The F-35B prepares to get its feet wet

The F-35B prepares to get its feet wet

They’re taking baby steps, but slowly and surely, engineers at Naval Air Station Pax River, Md. are getting the Marines’ F-35B Lightning II ever closer to the first time it will operate in the venue for which it was designed: A U.S. Navy amphibious ship.  According to this week’s announcement from Naval Air Systems Command, workers are figuring out how they’ll chock and chain a Lightning II on a flight deck, and so far, so good.

[…] F-35 integrated test force personnel used weights to simulate shipboard padeyes during an evaluation of chain down procedures on F-35B test aircraft BF-1. The team observed no points of interference and identified ways to optimize aircraft jacking techniques. Padeyes are used on ships to secure equipment to the deck during various sea states.

For non-naval readers, these are little structures built into the flight deck that give sailors flexibility about where and how to park aircraft. When a fighter jet isn’t flying, shooting off the bow or coming in for a landing — or in the hangar bay getting fixed — it’s usually chained in place with the other jets in the squadron. Not as exciting as a dogfight, but figuring out how the Lightning II will work as part of a ship’s pattern at sea, even just sitting parked, is an important part of eventually getting it out there.


Everything about flying the brand-new F-35B on decades-old ships is going to require this kind of careful thought. For example, naval aviation types worry that the jet blast from the engine during vertical landings could do a lot of damage to the flight deck, necessitating a lot of maintenance. The unhappy precedent for this was the MV-22 Osprey, which throws out so much heat it can warp the deck over the course of a deployment; some ships use jerry-rigged “hot plates,” big metal pads, set under the Osprey’s engines to protect the deck if the birds need to idle for a long time.

Planners also have wondered whether the B’s jet blast will be so powerful it blows antennae off a ship’s superstructure, or disrupts sensors or other equipment set up along the deck edge. Maybe, officials acknowledge, but this is why we’re testing it, they say — and why we’re taking our time. When the F-35B makes its first test flights aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Wasp later this year, the Navy and Marines will get some real-world lessons, possibly expensive ones, in how to best configure the big-deck gators to handle the new aircraft.

It’s not as simple as just flying aboard in a new helicopter, but the Pentagon brass say when they’ve got all the kinks out, it’ll be worth it — Marine officials like to boast that the F-35B will double the number of U.S. capital ships, given that gators will be able to handle advanced jets very like the ones that fly off nuclear carriers.

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Outstanding. The USMC is counting on this capability.

Any bets Barry obama’s new pet political hack panetta will work to undermine it ?

Think how many could have been built for the $11 billion wasted on government motors.

The JSF Program was cancelled last week. The rational was $100,000,000.00 cost overrun, 15 year development, poor software and OFP configuration, no connectivity or interoperability with any other platform, no internal Air-Air Weapon e.g. 20MM, high logistics cost per flight hour, no-capability to take out high value targets, e.g. bridges without hanging external pylons, no stealth capability due to high threat IADS and Aircraft RADAR OFP that can Find, Fix, and shoot down stealth platforms. I suppose the folks in Texas will not give up. This is a Dead Platform. Time to purchase something new. This PIG is dead. Scrap Metal.

Cannot wait to see JSF and the rest of these useless overpriced platforms Cancelled and the corpse being towed to the front Gate of your local base with an “Eye Beam” Shoved up its augmenter, all the way to the XXXXPIT. I think then and only then, will this put an end this “Black Hole Funding” and decisively drive a stake in the heart of this this “Warlock” or “Demon Seed” Program once and for ALL. In fact maybe our widows, veterens, will be given the healthcare they deserve. The DOD stated that they would rater cut the VA Healthcare system than defund some of these systems that are cancelled. Well, if the DOD cannot take care of their obligations with the Men and Women that have sacrified everything, then what the hell are we doing as a nation. JSF and F-22 are out dated stealth is dead and everyone knows this is correct. However, Congress and the DOD, cannot even take care of making sure the Hero’s buried at Arlington National Cemetery are in the correct location and not shoveled in the corner of the cemetery in a dirt mound. DO you have faith in this SYSTEM?

