Should the U.S. welcome a smaller global presence?

Should the U.S. welcome a smaller global presence?

Many Washington commentators dread the coming of Austerity America; they mourn what they fear will be the passing of America’s global reach and the apogee of its power. Not Christopher Preble of the Cato Institute, whose column in Defense News seems to celebrate what he argues will be a needed rebalancing of American military power with that of the rest of the world.

In his warnings about potential cuts to DoD’s budget, Secretary Gates “exaggerates the threats facing us, and he misconstrues the benefits that we derive from our enormous military,” Preble writes. America’s enormous military spending just entices the rest of the world to let it carry all the burden, he argues, which in turn puts still more of a burden on American taxpayers. But America can shed a lot of that power and still remain very secure, Preble says:

What makes us secure? The combination of nuclear weapons and favorable geography. We can effectively rule out the prospect of land invasion (most countries can’t), and a million-man amphibious operation from the sea is extremely unlikely. Any leader foolish enough to launch an overt attack on the United States would have to get past the Navy and the Air Force. These forces exist to deter attacks, and win a decisive military victory if deterrence fails.


This raises the old “Red Dawn” argument about whether the continental U.S. is actually impervious to invasion, but let’s set that aside for a moment. What Preble is saying is that Americans and their leaders should return to a time when they were worried only about the defense of the continental United States, and not about the maintenance of America’s global empire. Although Gates argues that American power is the surest guarantor of international stability, Preble says that the world will remain stable because other countries will step in to fill the vacuum created by the withdrawal of so much American force:

Gates suggests that shedding certain roles and missions, and shifting burdens to others, entails intolerable risks. People in other countries might choose not to direct some money from generous social welfare programs to defense. Perhaps they will refuse to share some of the costs of keeping the oceans free from pirates, or fail to keep local troublemakers in their respective boxes.

According to Gates, that is a risk not worth taking. He seems to believe that every problem, no matter how small or distant, will inevitably arrive on our shores. Therefore, we cannot rely on other countries to do more — or anything, really — to defend themselves and their interests … But our military power doesn’t do all that he says that it does, and understanding the limits of that power is both prudent and wise. The United States is an exceptional nation, but we are not the indispensable nation.

Today, American taxpayers provide half of the world’s military spending, while our share of the global economy has fallen to less than one quarter. It isn’t realistic to expect 5 percent of the world’s population to bear these costs indefinitely. Gates seems to think that it is, or, at least, that there is no alternative. But if there is no alternative to U.S. power, then that is largely a problem of our own making. And it is one that we can solve.

Gates failed to do so; it is not clear that he even tried. Here’s hoping that his successor does.

What do you think?

 

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The days of us acting as the World Police Force are over. Bringing back the remaining army brigades in Europe would be a good start. Next, continuous carrier battle group presence must be stopped. We can no longer afford the force levels necessary to make these work. No one is advocating unilateral disarmament, but clearly changes must be made.

“celebrate what he argues will be a needed rebalancing of American military power with that of the rest of the world.”-Christopher Preble

Imbalance with the rest of the world is that “edge” that advantage we’ve paid so much to achieve, so that we aren’t on an even footing with our adversaries. When the failure of a few programs can kill parts of the defense industry, I’d call that a matter of minimal sustainability, cut any more and you accept a greatly reduced ability for the US to conduct overwhelming warfare independently. Look at Britain, France, et al in Libya… do we want to be forced into a situation where we have to wage war in that limited way?-I don’t think so.

Stability comes from a system that can guarantee that tomorrow will be a lot like today. Power fluctuations do not create stability.

When power imbalances reach points in certain parts of the world where force becomes a viable option to solve resource demands you have more conflict and less stability.

Stability, not security, is what allows the worlds economies to thrive.

I don’t like the idea of playing World Police, but thats really a different issue than scaling back capabilites. Even still, if you’re the “police” you’re the authority… do “We” want to be the authority or subordinate to someone elses authority?

I think there are savings to be had. We need to get away from the custom designs for solutions approach to procurement and use more OTS options for savings. We could definitely scale back what we deploy, but we shouldn’t scale back the fact we do deploy. That lack of presence invites military adventurism on the part of potential adversaries.

