Navy: F-35C exceeding test goals

Navy: F-35C exceeding test goals

Naval Air Systems Command would like to remind you that the F-35C Lightning II is doing just terrific, thank you so much. NavAir announced Tuesday that its C-model test jets are meeting or beating their test goals for this year, and the Navy’s new jet is on the glide slope for the next phase of testing.

Announced NavAir:

As of May 11, F-35C test aircraft CF-1 currently at Naval Air Station Patuxent River has completed 36 test flights, nearly half of the program’s goal for the year of 85.“CF-1’s been flying well, even with a number of planned and unplanned maintenance periods,” said U.S. Marine Corps Col. Roger Cordell, military site director. “It’s a great sign for the fleet that the aircraft is doing well so early in the test program.”


In April, CF-1 completed 13 flights, tying a record for the number of test flights for any aircraft at Naval Air Station Patuxent River. And so far this month, the integrated test team has completed seven CF-1 test flights.

“The team has been doing a great job staying on top of maintenance requirements,” said Jim McClendon, Lockheed Martin site director vice president. “Just last week, CF-1 flew six flights in six days, which is a great accomplishment in any test program, let alone test and evaluation for a brand new aircraft.”

Coupled with this week’s arrival of the second carrier variant, CF-2, and arrival of CF-3 later this year, the F-35C test program is making rapid progress toward initial carrier suitability testing this year at Joint Base Lakehurst-McGuire-Dix in New Jersey. First carrier suitability testing this summer is scheduled to include the first catapult launches, and the F-35C is scheduled to commence shipboard testing in 2013.

So it sounds like the Cs are burning up the sky down there at Pax River, but it’s one thing for a jet to take off and land on a traditional runway, even if it’s simulating a carrier deck. It’s quite another to shoot down the bow on a steam cat or crash to a halt on the three wire. Skeptics in and outside the Navy may reserve their judgment on the C until they see it work its way through cyclic flight ops at sea.

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F22 is best Air superiority aircraft in the world but barry Hussein obama still eliminated it.

Quality and effectiveness are the reason that little barry hates military programs. Too much power projection for those mean old Americans. To quote his black liberation pastor of 20 years “white man’s greed runs a world in need..”

Watch out F35 program… LM may be the next target for NLRB after boeing…

Gates put the F-22 on the chopping block before Obama took office

Jakemono is right. Obama isn’t the Raptor killer.

This is good news for the JSF program. Let’s see how long it holds up, like the article says we are only talking abut taking off and landing…still it is good news.

As backhanded compliments continue…some reminders. GAO-01–782 in July 2001 had the USAF predicting costs for 333 F-22s at $39.6 billion, while the Sec of Defense was predicting $46.6 bil for that number. Historically, old cost predictions mean little to nothing and early failure does not preclude quality long-term results.

A 2010 RAND study, “Ending F-22A Production,” predicted costs of $19.2 aircraft to build another 75 F-22s between now and 2016 in a shutdown and restart scenario. GAO-11–325 predicts that in 2012–13 we will buy 74 tri-service F-35s much sooner for $20.2 bill. So for a billion more, we can continue procuring and developing the future of fighter airpower for three services, instead of solely modernizing one service’s fleet.

Given F-35A and C successes to date, and B potential, believe we need to give the JSF program every opportunity to succeed. Foreign sales potential equipping friends with quality 5th gen aircraft will help our trade deficit while continuing the spread of credible coalition defenses to multiple allies as exemplified by international efforts in places like Afghanistan and Libya…and increasing deterrence in places like the Pacific where all eggs in the land basket could be problematic.

interesting points.…

I couldn’t find it on Asia Times. Do you have a link to the story?

Tell me about the great successes. For the USAF alone, IOC is behind 7 years.

1. The production design is not stable because they only have 4 percent or so of flight testing done, and over 3 times the software of an F-22 to qualify. Building more mistake jets doesn’t help us.
2. The services don’t have the obligation funds. They were betting all these years on that “affordable” F-35 we hear so much about but doesn’t show. USAF has already stated they don’t know how to fund more than 48 jets a year unless Congress hands over more gross domestic product. A fairly tale plan vs what USAF plans and program people can cough up for the budget.
3. You can not have a production learning curve and thus a lower price, until what is being built on the production line is consistently stable.

