Slash Troops, Old Core Missions

Slash Troops, Old Core Missions

In the coming years, the Pentagon should look to cutting troop strength to pre-9–11 levels, slash redundant and poorly performing programs while reevaluating the services’ core missions, all in an effort to shave 10 percent or more off the Defense Department’s expenses, members of an influential Washington think tank argued this week.

Facing the prospects of a continually rising deficit and national debt, the Pentagon must look at how it can save enough money to help keep America’s deficit in check while ensuring it’s ability to project power.

Once the war in Afghanistan winds down, “we may have to reverse that fifteen percent increase” in troop numbers that occured over the last decade,” said The Brookings Institution’s Michael O’Hanlon during a Dec. 22 presentation at the think tank. “So we go back to Clinton era levels on the Army and the Marine Corps; that is one big strategic concept.”


Still, this will only be feasible if and when the war in Afghanistan ends. And, “obviously, if we were to have another decade like the one we’re now finishing just had, we probably wouldn’t want to go to a smaller Army and Marine Corps.”

Such cuts should take place “in the next presidential term” as the economy improves and the fight in Afghanistan ends, said O’Hanlon.

This comes as White House officials are reportedly telling the Pentagon to chop $90 billion from its budget plans for the next five years, starting with a $12 billion cut for FY-12.

Beyond winding down the war in Afghanistan and reducing troop levels, a further 10 percent in savings could be realized by streamlining redundant or poorly performing weapon systems and reevaluating core missions, O’Hanlon went on to say.

“A good example here would be tactical aircraft modernization where we’re building a Super Hornet for the Navy, planning build the F-35 for the Air Force Navy and Marine corps, completing the purchase of the F-22 program, using a lot more drone aircraft than we ever had before and modernizing munitions that are capable of fare more precise attacks than had ever been possible in human history,” said O’Hanlon. “That full range of modernization is arguably excessive.”

When asking “what’s the healthiest way to build a long-term economy that’s strong and therefore a national defense posture that’s sustainable, you may decide to take some risk and have a little bit less tactical air modernization,” said O’Hanlon.

Next on his list is most obvious for any Pentagon-watcher; cut programs that aren’t performing according to schedule and budget such as the Army’s now-cancelled Future Combat Systems project.

Perhaps most difficult to achieve, is the academic’s suggestion that the DoD should look at cutting certain core missions from each service’s portfolio that are less than likely to be needed in the future.

“Here, a classic example might be Marine Corps amphibious assault,” said O’Hanlon, calling into question the Marines’ historic bread and butter.

“I don’t pretend to suggest that forced entry operations are altogether a thing of the past,” said O’Hanlon. “But, we do have certain capabilities for carrying this out already.”

He then pointed to the Marine Corps’ Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle and MV-22 Osprey tiltrotor as “dubious ways to further our capabilities in this area.”

“If it’s a mission that may seem to be sort of beyond the heyday of it’s likely application, this may be an are of modernization where we’re willing to run some more risks,” said O’Hanlon. “We’ve got to introduce a spirit of trading off short-term calculated gambles of how we can make do with a little bit less to shore up our longer-term economic foundations of national power.”

O’Hanlon was joined by former Clinton administration budget director Alice Rivlin, who called the nation’s deficit and debt problems as one of the most important issues to be tackled if the nation is to remain strong in the face of competition from nations such as China.

However, fellow Brookings academic Robert Kagan refuted the notion that “saving $55 billion or $60 billion a year so the defense budget can make its fair share of the sacrifice is too risky and not necessary. We do have to solve our budget crisis but we would be fooling ourselves and taking very great risks” by cutting defense spending.

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i doubt that $90 billion figure very much. Its just from the rumor mill– the same mill that said 2 carriers were going to be cut and that the entire B-2 fleet was going going to go bye bye back in FY 2010. Cuts are coming– but that was assumed. If you look at the budget projections it was assumed that FY12 would have a smaller budget– due to the reduced costs of the wars. The base budget was supposed to grow a bit. This might change but i highly doubt that its going to be $90 billion. This number probably came from some proposal that will end up being shot down.

