous “Or might it be preparing for both?“ phrase above) : How often will the bullheaded U.S.A. insist on (and invest in) rebuilding their globally reaching Navy over and over again, at no matter what cost, “just to have a navy too” and to carry out ALL its former missions again… but that may be sunk again in a few minutes?

That’s why China doesn’t have to be MINIMALLY worried with getting the job done properly during the first round(s): They know that they have more breath than the U.S.A., and sea denial is also easier and cheaper than sea control…
A genial phrase from the author of that “New Wars” blog I mentioned above:

“Capability doesn’t duplicate availability” … (You guessed it: That’s why he HATES aircraft carriers)

The U.S. Americans will feel proud for having won every single battle with their superior technology and greater experience, but at the end the Chinese will feel proud for ruling the World’s five oceans.

If that’s their idea of a warship, they would have a cardiac arrest seeing Nimitz class carrier, or Virginia class submarine.
This was just a cheap shot at the U.S..

China’s economic surge will help them fund a better military. But as long the current occupant of the White House moves along in 2012, and control of the congress changes in 2010. We have every reason to believe that our defense industry, and the military itself will continue to give us the edge for the foreseeable future. China’s navy is still basically a brown water fleet. And the rest of their military is not organized around force projection beyond defensive measures, for the most part.

freefallingbomb:

Your analysis is appreciated. I tend also to agree with those who believe our supercarriers are too vulnerable to be worth the expenditures and that we need to look closely at our options for power projection.

But then, I’m more of an infantry kind of guy and tend to think that small, mobile, relatively inexpensive, and numerous with great coordination of maneuver and fires is what will finally be found to rule the day.

Not being much experienced in naval warfare I may be misjudging the way that modern naval warfare will work out. But still, when it looks like one moderately lucky Kilo could sink a carrier…

To the poster “HasBeen” :

——————————–

Part 1 / 5

I did omit two major points, though:

1) If China continues to expand its impressive gun collection, then its regional neighbours (Japan, Four Asian Tigers, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, India and others) might feel compelled to form a N.A.T.O.-like defensive pact = larger than S.E.A.T.O. and A.S.E.A.N. combined, or even some “Oriental E.U.” with a common currency AND a military arm, that would most probably
a) buy a lot of its weaponry from the U.S.A. ( = almost a life insurance: Ask Taiwan!),
b) if war happens, fight a proxy war for the U.S.A., like some “first platoon” or a “border patrol” (to use a more “infantry-kind-of-guy” language), before the U.S.A. arrives and
i) either brings only vast supplies (like in 1973, during the October War),
or
ii) brings its own weapons and troops (as envisioned for the defense of Europe, during the Cold War),
or
iii) stays out of this conflict entirely, for self-preservation’s sake (bye-bye “strategic interests”…), and challenges a battered China afterwards.

(Continued)

Part 2 / 5

I can understand that young giants on the World stage feel splendid about bullying all small countries in their hinterland:
1) The U.S.A. did it in Latin America, in the Caribbean and even planned to invade poor, virginal dame Canada in 1812, and again in 1935, just for da kix,
and
2) Nazi Germany
and
3) the Soviet Union
had their own youthful folly phases too, and now
4) China
is also doing it, consciously and voluntarily forfeiting international prestige and business partners in its haughtiness. But I think it’s a bit premature for China to show its teeth already to the U.S.A. (with shifting strategies, espionage, earmarked weapons, official statements, by threatening U.S. American allies in the region and arming U.S. American enemies world-wide, through border incidents with the U.S.A., etc.). Nevertheless I’m impressed that school-bully China doesn’t even D-A-R-E to dispute the 1858 borderline with Russia hotheadedly, or even Mongolia’s status, or covet large and empty (but mineral-rich) swaths of Siberia as “vital space”, or to export millions of farmers and unemployed there ( = future Chinese colonies), etc., not even to MUTTER such ideas!

Is Russia’s old, coherent, few-basic-points, low-profile China policy simply more fitting = safer than the U.S.’s?

