U.S. must stick it out with Pakistan, leaders say

U.S. must stick it out with Pakistan, leaders say

Even after reports that Pakistani intelligence officials allegedly let Chinese engineers examine the wreckage of the Night Stalkers’ famous low-observable Black Hawk, Defense Secretary Panetta and Secretary of State Clinton said Tuesday the U.S. and Pakistan both have an interest in keeping up a close diplomatic and military relationship. Panetta and Clinton appeared onstage together in an unusual session before an audience at National Defense University, and moderator Frank Sesno asked them directly what kind of “ally” would do such a thing.

“I’m not going to comment on classified matters,” Panetta said, but he and Clinton fell back on familiar points about the “complicated” ties between between the U.S. and Pakisan and and the checkered history between the two countries. America withdrew from Pakistan after helping support the Afghan insurgents against the Soviets, Clinton said, so Pakistani leaders are leery about whether the U.S. will continue to work with them as American troops begin coming home from Afghanistan.

She didn’t say whether she believes that wariness about American reliability is what has enticed Pakistan toward a closer relationship with China, or whether Pakistan’s military and intelligence leaders feel so insulted by the United States that their overtures toward China are payback. According to this week’s reports, American officials specially asked Pakistani officials not to let outsiders see the crashed helicopter wreckage, but they did anyway — an unsubtle message if there ever was one.


Sure, it’s tough, but the Pakistanis have reasons to keep working with America as much for their own sake as any other reason, Panetta argued. The insurgent networks inside Pakistan, including the Haqqani network, the Taliban and Lashkar e Taiba, someday will be a threat to the Pakistani government, Panetta said, despite their semi-official relationships with it in the past. Incoming CIA Director David Petraeus, when he was running the show in Afghanistan, used to compare these groups to a snake in your neighbor’s backyard — just because it isn’t bothering you now doesn’t mean it can’t slither over and bite you later.

Besides, the U.S. has no good options: The top al Qaeda leaders the U.S. needs to kill or capture are hiding out in Pakistan’s ungoverned tribal territories, and it has only been with Pakistani cooperation that American drones have been able to find them and eliminate them. But the same weapon that helps the American effort also hurts its case locally, when drone strikes kill innocent civilians and fuel populist outrage across Pakistan.

So Panetta and Clinton are in a bind: They can’t talk about the classified aspects of the U.S. relationship with Pakistan, but they’re buffeted by the aftermath of leaks like the one about the Black Hawk wreckage, or ones in the on-again, off-again feuds between the Inter-Services Intelligence agency and the CIA. There could be a more compelling case for why the U.S. should continue to work with Pakistan besides ‘we have no choice,’ but that’s the only one we may be allowed to hear.

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Someone in Washington always has a good reason for giving away borrowed money to other countries.

Yes, despite all the evidence of the ISI (pakistani intel agency) hiding the leadership of AQ while giving intel on where low level grunts camp out for a predator strike as their contribution. So much for kumbaya nation building and disaster relief efforts.

Forget that. We need to act more like Switzerland and just let other countries deal with their own messes. Pakistan can go get itself nuked on its own; no reason for us to waste anymore blood and treasure on them.

Well, I agree I hate the US being involved, but if there’s a nuclear exchange, radiation will move downwind towards our allies and possibly areas were our trips are stationed. Global economy would be impacted, hurting our already fragile economy. But worse, if these terrorists somehow get a hold of a nuclear device, who knows where they would blow it up. I HATE this situation, but we really have no choice but to be involved with Pakistan, even more than Iraq or Afghanistan…at least involved in some form or fashion.

Yet I will say there will always be none.

It’s not the “what” but the “how” that concerns me.

Pakistan, we have been supporting their economy since the early 1950 long before this carp was going on. We had U-2 bases in Pakistan for many, many years to help spy on the Russians. Bases in Pakisan, hell, yes, as a young airman, I worked in Pakistan for 3 years an U-2. Then one day we up and loaded all our equipment and left, simply there today gone tomorrow. How ever, if you ever had a GSA contract, you would know that even in the 1970s that in certain items that were made we would have to use inferior products in our manufactoring process that came from Pakistan. Whe an exception was filed for with GSA, we were told no, that the Pakistan product useage was a requirement and must be met. Reason being, failure to use such garbage was ingerious to the Pakistan economy. We’ve worried about all the other countires economies in the world, how about our government worring out our economy for a change

Pakistan is a bad relationship and cannot be trusted. They need behavior modification…not US dollars.

Counter terror mission. Its been 10 yrs, P-stan can’t be trusted, they are the enemy. Milking us for $$$. We cannot police the globe.

Do you mean how Pakistan gave a handslap to their nuclear scientist and Iran,n. Korea proliferator AQ Khan? Not even under house arrest. It is in Pakistan’s interest to cause instability in the region so we cannot get close to our only true ally in the region India.

I just don’t get how our country wants to cut costs and reduce our debt, yet give away money to these so called “Allies”. I don’t see giving away any money and buying friends so they don’t attack us — is that the only way the US has friends is to buy their friendship. We have true allies with money: Japan, S Korea, Australia, etc — not these terrorist countries — our true Ally friends can just buy their weapons from us without us handing out money, and we can use the money we would have given away on good programs like the F-22 and continue our dominance. I also don’t see how difficult it is to sever ties with Pakistan — just cut them off and let India fight with them. They will eventually crawl back to us giving us money to help them and we can sell them old weapons at a high cost — solves alot of problems.

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