Sorry, but what is correct ? Defence News writes now a 78 billion cut over 5-year term, started with a 12 billion cut in FY2012. Is the 12 billion cut in fy2012 now part of the Total Area of 78 billion cuts or is it aditional to the propsed 78 billion ?

78 Billions over 5 Years (15 Billions per Year) is many but not so much as 90 Billions (our 18 billions peer Year) over 5 Years.

i believe they are talking about 90B in total including the 12 billion this year.…remember this is all rumors at the moment and its not set in stone. Congress ultimately decides and i can’t see them taking too lightly to sizable cuts especially when we are engaged in 2 wars. The Tea party’s power in the republican party is overstated along with their anti-defense spending tendency (a few vocal tea party politicians advocate defense cuts but a good many of them would not be so keen on them since defense is specifically outlined in the constitution)

The Super Hornet, F-35, and F-22 are excessive? Not really. A single aircraft cannot do all missions. We’ve seen this time and time again.

The USAF needs a high-end air superiority fighter like the F-22 and a lower cost, multi-role fighter like what the F-35 was supposed to be. The USN needs a very capable strike fighter and the Super Hornet fills that niche for a time.

@Rodney 54

Since I was not so sure the Tea party radicals (for example Ron Paul and his Son) are not longer the minority group in the house. Since the moust Pro Defence democrats for exmapel Ike Selkton have lost there seat and the moust progressivs like Barney Frank stay in office. And President Obama is also possibly an Anti Defence Democrat.

Also i have yet to figure out this love affair with the clinton era military– it was one of the most short sighted policy era’s in history– it lead to the atrophy of our defense industrial base to the point that now almost every reagan era equipment replacement program is no over budget and off schedule. The only reason the clinton military could perform operations was that it could live off of the reagan era surplus.

Obama has to worry about re-election soon so he won’t be too anti-defense. The tea party is an important force in the republican party but its anti-defense stance has been way over-rated. Only a few of them have spoken out-loud about cutting defense (rand and ron paul etc) but most have kept their mouth shut. My guess is they will be willing to cut defense– but that defense should share the least amount of cuts. You have to remember that national tea party leaders such as sarah palin are adimant about sparing defense from cuts– so that carrys alot of weight.

Yes, some pro-defense dems have been nocked out but there are still many of them out there. Plus you have to factor in that republicans vote lock step more often then the dems so the party leadership (which is pro-defense) will probably find a way to get many of the “stragglers” in line

Hanlon works for the Brookings Institute, which is a very liberal thik tank. They are always willin to reduce defense and never willing to get the governement out of personal issues. I don’t suppose they were against the $5 billion school lunch extravagansa which will only servew to ensure that perent pay less attention to what their children are eating. This article should be exposed for what it is, ignorance.

“A good example here would be tactical aircraft modernization where we’re building a Super Hornet for the Navy, planning build the F-35 for the Air Force Navy and Marine corps, completing the purchase of the F-22 program, using a lot more drone aircraft than we ever had before and modernizing munitions that are capable of fare more precise attacks than had ever been possible in human history,” said O’Hanlon. “That full range of modernization is arguably excessive.”

NO,it is not.

sorry ‚Williams C ‚I said the same,did not see your post.

No problem. Arguably we’ve overreached with the F-35 and are trying to make that aircraft do much. Now they want to do every more with one design! They need to read up on the F-111.

USA will make the war against all the world?
USA have industry and technology for build one great army if that’s necessary.
Can’t have one enormous army if you don’t have one big enemy with similar size.Or if you have the institution of the cold war.
You can cut the army budget by 3 and that don’t change the superiority of the country against all others.
In USA , many industry,many people, many money was make by military industry.They pay senator and have one political weight in foreign diplomacy.When this industry was going down, that’s all economy of USA who was in danger. And sometimes we need wars

No it doesn’t work that way. Cut the budget by 2/3 and you’ve got much smaller combat arms hardly capable of deploying globally. Plus you have no money left over for modernization and resetting the force. Since the end of the Cold War the force has been cut down in size enough. The best we can do is cut military aid, foreign bases, and large troop deployments in certain countries.