(Continued)

Part 3 / 5

Worse: In my opinion it’s the U.S. American ‘play-on-all-sides’ China policy ITSELF that sends wrong, confusing military signals to Super-Power Nr. 1,5 .
E.g.:
1) Borrowing money excessively from the “evil, God-less” Chinese Communists, but maligning and undercutting all their major international land, company and mineral deals,
2) accusing China of pervasive espionage efforts, but being repeatedly caught themselves with MILITARY ESPIONAGE HARDWARE along its borders,
3) publishing foolish “studies” that “specify dates” on which China supposedly “attacks the U.S.A.”, but declaring itself ready to fight China ANYTIME ANYWHERE over… an island, Taiwan (Imperial Germany’s mistake before World War I : Never enter a war to save a very weak ally!),
4) “titillating” China with an invitation to phony, shitty Western clubs like the G8 and the U.N.O. Security Council, at the expense of protégé Taiwan’s membership in all U.N. organizations, but condemning China simultaneously for restoring public order in the Tiananmen Square,
5) shedding big, big, crocodile tears over occupied Tibet, but setting up military bases in Kyrgyzstan and in all other ex-Soviet republics around China,
and so on.

I think that this way the Chinese can’t take the U.S.A. very seriously, whatever the U.S. say next…

A clearly defined ideology and external policy could even spare you another costly (and perhaps entirely unnecessary) arms race and destruction – see how utterly relaxed China leaves Russia!

(Continued)

Part 4 / 5

2) I speculated that China could – and would – repeatedly flush the U.S. Navy (or at least: Large and important parts of it) down the toilet in order to turn its repeated renewal into a herculean, prolonged, but ultimately always futile matériel endeavour, and – above all – making it completely UNAFFORDABLE , thus depriving the U.S.A. of any significant navy. Even if China lost more men at sea (they’ve got reserves).
However, this theory of mine only works if these clashes stay always conventional. But on second thought I concede I was completely wrong: The U.S.A. would rather lose themselves ( AND the rest of the World!) over losing their precious ships several times over and over again with conventional weapons only, or even over carving out (and respecting!) a “natural” sphere of influence for the future Super-Power Nr. 1 (while simultaneously setting up their own bases in one Latin country, Colombia, to attack another, Venezuela, and also tip-toeing around the former Soviet republics as if Khrushchev was still in charge: Talk of hypocrisy… In my opinion, this incoherent, uneven, humiliating treatment of Super-Power China via-à-vis two other established Super-Powers is a GRAVE mistake of the U.S. Diplomacy: The U.S.A. can’t dictate around China forever on how to talk to its direct neighbours, or how to behave in its own waters, whether they like it or not. My recommendation: Embrace reality).

(Continued)

Part 5 / 5

So: After a few more sacrificed and rebuilt U.S. Navies, one day a terrified U.S. ship commander loses his self-control and launches the first tactical nuke, then a Chinese submarine captain returns the gesture, the tactical nuclear conflict quickly flares up from limited to general, first at sea and then on land, then to an exchange of symbolic H.A.N.E.s (“High-altitude nuclear explosions”) over the capitals, then to mutual, massive, nuclear counter-FORCE strikes, then to a few, dissuasive, counter-VALUE strikes and finally to an all-out ABC war. And then the cloud comes and covers the World.

But at least the U.S. Navy (1775 – 2010, 2010 – 2015, 2015 – 2016 and 2016 – 2016) will be avenged. I’m so proud.

You mean ” we are running out of credits”. Don’t worry it is time for Indians and Africans to finance us.

freefallingbomb

Pretty speculative but worth the read.

But I think you’re mis-reading some of the diplomacy and scenarios. There are too many wild cards to really know how it would all play out, and one must remember that China is saddling itself with many of the same potential errors the U.S. has made. Also ignoring the possibility that the U.S. might get leadership that is worth more than we’ve seen in the last few decades…

To the poster “HasBeen” :

You wrote: “China is saddling itself with many of the same potential errors the U.S. has made.”

In my opinion, China’s internal affairs are also its Achilles Heel (as was the case with the Soviet Union, as seems to be the case with present-day U.S.A., too). So far, the Chinese were only successful at bringing their population growth under control, sometimes with MONSTROUS methods (letting thousands of baby girls and deficient kids simply starve in forlorn institutions, etc.), but they still need to plan their country’s administration, infrastructure and Economy much better, especially to prepare it for national tragedies (epidemics, weather calamities, famines, etc.), an eventual economic down-turn or even ethnic strife.
Of all recent Super-Powers, only the British and the Nazis were moderately capable of looking at their own people while simultaneously fulfilling their absolutistic leaders’ power trips.

Some philosopher once remarked: “The common man is all that matters. Everything else revolves around him.”

But go tell that to a vain, ambitious, corrupt or mad politician…

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