We should also look at bringing some international situations to a close like Iran and North Korea. Allowing those two nations to continue to engage in the behavior that they do costs us a great deal of annual spending, simply taking steps to rid the world of them would be a big cost saver. I’m not talking about military intervention either, but we certainly can’t outsource our national security strategy to the UN security council either. Our current administration has run too far to the other side of the ship, whereas Bush 2 was not interested in what others thought and gaining their approval Obama is too concerned with it. We need to be willing to act in our own welfare but that doesn’t mean we can’t listen to allies first, the working word though is ‘allies’ as in not China and Russia.

For much of the world the withdrawal of our bases will be the end of the colonial era. Americans like to kid themselves that the occupations are doing other countries a favor but the reality is that we have done it deliberately to maintain influence on them. We are not in South Korea to defend them from the North we are there because it is in our interests to prevent South Korea from developing nuclear weapons for their own defense. As history shows once you have nukes even the biggest bully starts paying you respect (and occasionally a stipend).

Undoubtedly the inevitable pullback will make those that don’t see the glory in maintaining our colonial empire happy. The defense contractors will also be happy as they are well on their way to convincing the government that a good part of the savings should be shunted over to them. The new contractor paradigm is being marketed as the need to maintain “dominance” from a desk in Tampa. It’s a bit of a joke — the the strategic equivalent of a drive by shooting — but they are selling to the words most clueless customer.

The people with their heads in the sand about to be bulldozed are the military socialists who are going to see the largest contraction in their welfare state. At least when they look up from their dole queues they can watch the fleet of contractor monopoly profits fly over.

Cheaper for the South Koreans to just build nukes and say good-by.

No empire is the “worlds policeman” and neither is ours. We are more like a mafia running our rackets extracting our extortion money and making people play by our rules. And when someone gets out of line (often a former associate) we put in a fix.

And as any don knows its a delicate balance get too greedy like demanding that people pay for their own occupation and resistance increases. We find that we arn’t as indispensable as we think we are. Pretty soon people are thinking about alternatives — maybe go over to a family with less onerous terms or buy a piece oneself.

The Chinese are making great headway with poorer nations convincing them that the US is too greedy already. Just as several richer nations have started thinking more about a nuclear industry of their own. The state department doesn’t put out press releases on these things but they know that the empire is tenuous and could so very easily slip away.

I can still remember the days when a GI had a positive effect on the local economy in many countries, and then the days when those countries would pay for our wars and give generous donations for our bases. But those days are long gone. These days we are a pretty sad family. Instead of collecting protection money in a lot of cases we have to pay it. Open trade deals with countries like Japan and South Korea are the price we have to pay to have them put up with our troops.

We are already seeing the result of declining American wealth in the business influence of American companies but it will eventually flow through to geopolitics. Japan and South Korea already do better trade with China than us and our contribution will fall further.

Producing nukes has some costs but even then as the American market declines the soft elements such as base land and support will quietly vanish.

If we want to stay we are going to have to work out how to deliver a greater percentage of our shrinking wealth to our allies.

When nobodies buying in the vast majority of cases it’s because the product stinks not that all the customers are stupid.

Good Morning Folks,

While I can’t disagree with anything Mr.Preble said, it what he didn’t say that negates his point.

The purpose of the US military outside of protecting out borders is keeping the worlds lines of communications open to American commerce. This is where the Carriers, Submarines and Naval surface come into play, they are the expensive “toys”.

In the foreseeable future our problem will come from stateless groups who currently are attempting to use land lock countries as bases of operation in the hope that it makes it more difficult and expensive for US ground forces to get to them. The next move most obviously will be the disruption of the coastal and littoral sea lanes. See todays story on the certification of the USS Oak Hill LDS 51 and it certification of using its wet well for PCR and PBR’s.

With the opening of the Northwest and Northeast Passages this mission will become even more important. Countries such as Canada and Russia are not able to keep the vital water ways to open to and safe for all commerce. This is a task only the USN can do.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

“Rebalancing” is a code word for cutting back our capability. If we were to “rebalance” like Great Britain has done then we would have no carriers and no Navy to speak of.