Good Morning Folks,

I would like to address the cut in troop strength to pre 9/11. The Navy and USAF have already made deep cuts so what is left are the ground forces. As soon as the demands of Iraq and Afghanistan level out the Army and Marine already have panned cuts in troops. The Army’s will amount to about 20% of force when all is said and done.

The reason for this, beside after wars that’s what is done, is that our ground forces are vastly different then they were before 9/11. The 3ID’s and the 1st. MEG that invaded Iraq in 2003 no longer exists. Technology has provided force multipliers and the tactics of the enemies we have and will be facing in the future present a tactical environment that requires less personal and more technology.

As for the other cuts I favor taking out programs vs. the Bush (41) 40% across the board cuts that left all the services hallowed out. The irony is that planned program cuts in 1991 would have provided for even larger cuts then were made.

BRAC was a great idea but they took out the wrong bases, politics were not suppose to play a part in the three BRAC’s but in the end it was only politics that determined what was to go and what stayed. I hope we don’t do that again. Some bases can be closed or consolidated but it should be accord to the needs of the military not the wheems of a congressman/woman thinking of reelection or personal gain.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

Agreed William C. Cut all military aid except for the aid going to current our areas of engagements ( Afghanistan, Iraq etc ). Close all but a few European bases ( keep a couple Air bases in Germany & the UK ) but either bring those troops home ( southern border ) or move them to the Pacific rim area. Stop our current funding levels for the UN ( we pay 80% ) drop those back to 15–20% and let the rest of the world pay there fair share of the bill. The same goes for NATO. Europe is cutting their military’s to unprecedented levels counting on the US to pick up their slack. If we have to make such drastic reductions in spending, that’s were we need to make the cuts from. Not from our equipment upgrades or modernization of our forces , or our troop strength. Let Europe fend and Pay for it self for awhile, and see if after we start pulling out our bases if they reconsider stripping their military’s down to their current planned reductions.

In light of DADT and many other initiatives aggressively pushed by the state, Christians must consider if we can continue to actively support the state. The policies of the government are to promote the idea that moral order does not derive from God but from simple consensus enforced by coercion and threats.

Consequently our entire society is experiencing an active campaign to undermine traditional standards derived from Christian traditions arguing that those traditions lack authority.

Fundamentally we have reached or are nearing the point where the American state is an advocate of Anti-Christ, in the most traditional meaning of the term: “Against Christ”.

Soldier who remain in service will soon be forced to undergo “re-education” if their Christian beliefs come in conflict with acceptance of homosexuality as a legitimate lifestyle choice. In the new army, tolerance with disapproval will not be tolerated. You will be forced to confess with your mouth that homosexuality is not sin.

Soldiers of conscience should investigate applying for discharge under the “Conscientious Objector” process. Concerned citizens should contact their representatives and ask for a new program within the DADT process to allow soldiers of conscience to separate from service without prejudice and with benefits intact.

http://​www​.fas​.org/​i​r​p​/​d​o​d​d​i​r​/​a​r​m​y​/​a​r​6​0​0​-​4​3​.​pdf

Good Afternoon Folks,

Although the statement by danf has nothing to do with the topic I think it still needs comment.

I don’t remember anything in the oath I took when I went into the Army about supporting Christian beliefs, I do remember something about the Constitution.

If Christians find they can’t support the Constitution and those who give their lives to defend the Constitution and the laws of the land perhaps the would be happier some other place that gives priority to there silly mythology. The United States is the sum total of all of its people regardless of their religion, sexual preferences, national origin or any other preconditions.

To Christians who believe in a misguided religion that preaches its own god given superiority and can not accept others on equal terms I say what Clerence Thomas said when Liberals were critical of him being on the Supreme Court, “Deal with it, I intend to be here a looooog time”.

Another time and another place got right: America love it or Leave it.”

“That he which has no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart: his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put in his purse,
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.”

