Services promise to add Army to “Air-Sea Battle”

Services promise to add Army to “Air-Sea Battle”

Defense officials said Wednesday that they’ve invited the Army to join what had previously been an exclusive club for naval and air power as DoD stands up a new office dedicated to its elusive “Air-Sea Battle” concept.

The officials, who briefed reporters at the Pentagon under ground rules they not be named, said former Secretary Gates’ original mandate for “Air-Sea Battle” only went to the Secretaries of the Navy and Air Force. But now “We are actively seeking to pull the Army onboard so we can be a four-service office,” one official said.

As a quick update for your PowerPoint org chart, the defense officials said the Air-Sea Battle Office would comprise about 15 total people reassigned from the services. A separate Pentagon announcement said it would include  “a minimum of two field grade officers or civil-service grade equivalents” from the Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps — but the written announcement did not mention the Army.


At any rate, Wednesday’s defense officials said they wanted their office to become “a focusing lens” to help the services deal with tomorrow’s problems of anti-access and area denial — wherever they occur. The three officials did rhetorical backflips to avoid saying the word “China,” insisting they wanted their work to be applicable in any operational theatre.

Their profusion of buzzwords and jargon; their reluctance to define exactly what “Air-Sea Battle” is; and their refusal to talk in concrete terms left several reporters scratching their heads as to what exactly the briefers were talking about.

“Air-Sea Battle is not a war plan, not a [conops] plan, not an operational plan, it’s a framework of design which articulates and describes what the problem is,” one official said.

To that end, the new office will “Facilitate inter-service and inter-agency coordination during the development of the concept, supervise the implementation of ASB-related training, manning and equipping; and manage the executing the ASB concept,” the official said.

In other words: Air-Sea Battle is Air-Sea Battle, and the Air-Sea Battle Office will be charged with promulgating Air-Sea Battle. Simple, see?

The existence of a permanent new joint office, planned as a kind of running dormitory bull-session for the services, represents a shift in the bureaucratic trajectory for “Air-Sea Battle.” At first, it was apparently planned as a discrete document, a paper report that would define the Navy and Air Force’s strategies for dealing with China’s advanced new weapons in the Western Pacific. The unspoken subtext was that it would justify pricey Air Force and Navy programs, as the services ostensibly drew closer and even exchanged traditional missions.

One defense official said Wednesday that there may or may not be a document like this at some point, but there is no schedule for when anything might appear inside the Pentagon or be sent to Congress. Standing up an office may have been an internal compromise to delay or kill the appearance of a report, while still making permanent the inter-service analysis that Gates and now Secretary Panetta evidently want.

Service officials have told Congress before that “Air-Sea Battle,” the strategy, was finished and awaiting Panetta’s signature or endorsement, but Wednesday’s briefers were very vague on that point. Panetta “has acknowledged the work as credible work and has given us the green light to move forward with implementation of Air-Sea Battle,” one defense official said. It was not clear whether the existence of the office meant Panetta had rejected an existing report or strategy, or been so pleased with it he directed its authors to go to work permanently.

As the briefers described it, the people in the Air-Sea Battle Office are effectively emissaries from their own services’ strategy hubs — the Marines will be ambassadors from Quantico, the airmen from Dayton and the sailors from Norfolk. (Just where the pending Army officers should come from could become a new parlor game — or fistfight — on the green side. Then again, this is already so arcane the Army may not care.)

Wednesday’s briefers said one goal is for the ambassadors to return to their respective stovepipes Cylinders of Excellence and spread what they’ve learned about the other services. In one of very few concrete examples, a defense official cited the danger that small swarming boat attacks pose to Navy warships. Air Force planners don’t necessarily know about that, but the joint office could help them understand it.

A questioner asked whether the office would consider ideas such as a Naval War College concept in which Air Force A-10 Warthog tank-killers helped with that Navy swarm threat. Air Force and Navy commanders traditionally might not have thought to use the aircraft this way, but the A-10s’ pulverizing main guns could shred attackers while they were safely away from friendly ships.

“Yes,” said one of the defense officials. But the officials would not go into detail or volunteer any of their own examples about how the services could work together in a future conflict.

“There’s a large portfolio  of U.S. capabilities. There are many combinations,” the official said.

A study last year by the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments included a few recommendations that, at the time, were said to be close to DoD’s actual considerations, but were never officially confirmed. One suggestion of the CSBA report was that Navy Aegis warships could protect U.S. air bases in the Pacific from Chinese missile attacks — for instance, a cruiser might lay off Okinawa, from which it could quickly re-arm, and defend the Marine base there with radars and missiles not originally intended for such a task.

Another suggestion was that Air Force bombers could lay offensive sea mines, taking a traditional Navy role to free up attack and guided-missile submarines in a conflict in the South China Sea.

