Third Lockheed JAGM Test Misses

Third Lockheed JAGM Test Misses

The day before the deadline for official government testing, Lockheed Martin’s Joint Air To Ground Missile prototype missed the target, leaving the defense giant with two misses out of three in the competition for the $5 billion program. Raytheon struck the target on its third test, a company source said, giving them their third successful shot of three.

“Lockheed Martin conducted a JAGM Technology Demonstration flight test September 10 at White Sands Missile Range, NM. The test was designed to demonstrate the missile’s millimeter wave radar sensor capability. During the test, an anomaly was detected causing the missile to impact outside of the target. A post flight analysis is currently underway to determine the cause. The millimeter wave and imaging infrared tests will be rescheduled and conducted once range time is available,” a Lockheed Martin spokeswoman said in an email.

The company defended its performance thus far. “The goal of the flight test portion of the Technology Demonstration phase is to collect sensor data and technical information, which was successfully accomplished during all three tests. We look forward to conducting the FA-18 captive carry data collection flight tests later this year,” the spokeswoman said. Lockheed had another test set for today but I understand that has been postponed. The company is likely to pay for more tests and submit data from those to the government.


The Raytheon-Boeing team had no further comment on their final test.

Lockheed knows what caused the missile in the second government test to miss the target. As often happens with high-tech weapon systems, it was a simple part that failed. “You’re going to think this is silly, but it’s a mechanical bracket that holds one of the rocket motors. It wasn’t a design issue. We are confident the design is sound,” Frank St. John, head of Lockheed’s JAGM’s effort, told me Sept. 1.

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Good Evening Folks,

I would take it that this failure was not a surprise. This afternoon the DoD gave a contract to Hellfire Systems of Orlando Fla. for $20,073,228.00 to transition into the AGM-114R Hellfire II Romeo. The production line for the Hellfire Romeo is expected to be ready on 9/30/13.

I know that these are both different missiles for different platforms but the timing of this is an indicator that this program along with the platforms designed to use it are being watched very closely. Don’t be surprised to see the JAGM canceled and sent back to the drawing board on the manufactures dime.

The era of taking years of massaging weapons that almost work into production at tax payers expense are over re. the NLOS-LS program.

ALLONS,

Byron Skinner

>As often happens with high-tech weapon systems, it was a simple part that failed. “You’re going to think this is silly, but it’s a mechanical bracket that holds one of the rocket motors. It wasn’t a design issue. We are confident the design is sound,”

If the simple failure modes haven’t been resolved yet it is unlikely that the complex ones have been even seen yet.

Sounds like just another program where you skimp on the testing until after the customer is committed then you pile on the fixes. SOP.

Once again, Oblat shows he knows nothing about what is talking about. This is a competition between Raytheon and Lockheed and the winner has yet to be selected. So your accusation of Lockheed ripping off the government is meaningless.

Is anybody else not seeing Byron Skinner’s comments despite them being listed as recent on the right of the page? I suppose it would just be the usual however.

To the poster “William C”

correction: “William C.”

You wrote: “Is anybody else not seeing Byron Skinner’s comments despite them being listed as recent on the right of the page?”

I noticed that too. I found his increased absence in this message forum and elsewhere a bit strange, so I “Googled” his pseudonym et voilá: Like you said, his “D.o.D. Buzz” commentaries actually show up on “Google”, but become somehow “invisible” here.

I’ve heard saying that senior users of this new Internet discussion forum have the special prerogative to chose (to order the editor) which fellow readers may read & comment their posts and which don’t.

I just guess that makes you part of “D.o.D. Buzz”‘s kindergarten league / troll caste…

The photo on this page is of the 3aytheon-Boeing JAGM, by the
way.

To the poster “Oblat”

You wrote: “If the simple failure modes haven’t been resolved yet it is unlikely that the complex ones have been even seen yet.”

The article attributes the cause of the fail to “a mechanical bracket that holds one of the rocket motors” (“but it collected valuable sensor data…”).

If a rocket’s loose burning engine bounces around all its other internal organs, you even call THIS a “simple failure mode” ? Okay, so they could have inserted the engine nozzle first into the rear…

I wonder, would LM’s R & D team have the guts to drop by Werner von Braun’s rest home to say “Hi!” ?