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

danf,
The United States was founded on the premise that ALL men (and women) are created equal. Our Founding Fathers were smart enough to NOT create a link with any religion. In fact, most of the Founding Fathers were practicing Free Masons and open to the idea of moral virture, but not associated with any specific religion. Similar to their farsighted view not to authorize a standing army and navy (based on seeing what happened in Europe) because they would bankrupt the country, they took a similar view on religion. Today, and to me, that viewpoint has been validated. Science has opened the door to understanding that we all start out as female, and males occur when the X chromosome alters that status. So, why, on occassion, wouldn’t some of those female genes carry over into the male? Resulting is a phyiscal male with female disposition? Or females linking to females and males to males? Its biology, not religion. Or do you wang us to go back to the Inquisition?

By the same token, those who swear to the constitution do not need to have their personal freedoms infringed upon by those who say they have to support a very minority lifestyle. That’s the whole crux of the situation. According to you, the Constitution has to support that lifestyle, but it doesn’t say a damn thing about sexual preference, just the right to practice religion, And that is all the People who support DADT are doing.
So you are against people practicing thier religions freedom, AND inserting new verbiage in the Constituion. A new low.

I still believe in the F-35 and the RAAF used the F-111 until a year ago.Every new system have growing pains​.Do not believe every thing that Bill Sweetman said.

Good Evening Folks,

Hi El Gato. There are a lot of things that my tax payers dollars go to that I disagree with, one being keeping serial adulterous politicians on the payroll. I would much prefer that my tax money go to the salaries of a Gay/Lesbian workers in monogamous caring relationship then the sexual predators who always seem to keep coming back election after election.

But I’m not asked so I have to put up with the low lifes we have in elected office.

Yes El Gato the Constitution by not ‚mentioning it, says we have to have a place for these people who have life styles you object to.

Second the Constitution does not guarantee religious freedom, it only says that the Federal Government can not establish a state religion. So what does that have to do with DADT, the last I saw human sexuality was NOT a religion expect perhaps in South Carolina.

In fact I still have an offer of a $100.00 to anybody who can find me a Puritan Wedding script dated before 1630. Puritan Boston didn’t even recognize civil unions till 1639 and then it was a scheme to collect fees. Marriage is not a Christian institution, either Protestant or Catholic.

Since I’m an agnostic El Gato I couldn’t care less about any religion. It’s all just simple answers for problems that simple people can’t accept nor understand. And before you go off a prove to every body that you haven’t a clue of what an atheist is. I graduated for a Methodist College and know quite a bit more about the topic, a lot more then most so Christians do.

ALLONS,

Byron Skinner

All men and women being created equal and being recognized as equal under the law doesn’t excuse whatever decisions those individuals choose to make in their lives. This must apply to our thinking when it comes to DADT. The good of the men and women fighting on the front lines must be put before the “politically correct” opinion. Despite the claims of the pro-gay crowd, this is nothing like race and many African American men and women serving would be the first to tell you that.

If it’s all biological and genetic as is the common view these days why should it be anything more than tolerated? Why don’t we allow medical technology to advance to the point where children can be treated prior to birth to remove the risk of such conditions developing and remove some of the risk of certain cancers or other disease occurring?

There is no article in the Constitution protecting the “you didn’t ask but I’m going to tell” types that will plague our armed forces for some time. They’re is no article affording them special rights and privileges. If a soldier behaves in a manner which makes his fellow soldiers uncomfortable, he shouldn’t be in the service. What somehow makes these individuals more valuable than the men and women serving who believe such behavior to be immoral?

Silly mythology? Perhaps you would have been happier in the oh so accepting Soviet Union if they still existed? It wasn’t there fault people who said things against the state had a habit of vanishing. Some of us still believe the United States is the world’s last, best hope. Compromising our moral values and embracing the leftist vielw of America as being everything that’s wrong with the world certainly isn’t what Lincoln pictured when he said those words. Homosexuals have the right to do whatever they want behind closed doors, the right to not be harmed due to their decisions, but they don’t have the right to have their views forced on others under the false flag of “acceptance” and “awareness.”

I would rather not have my tax dollars going to either of those Byron. If you want those politicians out maybe you should vote them out even if they have “experience” being politicians and “weight” in congress, or a D next to their name in your case.

The constitution affords them the same rights provided to everybody else. But nowhere does it say they shall have their values put before the rest of the population. The military had already allowed homosexuals to serve before this decision, and long before the DADT policy if they simply behaved with some discretion and common sense. And those homosexuals who did so should be commended for understanding that they, like all who serve must make personal sacrifices while in the uniform.

