Analysts urge U.S. stay the course on Pakistan

Analysts urge U.S. stay the course on Pakistan

American and Pakistani officials don’t trust each other. Pakistan supports militant extremist groups. And it may well have knowingly harbored Osama bin Laden for years — or at least chosen not to search for him too diligently. Yet a panel of foreign policy experts told a House panel on Tuesday that Pakistan is too important an ally for the U.S. to abandon, although they differed on the next steps Washington should take.

In the aftermath of bin Laden’s death in a mansion in a suburb of Pakistan’s capital, congressional lawmakers are questioning whether it’s worth continuing to pay billions of dollars to Pakistan’s military and intelligence agencies, given that they’re apparently riven with duplicity. House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Rep. Peter King, a New York Republican, said elements within Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence Agency have “a dual loyalty” to their American allies and to the extremist groups that Pakistan has created to use as proxies against Afghanistan and India. Even if Pakistan doesn’t directly fund or control the terror groups — which it may — its lassaiz-faire approach means they could pose a danger to the U.S. and its allies.

King pointed out that this relationship has been broken for a long time: Back during the Clinton administration, he said, American officials told Pakistan the U.S. would attempt to destroy the al Qaeda training camp where bin Laden was believed to be staying, and asked for permission for American cruise missiles to pass overhead. It was granted. The attack took place, but bin Laden was no longer at the camp, and King made clear that he believed Pakistani intelligence may have tipped off al Qaeda. The situation improved after the 2001 terrorist attacks, he acknowledged, and said that, all told, the U.S. had gotten enough benefit from working with Pakistan that it outweighed the other recent drawbacks and complications.


One way Washington can mend its relationship with Islamabad is by quickly trying to dispel two commonly held beliefs in southwest Asia, said Fred Kagan, an analyst with the American Enterprise Institute: First, that the U.S. isn’t committed to remaining engaged in the region and will abandon Afghanistan and Pakistan, as it did after the failed Soviet invasion of the 1980s. Second, that all the U.S. cares about is bin Laden, and that aid and engagement will disappear once he’s out of the picture. Now that he is, officials need to say privately and publicly that neither myth is true, and continue to work with Afghanistan and Pakistan even as American troops begin to come home, Kagan said. Still, he acknowledged that healthy cooperation will take years of work and patience.

“I think we’re a long way from trust on Pakistan,” he said. “It’ll be a long way before they trust us or we trust them given the nature of our relationship.”

 

 

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“Stay the course” — Osama would have wanted it that way.

The only reason this mission succeeded was; the Pakistani’s had not been briefed. Had we briefed the Pakistani military and or ISI, bin laden would have been gone and ambush waiting. There is no separation of church and state in muslim countries, making them unreliable.

Lets think this through. Pakistan is an authoritarian country where the police regularly check the passports of people staying in hotels. The government knows who is where — privacy is not a right. Someone builds a big, guarded mansion — the police know that. They do NOT know who lives there, must not be a government figure however!! So they tip the CIA.

Of course Pakistan tipped us and sat back while we watched the place. The Pakistani police probably had a big dinner that evening — strangely no one was near the compound when the US helicopters came by? The Pakistani air defenses missed the incoming helicopters?

The Pakistani government tipped us, allowed us to come in and get out safely.

Maybe so, but this is also interesting: http://​defensetech​.org/​2​0​1​1​/​0​5​/​0​3​/​s​e​c​r​e​t​-​h​e​l​o​-​may…

If anyone doesnt believe that Pakistan isnt the enemy and was harboring Osama, do you find it coincidental that an al-Qa’ida-linked Indonesian militant was captured in Abbottabad in January 2011 but details were not released until last month (because the US had intel as far back as August that OBL was there). Funnily enough, about this time Pakistan wanted US intel and SpecOps out of the country — http://​www​.npr​.org/​2​0​1​1​/​0​4​/​1​4​/​1​3​5​3​9​9​6​7​0​/​u​-​s​-​p​a​kis…

WHY? Because they knew there was a risk to OBL and the US was getting close.

Therefore the US should continue with the old adage — keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

A number of commentators have noted that right to the end Osama degraded America. Buy killing and unarmed man and his wife instead of capturing him and putting him on trial we yet again showed to the world what our core values really are.

That’s right “An eye for an eye”, he got better than he deserved. The pakis are not trust worthy and never have been — They have been screaming for us to pull SPECWAR — INTEL — and drones out of pakistan for a long time now because they didnt want us to find anything. Save the dollar and let them fold on their own, we dont have to be a friend to keep them from using their nukes.

Osama was armed when he was euthanized. He had all of his mental faculties intact until he was instantly “Disarmed” of his most terrifying weapon by our Spec ops guys. That “Weapon” was that sack of wet leather he called a brain. He has been eliminated and the terrorists of the world have one less arsehole to listen to anymore. To raise the issue of whether that m***** f***** was armed or not is a liberal media opinion to raise the ire of intelligent people.

The world owes our military yet another big thanks for their duty and perseverance.

Osama did not warrant a trial. He was a base sociopath who was finally put down like the rabid dog he truly was and for anyone to think that he was a good human being only illustrates their complete ignorance to the facts.

And yet all of our assets are still there, think about it, did they ever do anything? ever?
How hard would it be to shoot down a Predator with an F-16? I am sure we deconflict the airspace so it is not like it would be hard to find. For that matter, they are flying from airfields inside Pakistan! If they really didn’t like it, just escort our people to the nearest border crossing.
Look at Wikileaks, notice how many times that the public pronouncements do not match the government actions. If Pakistan ratted out OBL, do they have any incentive to say they did? Do they have incentive to blame the Americans and wring their hands?
Not saying they told us, but if they did, the government of Pakistan certainly wouldn’t want us to say anything about their help, and for a variety of reasons, we wouldn’t want to mention them either.

As I said a degraded America.

Nice moderation of my comment which has now been picked up by media about Pakistans ‘loyalty’.

We need to see some results from Pakistan. I think for a billion dollars we should at least have a quota of 100 bona fide terrorists handed over to the US per month from Pakistan. I suspect, given the political culture of the area (unimpeded, ridiculously obvious corruption), that there is much more pockets being filled than terrorist hunting parties being formed. Just my 2 cents.

Pakinstan better walk the straight and narrow…Or we might unleash there Hindu neighbors.

Dam those Pakistani nukes. The leverage it gives them.We have to convince Pakistan,that their nukes don’t phase us,and if they don’t start playing ball…ect. etc. ect. May-be i’m wrong…But these mid-east nations understand force. Gently persuade then ramp it up.

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