US Got Little From Chinese Visit

US Got Little From Chinese Visit

Over the last half year, China’s military has carefully unveiled its J-20 stealth airplane, threatened US ships and hosed them down, discussed plans for an aircraft carrier and boasted of their being equals with the US on the global stage. Now we hear from respected naval expert Norman Polmar that the PLAN has successfully tested a submarine launched ballistic missiles for the first time. In light of all this, we asked the Heritage Foundation’s Dean Cheng, one of Washington’s most respected Chinese military analysts, to give us some idea of what actually happened during the recent visit of President Hu Jintao and what it means for them and for us. His title says it all: Hu Came and All I Got Was a Joint Statement.

Now that the visits of US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates to China and President Hu Jintao to the United States, the question that naturally comes to mind is what, if anything, has changed in US-China security relations.

Much ballyhooed was the announcement that the United States and the PRC had initialed an agreement for a jointly financed nuclear security center. While, certainly, anything that reduces the possibility of nuclear materials falling into the wrong hands is to be welcomed, one has to wonder whether China was ever the most likely source of nuclear materials, compared with North Korea or Pakistan.


Indeed, if there were genuine interest in limiting vulnerable nuclear materials, one might have expected the Chinese to be willing to forego their planned sale of two new nuclear reactors to Pakistan, but there is no evidence that the US-China summits addressed this issue, much less reached such a conclusion.

Beyond this agreement, it’s even harder to identify any developments that would make either of these meetings especially memorable. Secretary of Defense Gates had indicated that he wanted to emplace dialogue on four topic areas: nuclear weapons, cyber security, outer space, and missile defense. The Chinese rebuffed him on all four (although, to be fair to Beijing, there is nothing that prevents either side from raising these issues in the ongoing S&ED talks).

For the presidential summit, the achievements are even more limited. Apparently after much wrangling between the US and Chinese sides, consuming much of the working-level efforts, a paragraph was included on North Korea (paragraph 18 of the Joint Statement). That the statement actually acknowledges North Korean uranium reprocessing is seen as a landmark achievement—as though North Korea itself had not displayed its reprocessing efforts to visiting American scientists even prior to the summit.

The Obama administration has also indicated that it welcomes China’s improved willingness to take North Korea to task, but thus far, there is little evidence that China has accepted the international verdict that it was the North Koreans who sank the South Korean frigate Cheonan, or criticized Pyongyang for its shelling of a South Korean island, killing both military personnel and civilians.
Ultimately, less attention on the state of US-Chinese security relations was generated by the summit than by two Chinese weapons tests that effectively book-ended the summits. The first was the test flight of a prototype J-20 stealth fighter. That test garnered significant attention, both because of the timing (being tested on the eve of Secretary of Defense Gates’ visit), and because it seemed to belie rosy predictions that China would not be fielding a fifth generation fighter for at least a decade.

And there are now reports that China has finally tested the JuLang-2 (JL-2) submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM). Long in development, the JL-2, with its 5000 mile range, would give China’s nuclear arm much greater reach. With up to five of the new Type 094 nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) entering service, the combination of new subs and new missiles would give China a substantially more secure second-strike capability than it has hitherto enjoyed. But it would also mark a significant expansion of China’s nuclear weapons force, which had previously fielded less than a score of long-range ICBMs capable of reaching the United States.
All of which suggest that President Hu will be handing to his successor, Xi Jinping, in the 2012 succession, a much more robust People’s Liberation Army (PLA). It will be a PLA which will have the modern weapons, and arguably the associated doctrine and trained soldiers, sailors, and airmen, to fight Local Wars Under Modern, Informationalized Conditions.

One wonders how much time, amidst the haggling over the wording of the US-China Joint Statement, the American side took to think about that?

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Should we had expected anything more. This was just another waste of tax payers money funding this trip and all the trimming that came with it. At least the Bears didnt make it to the super bowl or we would have been out another couple of billions in taxpayers money to fund the whitehouse trip to Dallas to cheer on the home team as well.

No Surprise e — Barry Obama sucking up and appeasing his ChiComm buddies did not thing but embolden their (and Barry’s) Anti-American Sentiments and actions.

The Chicomms still hold the 2010 Nobel Winner in their Gulag and Barry did nothing of course… her

Jimmy carter + Black + Muslim = barry hussein obama

Obama continues to Reward America’s enemies and punish America’s friends — just as taught by his GD America pastor of 20 years…

He excuses the Iranian regime as they shoot protesters in the street then throws Mubarak under the bus to help his Muslim Brotherhood fellow travelers…

(Don’t expect BS byron to notice this trend as he continues to flak for his man child president irrespective of the continued evidence of his Anti-West Anti-American policies)

Ah yea Chinese taxpayers money. But on the other hand the Chinese have gone on a buying spree recently — time to inspect some of the purchases.