”Congress shall make no law establishing articles of faith, or a mode of worship, or prohibiting the free exercise of religion.” That wording used in one late draft is the most compatible with today’s English language, and the intentions are clear. It clearly protects freedom of religion.

Regarding marriage, early government attempts to regulate it were just that, a method of data collection and possibly some revenue. That doesn’t change the long standing concept of marriage. Gays can argue for civil unions, but there is no reason the publicly accepted definition of “marriage” should be changed for their sake.

Your dismissive view of people who have religious views doesn’t do yourself credit and makes your own agnostic views seem very shallow.

I’ll agree with you there. Bill Sweetman is hardly “objective” when it comes to the F-35 and some of his more recent statements seem hypocritical when you consider the some rumors about his neutrality. I am concerned about the F-35 program on many levels, but with enough determination, effort, and ingenuity I can believe we can get an aircraft we need out of it. Yet even so we need other designs like the F-22.

The F-111 found it’s niche as a interdiction / strike aircraft and did great in that role once some bugs were worked out. While the multi-role fighters that have replaced it are superior in many ways, they can’t match the big F-111 in range and some other categories. Yet it was never everything it was intended to be. It wasn’t the interceptor the Navy needed, and when McNamara offered it as a USAF interceptor in place of the F-12B, the USAF decided to abandoned dedicated interceptors instead.

I suppose that until now the U.S. Armed Forces always allowed some degree of interaction between their male and female soldiers and civilian staff members, even courting and marriage (at least within the same ranks or pay levels). Soo, with D.A.D.T. repealed and all of the U.S.A.‘s ABNORMALS allowed to
1) enlist,
2) show and shout around their perversions publicly (because now they may)
and
3) behaving accordingly in the open (“men” with high heels roaming around the base with their hands in each other’s trousers),
will the U.S. Armed Forces’ new freak-friendliness cover the transvestites, hermaphrodites and transexuals, too?

Lets get back to the topic. Should America assume more “risk” with its national security during the 2010–2020 era?
Assuming additional national security risk was a good thing to do after the Soviet Union imploded as the risks to our nation drastically fell. A holiday was in order.
How about now, risks rising or falling?
They are rising at a rapid rate.
American interests in Asia are being challenged by China on a daily basis. 10 years ago China couldn’t threaten American bases in Japan or Guam. Today each could be attacked by dozens, if not hundreds of missiles. How about in another 5 years?

10 years ago China had a Navy that was coastal in nature. Now she is launching a blue water navy with sophisticated nuclear powered vessels. An aircraft carrier is soon to be launched that will be a test bed for the real thing, probably within the next 10 years.

10 years ago, our carrier battle groups could operate and survive near China’s coast in a combat environment. Today they would risk annihilation should they need to try.

10 years ago China had no stealth aircraft at all. Today she is working towards fielding one.

10 years ago Iran was all about bluster. Today she is funding proxy forces from Venzuela to Afghanistan. She is using Russian, Chinese and North Korean technology to build nuclear weapons and IRBMS to ICBMS. Today we engage Iranian soldiers in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan while they are increasing their presence near our shores in Venzuela.

A decision to expose America to heighten military risk sounds great when we borrow 40% of our Federal budget. Our security environment doesn’t allow it though. Go ahead and kill off the poorly managed programs but its an illusion to think we’ll just save that money. It will need to go into new programs to counter the mounting threats we face. Reductions in Federal spending are coming, probably quite large too. We must hope they come from other poorly performing areas of the Federal portfolio, that portfolio spending 2 trillion on entitlements, 200 billion on interest payments and about 700 billion in non-defense spending.

To the poster “richardb”

You wrote: “Reductions in Federal spending are coming, probably quite large too. We must hope they come from (…) 200 billion on interest payments…”.

Brilliant idea: Just default, then lend again! (Gotta try this too, one day)

@ Byron. ’ Gay/Lesbian workers in monogamous caring relationship’. — what a joke. AIDs spread in homosexuals bc this is patently false and but part of liberal propaganda.