While I do agree it is a waste to station troops in Europe, and our Allies need to step up in Korea and Japan. Everyone needs to remember that where there’s a vacuum bad guys WILL fill it. History teaches us that lesson over and over again. Happy Happy thoughts will not change behavior of those who wish evil upon the world.

I agree we need a smaller global presence but not no global presence. Granted, no conventional attack will happen on US soil. We need to worry about terrorism and the very doubtful threat of a nuclear war. However, a new grand strategy has to be created by our leaders to determine what we will and will not do. We need to keep the South China Sea trade routes free but we need to stay out of other disputes and maybe let other nations take care of some HA/DR missions. Just a quick thought.

The “rebalancing” some want is the equivalent of gutting our military in a manner not seen in the likes of American history. The only comparison would be the steady decline of the British armed forces, brought about by budget cuts year after year. Often these budget cuts are implemented to reduce the deficit. Yet when social spending is left unchecked the nation remains in the red and soon enough the military is facing cuts again. This is a vicious cycle and trap we must not fall into.

We gut our military and our favorable geography won’t do us any good. We still have, and will always have international interests. Dangerous enemies can emerge all too rapidly, especially when most nations have disarmed themselves.

Yet there are things we can do, mainly cut many of the foreign bases and installations we have overseas. What need is there for a large standing force in Germany? Even South Korea could hold their own long enough for American reinforcements to arrive. We only need a handful (less than a dozen) airbases in allied nations. Bring these troops home and have them spend their paychecks back here rather than ungrateful allies.

In such a scenario there is no reason to reduce our number of carrier battle groups. The entire Navy will play a greater role in power projection, and the carriers are the backbone of that capability. The Marine Corp needs to focus on their duties as an expeditionary force, rather than it’s use as a “second army” like we see in current operations. Even with all of their helicopters, this will involve new amphibious assault ships and some sort of replacement for the old AAV-7 series. The Marine Corp, and Army airborne units, must be capable of keeping a situation in check until the Army’s armored and mechanized units can arrive.

“where there’s a vacuum bad guys WILL fill it”.…. the european countries got used to the idea of having uncle Sam protecting them.…specially Germany. Wy is the US still there …and Spain, Portugal, Greece, Italy, etc .…goshhhhhhhhh … those countries have better highway systems than the US … better Hospitals and better rail road.…geee …you guys are so generous!!! .…keep giving us free security :)

“than ungrateful allies” .… only the leftover from the comunists parties (less than 10% population) are ungrateful allies.

My question is: CAN THE US KEEP UP WITH THIS KIND OF EXPENDITURE SPECIALLY WHEN NOW IS NOT THAT MUCH NEEDED AND MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WILL BE?

maybe later on will be obligated to reduce its presence by lack of $$$ .… now it can do it with a coherent plan, but maybe in the future will be in a hurry without sense.

There is little doubt as to what Preble is all about or what his employer, the Cato Institute stands for. These people are doctrinaire libertarians who extend their small-to-no government ideology to include our national strategy and national defense. They are basically the same as Gaullists in France, and certain elements of the British Tory Party. There is no form of international security, no alliance relationship, no sacred or hallowed commitment that they appreciate or support. They represent the worst, most wretched and cramped version of “Go It Alone” American foreign policy. In their most heinous form, these people aid and abet a policy of appeasement and amoral indifference towards the outside world. They support programs like SDI if and only if they don’t help make anyone but America more secure.

Is there a middle way ? I think there is, but DoD Buzz does not seem interested in talking about anything but the most extreme, declinist, measures.

The fail…it burns!

So do we cut South Korea, Taiwan, Israel and our Middle Eastern Allies loose? Our NATO allies didn’t have enough smart bombs for the little fracas in Libya.

Who will stop the pirates? Contain Iran? Counter China? Stop Russian arms sales? Stop drug and arms smuggling?

Not France. Not the UK.

Don’t ask about the UN. Without the US there is no UN.

Sorry to break this to all the economics profs and so-called experts. We HAVE to police the world or watch it burn. A world without a global superpower is the 1930’s all over again.

Summary: cut the meat and pour the money into more contractor waste.

