House lawmakers appeal to Obama to stop defense cuts

House lawmakers appeal to Obama to stop defense cuts

House Armed Services Committee chairman Rep. Buck McKeon, Missouri Rep. Vicky Hartzler — who sits in former HASC chair Ike Skelton’s old seat — and many other Republican defense advocates signed a letter to President Obama Thursday urging him not to make a deal that involves deep defense budget cuts. The letter, drafted by Hartzler, cites the ongoing wars and future threats the U.S. as reasons to keep the Pentagon’s budget stable — and it strongly implies that enough Republicans could oppose the bargain to keep it from passing.

Here’s part of what Hartzler wrote:

We are a nation at war with men and women fighting in harm’s way on multiple fronts. We need to ensure that the soldiers of this nation are well equipped with every resource they need to protect the liberties we all enjoy. We need to send a clear message to the men and women fighting for our nation that this Congress will not sit by while your Administration makes unjustified decisions about defense funding.


She continues:

… [S]izable sums are being offered up without the necessary analysis of what our nation’s national defense obligations and priorities are, and more importantly, without any consideration for the risks they pose to our national defense. Given the shortfalls we already face today it is clear that further cuts to national defense will result in deep reductions in force structure that will leave our military less capable and less ready to fight in the long-term. This is a dramatic shift for a nation at war and a dangerous signal to our foes about our willingness to defend our national interest.

To make matters worse, you recently indicated in your Twitter town hall that any cuts in defense spending would not be applied to deficit reduction but instead would go to expand discretionary domestic programs: “But it’s [the defense budget] so big that you can make relatively modest changes to defense that end up giving you a lot of headroom to fund things like basic research or student loans or things like that.” Your statement illustrates that proposed cuts to defense spending are not intended to address our historically high levels of deficit spending. To the contrary, these cuts to defense spending appear to be designed to weaken our national security in favor of more domestic spending.

Consequently, we are left with more questions than answers. What is the national security strategy of the United States going forward? What missions will our Armed Forces no longer conduct? How will we modernize our aging ships, planes, and war-worn field equipment? These cuts would decrease America’s ability to deter enemies at home and abroad. They will burden strained military families. They also constitute a marked departure from Congress’ constitutional responsibility to provide for the common defense. This duty rests solely with Congress and thus deserves our utmost dedication. We urge you to protect a strong national defense while also seeking fiscal constraint in the vast array of programs run by the federal government.

Did you see what they did there? Secretary Gates’ strategy strategy is now gospel across all defense circles. Defense advocates don’t want all of this to happen so fast that even the Pentagon’s Mother of All Reviews is obsolete before it’s finished.

 

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These people are oblivious if they think defense cuts will be a rational and well thought out process. There’s only one number at work here: 14 as in 14 TRILLION dollars, the size of the national debt. If Congress and the White House don’t act, the bond market will force their hand.

Elections have consequences…wait, didn’t someone else say that already?

Yes, Gates saved the necks of all the Gates haters. Yet they will still hate him.

What effing hippocrites. We can’t raise the taxes. We can’t cut defense. We can only cut seniors and disabled peoples programs, and we are supposed to be “leaders of the free world.” How is that fair, balanced, or democratic?

Bottom line: The defense industry did not drink the Obama coolaid during his election, as tradition and history support, with a Democratic Administration, defense jobs get cut, with a Republican Administration they get increased as with what Bush did. However the jobs he created supposedly with the Constellation Program were killed by Congress who historically will not finish what they pay for, blame the Defense Industry for the changes the DoD instigate and then cancel the programs wasting trillions and putting more people on the street unemployed.

In the past administrations like Regan’s we had ‘real’ intelligence in Washington to be creative, collaborative and help this country — with a 2nd On the Job Training President in the past 12 yrs, and the idiots in Congress, this country is screwed!

Before we cut the defense budget like they did under Jimmy Boy, they need to perform an Economic Analysis of how much Federal Income tax, Social Security tax and other taxes will be lost by gutting the defense budget, the analysis should also include howm many new people will be on undemployment and that cost, how many job outside of the defense industry will be lost and the taxes lost there. If any thing cut down on the entitlement payments like welfare, housing assistance etc these are a drain on the economy as no one is working or paying taxes.

I want the rich billionaires to step up to the plate and say “we will save our country and pay for the defense budget with our billions.” Why does it take 200,000 people to “shop” for the DOD. OSD has millions of pages of policy, guides, instructions, manuels, desk guides, procedures, etc ., that they make up each year and tens of thousands follow and pass on to the Contractors. It is like having the private sector tell the local car dealership and the car maunafacturer to follow our paperwork procedures in how to design and build a car and maintain it and talk about the papaerwork with the front offices fro ten years before we even get the actual car. Reduce the OSD staff and Services staff overheads and Procurement and Acquisition functions in O&M and Procurement commands and you will have a buyer and stronger defense weapon portfilio.