I would not read anything too sinister into the missing comments. I have also had my comments disappear from the site in the past. It was nothing more than a problem on the website’s display properties, the solution was a refresh by the site admin.

I sincerely doubt that anyone so prolific in posting would want their comments limited in viewership.

Yeah, Raytheon’s winning this one. Their uncooled IR seeker is already a big cost/complexity advantage, throw in the better test performance and it’s a no-brainer.

To the poster “Dog Face Liberal”

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You wrote: “I would not read anything too sinister into the missing comments.”

Oh, but Byron’s posts are NOT “missing”… they’re socializing with aristocratic company on this Web-site’s upper floor, from which we lowborn guests are shut out.

But you may always take an envious peek at them in the “Recent Comments” column, on the right of the screen.

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You wrote: “It was nothing more than a problem on the website’s display properties, the solution was a refresh by the site admin.”

Then restoring MY disappearing posts to life seems to be extraordinarily hard to fix.

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You wrote: “I sincerely doubt that anyone so prolific in posting would want their comments limited in viewership.”

NEVER , that would be snobbery!

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To the censor Colin Clark: Deleting our comments is like burning books!

Gotta agree. Perhaps the cooled IR seekers offers an advantage in resolution, but that won’t matter unless Lockheed can do a serious turn around here.

To the poster “William C.”

You wrote: “Perhaps the cooled IR seekers offers an advantage in resolution”

Cooled I.R. seekers offer a better contrast perception, for example of faint I.R. sources at great distances, or of concealed I.R. sources.Unless light acts significantly different in the I.R. spectrum than in the visual spectrum, contrast distinction isn’t the same thing as resolution.
If the seeker is also made intelligent enough to choose the right I.R. source among many other, similarly hot and large ones (for example decoys), I actually prefer contrast detection over resolution for I.R. seekers.

freefallingbomb,

We ain’t censoring. We appear to have had some very limited technical problems with comments. Very few are being affected so it’s hard to figure out what’s happening and how to fix it. Burning books of any kind by any author is not in our DNA. As regular readers know, we have standards to which you agree when you sign up to post. Basically, it boils down to one does not post anything that is personally offensive or libellous.

Sorry for my paranoid conspiracy theories then. I thought I had another case of:
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http://​www​.wholetruthcoalition​.org/​w​p​-​c​o​n​t​e​n​t​/​upl
http://​miscellanea​.wellingtongrey​.net/​c​o​m​i​c​s​/​2​008
http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~ccolombo/qqxsg

But after all, it’s seems to be just a problem of:
http://​blog​.stackoverflow​.com/​w​p​-​c​o​n​t​e​n​t​/​u​p​l​o​a​ds/
http://www.offthemarkcartoons.com/cartoons/1999–0
http://​www​.rsc​-northwest​.ac​.uk/​a​c​l​/​e​M​a​g​A​r​c​h​i​v​e​/RS

Sometimes things are just what they are. (Where is Byron?)

Good Evening FFB,

I’m here FFB. I said all I had to say in my first post on this issue. As far as being bumped because my opinion offends some, I’m very much aware of how things are.

In the United States Freedom of the Press is limited to those who own the press, which is how it should be. Mil​.com is a business and the opinions of the people who are paying the bills are a factor in if a post stays or not.They don’t like it, well sometimes there is a “computer glitch”, but as you discovered and many other who read but don’t post the message if posted is not lost.

Anybody with an IQ above 80 know that the media (the 21st. Century for the Press) is biased and that the way Americans do and have always liked it. Any fool that says a media outlet is fair and balanced is a lier.

Our American courts in recent has even created a super free speech, call “commercial speech”, it says that the opinion of a corporation is the opinions of all the share holders and has more standing the individual speech.

The editors of this site and I more likely disagree on more issues then we can find common ground on, that’s the way it should be. Being an old stubborn bloody Infantryman, I’m not backing down to make nice, its not part of me and I’m certain that in the future there will be more “computer glitches”.

ALLONS,

Byron Skinner

The picture doesn’t match the story. That’s not Lockheed’s launcher, that’s a Raytheon/Boeing launcher.

Bywrong works for the Obama administration. He is on the teleprompter team.

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