A few, but quite loud group of conspiracy theorists around the web has found something to complain about, namely the F-35 program. The truth is that this jet is a game changer in every way. It has phenomenal performance considering is carries its weapons and fuel onboard, something these people can’t seem to get into their heads. It also has an unmatched sensor suite to go. Everything stated in the post above is nonsense.

build new harrier, that’s better, old but no prob

Who’s cheering?

(I mean except Lockheed Martin and its Shill-in-Chief, “William C.”)

Haters gonna hate. Even the dumb ones.

What we should really be building is more P-51s. “Old but no prob”

Anybody with more than three braincells. I guess that means *you’re* not cheering.

India, an emerging, nuclear-armed Super-Power with the second-biggest population and the third-biggest Armed Forces in the World may still choose to buy more “Eurofighters” than you have F-22s (full technology transfer and future capability expansions granted in advance),

1) while you’re about to receive the first “F-$$s” (shoot yourself),

and

2) while your Anglo cousins will soon have either no carrier aircraft, or no aircraft carrier, or even no Navy at all

and

3) while even your Aussie cousins, who “guard” both the Indian Ocean AND the Southern Pacific for you, only got decrepit F-18s from you,

and I’m the one with “less than three brain cells” here because I’m not cheering? OK, I confess: I’m cheering. I like the grand picture unfolding before me…

Let’s cheer together!

You must be another brainless/birther (oxymoron).

No it wasn’t canceled. Please get your facts right.

Of course FFB doesn’t like the idea of the F-35 program succeeding, because if it does it could spell the end of his beloved Rafale and Eurocanards.

And I’ve always stated my support of continued F-22 production and development, plus the NGB and other programs.

To the poster “William C.”

You wrote: “Of course FFB doesn’t like the idea of the F-35 program succeeding, because if it does it could spell the end of his beloved Rafale and Eurocanards.”

Let it be known to everybody that the Sukhoi / HAL FGFA ( = the Indian-Russian PAK-FA) is scared to death of any F-$$s!

Please reserve the Neo-Liberal talk for the Wapo boards.

I thought the neo liberal schtick was BS Byron’s from the transgender stall of media matters?

Following your logic, you must be another racist wingnut.

Maybe they will have a new launch bar when it goes to the boat. Apparently the first one was sized incorrectly, but hey it’s cost plus so just pay for it again… Can’t wait to hear what other surprises are found.

Wrong again dimwit. The harrier is loaded with problems.

That’s funny because the Bravo doesn’t even have a launch bar.

For those too dim to realize, my previous launch bar comment was realitive the F-35C not the F-35B. The fit check was at PAX and it showed that the launch bar was too short to engage the shuttle. The point is that if something as simple as that is screwed for ship suitability, what else is. The same folks that screwed that up did the B model too and we know that the B model has its share of problems to fix.

That’s wht they call it test and evaluation, there, captain. Next time try being a little bit more specific.

Thanks Dim

No prob Wit

Hope it all goes well! The corps needs it very much, SEMPER FI.

TARP wasted our children’s children’s future on not just Government Motors, but Goldman-Sschs, Fannie & Freddie, GE, ACORN and a dozen other Marxist-inspired knives in the back of the Republic.

National Trade-In Day is November 2, 2012.

Have a program, commit to it, and stay the course. The F-35 is a good bird and was designed to fill a number of tasks. The bean counters told the services that they could have one new fighter. The F-35 was the aircraft selected. Now some of the same folks have gotten cold feet? This is not the 1950s or 1960s when we had multiple fighter programs running. The F-35 is what we have…Go whine elsewhere.

Aygree completely!

The Brits had a Super Harrier design long ago designated P.1154 (IIRC). Their government in office then killed it. No real reason. The AV-8B+ Harrier II was about 90% of the projected capability of the deferred P.1154. The P.1154 is essentially the JSF. Weird, huh?

Why does the USMC need stealth for close air-ground support? Its not like nobody would know they were there and where are they going to hang all the CBUs, iron bombs and 2.75 s that help the grunts? You dont need 35 mil platform to deliver fire suppression. TERs are not stealthy but they do carry a lot of ordinance.

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