It’s funny but the very same people that said it was okay to raise TRICARE Fees, are now crying about cuts that may affect them. Well welcome to our world. Remember was goes around always comes around again.

REpublicans are out to gut bebefirs!

WASHINGTON, July 20, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — “Sooner or later, some senator or congressman was going to target benefits earned by veterans,” said John Rowan, National President of Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA). “It seems that Senator Tom Coburn (R-Oklahoma) is the one who has taken aim and fired.“
Senator Coburn, a medical doctor with a well-earned reputation as a fiscal conservative, has offered an amendment to H.R. 2055, the Military Construction and Veterans’ Affairs and related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012. His amendment would require proof of a “causal relationship” rather than a “positive association” of certain illnesses to Agent Orange exposure. “If enacted, this measure will significantly restrict Agent Orange benefits and care. VVA vigorously opposes this amendment,” Rowan said.
“This measure is wrong-headed. It is out of touch with science – and with the intent of the Agent Orange Act of 1991. It attempts to undo two decades of policy. Currently, veterans are presumed to have been exposed to Agent Orange if they served ‘boots-on-the-ground’ in Vietnam and, in some instances, along the demilitarized zone in Korea,” Rowan said. “If they develop certain maladies that the VA Secretary has determined, on the basis of sound scientific and epidemiological research, that a positive association exists between the exposure and the occurrence of the disease, they are entitled to health-care and disability compensation.“
“Congress, in part, settled on this mechanism because it was nearly impossible for Vietnam veterans to prove that their exposure to Agent Orange caused their health conditions, many of which are ultimately fatal,” Rowan said. “Requiring a causal relationship, which is well nigh impossible to demonstrate, would essentially mean that benefits due to Agent Orange exposure would be out of reach for Vietnam veterans.“
“If the senator feels that Agent Orange benefits and needed medical care ought to be stripped from Vietnam veterans and their families, then he should introduce a bill and arrange to hold a hearing,” Rowan said. “But there has been no bill, and no hearing. And if his colleagues really do care about the health of Vietnam veterans, they ought to stand with Vietnam Veterans of America, with all Vietnam veterans and our families, and with most of our colleagues in other Veterans Service Organizations. We call on a bipartisan majority of Senators to reject the ill-advised Coburn amendment out of hand.“
Vietnam Veterans of America is the nation’s only congressionally chartered veterans’ service organization dedicated to the needs of Vietnam-era veterans and our families. VVA’s founding principle is, “Never again will one generation of veterans abandon another.”

The problem of the DOD is now what Gates have voluntarily cut all feat and flesh from the DOD and only the naked bones has remain and now the DOD can not absorb any new cut like a 400B or a 1000B cut it is a total disaster and i see no hope for the DOD to survive any of this now planed cuts.

In the early 90 the DOD was cut by just 25% and as consequence the Military has lose about 50% of is active fighters and about 40% of is active ships and about 1 Million soldiers and employers and he has also never really recovered from this apparent medium cuts in the nineties. But 1993 was the situation in compare to jet much better, the most US Weapons were one this time brand-new and no peer enemy in view now about all US Weapons are more them 25 Years old and outdated and all most be immediately replace and i can simple not imagined as it should be possible to cut the DOD more under this conditions it is just madness what they see now. The US Military 2011 is use up, small and equipped with outdated weapons to cut now the last remaining modernization programs will give him the rest. I ask all progressives and budget cutters how long´ can an 25 Years old F16 or F15 fly our how long can a 60 Years used up Bomber fly before it simple break up ?

I think this is the momentum of the USA, them this cuts become reality the USA will definitively lost is position as a real World Power and exactly ends like other former world powers UK and France.

Remember, Barry obamas goal is to gut defense… it is his ATM so he can spend on his welfare state voters.…

Most of America has been outsourced to other countries, if we bring them back maybe these problems would have less political impact. Being this is a rumor page, are some companies using labor laws to pay forgien workers with American tax money.

This is yet another ploy by Lockheed Martin to build additional platforms to take the place of the C-5A. This platform is Fine. Modifications are much less expensive than building another. This Platform has NO Match in Capability. We cannot afford to lose this asset. We have to STOP Listening to Wall Street!!!

We need to stop the JSF, F-22 and NGB Programs. Stealth is DEAD, Google SA-21 and S-400. We are wasting Billions and Trillions on these wasted platforms… Lockheed Martin should never be allow to bid on a RFQ again. They need to be dismantled and broken up for Lying to the American People. We retired the F-117, the Only True Stealth Platform, in November 2008 because Stealth was dead!!!! Senor Leadership both Military should be fired here at the Pentagon. You talk to a Senior Civilian or Military and you’re speaking to Lockheed Martin. They are one in the same.