Which brings us to the new inflection point for “Air-Sea Battle:” When Pentagon officials first began talking about it, the plan was seen as a way to justify starting or prolonging weapons programs in order to solve anti-access and area-denial problems. The Air Force needed a stealthy new bomber to drop those mines — and it needed the mines  – just as the Navy needed stealthy new long-range unmanned strike aircraft to fly off its carriers.

With an Air-Sea Battle Office, as opposed to an Air-Sea Battle Report, DoD seems to have backed off that strategy, or elected to pursue it by a more circuitous route. The defense officials Wednesday said their work will trickle out across the Corporation, including to program offices, so it still could influence the Air Force’s bid to get a bomber, or the Marines’ new amphibious vehicle, only less directly.

“Those discussions are happening,” one official said. “We don’t have direct control of resources, or direct authority – we help facilitate those things, we help put the spotlight on certain issues … we will help ensure those conversations happen.”

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Great just what we needed, more high promising revolutionary doctrine and redundant layers of bureaucracy (there already is a DoD Architectural Framework) as opposed to being responsive to joint war fighter needs, and organizing, training, and equpping so our units actually merit their readiness ratings. More staff assignments for future general officers???

This is just mind boggling. Air-Sea battle at least made sense from the western pacific “framework of design which articulates and describes what the problem is”. Making the Air-Sea battle an Air-Sea-Land battle dilutes any purpose that it once had and turns it into yet another powerpoint factory.

Air-Sea command will be worth it’s weight in gold just for the comedy alone.

Hilarious stuff — defending land bases with ships ! About as dumb as you can get.
Actually it beats me why we have a navy at all when the navy is constantly saying that a few swarming zodiacs are far superior.

Enjoy it while it lasts, this has CUT ME written all over it.

Nice of them to include the army in the Air-Sea Command cocktail parties though — makes them a fully fledged member.

RAND Corp just completed one study saying that war with China is unlikely, due to both MAD and MAED-mutually assured economic destruction. In contrast, another RAND study is exploring the battle of Wanat, to identify fixes that could help land combatants survive battles actually likely to occur.

Excessive money spent on air and seapower through orchestrated panics of “anti-access/area denial,” are monies not available to save lives of Soldiers/Marines who actually die in actual conflicts instead of wargames, and can survive long range TBM attacks. Forward deployed ground forces have access and are denied no area. Air and seapower could learn lessons from the way landpower disperses to withstand artillery. Such dispersal is why the F-35 in all its variants is crucial, as are the LCS and high speed vessel.

North Korea and other rogue states, Islamic extremist non-state terror, uncertainty surrounding the Arab Spring, Israel’s window of opportunity to attack Iran by the shortest route, and other real world issues involving Russian resurgence/expansion are the more realistic issues. Landpower could be involved in all of them. Landpower does not need air and seapower to survive on land because frankly, potential real-world foes have little air and sea capability. They have ample land capability able to hide from airpower.

Unless the land component is integrated into war concepts and plans to drive targets out into the open, long-range airpower simply risks nuclear escalation by flying stealthy nuclear-capable aircraft over nuclear near-peers. Kind of dumb. Attack the aggression…don’t create perceptions you are attacking big picture targets held dear to the near-peer.

And a counterpoint.… . .The RAND folk are very intelligent, but.… for the most part, they need their paychecks just as much as the rest of us. The potential for war with China is a very politically volitile subject and it does not surprise me that the conclusion is that its “unlikely”. War is generally “unlikely” until its thrust upon us.

China, today, is perhaps the most dynamic, expansive nation (economically, and politically, AND militarily) in the world. Right now, we are, at least debatably, on the top of the pile, king of the hill. China wants its “rightful” place at the top of the hill. Be it outright armed conflict, war by proxie (Cold War style) or just a steely-cold stare from an increasingly powerful and “constrained” Peking, competition will continue and competition between nations has a habit and long history of turning ugly.

AND you can’t run around swatting at mosquitos with sledge hammers. Long range air power is a very potent force, but as we have recently re-discovered for the umpteenth time, the most awsome airpower in the world, the most sophsiticated ISR imaginable, and a nuclear deterrent can not kick in doors and root out the bomb makers… Airplanes have been around for a bit over 100 years and military airpower for about 80; infantrymen have been doing their thing for the last 10,000 years or so and their undeniable, but often maligned, often “studied away” utility has survived more than a few technical revolutions.

BINGO!

The Navy budget calls for spending $20 billion a year on aircraft procurement and $14 billion a year on ship procurement. The AIr Force plans to spend $14 billion for Aircraft (including unmanned) for FY2012. Will the New Command sit down with the Budget guys and go over the Comptrollers documents and see what redundancies can be easily identified? We out here can. Maybe we need to Rename the Navy and call it the The Floating AIr Force Armanda.