Note how anti-american, anti-Christian yet pro-homo and pro-Obama Byron skinner (aka BS) is.

Cut HUD Dpt of Ed and welfare for the obama voters than ask for cuts from the military. Leave it to leftists like BS to always do the reverse.

It explains so much.

Progressives delight in proclaiming that God is not mentioned in the Constitution.  But the Declaration of Independence does mention our Creator in the first two paragraphs along with the last.  Our Declaration is the why of what our Founding Fathers did.  The Constitution is the how.  The Declaration is the foundation, and the Constitution is the structure or framework of our government.  The Declaration is act one, and the Constitution is act two.  Both acts make for a viable construct.  Leave one or the other out, and the whole becomes incoherent.

Agreed. Also, MV-22 is dubious? EFV might be a waste, but the Osprey is showing strong promise and provides revolutionary capabilities. Triple the range of a helicopter, twice as fast, with VTOL capabilities.

Just so that we are clear about all of these matters, most Christians do not advocate a theocracy, although progressives delight in announcing otherwise.  It’s just that the liberal construct of “separation of church and state” has mutated into state-enforced atheism.  The First Amendment says, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof[.]”  It is about Congress!  Not the people!  It does not say that Christians cannot influence or be involved in government.  It does not say that God has to be removed from anything government has its tentacles in.  It does not say that the ACLU can remove a Christian symbol at will or with the threat of litigation.  Progressives have used the ruse of “separation of church and state,” which is not in the Constitution, to rabidly attack everything Christian.  Christians should have as much influence in our culture and on our government as anyone else.  Behind every law is some sort of value, and the source of that value is vital.

Now, here is another item of galactic importance in our Declaration.  Here is what it says: that men are “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights[.]”  Those rights, “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” are from God Himself, not from governments or government leaders.  So the Declaration is a most vital statement by the Founders.  The importance of this cannot be overemphasized.  To an atheist leader like obama Stalin, Lenin, Mao or Hitler, people have no God-given rights at all.

William, I think this is the one thing I’ve ever disagreed with you on. I don’t think allowing gays to serve as openly homosexual is forcing views upon others. Is letting a black man serve while it makes a Mormon man uncomfortable forcing the mormon serviceman to give up his beliefs? No. But if Mormons were the vast majority in America in place of Christians, then it would be considered as such. Is America the world’s last bastion of hope. Yes. Is DADT going to change that and push us over the slippery slope into a liberal cess pool of sodomy? Don’t think so.

If this repeal is shown to effect unit cohesion and combat effectiveness, I’m against it. But I think the troops can handle it.

But back on topic, O’Hanlon is right. We can accept a lot more risk given the immediate and near term threats. China is not coming after us. At most they want a blue water navy for the same reason we have one — to protect their sea-borne commerce. The Kagan’s are wrong. Our current forces are way oversized for what we need them for right now, and that includes the two-and-a-half wars (if you include western Pakistan) we are fighting. Using our entire Army, Marines and National Guard, nearly a million men and women, on a rotational basis (because its too much to ask them to go and fight until the job is done before coming home, like WW2) to fight maybe 10,000 insurgents! The Kagans are supporters of a perpetual war nation state. That’s dangerous to our democracy.

Since this conversation has gotten completely off topic, let me add this…why is it that we so easily accept the idea that “the creator” is a religious God figure? What if the creator is what many of the science-fiction/science-fact people believe? That our “creator” is an alien species from another planet that planted the seeds of life here millions of years ago when they were exploring?

And who created the aliens? (There are NO “aliens” in Space, never were!) Who created the Universe?

What a limited view of inifinity you have…

IMHO ‚The F-35 is the last of his kind. The need to replace the F-22 and F-35 will probably arise by 2040.SCRAMJET, pulse detonation engines ‚pulse wave engines,and DEW could be operational for that time​.In my humble opinion ‚a NGB and a prompt global strike make more sense that a new fighter.(Remember is only my opinion}

You people scare me more than the Muslims do.

States’ rights, kids, let’s move on down the road.

So you’re trying to argue that the government wouldn’t be able to gather data and/or fees from a gay marriage? I don’t think your argument holds water.