To bust Russia, all we had to do was stop selling them wheat (rather than outspend them for Pentagon toys). To stop (or slow down) China, stop going to Walmart, stop buying Chinese made textiles, stop buying Chinese made furniture, stop buying name-brand electronics with Chinese parts (half the parts in Japanese and Korean stuff also have Chinese parts). Stop expecting your government to give you all those entitlements (paid for with the recycled Walmart dollars flowing back from China). We’re BROKE, and better start acting like it, or we really will be a third world nation. Don’t cringe over a few Chinese missiles and submarines. We have been scaring the world like that for the last two decades, and we can’t afford it anymore.

Can’t afford what? To cringe over Chinese missiles and submarines, or to build our own? The Chinese will be modernizing their military regardless of what we do. Yet if we just stop caring about our military, we are shooting ourselves in the foot.

Well Jim I guess you sort of forget that it was the ultimate conservative George W Bush that got into this loving relationship, where the snap their fingers and we dance. We are so deep into debt to them we will never pay it off. Thanks GOP

We need to stop doing business with the Chinese. It will hurt in the short term but it will hurt even more long term.

We have plenty of military toys compared to the rest of the world. The problem is that we pay too much for stuff that often doesn’t work as advertised. Plus our tactics are often flawed. Iraqi “surge”. Just another name for what we called “escalation” in Vietnam. Generals ALWAYS wat more troops in theater. Sometimes it works; sometimes it doesn’t. Despite what we want to believe, Iraq will break apart in less than 5 years. All we did was rearm two enemies. China? You don’t go to war with your biggest trading partner.

Well, the can be no USA these days without Chinese taxpayers money. We now owe them more than we actually have left of our own.

Military gear however does get old, outclass, and worn out. Which is a reason we keep developing and building new stuff. The Virginia SSNs for example are supposed to replace many of the older Los Angeles class boats (with the exception of the 688i class).

This was more about the Chinese reminding us NOT TO monitize the debt we owe the Chinks for our runaway spending. When you consider the interest we pay to the Chinese… WE are paying for a considerable chunk of their defense spending!

Maybe the Chinese will start manufatcuring all US weapons for the DOD in a deal struck by the new
communist president.

Nice comment way to generalize.

We all should remember that the United States cannot bite the hands that feed us, stimulus funds and Chinese imported goods…etc.
God Bless the United States,

Liberals who support obama just can’t get over that he is the first anti-American affirmative action president.

Yeah Right BS. To Leftist fellow travelers Barry and Hu don’t like each other. Both seek to contain and reduce the power of the USA.

Remember the Zero sum game we learned from the Japanese Mitsubihi Zero in 1941.

The Chinese hold about 800 billion in US treasuries. Our entire national debt is about 5 trillion. Our annual GDP is about 14 trillion. They hold a lot of our debt but not THAT much. I wish we would encourage our businesses to open factories in the Philipines, Indonesia and other “cheap labor” countries so we don’t keep feeding the beast called China. What prevents us is business’s short term outlook. To it’s credit, Intel has factories in Malaysia and the Philipines. Other companies can do the same with a little leadership or tax incentive from the top.

i second that. Heritage doesn’t know what they are talking about. They do provide Rush with his talking points. I think Rush can read „, at least surf the web on that big screen computer he has when he is not hawking merchandise to the rednecks.

DEAN CHENG says that US got very little — A fair comment? Obviously NO!!!

i) China allowed US to have a peek on her J-20 and her nuclear missile controlled centred during Gates
visitation. A small step but a very big concession and openess on the part of China

ii) At this time, CHINA could have played a hard game to her advantageous in therm of economic strength.
Instead CHINA went on a buying spree during President Hu resulting that America had created more than
300, 000 of new jobs and increase American competitiveness in the world market. An indeed great
good-will indeed

iii) China had promised to continue to rein-in North Korea. Is fault-finding and finger-pointing be a solution to
North-South detente??? Afer all no clear evidence especially the Chenon point to the North and the
shelling is as a result of imminent and acceptable preceived threats by the North of her southern
neighbour.

The result President Hu is clear for everyone to see. Currently both North and South Korea meet at
Panjumon Villiage in the DMZ to trash out whatever problems both faced in a good and sincere spirit. Isn’t
that not a great achievement worthy of a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE?

iv) That sale of nuclear reactors to Pakistan is for power-geberating purpose, just like the deal US with India.
It had nothing to do with nuclear proliferation. After all, Pakistan on her own right is a new kid on the
nuclear club!

v) CHINA is currently the world largest exporter and in less than 2 decades larger than American economy.
Meaning a lot of goods and services moving all over the world that need to be protected. Currently
American had more than 10 Nimitz-size aircraft carriers and a fleet of first grade subs and warship, not
mentioning cutting edge F-22,

Shouldn’t right thinking CHINA be concerned about her security and welfare on this ground alone???

Really now, did anyone with an oz. of brains, know the Western gets NOTHING from the Oriental, if it deals with their being top dog.…They will out fox a Western at all stages of discussions, and diplomacy. When the hell are our officals, in government, going to learn this cold fact??? If ever????

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