Continuing to purchase the JSF at $150,000,000.00 + and rising each times 2600… Humm, there is no reason to purchase a manned Aircraft when we have JASSM-ER, ALCM’s, Predator, Global Hawk, etc… etc… We could build thousands of long-range standoff missiles that can Kill IADS of any Country. Stealth is dead!!! F-22 is dead!!! and JSF is DEAD!!! Spending a 10+Trillion over the life cycle of the system is Crazy!!! Air Force Secretary Michael Donley Donnelly and Admiral Mullins (Stealth Ships + a 1000 after burning Ships/Targets and hired the President of Northrop Grumman Ship Building) Navy is outrageous. Google S-400 SA-21.…

F-35 Is the Biggest Waste of Government Funds on the Planet. Lockheed Fucking Marting and the Texas assholes are Bankrupting the DOD with their Bullshit Platform.

Yes, lets fix the LO onboard a ship or in the desert…LOL.… Good Luck

They have a lot more software to write because the F-35 will do so much more than a F-22. In his cost estimates Cole left out the Billions it is going to cost over the FYDP to upgrade the F-22 to actually work as advertised. Things like actually talking to other planes and engaging ground target (although even then it will have virtually no ordnance selection), etc. The F-22 is basicall a air superiority platform as opposed to a multipurpose fighter and to make it more useful is going to cost a fortune on top of the fortune already spent.

the art of propaganda

In another milestone the F-35 team had a fault free day yesterday. “Yes we were going so good we decided to give everyone a holiday — and when we got back turns out nobody had logged any faults — a first for us and we are all very proud.”

Apparently one engineer did go in to work despite the holiday and registered a raft of problems but they were unofficial faults and were quickly removed from the system. “We are looking at beefing up security as a result of the incident” the program manager said.

It’s a lot easier and less time consuming than restoring LO on an F-22 fyi…

Ironically, an Australian publication was cited but the small blurb about it was in Galrahn’s InformationDissemination​.net.

That’s utter and complete BS… like many of your posts.

Would you please stop using “google” as an actual reference.Try to cite something solid and factual in your near-incoherent ramblings.

You never sited your source earlier. You are still blabbering nonsense without sources. Address the question I asked you earlier.

That’s funny because I see C’s and the B’s fly all day here. Unless you mean the times they are down in a mod period, which is common for all flight test assets and can range from a day or two, to up to a month or so depending on the type and size of said mod. But I suspect that isn’t what you really meant at all, and it’s clear you have absolutely zero knowledge of how a flight test program works from a maintenance dept perspective, so I’ll let your ignorance slide on this one.

Put you request in in triplicate on green paper and we’ll see what we can do.

They say that the bright kids don’t go into engineering in the US any more. Looks like that is true.

It’s even more impressive that with an aircraft that has a MTBF of just 1.5 hours — 0.4 hours for the B model — the pilots dare to fly it all day — apart from when it’s begin patched back together of course.

You just gotta love a test program that even the head of the JSF program has called a complete failure.

Even so they don’t have to replace the factories skin panel moldings to fix the F-22 LO.

I hear more holidays are planned to boost the programs reliability average.

What the hell is MTBF, and are you just making that up? Where exactly are you getting your “info” from too?

What the hell are you talking about?

What? The only thing you know about this jet is what you read on here. Try to make sense and stop talking out of the side of your face.

Don’t underestimate the problems of building good, large software applications. The software could take a really, really long time to get stable (i.e. not kill the pilot or people on the ground). Large applications are a nightmare and very difficult to work with and in this case there aren’t any short cuts. Windows Vista is a prime example of an attempt to create a wholly new OS by one of the worlds leading software company. If they couldn’t do it well it means it is really hard. Well over half of Vista’s features were dropped or completely rewritten by the end and it delivered almost nothing it promised.

Microsoft didn’t have high school students working on Vista it had it’s best people on that project for 6+ years. However if you don’t like the windows example look into the first version of OSX. It was a nightmare too. Adobe’s CS suite had some problems too.

Maybe you need to take a holiday from here Oblatski.

LOL, I can tell you this for sure.…From the structure of your sentences or lack there of, your woeful lack of understanding of engineering or programming concepts that you feel the need to comment on, and your general lack of common sense I can tell you that I am light years ahead of you when it comes to intelligence. What is your profession by the way, smart a$$?

You’re feeding the troll.