Everyone in the pentagon that I work with knows JSF is worthless with the exception of our stupid Senior Leadership at the Pentagon that is paid under the Table by Lockheed Martin. They should fire all the “Generals” at the Pentagon and promote some individuals with some ability to make a decision and not listen to integrators attempting to keep wall street happy. We cannot find our fallen Warriors at Arlington National Cemetery, or help our Vets coming home from committing suicide but we can continue to purchase a platform that is NOT STEALTH.… Stealth is DEAD. The F-35, B-2, F-22 and NGB need to be defunded and the programs STOPPED.… ASAP. We will not be effective in the Battlespace or the GIG without a complete turnaround in our current policy. If these platforms were so wonderful why have we begin a new Fighter and Bomber Program.… more Funds for Lockheed Martin and wall street to squander away and to pay their lying senior leadership a bonus. This Country has completely lost their minds. Thank GOD for Canada, Britton the other countries that has said NO to this front gate museum piece.

Wall street and the integrators in addition to Senior Leadership at the Pentagon have drove this Country into the dirt for nothing more than money. Had Bush went and pursued UBL as the President did back in 2002 we would be healthy. Instead Bush pushed us into two wars, let UBL go and let the Banks and the integrators on at the Pentagon (that is ran by Lockheed Martin) rampant. Of course our Generals and Admirals are as much to blame, and are tethered to the Prime Integrators. These wars were nothing more than a money making proposition, that is way bush did not pursue UBL.

Stocks and money are more important than the real purpose. President Obama has taken down UBL, that has finally collapsed and broke the back of the Taliban. Now we are faced with bushes debt, tax cuts for the rich and purchasing platforms and weapons systems from a company in bush’s home state of texas. Hillary Clinton was correct when she ran of office in 08, it will take 20 years to fix what bush has screwed up for 8. Thank God for President Obama. Until a month ago, I was a Republican, however, that is history. The President is a fiscal conservative and moderate compared to any of the republicans that are now in office. This is a Pathetic and disconcerting situation. The President is doing was is right for this Country and no one will help him move our efforts forward with job creation and respect for his ability and leadership. We could have George Washington in the oval office at this point and it would make no difference to the Republicans.

I am sure his friends at Lockheed Martin in Texas decided that he could get additional votes in Texas by keeping the Defense Industry employed. That of course makes Wall Street Happy and screws the Military. Our Blood, their Money. The Truth will come out in the end, that will include way we went into Iraq at the time and no WMD was located. As Colon Powell said, you broke it… You can fix it. 10 Years later and numerous lives, we finally killed UBL. Now the entire Defense Department is scaling back. Leon will crush the JSF, F-22, B-2 and NGB Program and put this country back on track as he did while in the Clinton Whitehouse. We need to make certain we update and keep all the Branches up to speed with what is needed not what is wanted or what the Prime Integrators can put on paper as the “Silver Bullet”.

Purchase what WE NEED, NOT What these integrators stipulate in their Money Making ability for wall street. For instance, JSF Platform cannot bomb a Bridge without hanging a “Pylon” On the wing. NO STEALTH. No Internal Gun… Has to have one mounted on the Centerline. Better make half of the Navy JSF’s as Tankers for inflight refueling. At the Present time the new F/A-18E is utilized for Tanking all the other Fighters. Hope they are testing OT/DT Tanking with a $160,000,000.00 Fighter. The OFP is Fucked Up. The Air-Ground Weapons are useless. It has no connectivity with any other legacy or new platform including F-22. The one exception is 1924 UHF, VHF Voice. WOW what a Great Platform. JSF is doing nothing other than helping Stock Prices of Lockheed Martin, Subsidizing Wall Street and the Fucked up state of texas.

Senator McCain is correct. Ashton Carter is a Waste as is all the Senior Leadership at the Pentagon. Civilian and Military. This practice of Low-Balling has been well known for decades especially with JSF, KCX, NGB, F-22, B-2, there is NO Senior Leadership at the Pentagon… NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Integrators do what they want when they want with no Government supervision. The General’s and Admiral’s will not say a word, due to the fact that want a position with these thieves when they retired. The Senior Civil Servants will not say anything up front because they are afraid of rocking the boat and telling the truth that will get them fired. This type of behavior happens all the time here at the Pentagon and it must STOP.… Stealth is DEAD and we need to get a handle on this crap if we are to have a defense based on capability and Warfighting verse wall street and money. This is a disconcerting and deadly for our Nation’s Military.