Are you saying that religion is religious, or not? If it is, should it be a function of government?

That train of thought disintegrates into noise too, though. Who created god? Why is it incomprehensible for something to come from nothing (or to have always been), unless that something is an omnipotent deity?

I’m afraid that that line of thinking falls into its own gravity well.

Do you honestly think that personnel don’t know who is and isn’t gay already? Give me a break.

Bill of course has never served but he’s more than happy to speak for those who have.

The professionals I know don’t care about the sexual orientation of their comrades.

I don’t know about the Marines, but to say that the 3ID from 2003 no longer exists is a little misleading. 3ID has roughly the same combat equipment that it had then. The biggest difference is that it is spread out among 4 Brigade Combat Teams (BCTs) instead of among 3 Brigades. There were also some CS/CSS changes, and the preferred deployment is now one BCT at a time, instead of a Division at a time, but deploying 4BCTs and the CAB at the same time is still doable, and puts the exact same equipment downrange.

Hitler put known and suspected homosexuals, as well as physically and mentally challenged people in concentration camps or had them killed. He and the Nazis strong-armed thier way into power, and forced their ideology on the remaining populaton with the threat of the same if they didn’t. The U.S. Gov’t is not doing anything close to that, but if people with your line of thought were in power, we probably wouldn’t be too far from doing those types of things I’m sure.

I disagree, but that is my opinion as you have yours as well. The politicians have strong armed thier beliefes on us for decades now placing burdens on us not backed by the constitution, they just want it and do it — folks that disagree with them are punnished faster and more severly than drug dealers and terrorist (birther trials are fast — terrorist trials take years though???). Our pres wont hold a day of prayer at the white house because he does not want to offend anyone but I was highly offended when he allowed and attended muslim prayer on the steps of the capitol where he claims has no place for religion or symbols. I have a gay brother, I dont hate him and have knocked quite a few down for trying to hurt him, he knows to keep his personal life to himself and not infringe on others beliefs. I love my country — I just dont like or trust my government any longer.

What? You don’t believe in sponstaneous combustion?

Look, I argued with my college professor who taught logic but was also a Christian. The idea of infinity is just that. End to end to end events with no beginning has no specific trigger event. And faith is just that. beliving what cannot posibley be true. Me. I feel science has helped enlighten us so we don’t need to believe in fairy tales. Man is only part of a lrager universe. Fear of the unknown should not translate into some “man in the sky” who has all the answers. And war is a sad reflection that we have no made much progress either.

That might be taking it too far. The government serves a useful purpose. But over the last 50 years it has gone rogue, and democrats and republicans have been complicit, if not intentionally directing the power shift. After all, those in power and who want power always find a way to screw those without it or who they fear (the people).

Well, if they start rounding people up they have on a list, I’ll head for the hills. Unitl then I’m not too worried about it. I think a lot of people are overreacting to things that aren’t directly affecting their immediate lives is all. What burdens are they pushing, and who exactly is being punished for it?

Burdens — how about increasing our debt, over taxation, user fees to hide taxes, health care, extended wars, over extending aid to countries who dont like anything about us other than our money, control of our borders against illegals that we have to fund, infringing on our rights to keep and carry arms as often as they can. The government in whole is disfunctional and only out to push personal agendas. They ignore the fact that 75% of the population earns less than 60K a year per house hold but that inflation has raised the cost of the average home above 150K and cars 30K, The govt is doing nothing to fix any of this and only making it all worse.

Ok, I understand and agree with that, but what beliefs do you think are being strong-armed on us and by whom?

Depending on who you ask there are many — Me I dislike the fact that our government is taking away the religious freedoms of the majority of the population of the US (i.e. Christianity) on which our nation was founded under (mentioned over & over again in our founding documents), declaring it unconstitutional for christian symbols of faith to be public or mentioned in schools or federal government buildings — these same individuals who swore so help me God when taking office say we have to be quiet so as not to offend muslims, scientologist, and atheist who are allowed to openly display thier beliefs; It’s not right to me considering we were here first, established our country and laws, they have no right to come in a demand superiority over us when we could be put to death doing it in thier countries. How about thier trying to back door the 2nd ammendment by signing a UN treaty making it illegal for civilians to own fire arms because they havent been able to suceed at it through our courts in all states.