Just for reference the JSF program logs about major 10 design faults a day on average. Take a brand new JSF out of the factory and fly it to pax and it already needs to be repaired.

That is President Obama to you you racist POS. And the Pentagon halted procurement, not President Obama.
If you want to play the blame game, maybe you should point your ire at Congress and the DOD.
“In April 2009 the US Department of Defense proposed to cease placing new orders, subject to Congressional approval, for a final procurement tally of 187 Raptors. Then the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010 was signed into law in October 2009 without funding for further F-22 production.”

Obama threatened veto funds for more f-22, obama´s administrarion killed F-22

Just like any other aircraft flying cross country, or anywhere for that matter. It’s called a postflight check genius…

not when bits fall off.

As the rest of you will soon learn, Oblatski doesn’t believe in sources, he just knows all.

Mean time between failure. He got it from GAO-11–325 from April 2011 citing figures through September 2010 when I believe only a few F-35A existed.

He got it wrong in part. It was 1.8 hours (not the 1.5 claimed) MTBF with 2.9 expected to that date on the F-35A. Six hours is the ultimate desired figured for the F-35A with 4.0 hours desired for the F-35B and C. The .4 hours figure was correct with 1.9 hours expected for the F-35B…which is one reason, I guess, why that version is on probation.

Just to be clear, the aircraft are doing A LOT more than ‘just’ taking off & landing…

Where as with Bill you know it comes from a Lockheed press release.

What’s up Grant? Did he hurt your feelings? You sound like a liberal in that rather than break his argument you simply use the ‘-ist’ or ‘obe’ tactic. If you don’t like what he says you just call him a ‘Racist’, ‘Sexist’, ‘Chauvinist’, ‘Homophobe’, ‘Xenophobe’, etc. Bush left the question open to his successor — but it was 0bama who is every bit responsible for killing the F-22, which may haunt us for the next 40 years. 0bama is Gates boss, and he didn’t make any recommendation without Barry’s approval — if not his specific direction. They even went as far as to force into retirement the Air Force General who was advocating for more F-22’s. As altor said below, 0bama threatened to veto any further procurement of the F-22, so your claims that 0bama is innocent as the wind driven snow regarding killing F-22 production is bunk.

Regarding calling him ‘President’, well I don’t work for him, and I am a citizen of the United States. I, smoke, and anyone else can call him whatever the ‘F’ we want — just like the liberals did with Bush. Deal with it.

Ah, you two little love birds, just kiss and make up now…

What a joke, historically all we’ve had to date are cost overruns with the entire JSF Program which is now firmly on the path to making it to the $1 trillion dollars total program cost as predicted by the GAO in 2009.

I might add that while the F-22 is OPERATIONAL and battle ready, the F-35 continues to waddle down the path to IOC at a glacial pace (if we are lucky) in 2018.

Also I would dispute the notion that the F-35 is a REAL 5th generation fighter, and further that selling this piece of excrement to our allies is somehow going to win us kudos from anyone.

Funny to listen to the senate inquiry into the F-35.

Carter raised the question about why we should believe his estimates now since all the previous ones were rubbish. He claims to have done it properly ‘this’ time.

Then he goes on to call his own estimate for operating costs a joke that nobody would believe. Everybody laughs.

Head of the OT&E confirms that no testing of the flight envelope or any loading has been done just simple take offs fly a loop and land.

The turkey can fly! — well that certainly exceeded test goals.

McCain asks who’s going to pay for all the redesign and rework — Cater says Lockheed has no intention of paying a dime let alone sharing the costs.

The aircraft may be BS but the reports are true.

The writer of this article doesn’t seem to think so– take it up with him. Just so I understand what else is the F-35 doing that is A LOT more than taking off and landing? Is it doing any combat related activities? War games exercises? What special information do you have? In all seriousness you could change my mind about this project. Other than basic flight testing what is this aircraft doing?

F-22? The article is about the F-35. Focus.

“You sound like a liberal.” Are you saying that conservatives don’t use ‘-isms’ or ‘-obe’ to tar opponents? I think Grant did back-up his assertions with facts. General Moseley was not forced to retire. He was relieved over nuclear weapons accountability, not the F-22.

Your level is disrespect to the POTUS and USG says more about you than any of your opinions. “They started it” is your justification? Do you realize the contradiction in slamming Grant for having a “liberal” opinion and your open disrespect for the USG? Both are protected by the 1st Amendment.

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