F-35 lacks the range and firepower (internal weapons carriage) needed for this mission. It also lacks the speed, maneuverability, and survivability if we are really going to have to take this on, gain air dominance, and have acceptable losses. In short it will end up flying much like a “Gen4” aircraft due to it’s inherent limitations.

If we are at all serious about being able to project power as required in this situation we need more F-22s or what ever will replace it (and that is not the F-35). We will also need better than AMRAAM and more long range cruise missiles. And we will especially need a new bomber (hell we need it now not in 15 years!).

As I see it, F-35 is sucking up all the resources needed to address these capability challenges and it will do little to really change the battle. Resources need to be re-allocated.

We need another office to help the USAF understand the swarming boat threat to the USN? Really? Another office to help one service understand the threats to another one? There are clearly too many cooks spoiling the soup in the Pentagon. Unless of course looking like we are a bunch of mental dullards and publicly displaying a bureaucracy that is engaging in self serving administrative goobldeygook is part of a clever plan to get potential adversaries to underestimate us.….. somehow I doubt it.

I think DoD creates whole doctrinal structures to justify specific technologically risky weapon systems to create too big to fail situations. It increases the programs chances of survival as their failures are exposed through the development process. It’d be nice if DoD would just acquire technologically realistic systems IAW federal law & regulations.

ROTFLMAO! I resemble that remark, SIR! :-)

Fortunately, or unfortunately perhaps, analysts and engineers in the defense industry sometimes get experience well beyond their most specific expertise. I was worrying with the challenges of shooting up swarms of small boats and Boghammers back in the early, pre-proposal days of the DD-21 program, and officially getting paid to do it no less! :-) Will you please make sure to add some ground pepper and a touch of salt to that gobble-de-gook before serving up my bowl! :-)

No hotsauce on that lunch burrito for you, Mr Templar!

I’m just guessing here, but it does seem to me that land-based air defense fits well with the Air-Sea Battle concept, so there is clearly an Army role sitting there. So there.

I’m curious, are 8 F-16E Desert Falcons fully loaded able to do more than 8 F-35As fully loaded for a ground attack mission? Same question for an Air to Air intercept mission say with 8 Su-35MK1s.

Correction, make the advasery planes the Su-35S. From Wikipedia:

The Su-35 was further developed into the Su-37, which has thrust-vectoring capabilities, and the Su-35BM, classed as 4++ generation fighter by its manufacturer. The new model entered into serial production as the Su-35S for the Russian Air Force in 2010.

In response to the excerpts, “…a defense official cited the danger that small swarming boat attacks pose to Navy warships. …consider ideas such as a Naval War College concept in which Air Force A-10 Warthog tank-killers helped with that Navy swarm threat. …the A-10s’ pulverizing main guns could shred attackers while they were safely away from friendly ships.”

The Marines should have a navalized CATOBAR A-10(x), with STOL optimized folding wings, and bigger engines to enhance the STOL capability, primarily for CAS and ground attack. But the Marines are not getting those. And they would need a big deck to fly from.

The AirForce A-10 would work well, but its not likely going to be there when a swarm attack happens. The Air Force is not likely going to provide A-10s to fly above US Navy war ships every time they navigate the Strait of Hormuz or elsewhere in the Persian Gulf near Iran’s coastline, and Iran is not likely going to provide much advanced warning if they launch a swarm of armed small boats against US Navy ships there.

The defense against surprise attack should be organic.

The Marines are procuring AH-1Z Viper (Zulu Cobra) attack helicopters ($31 million each, for new builds). More could be acquired and deployed more widely on US Navy ships operating where there is significant threat of small boat attacks from large squadrons or swarms, and those could provide a rapid effective response. And its not much of a stretch in new developments and procurements.

The Marines are procuring new AH-Z Viper attack helicopters for $31 million each, a bargain for its capable of doing.

F-35s with aerial refueling have ample range to reach coasts and a few hundred miles into the interior of any state. Agree about the better AMRAAM, cruise missiles, and anti-radiation missiles. Attack the invader not the targets that could lead to nuclear escalation. If the enemy knows our F-35s have a certain range and are not armed with B-53 bombs, there is less risk of nuclear war.

We have too many carriers and nuclear weapons. The carriers require surface escorts and air wings that further increase costs. That is the logical first place for cuts along with long range stealth bombers. Can someone explain how long-range bombers and stealth UAS survive deep over near-peer territory without fighter escorts? In contrast, standoff bombers can fire JASSM-ER and other weapons without requiring stealth. We still have 20 B-2s which is more than sufficient given other nuclear and conventional capabilities..

I was thinking Block III Longbow Apache, operating from ships, barges, or from a close-by austere environment. But I do agree that an attack helicopter force, providing security for the fleet while its close in, is a more reliable answer than an unassured TACAIR CAP.

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