Europe is very important. Generally wars are fought over ideology and religion, and most of Europe shares the same in both categories in regards to the U.S. Keeping a the current units in Europe is expensive, but I would think it would be essential for U.S. intrests in general to not become so secluded from the rest of the world. I am all for a more issolationalist policy in the U.S. but there has to be a limit and a line.

The U.S. needs to maintain a strong, robust presence in Asia. Particularly in Southeast Asia and the South Chinese Sea area. The Korean peninsula isn’t going to get any better any time soon, so that situation is going to remain the status quo for the foreseeable future. Similarly, China seems content to maintain a stand-off position vis a vis Taiwan, with a vague and possibly hollow capability to invade in the future. Accordingly, the U.S. needs to be capable of offsetting that capability.

Honestly, all the necessary savings can be found in Europe.

It’s a a matter of balancing risk. I kind of come down on the side of Christopher Pus on this one. What has the our sole super power status gotten us lately?

Indefinite occupations

Additional foreign commitments $$$$

Crippling debt

Lazy Allies

Focus on the Pacific and Middle East and scale everything else back.

Bring them all home, Our NAVAL forces can provide all the foward precense we need. The funds spent renting land for overseas bases can be put into US bases and communities along with the soldiers pay being spent in the US and not over sea. Along with this we need to stop all foriegn military, economic, aid social aid. We need to stop using the military for disaster relief of other countries (I DID NOT SEE ANYONE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY IN ORLEANS, CALIFORNIA, ALABAMA, TEXAS, MISSOURI, OHIO OR ANYOTHER DISASTER SITE HERE OR HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT A FORIEGN GOVT GIVING US BILLIONS TO REBUILD.) We can maintain the sea lanes and keep commerce going — in fact other countries will become more dependent on us to sustain their economies if we are not giving them cash and materials (i.e scap meatls — plastics and such going to China — India — PAkistan etc.)

Investing 5% of GDP per annum has been the historical norm for decades. I think we can afford continued investment at this level in one of the few constitutionally-mandated functions of the federal government. We wouldn’t be having this discussion were it not for the fact that we’ve blown the bank on unconstitutional federal welfare programs over the past half-century. CATO/libertarians were once upon a time worried about how to scale back “big government;” let Preble et al deal with the gorilla in the room. I prefer the world of 2011 to that of 1934.

Well I will gladly hand you my police suit as Im hanging it up… enjoy! Its only got 14yrs and 4 tours of use… I think they sell cheap iron on patch kits at Walmart though. Good Luck

To put a gloss on a famous quote by Frederick the Great (He who defends everything, defends nothing):

“He who risks nothing, risks everything.”

Bring the troops home. Keep a few overseas naval bases. Increase the navy shipbuilding budget. Build a modern intercontinental bomber in large numbers for the air force. Build modern strike fighters for the navy with a 1000 nautical mile combat radius. Build double hulled cargo ships for military transports and lease them for commercial use when not needed for military purposes. Build a version of the arsenal ship concept from the 1990’s but outfit it with a radar. There was also the concept of sea-basing using connected modified oil rigs that was talked about in the 90’s. It would be cheaper than an aircraft carrier and bigger as well. It could serve as a movable floating joint operations base.

Also, since WWII all of our wars have been wars of choice. None of them involved a true threat to national security. The Taliban offered to extradite Bin Laden to a third country. Bush could of had Bin Laden dropped off in Egypt or Sweden. But then UNOCAL wouldn’t get their oil pipeline running from the Caspian Sea through Afghanistan and into Pakistan. The Taliban turned them down because UNOCAL didn’t want to pay what the Taliban wanted. We are fighting oil wars overseas for American oil companies. The US military has warped into the world’s largest mercenaries. The funny thing is that the oil we are fighting for isn’t even sold here. We would have a lot less dead and wounded Americans if we built nuclear reactors and electric/ natural gas cars. We would also have a lot more money and could afford an even larger force structure.

Let it burn. Let it burn all night. We have little enough commitment to the continental United States. Instead we are spread all over the world with little strategic capability as a result. We have to carefully husband resources for these “little wars” like Af-Pak. The time is now to end this waste.

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