Having to finally share your privileged status with other US citizens is NOT ‘taking away the religious freedom of the majority’, and if you can find even one reference to Jesus Christ or Christianity in either the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, I’d like to see it. Are all you right-wingers like the guy below?
http://​www​.theonion​.com/​a​r​t​i​c​l​e​s​/​a​r​e​a​-​m​a​n​-​p​a​s​s​ion…

And you say that Christians were ‘here first’? Hmm…So what you’re telling me is that what the Book of Mormon says is historically accurate, right? Cuz if you ain’t, I figure that there are a lot of pagan and animist Native Americans who will beg to differ with your preposterously ignorant claim. ‘Here first’, indeed…

BTW, who exactly is trying to sign UN treaties to take away your guns?

JL

Yeah we took this land from the Native Americans, name a nation that was not built on blood. I dont much care for the book of mormons or thier beliefes of being demi or living gods based on thier place within thier church. The declaration of independence mentions god and the creator more than once. Clinton and Obama are both pursuing UN weapons treatys and gun control santions. The constirution gives us the right to religious freedoms so why are we being suppressed. HOW DO YOU FIGURE I’M PRIVLEGED, I bust my buns for what I make, drive old cars, and rent my home, My shopping cart is never as full as the food stamp clingers driving almost new vehicles 90% of the time.

Good points. I suggest you get together with the like-minded to find a suitable tract of land for your theocracy. Somewhere FAR away from here…

What is so difficult about keeping your religious beliefs to yourself? We are a secular, constitutional republic. Take a civics class…

Here is question I task you all: Why is the BAE / IVECO MPC project is continuously being pushed back?

Read more: http://​www​.dodbuzz​.com/​2​0​1​0​/​1​2​/​2​7​/​t​h​e​-​t​o​p​-​d​e​f​e​nse…

I think exactly the same. Maybe if DOD dealt directly with the Builder, Iveco, and left the BIG Defence Vampire, BAE, out of it then something would get done.

There were a lot of weird things in Skinner’s post. He normally goes after high tech programs, but here he turns around and says, “High tech is the wave of the future, cut personnel’. And O’Hanlon didn’t make much sense, either…the goal is to maintain our ability to project power, but you defund early entry (aka amphibious assault). ‘Tis self-evident nonsense; irrespective of the goodness or badness of specific programs, the missions stay the same.

I would hope that we didn’t need to revisit the strategic concepts of Alfred Thayer Mahan here. The “fleet in being” is a necessary part of our deterrent strategy. It is also the foundation for our ability to project power onto the Eurasian landmass. You won’t find a word in either Mahan or Clausewitz or Jomini about “accepting risk”. That is strategic gobbledygook invented by civilian strategists of the McNamara line who think managing the Department of Defense is like managing an auto company.

One does not need to be religious in any sense to understand the Clausewitzian “trinity” — state, army, and people. A state and an army that does not reflect the moral sensibilities of the people is weakened thereby. There are plenty of people on these boards who will play mind games with these topics, but there aren’t that many atheists in the fox hole, are there ? We try to send out young men and women with the best armament and the best training possible. But to ignore their spiritual formation and to disarm them morally is a great hazard to their well being and to our Commonwealth.

The “Tea Party Radicals” are not anti-defense, far from it. They’re anti-OFFENSE. They often refer to the DOD as the “Department of Offense” because they see the military being sent abroad to defend “interests” rather than actually providing defense for the continental US. And they have a point on many issues. I think they’re right that we’re headed towards becoming a modern Rome, constantly fighting wars of empire. That’s certainly not a fate for the US that I want.

Taxpayer, you have no proof whatsoever that homosexuality is a biological cause. None. No one has ever found such a link… genetic, chemical, anything, in decades of searching.

So suggesting that the country is becoming hostile to Christianity = Theocracy? Really?

China is defeating us economically with its low cost manufacturing. We must start taxing the foreign products with a national sales tax instead of taxing Americans with income, Social Securiy and Medicare taxes.

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