Hey you libs.…you could confiscate 100% of all the Billionaires assets in this country and it would not pay for one year of deficit spending by this administration. We cannot tax our way out of this financial mess. Any tax increases on ‘big oil’ or your favorite talking point will simply get passed on to consumers. A nice way to get a back door tax increase on the middle class. Gutting defense to buy votes…what else would you expect from the left.

–Puken Dog–double your meds.

Defense is already set to be cut by $400 billion the rest of the budget hasn’t been touched. So other than defense spending of around $800 billion there is another THREE TRILLION in the federal budget. Is there anything in that three trillion to cut at all?

Is there or should there be any limit to what Washington requires to help the so called needy? Would we be a better off spending $6 trillion, $10 trillion. Should we confiscate all wealth to transfer to the needy? Would we be leaders of the free world then?

Don’t you like how he said he was a Republican and all his posts are all far left ramblings, Why do these leftists have to say that? Just admit you are a far left loon be proud of your stupidity.

Some of Obama’s more radical minions want to TOTALLY ABOLISH our Armed Forces, including the Coast Guard, and leave our country TOTALLY DEFENSELESS! Is it for “Political Justice”? Attorney General Eric “Hate the soldiers” HOLDER, unfortunately, would arrest military personnel for, quote, “military brutality” to enemies who want to DESTROY our United States of America, and all our people. That includes those three NAVY Seals that were acquitted by a Naval court-martial. Holder is conductinjg a PERSONAL vendetta against the Defense Department and our Armed Forces. We GOT to do everything we can to prevent any mockery of justice, and protect our servicemen against the Justice Department’s Anti-GI Gestapo campaign. Their agenda is ABOLISH THE ARMED FORCES! Their mantra is Military servicemen are not entitled to their civil rights! WE MUST KEEP OUR NATION FREE AND STRONG!

A few points need to be realized..North Korea remains unstable, the “You Break it, You buy it”(Colin Powell) effect in Iraq which will require troops for the next 10–20 years, Afghanistan instability, which will require troops for the next 10–20 years, China buys MRAPS, Stealth Bombers and voice their irritation with our defense of their claimed territories, the continued terror threat and our continued “Proxy” war with Iran all require that we maintain military spending and continue to provide descent pay and benefits to our active duty and retired servicemembers. Stripping the budget and trying to defend this country on a dime and a skeletal crew is totally irrational.

Puken dog I disagree with you, you want to stop all of the programs ok. Do you see the world we live totaly instable and you don’t want new weapon? And after that there is a lot of people who works for this programs, you want a lot of thousands of unemployed? What kind of platform can match the new foreign 5th gen fighter f-18 wrong!. Russia have soon t-50, China have soon J-20 and without new programs it will be impossible to match this new platforms stop new bomber or F-35 is a suicide. You want an army like France or Brittain who can’t stop a poor dictator in Libya with a poor army, and after if a day this is Iran or China what you do? China work on new high tech weapon to stop US in western pacific. You want to see China control the world with is Army and economy? Me I don’t want to see that because its very bad for our security. Security of peolpe have no price, and if you just see money money money, the world go straight in a futur war if US don’t have a strong army , navy and air force. If ennemy are not afraid by new tech weapon we go to a world very dangerous for all , I prefere US first than China.…

We have heard what Puken Dog is opposed to, so I am curious…if Puken Dog were SecDef, how would he defend the US vital national interests? What weapons would he chose and what military investments would he make?

I can only full approve what you said. The tragedy is this will be now the future after the 1000 Billion Obama /gang of Six/Barney Frank/Ron Paul will be approved to get a nice look 3 T to 4T Deficit Plan. Red China and other enemy’s and US hater will rule and form the World and all this why progressives and communists has seek a bit more money for their inflated welfare system and there also inflated government.

A good video from 2008 over Mr. Obamas priorities with the right response to them from the possible last great leader of the United States.
http://​www​.youtube​.com/​w​a​t​c​h​?​v​=​m​g​T​g​e​n​w​l​2aA

I think he will simple surrender and make the USA a occupied province of Red China or he will joint to the radical Islam them the next 9.11 is coming. The most western communist/progressives really believe in such “strategies”.

We did that. This is why 50% of the new systems sent to the field in SWAC was deemed unsuitable. In other words we paid for gold but we got crap.
What we need is a smart DoD workforce that can write requirements and provide technical oversight on a product development. When the buyer is dumb the systems developers will bring in junior engineers and stamp expert on their forehead, charge a bundle to the taxpayer and in the end the system is crap.

The defense costs are to high, because the war has lasted much longer than estimated. Put an end to this war, save billions.

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